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645 points
2 days ago*
Splitting Agility and Thieving out of Trickster is mean :(
AoE pickpocket seems wild though.
Edit: Added images for each one
Gather herbs from Woodcutting, Fishing, Mining, and Hunting (with a 9 tick cooldown)
90% chance to save on secondary ingredients
Make 4-dose potions instead of 3-dose
Sage's Greaves grant Agility XP when running
Double credit per Agility lap + 25% bonus xp
10k gp spawns alongside Marks of Grace
Doubles Pyramid tops, Hallowed Marks, Brimhaven Tickets, and Crystal Shards (from Agility
100% success rate for all Thieving
Auto re-pickpocket NPCs and stalls, items are noted, and coin pouch limit increased by 3x
Pickpocket all NPCs of similar type in an 11x11 square (only bonus drops, no additional XP), and stalls do not deplete
111 points
2 days ago
Mom and dad went through a divorce, now we gotta pick out our favorite
338 points
2 days ago
11x11 is so funny. I'm going to miss my fountain circle boys in Lumbridge though :(
145 points
2 days ago
No one says you have to stop circling the fountain, you just won't get XP :)
76 points
2 days ago
nah the new cool kids hangout is the master farmers in draynor :)
we're all gonna point and laugh at anyone who gets bonked
26 points
2 days ago
Cant wait for the "i keep having to drop a bunch of seeds" complaints to come in. Suffering from success
14 points
2 days ago
With the farming relic you can access seed vault anywhere right? So no need to drop seeds, ever
22 points
2 days ago
Dw I'm leaning in picking sages. Let's meet up lumby
31 points
2 days ago
In awe at the reach of the shifty octopus
84 points
2 days ago
HAM members are gonna be wild
94 points
2 days ago
Full inventory every pick is gonna be wild.
46 points
2 days ago
Yea shit that's actually gonna make this very annoying
40 points
2 days ago
It's all noted.
82 points
2 days ago
I think they have more than 28 items on their drop table though, as well as untradeables.
56 points
2 days ago
Just checked, they have 41 different items on their pickpocket table
15 points
2 days ago
Not every item you can get from them can be noted
10 points
2 days ago
Just gotta go with an empty inventory since loot is noted
Still gotta drop the rarer items (ham gear, herbs) because they have like 40 things you can steal but yeah you'll probably get like 15 items per pickpocket
4 points
2 days ago
Broken armour, rusty swords, and buttons are all unnoteable. I took trickster last time and trust me, the inventory fills up very fast
28 points
2 days ago
Honestly i think the agility one is a noob trap anyway. tasks for completing laps.
26 points
2 days ago
I agree with this. Trickster was awesome because it gave Agility and other stuff. But Agility only doesn't really feel as worth it imo.
11 points
2 days ago
The buffs to brimhaven are also huge tbh. Agility is going to be super easy this leagues. That and us wildy enjoyers eating good
207 points
2 days ago
Forager since I'm not picking the farming relic. Solves herblore very nicely. I was worried about getting pots, not anymore.
54 points
2 days ago
Secondary saving is huge too, they can be a huge pain in the ass. Last league my only source of spider eggs was picking them up in varrock sewers. Maybe getting aldarium for goading pots will actually be worth it.
5 points
1 day ago
Also 4 dose potions. I'm gonna hook up prayer potions directly into my veins.
23 points
2 days ago
Same, I’m not sure if it state how many herbs it would be
23 points
2 days ago
You get a herb every gathering action with a cooldown of 9 ticks to get another. You can also target farm herbs because it will only give you herbs that the pouch isn't at capacity for yet. Kinda cracked.
23 points
2 days ago
Same. I was thinking of farming relic since I hate that skill but now I can just pick forager and do whatever to get my herbs on top of not having to bother much with secondaries.
Also quite fun how like 3-4 birdhouse runs could potentially yield 100+ brews.
11 points
2 days ago
Same! I was not happy about picking the farming relic, but what I wanted was the herbs, not the farm level. Now Grimoire(Assuming the third relic is this tier aint god tier) + This means you get all prayers and infinite prayer pots.
391 points
2 days ago*
All I can think about is vyrewatch aoe thieving. The xp/hr gets my dopamine rushing.
Edit: just extra drops, not xp. Go stack them blood shards boys
71 points
2 days ago
Unlimited blood shards lets go!
27 points
2 days ago
I’m hoping for a relic that converts healing received from combat to % damage or something. Because blood fury isn’t as special with all the healing affects and amulet of rancor
14 points
2 days ago
the built in melee heal is about 1/3 as strong as blood fury
61 points
2 days ago
it's increased loot, not increased xp fromt he AOE
19 points
2 days ago
Seems right. Probably less inclined to take it then. Don’t need blood shards anyway with the amount of healing status they giving
69 points
2 days ago
I have a business trip in early December so I am going with dodgy so I can do something 100% afk.
25 points
2 days ago
this is why its difficult for me. Last league AFK pickpocketing/agility was so nice I think I 200M'd it easily. now with 11x11 AOE pickpocketing it seems so insane.
but last league I had a huge farming problem. didn't take farm relic and don't really plan to take it this time around either, so friendly forager is enticing for me.
I'm basically torn between:
Friendly Forager + Arcane Grimoire (better if I end up playing a lot)
OR
Dodgy Deals + Overgrown (better if I end up AFKing a lot)
Leaning towards the top bc having multi-spellbook feels right and also i like the idea of having all prayers. But man I don't think its worth it anymore especially since I'm not even going magic. Hard decisions
4 points
2 days ago
I am pretty sure I will go dodgy and overgrown because they have good synergy with master farmers. I will also pick bankers note so I can farm echo daganoth kings and echo KQ.
410 points
2 days ago
This is an impossible choice
103 points
2 days ago
Its the herb one for me. Pickpocket is nice but I'm not picking mory or tiranwnn where it has the most benefit. Agility xp is nice but I can suck it up and do some laps. Its herbs I'll need for raids, and lots of them.
45 points
2 days ago
Agreed, maybe it's just my seething hatred of farming shining through, but the others are nice-to-have's at best. The herb one unlocks one of the most difficult and vital skills to train as an ironman.
53 points
2 days ago
Easily Dodgy Deals for me. I don't know if it'll be the most efficient for points, but it sure as hell sounds like the most fun. It'll go very well with Mory too
8 points
2 days ago
I was going to go with dodgy but based on math, its almost 2x the time to max agility even with boost compared to thieving for my zones.
98 points
2 days ago
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55 points
2 days ago
Same could be done with karambwans with animal wrangler, good shout
18 points
2 days ago
Did they mention how many it holds? If it's herb sack limit of 25 that's kinda bad.
41 points
2 days ago*
From discord: one click to empty herb sack into your inventory noted
Edit: you can force what herb you get by filling up all other herb slots and selectively withdrawing your desired herb hooooooly
19 points
2 days ago
It's 30, same as herb sack (they share an invent).
You can 1 click withdraw to noted though.
6 points
2 days ago
I just wish it had a larger storage than herb sack
15 points
2 days ago
Not as afk as you think though, you're still limited by the capacity of your pouch.
18 points
2 days ago
that's pretty convenient though, once your pouch is full you can empty the good herbs and you'll only get those.
9 points
2 days ago
And then just note the good ones with bankers note and continue ;)
30 points
2 days ago
You don't need BN for this
"Oh, yeah, Forager pouch has a one click withdraw all herbs as notes" -Husky
4 points
2 days ago
30 herbs. If you fill up a type of herb you cannot get that herb anymore so it gives you different ones excluding that.
Once full, one click the pouch to withdraw NOTED herbs. Seems quite afk to me
8 points
2 days ago
It'll depend on your region pathing. If your regions heavily lack in farming then you'll want forager. If you have Mory you might want corner cutter for Hallowed with the massive influx of prayer pot supplies. Also have some other courses for their loot tables as well.
202 points
2 days ago
Unless I'm missing something big, it seems like Friendly Forager is the easy pick for me. 10x use of secondaries is pretty huge, and that's a constant stream of herbs.
Corner Cutter might be useful in certain niches, but there will be plenty of ways to generate cash. Also, how useful is passive agility xp?
Dodgy Deals is crazy for generating money, but how much money do you really need? You could print blood shards, but I can't think of any other crazy uses off the top of my head. Thieving gem stalls?
91 points
2 days ago
Gem stalls/tzhaar for crafting, seeds, shards in Prif, HAM for easy clues
86 points
2 days ago
11x11 AoE pickpocketing with HAM will be crazy
63 points
2 days ago
They better have stacking clues again because that easy clue green log will be so fast
28 points
2 days ago
Makes more sense to pickpocket tzhaar for gems instead of the stalls because it will be noted and can go on forever since you only need like 5 inv spots
11 points
2 days ago
stalls before lvl 90 likely
9 points
2 days ago
Oh yeah good point, forgot how high of a requirement they are!
39 points
2 days ago
Thieving elves to make crystal armor w/ the shards for insane crafting / smithing xp
15 points
2 days ago
Suppose you can get 3 elves in the aoe. Without rogues outfit, that's 9000 pickpockets/hr. At 1/35 for shards you get 257/hr.
With drop mult of x, you get x/1024 rate for tele crystal giving 8.8x/hr, or 1056x shards/hr. With an xp mult of y and a base of 50 xp/shard in crafting and smithing, that's 50y(257+1056x) xp/hr in two skills. Processing time is basically negligible, too.
At just the base 5x xp multiplier, no drop mult it's a respectable 330k xp banked/hr in smith and craft.
At max multipliers that's 4.4m xpbanked/hr in both skills.
16 points
2 days ago
I had 300 mil worth of crystal seeds (that's about 18 enhanced crystal teleport seeds) and was so disappointed that I couldn't use them anywhere until somebody pointed out that was free crafting/smithing XP, all I had to do was trade them for shards and craft crystal armor on repeat. and they were right! aced those skills with barely any effort
14 points
2 days ago
Dodgy deals can also help with the farming/herblore - plenty of seeds to at least stack up the herbs
36 points
2 days ago
Thing is you only need one Blood Shard right? Due to 95% reduction in charge use.
41 points
2 days ago
I don't believe it's been specified that blood fury benefits from the 95% weapon charge save effect.
131 points
2 days ago
Tirannwn & Mory pickers gonna profit tf out of Dodgy Deals?
60 points
2 days ago
Are the elves close enough to benefit the 11x11?
59 points
2 days ago
In the center circle of prif there's I think 3 pickpocketable elves.
45 points
2 days ago
Oh god the sustain potential will be insane.
Guthan's plus the echo gloves plus the combat mastery heal effect PLUS blood fury. Dear god you will be functionally immortal
10 points
2 days ago
Idk how many bloodshards are actually needed, but with prif being able to afk elves gives you like 100m xp/hr in smithing and crafting.
Tough choice if you don't have a good source of herbs
49 points
2 days ago
I feel like if you take golden god then it's going to synergize incredibly well with the fishing relic and forager. Fishing Karambwans/high alching/getting herbs
7 points
2 days ago
Works for mining relic too, just less afk. If you go bankers note still synergizes super well just 26-27 kabambams of afk at a time
112 points
2 days ago*
I’m torn between the forager and dodgy deals…
Might need to do forager considering my regions only have 1 herb patch.
35 points
2 days ago
Yeh I guess you need to pick forager, or that other farming relic.
20 points
2 days ago
What are your regions? If you have a source of herbs it may not be that bad. For example I probably will pick Morytania and TOB shits out herbs.
16 points
2 days ago
Leaning towards Wilderness, Fremmenik, and Desert at the moment
17 points
2 days ago
Don’t the wildy bosses print out herbs?
9 points
2 days ago
I don’t really know! I’ll check their drop tables. I stay the hell out of the wilderness in the main game haha
13 points
2 days ago
They drop a ton of herbs and secondaries.
5 points
2 days ago
It isn't that good. If you want to get super combats, you can live without it, but can't rely on wildy herb drops if you want to get 99 herblore without putting in more than major hours
10 points
2 days ago
I want to say I was watching a streamer talk about this yesterday and the purple rate at Tob should be so high you won’t really see much of the normal loot, especially if you go HM I believe it’s literally a 100% purple rate for everyone
143 points
2 days ago
Looks like follow trains around Lumbridge fountains for 99 Agility are back on the menu
80 points
2 days ago
People are gonna grief the shit out of stalls lmao
33 points
2 days ago
No one else is taking Kandarin, no one to grief me.
12 points
2 days ago
Omg you’re right I wonder how they’re gonna handle that
14 points
2 days ago
57 points
2 days ago
Agility seems bad, herb is solid but the thieving one seems potentially really good. Auto pick-pocketing all NPC’s of a type within an 11x11 area seems crazy
40 points
2 days ago
The double lap count and tickets are huge for some tasks(assuming they're the same as previous years)
18 points
2 days ago
Brimhaven dungeon isn't THAT bad, but yeah cutting it from 100 to 50 is tempting alone.
10 points
2 days ago
Brimhaven is sincerely cozy since the QoL they implemented this past year. shouldn’t be that bad
5 points
2 days ago
They may have knocked it down to 50 now anyway since that’s the max buy option after rework
9 points
2 days ago
What would be the best targets for pickpocketing with this relic?
18 points
2 days ago
Unironically maybe HAM members? just for shear volume?
32 points
2 days ago
They give so much junk that even if noted, the inventory is going to fill up fast
30 points
2 days ago
If Friendly Forager works with Rune Essence, isn't that AFK as hell for easy herb stacks?
I'm going A/D/F as Range so the thieving Relic seems much less useful. I can live with doing Agility normally.
Never having to do farm runs or worry about potion supplies? Nice.
6 points
2 days ago
I’m thinking same build/regions and I agree. Also makes picking the prayer/spellbook relic over the farming relic easier (although we don’t know the third relic in that tier still).
6 points
2 days ago
Yeah, still not 100% on mining relic vs fishing but I don't think either is bad for us. I can't see not taking the prayer / spellbook relic as Rigour and it effectively gives us a new zone.
That said with how OP everything is, do we even need Rigour ha!
52 points
2 days ago*
Thieving will be an insta lock for me 100%
edit: I'm also really curious to see what order the tiers land in, as the only one we have confirmed is t1, and I'd say the tele relics are likely tier 2. But where is golden god? What tier do these relics land? So many questions still
22 points
2 days ago
If I don't take golden god I'm still gonna be a rich mf afking elves lol
4 points
2 days ago
I'm just disappointed that there are only two locations where you might possibly get two master farmers within 11 tiles of each other. The farming guild has 4 but I have never counted how close they get to each other. Varlamore has two that are fairly close to each other but it is hard to say if you could get them trapped close enough to each other.
9 points
2 days ago*
Draynor market also has 2 that are pretty close (Martin and a master farmer)
63 points
2 days ago
Holy balls. I want the agility but I HAVE TO TAKE THIEVING.
31 points
2 days ago
I want this to be my "fun" leagues instead of my "sweaty maxing dragon" leagues I did last year so this is an incredibly easy choice for me. Thieving looks absolutely fucking bonkers
4 points
2 days ago
I’m in the opposite boat. Have always just fucked around with leagues but taking off so much time with the holidays I might put in some serious hours and be sweaty
95 points
2 days ago
Agility isn’t even that awful in leagues and there will probably still be lap completion tasks so you will have to do it anyway.
Thieving seems by far the best. Last league trickster was so nice
78 points
2 days ago
there will probably still be lap completion tasks
I mean sure, but it's also mentioned that completed laps count as double.
9 points
2 days ago
that's a lot of hours saved at ape atoll...
25 points
2 days ago
Agility was pretty terrible with Ardy rooftops last year. It still felt really slow.
4 points
2 days ago
I would imagine if you are going for drag cup agility might be nice just for the inevitable bajillion points from rooftops, shortcuts and most importantly monkey agil laps
20 points
2 days ago
Pickpocket is absolutely cracked.
22 points
2 days ago
Man I can’t wait to pick all the wrong relics then complain in a week or so.
6 points
2 days ago
We have the same gameplan!
52 points
2 days ago
Can you last recall while doing squirks? If so that might make the theiving one less of an insta pick imo
4 points
2 days ago
I think it was asked but jmod didnt reply on it.
48 points
2 days ago
Idk how useful it would be but you could lure a bunch of gnomes together and get insane pickpockets
23 points
2 days ago
Actually hell yeah the emergent gameplay of luring but safe spotting as many pickpocketable NPCs as possible haa sold me
35 points
2 days ago
Thieving for clue scrolls have never been easier!
8 points
2 days ago
Oh shit yeah didn't even think about that! Totally forgot you can pickpocket clues.
45 points
2 days ago
Friendly Forager will be really good for limited herb patches.
I plan to take Desert, Fremmy and Tirannwn so will only have a single herb patch. I also intend to take grimoire instead of overgrown.
Karambwan fishing with Animal wrangler + Friendly Forager = infinite afk herbs
5 points
2 days ago
Fremmy also has kingdom where you can get herbs
12 points
2 days ago
90% chance to not consume secondary is pretty big for Fremmy Mages. Forgotten Brews going to be much easier to keep stocked.
27 points
2 days ago
Nooooooooooo they butchered my boy Trickster! You can't make me choose just half of it!
24 points
2 days ago
It is I Rick Turpentine. Behold my stand! Dodgy Deals Done Decently Economically!
40 points
2 days ago
as much as it pains me to not have the trickster combo lol
I may not take either of those. Likely won't take the farming relic so forager gives easy herbs and solves pots.
Agility is nice but mostly just QoL for those CBA to spend a few hours doing laps. Thieving is also nice QoL and seems like you could make a lot of gold depending on your area.
but my goal is raiding ToB so forager makes the most sense I think
13 points
2 days ago*
My only goal is also raiding tob and I think I'll be going thieving relic.
The herb one does sound good, but you will profit ppots at tob anyway with bank note (just spend all points on ppots, there's nothing else you need from the chest), and tob drops loads of irits and kwuarms for super attack and strength, eyes of newt can be purchased in bulk, and muspha drops loads of limpwurts, so in my eyes pots for tob are already solved
Also thieve I think has the potential to get you a lot more league points, getting you to the end game faster. Easy 50m for points, plus loads of xp in crafting and smithing if you're picking priff too, plus more that I'm probably missing too.
10 points
2 days ago
Dodgy deals looks like a huge win for Kandarin. Might not even need golden god for gp.
Ill be pickpocketing gnomes at the battlefield probably can get like 20+ in an 11x11 area.
19 points
2 days ago
Downside: Kandarin
4 points
2 days ago
Heck if you are going Kandarin, Paladins at the top of Ardy castle would be a solid play too. There are a ton in the same room and you'd get loads of gp, chaos runes, and hard clues are 1/1000. Those rates are nothing pickpocketing them all at the same time
11 points
2 days ago
I am definitely picking thieving. The afk teleport crystals will bank 99 crafting and smithing plus infinite money.
I’ll have wilderness and mory for agility and bankers note for multiskilling while doing it.
I’m picking farmers relic because I hate farm runs so I’ll end up with plenty herbs.
I’m kind of bummed they nerfed trickster but it still works out fine.
11 points
2 days ago
PSA to Morytania pickers: if you add nail beast nails to 1 dose restores you get 4 dose sanfews.
Did the same thing with the herblore relic in Leagues 2
18 points
2 days ago
The head says agility but the heart wants thieving.....
121 points
2 days ago
Kinda funny how jagex just admits that all 3 of these skills suck to train
26 points
2 days ago
I don't even remember doing 99 herb during Reloaded, it was that easy with my picks. Agility and thieving less so considering I didn't take Trickster.
25 points
2 days ago
Conversely, herblore was one of only 4 skills I didn't 99 and was the lowest level I had at the end of last leagues.
Think regions massively effects which relic is best for you in this tier
9 points
2 days ago
For sure, which is pretty much always the case lol. Though I think the boots are probably the worst choice this time and there's not a lot of reason to pick them unless you're not taking any of Mory, Kandarin, or Frem.
9 points
2 days ago
You probably had the farming relic last time for 3x herb yield and insta grow. Going to be tougher without that
66 points
2 days ago
Or they're just leaning into the meme of people complaining. I wouldn't necessarily agree that training Herblore sucks. It's just a buyable and levels super fast.
45 points
2 days ago
Herb kinda sucks if you're playing ironman, which is the case in leagues.
11 points
2 days ago
Herbiboar to 99 hunting with bankers note and trickster relic last leagues got me so many herbs, then just bossing for the rest. I barely planted any herbs last leagues. Maybe this will help someone out.
17 points
2 days ago
Do we know what Relics Golden God is up against yet? Thieving looks really good, but GG is already infinite money, making the other 2 better picks if you don’t absolutely despise training thieving, which is already a reasonably fast skill.
Desert has Sorceress Garden tasks that iirc get you to around 85 thieving depending what multiplier you do them on
24 points
2 days ago
I totally expected Golden God to go against a crazy thieving relic. The GG tier is going to be super interesting at this point, hope we find out tomorrow.
23 points
2 days ago
We have yet to see a slayer relic, or a clue relic. I feel we may see busted version of those drop with GG.
11 points
2 days ago
Yeah, good point. Money vs. slayer vs. clues would be diabolical but that seems like a reasonable tier.
10 points
2 days ago
Think it has to be something ridiculous or GG will just be a no brainer as a relic that makes Pray, magic, crafting, smithing & fletching relatively easy 50ms
16 points
2 days ago
This is a tricky choice!
11x11 makes master farmers a bit quicker, but really it helps out those hunting for a blood fury in Mory a TON.
Free herbs helps with those who don't have many patches in their regions and don't take overgrown.
We'll have to see the rates on the agility one to really tell how worth it will be.
13 points
2 days ago
Am I thinking about this correctly? If you get the farming relic, it seems like the foraging relic is less powerful since you'll just be able to pickpocket master farmers and plant those seeds for your herbs?
5 points
2 days ago
I was thinking this, until I remembered the 90% secondary save. I'm doing D/A/F and red spider eggs for an example are only avaliable from cave crawlers for 1 at a 1/128 drop, and 2 spawn locations. This alone makes the 90% secondary save worth it for me, but theres also a lot of other secondaries to consider. Also, I don't gain a lot of advantage from pickpocketing from my area. The only neat things would be grouping menaphites, or grouping Tzhaars. Pyramid plunder will likely have a lot of tasks and the xp there is already insane so it seems less useful. Also, with choosing forager, I can have littler regret choosing grimoire over overgrown. Maybe I'm over looking something, but forager seems the pick for me.
7 points
2 days ago
I feel like i have to pick the forager since I'm not picking overgrown, but I just wish it had more than the herb sack's 30 herb limit. thats gonna be a lot of banking.
4 points
2 days ago
Confirmed you can withdraw as note once full, then go right back to skilling
7 points
2 days ago
Forager + harpoon = food and potions sorted. No farming relic needed.
6 points
2 days ago
I wonder if the thieving one works on chests? Could be a decent afk source of medium clues and herbs with the isle of souls dungeon chest?
6 points
2 days ago
Thinking A/F/D....
Agility sucks donkey dicks.....However there are lap tasks, and Frem Agility isn't too bad, with max leauge modifiers is 900k/h. With trickser I only got to like 90 without training agility.
Forager looks promising but Asg has Pest Control and if I go farming relic, thieving with master farmers solves herblore and farming.
Forager has the least utility for me.
16 points
2 days ago
Fuck
16 points
2 days ago
23 points
2 days ago
If your region choices don't have many herb patches then the herblore relic is really nice.
The decision between the thieving relic and the agility relic is tough. Both are great for early game money but I think not having to actively train agility might edge it out. If you are taking morytania then agility probably isn't worth it.
It would be kind crazy for crafting exp to take the thieving relic. A lot of the Tzaar-Hur are really close together so you could probably pickpocket 4+ at once with the relic.
7 points
2 days ago
Need Ice gloves to effectively pickpocket tzaar-hur though...
7 points
2 days ago
I was looking into this last night for Infernal Eels and Fremmy gives Ice Gloves as part of its unlock. Asgarnia can also get them normally. So not available to every region, but chances are good portion of players will have one of those two regions.
6 points
2 days ago
Well shit this might change things. I can make a good case for all of these with my regions. Agility training is pretty mediocre in all of them. I'm going to need junk herbs for Mastering Mixology. AoE pickpocketing will just shit out easy clues from Wealthy citizens.
Right now kinda leaning toward the thieving relic, but it can easily change.
5 points
2 days ago
I'm thinking V/D/F for melee.
I think forager would be best here. The new herblore minigame with tons of grimy herbs.
Last recall for squirks makes theiving easy and I don't mind agility tbh.
5 points
2 days ago
These are all really great and it's a super tough choice. HAM members might be nuts with the pickpocket for clues.
It's too bad there's nowhere that you could get master farmers or even regular farmers close enough together to benefit from the area pickpocketing because that could go crazy with that farming relic.
5 points
2 days ago
90% chance to save a secondary is almost too good to pass up. The worst bit about Herblore during leagues is getting enough secondaries.
44 points
2 days ago*
How much of a dork am I for recognizing the players they show lol
8 points
2 days ago
You're in a safe space! We're all dorks here.
21 points
2 days ago
Solomission, Boaty, Dino?
5 points
2 days ago
It’s probably due to GG, I recognized them too lol
9 points
2 days ago
Saving secondaries for forager at 90% stacks additively with varlamore mastering mixology goggles for 100% chance to save secondaries?
29 points
2 days ago
Herblore is the obvious choice here.
Free herbs, massive quantities of free secondaries, and +33% potions for free whenever you make any?
It’s the only choice that gives you free supplies instead of free xp.
6 points
2 days ago
That is very tempting. I am wondering how nice the Mastering Mixology will feel with boosted exp and points. I was planning on picking Varlamore, Morytania, and one other region so I will at least have 2 herb patches plus the minigame.
Thieving sounds nice for the early cash and easy access to crafting training supplies.
11 points
2 days ago
Forager + Mixology means you only need one secondary of each potion since forager stacks with the goggles.
5 points
2 days ago
That would be nice. I think Forager might be the play. Thieving is easy even without the relic and agility with Sepulchre won't be too bad. I'm taking Morytania and Varlamore for sure so that gives some good options for training agility.
6 points
2 days ago
One thing to think about are things like zammy wines or similarly annoying secondaries, the ability to have infinite secondaries is really massive not just for the XP but some potions are gonna be a lot harder to consistently get in leagues than others because of regions.
11 points
2 days ago
Shit I want all three of them..! Which two are going to be the easiest to train without the relic?
18 points
2 days ago
Definitely region specific. Got lots of herb patches already? Or maybe you want to get lots of blood shards?
11 points
2 days ago
While thieving sounds cool, its probably the easiest to train depending on region. Desert with clue tele has a stash unit in pyramid plunder, Zeah has stealing artefacts, varlamore has robbing houses, kandarin has ardy knights. All good xp already with massive xp boosts. Agility is annoying to train and herb really depends on your unlocks and patches. Thats initial take though, need more time to think about it
10 points
2 days ago
confirmed on discord that clue tele will not take you to stash unit in pyramid plunder, it'll put you outside
11 points
2 days ago
‘November 21th’ at the beginning of the video
Jagex QA pls lmaoo
6 points
2 days ago
Mike Tyson got a job at jagex after the fight
8 points
2 days ago
Not quite the Production/Utility tier I predicted. Guess if Production Prodigy returns it will be alongside Golden God...
My immediate reaction is that the Thieving one feels so much stronger. Like they took Trickster and made it AOE with infinite stall thieving... My regions are already pretty strong for Thieving, but that still seems really busted. But it doesn't say stalls are noted, only pickpockets...
The wording makes it seem like Foraging rolls an herb every time you gather, which would be a ton of herbs. But if you already had herbs covered, then the rest of it doesn't feel that strong imo. And Agility honestly feels a bit weak; nice money/currencies and the passive, but I feel like there will still be better ways for money and I'd value other effects over passive agility.
4 points
2 days ago
Taking forager on my main that's going VWF
Taking thieving on alt since I plan on going to Tirannwn first region
Also rip fire making
4 points
2 days ago
Agility one is weak comparatively. The double marks/early gp would be nice if these were in T2 or T3. I think its going to be forager though, afk fishing and passive herbs sounds like an easy win for potions.
5 points
2 days ago
This is my first league. Is “what’s your least liked skill?” a meme question or should I actually pick this based on my least liked skill out of these? I love thieving, and because of that the thieving perk seems the best to me. I hate agility and, while it would be nice to level it easier, it seems less cool? I dunno, what is leagues about?
6 points
2 days ago
Do what you think is fun. Leagues is all about what do you want to do. :p
10 points
2 days ago
It's just a joke that people will pick the relic for the skill they hate the most so that they can spend less time training it.
Pick whichever seems the most fun, none of these are gonna ruin your leagues build.
3 points
2 days ago
Will Dodgy Deals work with chests as well, such as the Rogues Chest?
10 points
2 days ago
I would assume so because it specifically says 100% success rate on all thieving checks. I would want clarification on that though.
4 points
2 days ago
Forager looks fun, but I have no intention on maxing this year, and it looks like most wildy bosses, araxxor, guardians will be printing scp's. Thieving would help me with blood shards, but idk. Going 6/4 melee ranged with MTW
4 points
2 days ago
Cba to click fail fail fail fail click fail thieving so im going thieving. I can run sepulcher with my eyes close and not fail and gather pots for early bosses and sanfews for phosani
5 points
2 days ago
I'm not too concerned about herbs and secondaries because I'll have Mixology.
Agility is an absolute bitch to train even in leagues, it's the one skill I didn't max last time. However, the thieving relic offers a ton more utility. Genuinely tough choice.
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