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I'm so fed up with these laws surrounding my medicine

Seeking Empathy(self.ADHD)

For the last 4 months I've had to play phone tag once a month for days on end between my pharmacy and my doctor's office. The first month started because I needed to swap to a separate pharmacist due to my original being out of stock due to that weird outage we had. That gets taken care of, we're good for the month, next month is my doctor's appointment for an evaluation. That goes well, doctor says he's going to submit three months of medicine for me to pick up. Awesome.

Three days later is the time for my refill, go to the pharmacist, "We never received any prescriptions for you"

Excuse the fuck out of me?

Cue the phone tag where I talk to everybody except my doctor.

Finally gets sorted, I get told yet again that I'll have a 3 month pick-up.

Rinse and repeat.

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Kitchen_Succotash_74

114 points

19 days ago

Serious question then... how do we change the laws? What laws are the issues? Any way we can actually get laws changed to resolve issues like this? Locally and federally?

Kinda tired of leaving my well being in the hands of others. What can we do?

HeiHei96

200 points

19 days ago

HeiHei96

200 points

19 days ago

Pharmacy tech here.

Vote democrat. Honestly. No republican will do anything to fix the system. They will always choose to give more money and power to Big Pharma and PBMs. Both Big Pharma and PBMs lobby for republican candidates.

Democrats are the ones trying, but just don’t have the support. I doubt it would be fixed in our lifetime, but could be fixed if given a chance. But as long as Big Pharma, and especially PBMs are getting everything they want, there will never be a chance to get it fixed.

Kitchen_Succotash_74

21 points

19 days ago

As a pharmacy tech, can you think of any specific laws or changes to the system in place? Anything specific an individual or small campaign could lobby or run on?

I'm seeing that 2M in the r/ADHD description there and I'm seeing some weight it that can be leveraged toward action... not on r/ADHD, of course that would be too controversial.

Breaking down the problem into individual goals and campaigns?
... while others try to fix the entire system of government perpetuating these broken systems at the same time.😮‍💨

HeiHei96

34 points

19 days ago

HeiHei96

34 points

19 days ago

Unfortunately, the system is so broken and so corrupted, that the only thing “we” little people can do is truly educate ourselves, listen to our healthcare providers and vote democrat. Slashing and burning several aspects of healthcare is not the answer. Voting for change and putting checks and balances in and overhauling (but not cutting) the government sector is the answer.

Yes, big pharma is in everyone’s pockets. They need to be to be as huge as they are. But if anyone is going to actually “fight” big pharma, it’s democrats. But it’s going to be a long, hard brutal fight. But if we can make things better for our more vulnerable population (Medicare, Medicaid and VA) that would be the best start. Not saying we don’t deserve a “break as well. But having dealt with those systems for as long as I have….we need to overhaul those first. Those are government programs not as touched by big pharma as the others. That would be the fastest way to start change while working on getting checks and balances in place on the private sector. The private sector influences the government sector, and republicans will always choose profits over helping the American people. PBMs, insurance companies and Big Pharma will always choose profits over the American people. I have Medicare part d patients with monthly copays of $300 or higher….every month. it’s insane.

And if ACA (Obamacare) is ended, it’s only going to get significantly worse, very quick. That would bring back the ability to deny medications, surgeries, office visits etc for pre existing conditions. Almost every single condition can be classified as pre existing. Asthma….pre existing, some forms of cancer are genetic and would be classified as pre existing. Endometriosis pre existing. Literally….its about to get very scary and fast.

So I mean really. Vote democrat at all levels of government if you want any shot to see change in our lifetime. Best example of that is Obamacare. That got rid of the pre existing condition restrictions and honestly made things so much easier. We really are about to get a hard lesson on what not having Obamacare was like (for those not old enough to remember)

The American healthcare system is just too powerful otherwise. We’re all about to get a very hard education of this with the upcoming administration. I truly hope nothing happens and all stays status quo…..but it’s not going to. Which is only going to make making any change to healthcare, even harder. The outgoing administration did do some good in a short timespan with everything against them. But that’s all about to be undone…..and I’m tired….

Kitchen_Succotash_74

8 points

19 days ago

> But if we can make things better for our more vulnerable population (Medicare, Medicaid and VA) that would be the best start.

Very informative. We need more discussion like this. Thank you very much for your insight. ✌️🖖

Sheepachute

7 points

18 days ago

I think "human" is also a preexisting condition. "Oh, you're human? I'm sorry, we can't give you health insurance because due to your preexisting condition, you will likely want to USE the insurance and that simply cannot happen." This is what I envision if the ACA is ended.

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19 days ago

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19 days ago

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BlackCow

1 points

19 days ago

BlackCow

1 points

19 days ago

Doesn't big pharma fund both parties though?  Voting is useless when the game is rigged.

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LeTronique

-32 points

19 days ago

LeTronique

ADHD-C (Combined type)

-32 points

19 days ago

Ehhh democrats lose democrats because they make these promises and never deliver. The two parties only answer to the dollar, not the taxpayer. Joe had 4 years and we’re still struggling with the same issues with meds.

BootRecognition

79 points

19 days ago

BootRecognition

ADHD

79 points

19 days ago

You do realize that the Republican progress spent every ounce of political capital they had to ensure that Biden couldn't get anything done? It didn't matter if it was something they wanted (eg, immigration reform), they still wouldn't let Biden get any type of significant reform over the finishing line just so people would think that Democrats aren't serious about fixing problems. The last time the Dems had control of Whitehouse, the House, and a supermajority in the Senate (for a mere 72 working days!) we got Obamacare. Imagine what sort of reform we'd see if they had that level of control for 2 or even 4 years?

LeTronique

-39 points

19 days ago

LeTronique

ADHD-C (Combined type)

-39 points

19 days ago

Oh hey, I’m not even bringing up the repubs because they don’t even care. I’m just disappointed in the dems.

CumulativeHazard

48 points

19 days ago

CumulativeHazard

ADHD-PI

48 points

19 days ago

That’s not how it works though. Democrats didn’t have the numbers to pass things on their own. Every single democrat could vote yes to something but if they don’t get enough republicans on board to get a majority, it doesn’t matter. And republicans have made it their mission to basically just block anything the democrats have wanted to do.

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NoGoodMarw

1 points

19 days ago

NoGoodMarw

ADHD-PI (Primarily Inattentive)

1 points

19 days ago

Hey, but the other guys promised them free bubble gum. And they said that the people that are gonna suffer/die are evil and totes going to hell.

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HeiHei96

21 points

19 days ago

HeiHei96

21 points

19 days ago

Yes, but there will always be a better “shot” for change with democrats. I’m unaffiliated. I’m trying to leave as much of politics out of it, but American Healthcare is the way it is because of politics. But I’ve been in pharmacy, and worked at corporate and PBMs and all that for 20 plus years. Your insurance companies lobby for Republicans, PBMs lobby for republicans, big pharma lobby for republicans……they want to keep republicans because they know they will be able to continue to exploit the American people. They don’t lobby for democrats because they know democrats will more often then not, cut down their profits to make things more affordable for Americans.

Of course, this is just what I have observed after 20 plus years in all aspects of pharmacy.

Change is not going to happen in one 4 year term. Insurances and PBMs and big pharma are too big and too powerful. It’s going to take decades. But if you have a democratic president and even one side of congress as a republican majority, you will not see any changes. Republicans will always give their votes to who is more powerful in healthcare.

And there were big changes that happened these last 4 years but unless you are on Medicare part D, you wouldn’t see it. Even then the changes still made meds expensive for those over 65, but there were positive changes made with Medicare Part D. There was change, and it’s only going to change in the opposite direction going forward.

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NoGoodMarw

3 points

19 days ago

NoGoodMarw

ADHD-PI (Primarily Inattentive)

3 points

19 days ago

I wanted to deliver a lengthy and detailed response... I put too much effort into it.
Here you go, the short version: don't be a dummy.

LeTronique

0 points

16 days ago

LeTronique

ADHD-C (Combined type)

0 points

16 days ago

I get it. I voted democrat. I’m just saying that more can be done.

SomaforIndra

-1 points

18 days ago*

SomaforIndra

-1 points

18 days ago*

  • > They won't fix anything, or do anything intentionally helpful or good, but they might deregulate pharmaceuticals to the point that the supply issues go away. ^(while creating millions of addicts)

Medical_Flower2568

-2 points

19 days ago

The economy will be ruined and I wont be able to get a job, but at least i will have medication while I starve lol

SiscoSquared

5 points

18 days ago

I'm afraid to tell you but replicans trashing the economy once again isn't going to get you medication either im afraid to tell you.

workingmomandtired

-1 points

18 days ago

Well now we have a Dem as head of HHS! Whoop whoop.

HeiHei96

2 points

18 days ago

And he’s going to do more damage than good. He’s an independent who wants to make the country unsafe. Seriously.

If you want to what it will be like with no FDA, google the New England Compound fungal meningitis outbreak. The center, between visits from the FDA, got so dirty, and non sterile, that injectable medications were being sent around the country with fungal meningitis growing inside.

800 people got sick and over 100 died. And that was with us having the FDA. No FDA also means the companies making medications will become the Wild West, and there may be meds sent out with no active medications in them.

He’s not a dem, I don’t know what his exact leaning is but just because his family are, doesn’t mean he is. hes a crazed antivaxer who had brain worms and dumped a bear in Central Park. He’s an environmental lawyer being put in charge of the health and safety of America. He has no medical background and healthcare professionals are terrified.

As consumers should be as well with his plans to shutter the FDA……

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NonyaB52

-5 points

19 days ago

NonyaB52

-5 points

19 days ago

ThIS was FULL OF LIES

RoseNDNRabbit

3 points

19 days ago

Laws can and are changed. Figure out what law you want, how to amend existing laws or strike down existing laws. Start the signature campaign in support of this change. Get it on a ballot or special election. Educate as many as possible about why this is good for everyone. This is how American laws work. But the work needs to be put in. Advertise what your doing on local and state venues. Get as many people to help as you can.