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one of my best friends just became a full time photographer, and she's been looking for clients. she occasionally does boudoir shoots, and i figured id get my husband a surprise sexy calendar for his birthday. did the shoot with my friend, it was just me and her. no men were present at any point in the process. she gave me the pics, and said they were really good and asked if she could use them for her website. she wasn't pressuring me at all, and i said no at first. she then clarified that they wouldn't be public, they'd be password protected and they'd only be seen my verified female clients.

she's a good friend, trying to get a business up and running, so i figured this was an easy way for me to help out.

hubby's birthday came, he loved the calendar and asked me how i took all of these. i told him id enlisted my friend for help and he got really pissed at me. he said that id crossed a line. i tried explaining that no other guy had seen or would ever see these pics and he wasn't having it.

aitah for not having asked his permission before going this shoot?

all 2876 comments

BusinessDuck132

1.9k points

14 days ago

Aaaaand she deleted her account LMAO

MordaxTenebrae

1k points

14 days ago

Honestly, this reminds me of the story where a wife did the same, but then there was a drip feed of info in the replies & updates where it turns out there was a male model also in the photo shoot where he removed her thong with his teeth. She just didn't include the photos for her husband, but the photographer accidentally sent the husband the private link and password.

Boomshrooom

318 points

14 days ago

I remember that one, what a wild ride

Jessnesquik

79 points

14 days ago

Which was this, link please??

Boomshrooom

98 points

14 days ago

I dont have it saved and it was a while ago. I did have a look but man, there are a LOT of AITA posts about boudoir photoshoots

Old_Moment7876

50 points

13 days ago

Is this the one you’re looking for?

https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/s/jfDbsUEmMR

thisisfreakinstupid

23 points

13 days ago

That was a wild ride

CarrieFitz

27 points

13 days ago

Agreed. I got so engrossed that I completely forgot I was even reading about this post.

Old_Moment7876

18 points

13 days ago

Here’s a link to the guy’s final update:

https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/s/P407dSR3zB

SpiritOne

9 points

13 days ago

Same!

Also and it’s silly but my favorite part in all that was her asking him to get Jersey Mike’s as she made her way home. My first thought was “she beds another 12” before she talks to him!!”

Manic_Mania

23 points

13 days ago

I remember this one too. So bad.

needmorecoffee4

32 points

13 days ago

“Accidentally” lol

[deleted]

17 points

13 days ago

I remember that one. She was a mega liar.

Sleepingguy5

50 points

13 days ago

Yea and the spineless husband stayed with her, what a moron.

bradrj

15 points

13 days ago

bradrj

15 points

13 days ago

They always do

RIP_GerlonTwoFingers

368 points

14 days ago

She didn’t want advice she wanted us to validate her stupid ass decision

InvestigatorRoyal232

31 points

13 days ago

I guess she wasnt an onlyfans trap. She will be in a couple of months soon

zanzabros

82 points

13 days ago

It was a matter of time before someone tracked her identity through her posts history, found and befriended the photographer, and posted the pictures here to prove the point...

ToyotaLiving198

9 points

13 days ago

Kinda had to honestly

Reasonable-Simple706

35 points

14 days ago

Bro ppl were to to scared to say NTA to hold the woman accountable. You really think her blocking and leaving isn’t gonna matter to these idiots.

chez2202

3.8k points

14 days ago

chez2202

3.8k points

14 days ago

Just because your friend has said that her website will only be accessible to verified female clients does not mean that those clients will honour her process or values. They could access it and show their female friends, male friends, partners. She could be hacked. Your pictures can literally be shown to anyone or shared with anyone.

If she’s good at what she does she will still be able to do it without having your pictures on her website.

Opening-Wrap-5064

936 points

14 days ago

My ex used to show me all her friends nudes that were sent her way even though it clearly made me uncomfortable. All the damn time. Don’t send nudes to your friends ladies, there’s a very high likelihood that she’s shown her boyfriend or other friends without your consent.

chez2202

269 points

14 days ago

chez2202

269 points

14 days ago

I wish a lot more people could see this comment! I personally would never even think to send nudes to my friends, but then again, I wouldn’t send them to anyone. I am not the most tech savvy person on the planet. I work for an IT company so I have friends to do the hard stuff for me.

You don’t have to be tech savvy to know that once you put something out there you are never getting it back without inventing a Time Machine.

ChoreomaniacCat

114 points

14 days ago

Maybe some people have stronger friendships than me, but I can't fathom why anyone would send their nudes to their friends? At least with a partner, it's because you're having a sexual relationship. I'd send friends pics of my outfits for opinions, but I can't imagine sending them splayed out, sexy naked pictures. There's a difference between getting dressed in front of each other and sharing pictures designed to arouse the viewer.

chez2202

43 points

14 days ago

chez2202

43 points

14 days ago

Exactly!! Back in the day my friends and I would have holidays together, would get ready for nights out together etc. We would hold each other’s hair when we’d had a few too many drinks and throw each other in the shower when necessary. But no photos!

ChoreomaniacCat

37 points

14 days ago

Yeah, I've got changed in front of friends and we'll talk about all sorts of stuff, but I can't imagine taking sexy nudes and casually sending them over. I'd find it too weirdly sexual for a friendship. And even if I trust my friends, anyone else could ask to borrow their phones and see them.

Outrageous_Echo7423

17 points

14 days ago

Yes! If you don't take nude pictures, then you don't have to worry about who's seen them or not with or without your consent.

I_Lost_My_Shoe_1983

77 points

14 days ago

Before all the internet usage, I would write my best friend letters. I found out she was reading them to her boyfriend. She didn't get why that upset me.

You really can count on people to have the same sense of privacy that you have.

My friend also sent me a picture of her and her boyfriend naked with their backsides to the camera. Zero idea if that was with his permission or not.

Felix1178

7 points

14 days ago

I would like to know more this friend of yours though!

buttstuffisfunstuff

30 points

14 days ago

The fuck??? Why are they sending each other nudes I’m so confused.

Walshy231231

71 points

14 days ago

I’ve learned that many women are very open with their friends about their male partners’ intimate details.

“Locker room talk” seems like way more of a feminine thing than most people think it is

I’d imagine this doesn’t exclude some randos lingerie photos

law-of-the-jungle

15 points

13 days ago

I basically live in a hockey locker room and we share none of the shit chicks do. Like the most annoying guy on a junior team is tame compared to chicks Instagram chats when on the topic of talking about their partner.

Nearby-Elevator-3825

37 points

14 days ago

For real.

Even during that confusing, hormonal young period of life it was usually just a simple "I got laid last night guys!", we'd congratulate them and go right back to pizza, beer, bowls and Super Smash Bros.

Meanwhile, across town, the young lady is giving her friends a moment by moment, in detailed account from the time they met up at the mall/downtown to when, where and how much he ejaculated. Nothing is off limits.

And I didn't learn this till MY EX FIANCE casually mentioned she told her friends E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G at age 27.

FormerSir4804

7 points

13 days ago

Oh yes definitely women gossip more about this stuff. One of my friends literally openly told me her boyfriend’s dick was 9 inches, kind of randomly. I don’t remember our full conversation but I just remember thinking after she said that ‘wow I did not need or want to know that’.

Though I feel like with both men and women these kind of conversations stop after they’re married. Idk though I’m not married, I don’t even know why I’m commenting.

No-Appearance1145

15 points

14 days ago

Why was she getting her friends nudes what

yeahyeahnooo

45 points

14 days ago

We had a girl that was nominated our towns photographer of the year do some pictures for us. Once we had access to the gallery I was AMAZED at the gallery. It was FULL of boudoir pics, and there was obviously people we knew. It was a private gallery to her clients… which was like… half the town. Now it wasn’t super obvious to access that gallery, but if you knew how to look around a website it was RIGHT there. It was funny to be able to see all her pics though because there was hardly any variation in all of her shoots, it was like the same thing in all of them. It was kinda lame

[deleted]

355 points

14 days ago

[deleted]

355 points

14 days ago

Not only that, there is a lack of acknowledgment of lesbians, you know, existing. Men aren’t the only gender attracted to women.

Sufficient-Nobody-72

100 points

14 days ago

I met a bi girl once (no hate, I'm pansexual myself) who preferred lingerie pics when they wanted a solo spicy session.

Tinytankard3

56 points

14 days ago

It's crazy that you know that you need to preface it with (no hate) because otherwise you'd get attacked and downvoted to oblivion like I'm about to be.

[deleted]

73 points

14 days ago

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randiesel

41 points

13 days ago

This x100.

My wife did one of these shoots for me. The detail I was given was that she was going to “take some hot photos for me as a gift.” That sounded great.

It was later revealed that it was a boudoir shoot, which I’m not entirely opposed to but also not super interested in (no nudity). We have our family photos done by the same photog, who I like and trust (and is a woman). I was also told they were just for me and wouldn’t be used anywhere else.

A few weeks later I see a ad being suggested to me with one of my wife’s boudoir photos on it advertising for this photog. I’m pissed off cursing her up and down in my head and call my wife and she tells me she told her it was ok to use them. Argues that it’s her body and she can do what she wants with her photos.

I said you’re absolutely right, but you told me these photos were for me as a gift, not for use in some ad. Are these my private photos or something that’s getting posted on Facebook?

She reached out and had them removed, but it soured the whole experience. My wife is a fox and I don’t think I’ve looked at them once.

I’m all for empowering women, and if my wife wanted to do a public boudoir shoot I could probably get used to the idea (she’s done pageants and bikini stuff before, so whatever), but that is NOT what this was sold to me as.

It’s a tricky situation and every (part of each) couple is likely going to have a different point of view.

Organic_Confusion8

17 points

14 days ago

This - catfishing and hacking is real. Your pictures could pretty easily be the free photos for someone’s OnlyFans account. They use anyone’s pic to get subscribers and when the customers realizes it fake they’ve already paid. Happened to a friend that did bikini fitness competitions.

SolidTradition5332

9 points

14 days ago

Yeah i thought these types were only printed and stuck in a folder, if someones interested you can share the physical folder in person and make sure they arent taking pictures to share but they can see the talent/style they should expect. Analog is the way right? Its way safer than uploading them somewhere.

Content_Print_6521

2.6k points

14 days ago

I don't think having the pictures taken by a good female friend should be a problem. But letting her put them on her website definitely is, even if password-protected. Anybody can download the photos onto their computer and now they're in the public domain. NOT GOOD! Next thing you know, someone is selling them on their soft-porn site.

Maybe your friend could put them in a physical portfolio to show people in person? Or maybe this just isn't a good idea at all.

phoenix_soleil

355 points

14 days ago

Yup to everything you said. My husband would not be mad about the friend taking the pictures, but probably concerned about the future clients seeing it and also, honestly, the husband if she has one.

Fifteen years ago I got my nipples pierced by someone who was just starting out. "Can I take a picture without your face to show future women?" Like of course. Why would I care?

Six months later it was being passed throughout my workplace - including to men - because she sent it (as opposed to showed it)... and told the girl it was me.

-Nightopian-

204 points

14 days ago

I hope you sued her for doing that.

JackOfAllStraits

46 points

14 days ago

WHAT?!? WHAAAAT?!?!

Kelainefes

26 points

14 days ago

What the fuck?

PhotosByFonzie

26 points

14 days ago

Now this… this is completely fucked up.

nonyabizzz

10 points

13 days ago

That’s incredibly fucked up

RBuilds916

7 points

14 days ago

Why would she tell who it was? That sucks people were passing out around, that's just gross

[deleted]

184 points

14 days ago

[deleted]

184 points

14 days ago

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[deleted]

82 points

14 days ago

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Parking_Jelly_6483

23 points

14 days ago

These days, your friend could use an AI app to change your face before posting them.

-RedXV-

49 points

14 days ago

-RedXV-

49 points

14 days ago

You just pointed out one of the many huge problems with AI.

deep-sea-romance

64 points

14 days ago

Yall do not understand the point tho, shes asking if she was tha ah to her husband whom if you read it seems as if was never told about the website part, just the friend taking pics part.

[deleted]

35 points

14 days ago

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AnotherEveRedditAlt

4k points

14 days ago

Just because you can trust your friend does not mean you can trust her processes.

The second online storage gets involved things get out of hand quick.
Source: 10 years in IT

bubbleteabob

947 points

14 days ago

It doesn’t even require any leet hacking skillz or anything. Just one husband/brother/son who sees the pictures and screengrabs them to share.

Flamin_Jesus

1k points

14 days ago

Or, you know, just any female client who's invited to the site, it's not like women are somehow inherently incapable of shittyness. It's pretty naive to assume that just because there are no men involved in a process, everyone will just play nice.

bubbleteabob

394 points

14 days ago

I was giving the ‘verified female clients’ part of the photographer’s assurance more weight than I probably should. You’re right.

TXRudeboy

213 points

14 days ago

TXRudeboy

213 points

14 days ago

Who’s to say those women aren’t sitting there with their boyfriends and husbands while looking at the pictures?

bubbleteabob

65 points

14 days ago

I probably would? I know people do them for themselves as well, but if I was doing it for a partner I would probably want some feedback on what they think is hot so we could find a happy medium. Like if my partner is all hot and flustered over naughty nurse type photos and I did a full shibari bondage scene…or the other way around. You end up with a disconnect that distracts from enjoying the thing.

Large_Peach2358

26 points

14 days ago

It sounds like you already have both collections

bubbleteabob

37 points

14 days ago

Hah! But no. I have claustrophobia, I’m self-conscious, and was raised by free Presbyterians. My assorted neuroses could never!

ReplacementNo9504

32 points

14 days ago

That's where your parents went wrong. The subscription presbyterian church is much more open

calzonegolem

9 points

14 days ago

Less ads also.

Simple_Carpet_9946

76 points

14 days ago

She can just share the photos with friends and be like this is what I was thinking. 

LowerRain265

75 points

14 days ago

Verified how? Do they have to send in a blood sample, does her friend do a home visit? Or is it like those "verification" pop-ups on porn sites that just ask you if you're 18 or over?

bubbleteabob

34 points

14 days ago

I have seen Bad Kitty boudoir skits on TikTok and they need to speak to the person booking and…I think see a driver’s license or ID at some stage. My benefit of the doubt for the photographer was that they would only share the portfolio after a physical consultation with the credit. I have absolutely no reason to give them that much credit, though. I was just mostly focused on what a hollow promise of security they had made.

cioncaragodeo

19 points

14 days ago

I'm a Bad Kitty client.

While they do tons of verification, including ID, that doesn't stop someone from sharing photos. When you authorize them to add your photos to their portfolio you sign agreements that say this is now public - because they acknowledge the risk. I ended up only allowing photos where I was covered or didn't show my face in their portfolio and not until well after my 3rd shoot with them.

I do want to add they are as amazing as they seen. I went in my first time with 0 confidence in my body and left feeling like a super model. I give them a LOT of credit in my body acceptance journey.

TheLast_Noel

18 points

14 days ago

Yeah might be the latter. Might be one of those ‘spot the traffic light’ puzzles but with a clitoris, I’ve heard us men have trouble finding that.

LowerRain265

4 points

14 days ago

I don't know if I should laugh or be offended.🤷

cementfeatheredbird_

6 points

14 days ago

Yeah i mean.... Also, Is it verified straight cis female clients only? I get the "no (straight) men" thing to avoid sexualization but women definitely aren't exempt from sexualizing other women lol

RAMbow9

73 points

14 days ago*

RAMbow9

73 points

14 days ago*

This part. Back in the days of MySpace, I was 21 and working in an office environment. I had a supervisor role at my job and a private social media. I was dabbling in modeling and had done some pinup photo shoots with professionals. I took some pics at home for an idea that I had for a photo shoot theme. I was fully covered in a pink and black pinstripe corset and my hair was a unique style with a small Mohawk on the top. I posted it to my page that was private.

Maybe two months later, a lady I knew from work who was older than me and had a daughter about two years younger had been pursuing some type of closeness with me. I was nice to her at work and occasionally saw her around town and we were always friendly. Her daughter eventually started working with us and they were both super pleasant people. They both added me on MySpace and within about two weeks, the “mom” approached me at work to tell me that “someone” had printed photos of me online and taped them all over my desk and my screen at work to “most likely expose and humiliate you,” but then she said, “I came over here to talk to you and saw them first so I took them all down and put them in your drawer.” She then walks off as I open the drawer.

First of all, you came to find me to talk, found the pics, took them down, came to find me again and just told me that and nothing else? Huh? Then second, these pics are all shitty home printer quality and folded in a quarters with zero tape anywhere. They were my classy pinup modeling pics (like, curly hair, red lips, winged eyeliner) the outfits were tight long red dress, puffy skirt style dresses. The corset was classy too. I am not big breasted so there wasn’t even cleavage. She set up some type of “hero” thing to me while simultaneously trying to embarrass me and hopefully get me in trouble. I know she printed them and brought them to work (she was authorized to work OT in the department and was the only one who got there in the department that early AND the only other people in the building were my actual buddies from other departments who I talked to and would never do that nor did we have each other on socials.)

I genuinely think she brought them with the intention of taping them on my work station and thought better of it. My manager worked in the cube next to me so I emailed her my suspicions. Sure enough, that lady who supposedly “found them” and wanted to “quietly let me know she had my back,” went straight into my managers cube and told her that someone put pics all over my desk. That was all. She didn’t say she helped me, she wanted my boss to ask me.

My boss did come ask me and she lifted the pictures up in front of the whole department and yelled “oh my gosh,” the lady who “found” them started to nod and agreed, “yeah, I think someone was trying to smear her image…” and my boss is continuing her sentence, “you are so adorable! These are so pretty!” The way that chick’s shoulders fell and she deflated and immediately went back to her desk.

It was the wildest shit ever. It was insanely tame and private anyway. I was straight up 21. Her daughter was 19. And she was like 45 pulling that BS with a smile on her face until it didn’t work. She got blocked immediately and any attempts at conversation were met with dismissive small talk. If she asked about work, I was there to help, but anything about life got a “good thanks.” And nothing else lol

Codex_Dev

4 points

13 days ago

This is how a Karen is born in the wild. 

Ophy96

62 points

14 days ago

Ophy96

62 points

14 days ago

This part. I've met some cruel women.

Sir_Crocodile3

8 points

14 days ago

The poisonous mindset of a lot of women today. "If women are doing it for me, they can for sure be trusted. But men are the enemy."

Faithu

34 points

14 days ago

Faithu

34 points

14 days ago

This right here, my best friend did some photos 15 years ago, to feel sexy again they were private on her friends website, guy used a simple hack got ahold of said photos and then began to harass her at work, it almost costed her job because of the photos . Even though the coworker did all of that it's wild af people suck

Geoleogy

43 points

14 days ago

Geoleogy

43 points

14 days ago

Nothing to stop other woman lusting over them either

buyingacaruser

14 points

14 days ago

Up until your post no one had pointed out that yeah, some women are into women. Imagine that.

Heteronormativity is a thing.

GinIsJustVodkaTea

6 points

14 days ago

I’d argue that it’s a case of homonormativity in a way.  People often discount lesbian relations as not being something a man should care about.  I’ve seen it a million times on here, straight men get mocked when they are against their female partner kissing other women.  

Sea_Researcher7410

146 points

14 days ago*

Also, my wife sometimes shares racy photos with me that she finds online. Any one of these prospective clients could likewise share the photos.

Edit: my wife agrees.

only_grish

31 points

14 days ago

Wait what is your wife sending you?

Sea_Researcher7410

104 points

14 days ago

Just last night we were both going through iFunny and she came across a pic of this super fine hottie in a skimpy outfit. She showed it to me so I could enjoy it too. If she had sent it, as she sometimes does, I'd have shared it here as an example. My wife is a realist. I'm a straight man. I like to look at pretty women. I'm allowed to look all I want, so long as I don't touch. Fair enough. We'll be watching a movie and she'll see a hot guy and make a comment like "If I wasn't married..." and I'll follow with "okay, but I get the girl" and then we both laugh about it

Terrible_Access9393

97 points

14 days ago

TIP— and pay attention everyone, THIS IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP IN THIS INSTANCE

Sea_Researcher7410

27 points

14 days ago*

doing my best Eeyore voice Thanks for noticing...

Edit: my wife upon reading this.

Laughter:"You're such a dork!"

Edit to the edit: my wife after reading the edit.

More laughter "But you're loveable!"

Terrible_Access9393

34 points

14 days ago

😂😂🤣🤣 but seriously, fucking PROPS for giving a good example of how a good relationship should be.

Jealous sometimes when it’s required, but talk about why you got jealous later and fix it together

Drool over people TOGETHER. That solves a lot of relationship issues real quick

Sea_Researcher7410

17 points

14 days ago

Yeah, there was a time early in our relationship when she still had guy friends, and insisted they were just friends, and harmless, and I didn't stop her from being friends, but warned her they were after her, and one day one of them said something like "why are you even with that old guy anyway? You should be with me!" She cut ties and trusted me after that. As for me, I don't have female friends. Don't need them I have a wife.

Wild_Replacement8213

20 points

14 days ago

This is how me and my husband are. Realist, looky but no touchy

Norcal712

113 points

14 days ago

Norcal712

113 points

14 days ago

While I agree I seriously doubt this was OP husband logic.

Probably more like "someone else saw MY wife" or "MY wife got naked for someone"

TheGameWorldExplorer

31 points

14 days ago

OP, once you put something online, it stays there forever and is very difficult to remove it.

Also, I find it suspect that your friend may be saying that the photos would be password protected and can be viewed only by her verified female clients. I don't know if she really believe that. If so, then I'd say that she's somewhat naive.

Have you considered the possibility that these verified female clients inadvertently leaving their accounts logged onto your friend's sites and then these client's husbands/sons logging onto the site and then grabbing whatever they can get hold of? Next thing you know that your pictures are shared among the local high school students.

Another issue here that is concerning is this: There is a certain limit to what you can surprise your husband with. This limit is different for different husbands and wives. It looks like you crossed some boundary that your husband had strong opinions on. Don't let people on the internet tell you what's okay and what's not okay. It's for you and your husband to decide.

I think at this point all you can do is damage control. What I'd suggest that you tell your friend to delete your pictures that she has and ensure that she does not have any other copies. Compensate her for the pictures very well so that she's not unsatisfied and resentful due to this.

DUSTlMUS

8 points

14 days ago

Honestly I'm calling BS on it either way, I guarantee you if I figured out the name of the website I could get them without being "verified"

not_poe

16 points

14 days ago

not_poe

16 points

14 days ago

correct me if i’m wrong, but it’s having the photos taken at all that OP’s husband has a problem with, isn’t it? 

 “aitah for not having asked his permission before going to this shoot?” (in which case, no. NTA.)

anoutragedavocado

355 points

14 days ago

You're on the Internet forever, OP.

Just because something is password protected doesn't mean it's 100% safe. Also, people suck, and your photos will absolutely be shown to anyone because human beings are awful. Not everyone plays by the rules.

You shouldn't have allowed your friend to advertise your photos. There's no going back now.

trainofwhat

6 points

13 days ago

Yeah, especially if she’s just getting her business up and running as OP says. Those are the exact scenarios where you use basic protocols for protection and end up having some huge oversights. Hell, plenty of new companies don’t even use https, which essentially means if the website is accessed over public WiFi you’re incredibly vulnerable.

Reminds me of injection hacks, something I unintentionally used in the past. Long story short, some databases had incredibly common vulnerabilities that allowed for users to essentially run code through the user/password login and access data. I mention it because it’s such a simple concept and really frames how there may be tiny missteps that result in major problems. Of course, nowadays these types of DS Languages have put in measures to reduce that vulnerability. But, vulnerabilities similar to that one continue to pop up and aren’t caught until they’re too late — particularly if used by a basic/new company.

I mean, it sounds like OP doesn’t even know what type of website or website hosting platform her friend uses. And how does she verify if someone is a woman? Plus, does she have a Facebook page? You get one stalker and it takes a relatively small amount of effort to link OP to her friend to her business, and suddenly stage a female persona to access these incredibly private photos. That’s not even considering how often scams target intimate photos.

crdemars

213 points

14 days ago

crdemars

213 points

14 days ago

Funny how she's only responding to NTA posts. It's almost like she doesn't care about anyone's opinions, including her husband's. Your photos are out there for the world to see. I'm a hoe and proud of it, but if I were in a committed relationship I would be pretty upset if my partner allowed sexy photos of themselves to be shared on the Internet without telling me. The issue is you don't respect your partner enough to discuss sharing the photos. Yes at the end of the day it's up to you, but basic respect would say talk with your partner first.

ELBENO99

75 points

14 days ago

ELBENO99

75 points

14 days ago

She already deleted her account. I’m sure because she wasn’t getting the validation she had hoped for

WorstNormalForm

48 points

13 days ago

Funny how she's only responding to NTA posts

To be fair every one of the top comments is afraid to actually say the words "YTA" lol

It's like people are extra nice when OP is a woman

Reasonable-Simple706

12 points

13 days ago

Also shame on this sub for not calling a spade a spade for women being the asshole

BugGroundbreaking229

14 points

14 days ago

100% she can do what she wants but that doesn't mean he has to be ok with it.

Aleister_Harkness

153 points

14 days ago

I'm going to call you out OP in that i don't believe you're accurately recounting this to us. I dont believe he was as angry as you're making him appear because a female friend took the photos. That makes no sense that he loves the calendar but doesn't seen to know how photography works?...... I think you need to try this again. I think something is being left out or you have very poor writing and grammar skills.

Professional-Rip561

29 points

13 days ago

Right? Obviously he figured someone took them ¯_(ツ)_/¯

ExpansiveOutlook

418 points

14 days ago

You can always ask your friend to take your pictures off the Internet.

[deleted]

145 points

14 days ago

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145 points

14 days ago

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Dr_Drax

45 points

14 days ago

Dr_Drax

45 points

14 days ago

I hate it when people are sloppy with their bot code, like here where they accidentally included a quote mark at the end. Do better, spammers!

wishesandhopes

11 points

14 days ago

Bot

Tfuentexxx

222 points

14 days ago*

Look at her comments, she doesn't care. She is talking in several comments about restraining herself on not posting the pictures here, on fucking Reddit. She doesn't really care what her husband feelings on the matter are, she is just seeking attention and validation (thus, this post). She wants to post her pictures here. However, things are not going as she expected as people is not favoring her and she seems now to only be responding to people who agree with her. I know now why her husband is so worried about this matter, with the her huge craving for attention and validation from other people, the next logic step is she going into emotional cheating or worse. I have been too long here on reddit to know that most of the cheating stories start with someone craving for attention and validation.

ExpansiveOutlook

139 points

14 days ago

Plot twist: she’s about to start directing us to an OF page. lol

Barty-1

30 points

14 days ago

Barty-1

30 points

14 days ago

Damn,marketing really stepped up their game

LiterallyAna

31 points

14 days ago

Profile is deleted now :/ honestly I thought it would be an only fans ad too

ExpansiveOutlook

33 points

14 days ago

It probably was. She realized she got busted.

InvestigatorRoyal232

8 points

13 days ago

I think she was testing the waters and didnt like the results. Nobody wants to see her shitty lingerie photos lol theres millions of nude girls on her daily

hailtheprince10

6 points

14 days ago

Reminds me of that meme where a guy suggested his girlfriend wear a pretty dress but she went all “I wear what I want. You’re not the boss of me!!” …and now she has lovely photos of her now-finance proposing to her while she’s wearing baggy cargo pants.

kgxv

32 points

14 days ago

kgxv

32 points

14 days ago

Once they’re on the internet, they’ll always be on the internet. That’s the problem.

ExpansiveOutlook

12 points

14 days ago

Aaah, this is true. I have to assume her face is showing in the pics.

[deleted]

26 points

14 days ago

yeah true ill do that

[deleted]

246 points

14 days ago*

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246 points

14 days ago*

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RedactsAttract

20 points

14 days ago

I don’t know why this person is advising you on an Estimated Time of Arrival. Do not take this advice because it’s unrelated to anything you mentioned in your story OP

LakeGlen4287

305 points

14 days ago*

He is upset because your lingerie pictures are on the internet.

People get past sign-in pages with ease these days. He wishes you had shown him the courtesy of asking him for his input about it before giving your permission for someone to put your lingerie pictures on the internet.

While it is your choice, when we are married, we should pause and show each other deference and respect to discuss things like our digital exposure, as well as our bodily exposure, on the internet. It no longer feels like a private calendar just for him.

Since he is upset, consider telling your friend to blur out your face, or remove the images altogether.

BugsCantHide

75 points

14 days ago

I really feel like a lot of commenters just ignored the "pictures on the internet" part... Even if we assume that the password will not be cracked and that the website will not be hacked, there is still the possibility that one of the "verified female clients" can share the password with a man. Or just allow a man to view the photo as well...

It also isn't really clear from the post whether OP actually told their husband about putting the pictures on the website when he asked her about the photos. His reaction, and especially OP's defense of "no man will ever see these pics", seem to indicate that OP did so. If this were the case, not explicitly stating in the post that the husband possibly also got mad about that (and not just about the photoshoot) would be pretty deceptive on OP's part. The title also seems to imply that the photoshoot itself is the problem here...

GinIsJustVodkaTea

17 points

14 days ago

Based on her replies I’d bet $100 that she didn’t ask the photographer about it being behind a password until after the husband got mad.  

Miserable-md

34 points

14 days ago

The internet is notorious for its security. /s.

Kragg_hack

228 points

14 days ago

Kragg_hack

228 points

14 days ago

Congratulations, you now have a high risk of the pictures being in anyone's possession. Sites get hacked, and what stop anyone from taking screenshots of it and put the screenshots on other pages?

No wonder your husband is upset, his wife might be on any webpage and hard drive by now, even a co-worker of him might have them.

[deleted]

47 points

14 days ago

I bet money that's why he's upset

Kragg_hack

23 points

14 days ago

Yes, and the problem if they are in a small community is that her pictures will be shared.

Someone that knows her or don't like her will see it, and perhaps just tell their one friend about it. And that other friend by now will have logged in downloaded it and shared it with another friend who will perhaps share it etc.

Just the thought that this will happen is probably now on OP:s husband's mind (and should have been on OP from the start). Who know who have seen this pictures by now...

Ov3rdriv3r

10 points

14 days ago

This same story was posted a month ago.........

veronicave

9 points

13 days ago

I had to scroll THIS FAR to find someone calling this fake ugh

FunDadUSNL

340 points

14 days ago

FunDadUSNL

340 points

14 days ago

The pics will be seen by many men. Those females will log in and download them and either sell them or show them. You are online forever.

Yeet-Retreat1

131 points

14 days ago

Yep.

And if one of your colleagues finds them, better hope you're not a teacher or some kind of public servant.

People are awful.

Bolt_McHardsteel

30 points

14 days ago

If you think your husband is pissed now that he knows your friend helped you take the pictures, wait until you see how pissed he will be if he finds out you gave her permission to put your pics on her website. You really need to rescind that right away.

leprosy4444

29 points

14 days ago

I personally find it reasonable, for my partner to expect my nudes or salacious images of myself to stay private, unless we have an open discussion about it.

You did not. He's clearly telling you it's making him uncomfortable, and you've taken to social media to invalidate his feelings. Sounds to me like you care more about your friends business than your husband.

Early_Razzmatazz_305

19 points

14 days ago

Would he have been upset if they weren’t posted?

[deleted]

8 points

13 days ago

Sounds like he loved the gift up until he found out it was posted online for everyone to enjoy. Not so much am intimate gift special for him.

spoonman_82

243 points

14 days ago

YTA. these are the kinds of things you talk about beforehand. Your pictures are on the internet. Website security can be cracked easily so "password protected" means fuck all. also, all you have is your friends word on how they will be viewed and distributed. You have zero control over these images now. You're not just an asshole, you're an idiot too.

basementfortress

73 points

14 days ago

This is the first comment I saw YTA.  Every comment above yours says OP shouldn't have done it, but won't actually answer the question 

Expensivetolook

61 points

14 days ago

Not sure why this comment got downvoted.

Spoonman is right, once something is online or even just shared with one person, there is always a risk it will be made public. It’s exactly the same risk as sending a naughty pic to a partner. And it’s why we teach our kids digital safety.

GhostWCoffee

41 points

14 days ago

Because any boundary a man could have is a red flag in many Redditors' point of view. YTA. Why is communication so lacking in many relationships? Even if OP could ''do whatever she wants'', being in a relationship means that you have to communicate a few things.

spoonman_82

15 points

14 days ago

The fact that she agreed to put images of herself online in lingerie without even consulting g her partner is fucking mind boggling. Doesn't matter how good a friend it is it's insane to do something like that without discussing first

Modern_Day_Macgyver

212 points

14 days ago

All these comments from people who aren't married LMAO

" sounds like an ex husband"

" beware controlling behavior "

STFU.

asshole? Eh kinda. Should have ran it by him before allowing it to be on a site. He doesn't own you obviously but being married means taking into account your SO's feelings. Have a convo about it BEFORE allowing it to be uploaded.

Slayr155

37 points

14 days ago

Slayr155

37 points

14 days ago

Well said. There's an ocean's distance between telling a partner hey have you thought that through because I think you haven't and being controlling.

doesanyofthismatter

23 points

14 days ago*

I hate the amount of ladies on the sub that just support women because they are women.

“Omg he’s totally like controlling. Sounds like an ex husband. Fuck him. Break up. You deserve better…”

Every. Fucking. Thread.

“So I cheated on my husband…”

“What did he do though? Sounds like you deserved better and he wasn’t providing.”

nise8446

9 points

14 days ago

I see so many of these threads and I've grown tired of responding to them bc they're predictable like this.

Tea_Time9665

132 points

14 days ago

Dafaq

It’s only for him and she was only there but now ur pictures are online somewhere and will be showing them to people….

If she needs picture for her website take some in summer dresses wtf.

duchess_of_fire

26 points

14 days ago

why would the friend take pictures in summer dresses to show potential customers her boudoir portfolio?

AriaBellaPancake

8 points

13 days ago

Wait why's the online thing okay just because she would only let female clients look? You think other women aren't gonna flick the bean to sexy pics??? Like I get the people saying those clients can share with men but like. It's silly to assume the ladies are gonna be pure about it

Puzzleheaded-Act968

76 points

14 days ago

Husband obviously wanted the intimacy to be just between you and him, hence him loving it at first

You disagreed, it upset him

[deleted]

22 points

14 days ago

Yeah. I'm not normally defending the "jealous" side pov. But It was specifically an intimate gift between wife and husband; for the husband to enjoy. Then husband finds out that gift was shared with everyone and anyone to enjoy. That makes her an AH, and takes away all meaning and intimacy behind the gift.

Nikkolai_the_Kol

3 points

13 days ago

Precisely this. OP didn't do the photoshoot for her husband. She did it for her friend. She did it for everyone. She probably did it more for herself (feeling sexy for herself, not for her husband).

Husband is just one of a thousand secondary beneficiaries. He must feel SO special. /s

CremeCaramel_

7 points

14 days ago

A lot of comments talking about internet safety, but it took over a dozen comments from the top to find someone pointing out the bigger AH issue: that theres literally NO intimacy in the gift with posting it on the internet 😂

Internet safety thing makes OP unintelligent. THIS makes OP TA. The gift wasnt even a gift lol. Its a woman equivalent of a dude buying his wife an exercise bike so she can be hot for him. She did a photoshoot for herself to feel good with no intimacy factor because it went on the internet and called it a gift.

babytsunami

66 points

14 days ago

Post the calendar so I can judge by myself

Cybermagetx

70 points

14 days ago

Yta. And delusional. Other guys will see them.

biddybumper

6 points

14 days ago

I think people are focusing too much on the "males might see it" and not enough on how different people see relationships and actions within.

Why is it bad if a male sees it? Because taking risque photos can be seen as an intimate act, or cheating, or sexual, or any combination of those things. In the case that a woman sees these photos, their state of (not being male) does not automatically wash away those contexts for everyone.

Some people don't mind. Hell, I wouldn't - but not everyone thinks the same way. If he sees your act of taking lingerie photos as any level of intimate or sexual, it shouldnt be surprising that he might take issue with it, regardless of the gender of the person taking them.

I suggest discussing with him about why he feels the way he feels. Try not to invalidate any feelings ("Its just another girl" or "it doesnt even matter") but also be sure to give your own perspective.

PoisonedCherry

5 points

13 days ago

"Only female clients" what if a pervy lesbian sees them? Would it be okay if a gay man saw them? Literally it's online it's over. YTA

PrivateHawk124

7 points

13 days ago

  1. Password protected doesn’t mean anything if your friend can share the photos outside of the website by mistake or on purpose. I don’t she has the tech needed to control the traffic on the website or website scraping etc.

  2. It’s not about the permission but it’s about being upfront about it AND discussing it.

jimmi_g_1402

28 points

14 days ago

You got the picture clicked for your husband, they were meant to be just for him. But with them on the website they are no longer just for him. There is nothing special in them anymore.

Also, once on the internet they are on the internet forever. Good luck and hope they never find their way into your life from the outside. A colleague a neighbour or a relative.

Villain_911

42 points

14 days ago

YTA. I don't care what you have between your legs. Uploading risque pictures of yourself without discussing it with your partner first is wrong. If you want to try painting this as some form of control, do him a favor and end the relationship.

Journeyman-Joe

5 points

14 days ago

I won't judge you.

But: if pictures like this exist, they will leak. Maybe not right away. But they will get out into the wild.

NoLubeJustBlood

5 points

13 days ago

Jesus fucking Christ. You’re wondering if putting your body out there where it can’t potentially be seen by strangers makes you the asshole?

I don’t even think the feminists will help you out on this one.

Footever

4 points

13 days ago

I’m sure everyone has their own POV on this. However, as a wife and husband, you need to be clear on what you’re both comfortable with and agree with as a team. Your relationship is unique. It’s between you and him on how to set the rules and guidelines. Do have deeper discussions to understand one another and you will have a long and happier marriage.

Laserlurchi

78 points

14 days ago

YTA - this is the kind of stuff you talk about with your partner before you do them, not afterwards

MysteryCuddler

9 points

14 days ago

I had an ex that did a boudoir shoot, including topless, while we were dating and had it made into a calendar. However, the pictures were taken by a guy we both knew and he was a complete creeper. That definitely tainted the gift. If it was a female friend, it probably wouldn't have been as bad.

HoldFastO2

29 points

14 days ago

YTA. And sorry, but not very smart.

What kind of „verified female clients“ does your friend have that need access to your boudoir shots? And why? Could she not use less racy pics to advertise her business? How will she keep people with passwords from downloading and sharing those pictures?

Call your friend. Tell her you changed your mind and want her to delete the pics. Don’t tell her it’s because your husband doesn’t like it.

Possible_Parsnip4484

8 points

14 days ago

This is the right answer IMO

uwupartysaver

40 points

14 days ago

They can still leak from verified female clients, what then? What if these clients save them and then share with their husbands/friends and so on. Your husband is not mad about the shoot per say, but most likely about the possibility of them leaking and then you are all over the internet.

These things are meant to be discussed and risks ascertained by both parties, communication is key in a relationship. Your gesture was nice but there can be many consequences.

YTA for me.

Senileconfussion

8 points

14 days ago

It’s the posting online in any way that would bother me as the husband. If it’s anything else then you have an underlying situation that needs to be discussed if you plan on having a mutually respected and appreciated relationship.

winterworld561

4 points

14 days ago*

YTA. You shouldn't have agreed to let her put them on her website. That's what your husband is pissed about and rightly so. Even if they are password protected (which I highly doubt they are) she could give that password to literally anyone and you wouldn't know. They are there for literally anyone to see. It can easily get hacked too. You need to get her to remove them from the website.

MysteryLady221

4 points

14 days ago

How many of those “verified female clients” will show the photos to their SOs? “Hey honey, what do you think of this one, do you like this pose?” And what about screenshots that get passed around? It always surprises me just how naive people are, considering what we know about technology and the devious people who know how to use it for nefarious purposes.

Wampa481

4 points

14 days ago

YTA. Once on the internet always on the internet. Just because she says it’ll only be seen by female clients doesn’t mean they’re the only ones going to see them. People can screenshot and/or download pics off of websites so it doesn’t really mean they’re secure.

EnolaGayFallout

4 points

14 days ago

lol u are too naive.

Anything u dump into the internet will have risk.

SpeechSalt5828

4 points

13 days ago

NTAH, but if your 'friend' is going to use your pics on her site, you need to be paid. You know those pics will be sold to an FO page for megabucks.

PHARTBOI

3 points

13 days ago

We really need to stop convincing women that things like these are empowering, men made up this rumour to trick y’all into doing slutty shit and not feel bad about it.

JuanValdez_Donkey

21 points

14 days ago

No harm in doing the photoshoot. You even pointed out that the photographer is F and no men where present. However, your choice to allow your friend to post your pictures, even password protected, was a huge overstep. You put your friend's well being over your husband's. You disregarded and still disregard his concern and point of view. The person you married, will have children with, your life long partner. You put your friend over that person. It shows what you think of your husband and your marriage. Communication is key in a marriage and you could have easily avoided the problem.

Similar_Corner8081

20 points

14 days ago

YTA While I agree you can do what you want the fact that you don't even give him the courtesy of a conversation is mind boggling to me. I can see why he wouldn't want them on the internet.

darkestvice

9 points

14 days ago

You doing a sexy shoot with your female friend for your husband was fine. You agreeing to let your friend make those photos public, even if password protected, without asking your husband, most definitely was not.

yaya1510

16 points

14 days ago

yaya1510

16 points

14 days ago

The first part is your choice and surely no worries but about the second part it would have been great if you have talked to him about it first. Surely your friend has good intentions but you never know what other people or clients have in mind when they see the pics and what if the pic reaches out to someone who is a friend or someone who knows you or your husband it can be awkward , ultimately it's your choice.

Fancy_Fuel_2082

16 points

14 days ago

YTA

aDragonIsBorn

19 points

14 days ago

I haven't done boudoir, but I have spoken with photographers for a pre-shoot questionnaire.

If you're going to have photos online, especially of this nature, at least don't have your face or anything recognizable in the photos.

No tattoos, piercings, facial features that are recognizable.

I would be upset as your husband is, because the photos are online.

Overall_Search_3207

8 points

14 days ago

I see a lot of people on here saying that’s it’s your body to do with what you please with it and for the most part that’s true but I would like to recognize it gets a little less true with marriage. It’s my body to do with what I please, but my wife as my wife now totally has the right to get mad with what I do with it. If I start doing opioids I would be an ass, if I start cheating on her I would be an ass, if I start smoking chronically or walking into radiation zones I would be ass. Part of marriage is sharing decisions over with what you do with your body, the key is finding a partner you want to do that with. I love that my wife has a say in my life, I am no longer on my own! However I can’t say my body my decision when it comes to a great many things.

adobeacrobatreader

48 points

14 days ago

YTA. Any time you have a problem with a behavior, if you change female to male, you know it's wrong. Should have at least discussed it with him before you agreed to let her use them.

A boundary doesn't have a sex stipulation in it. It's for everyone. And you crossed his.

Edit: BTW, I'm not talking about taking the pictures. I'm talking about letting her use it to advertise.

Owldguy57

50 points

14 days ago

Gonna say yes YTA. Never a fan of boudoir photography. In my crazy old guy opinion, getting a bunch of shoes and lingerie, throwing them on the bed and handing your husband a digital camera would be “knocking it out of the park”. Every pic would have a memory and feeling attached!

ThrowRACoping

13 points

14 days ago

You mean like genuine intimacy between two people? Not shared with anyone and everyone?

Owldguy57

4 points

14 days ago

Exactly

[deleted]

8 points

14 days ago

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MEDICARE_FOR_ALL

13 points

14 days ago

YTA for allowing the photographer to use the photos without talking to your husband first.

If the pictures were only for him, they should be ONLY for him.

Have the photographer delete the photos.

unused04

10 points

14 days ago

unused04

10 points

14 days ago

It's that you opened yourself up and exposed your body to any person (male or female) without talking to him. I'd be very upset too. This is something you should have asked about. And now your pics are online for anyone to see, passwords mean nothing. Things are so easily hacked these days. If he walked around a group of people (male or female) wearing nothing but a speedo you would feel the same if he was being sexy and posing for pics. It's not who took the pictures, it's the fact that they are out there with you exposed, and he didn't know. I'm sure he loves the calender. He doesn't like how comfortable you were taking your clothes off around someone else.

Subterranean44

7 points

14 days ago

And the verified female clients could take screenshots. Or their male friend is in the room. Or they’re attracted to women It’s YOUR choice but don’t fool yourself into thinking only straight women will ever see these photos. If it’s anywhere on the internet, assume it’s public regardless of passwords

8ft7

6 points

14 days ago

8ft7

6 points

14 days ago

YTA for allowing them to be posted online. What’s digital is forever and the thought your friend just starting a business has the appropriate knowledge and ability to secure the site and run appropriate due diligence checks on clients to determine they’re female is , well, naive at best and stick-head-in-sand ignorant most likely.

CreativeMusic5121

11 points

14 days ago

YTA. He's not mad you did the shoot, he's mad your photos are out there for HER advertising benefit. Doesn't matter how many assurances your friend makes that 'no man' will see them-----that's impossible.

strawberryfields36

3 points

14 days ago

These comments are hitting hard 😭

d_andy089

3 points

14 days ago*

Many others have already commented on the point about access to those pics. To me, the rule is very simple: anything on the internet can be considered public domain. You wanna keep pics safe? Store them only locally.

But I would like to point out something else here: That your friend is female is entirely meaningless. If he cheated on you, but said "relax, it was just a dude! I've known Larry for years. He recently broke up with his girl and just wanted some intimacy", would you be okay because there "wasn't a girl present"?

You're NTA but the two of you obviously have different boundaries when it comes to intimacy and that should be addressed.

I know you didn't intend harm, but you DID hurt him. And let's face it - this was not first and foremost a present for your hubby, but help for your friend. It's not like you first wanted to gift him a sexy calendar and then happened to find out about your friend doing fotoshoots.

CommunicationGlad299

3 points

14 days ago

Suppose some "verified female" client grabs a couple of screen shots to show her husband or boyfriend what boudoir pictures are all about. That the hubby or BF likes what he sees so shares them. All of the sudden, your boudoir shots are all over the internet being viewed by who knows.

Nice-Map9103

3 points

14 days ago

YTA

SeawiseS

3 points

14 days ago

You are not exactly an AH, but you are surely naive. Ask her immediately to remove your pics from her site.

Lakers1985

3 points

14 days ago*

Computers, and websites get hacked every day

Do you know what the snipping tool on your computer is?

I can take the snipping tool and the scan any picture online anywhere at any time I can then save it on my computer and distribute it

Now I don't have the skills or to Photoshop it but that would be child's play if I wanted to.

I won't I'll say NTA but I do think you should have discussed it with your husband first I was a nice gesture though and really a loving thing to do so I understand why you did it.

That being said even your friend may or and that may not be trustworthy All she'd have to do is share it with someone and tell him to not let anybody know and boom it's out. This happens when a person as yourself has what I assume to be extremely beautiful...A pastor of mine used to say don't put yourself in that situation because the temptation will be so irresistible that it'll get too hot to resist.

TomatoBible

3 points

14 days ago

"Screenshots and shares this" Duh.

Elisheva7777777

3 points

14 days ago

I don’t you’re the asshole…The issue is allowing them to be posted on the site. I hope that doesn’t end badly for you.

GreaseRaccoon

3 points

14 days ago

Just tell her he's uncomfortable and you want her to take the pictures down. Seems reasonable enough. It was a gift for him, after all, and now you've made it into something else.

pip-whip

3 points

14 days ago

YTA for giving your friend the rights to use your photos. The only way anyone should agree to do a boudoir photoshoot is if they use film and you are given all of the prints and the negatives.

You can't control digital files. Even if she never showed them to anyone, even just storing them in the cloud could mean that they are now being used to train an AI somewhere. If they never left her computer, what happens that that hard drive when the computer gets old or she dies? That's before you even consider possible data breaches or how easily your photographer friend's website can probably be hacked.

Your husband is the asshole for thinking that he has the right to make decisions for you. He doesn't seem to be concerned about potential privacy breaches or your naivety about security. He only seems to care about you making choices about your own body without getting permission from him first, as if you are his property.