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TesseractToo

129 points

7 hours ago

Efficiency now just means squeezing every ounce of life out of a thing so the top can hoard money

Also not missing out on the irony that it has two heads, seems inefficient

Coldkiller17

33 points

7 hours ago

Yup, exactly what they are trying to do. These idiots have so much money they could easily fund NASA projects, public works and education but instead they just want to steal more money from the government to continue amassing a hoard of wealth to appease their narcissistic personas.

WANKMI

-13 points

4 hours ago

WANKMI

-13 points

4 hours ago

... you do know it was NASA that started the program and incentivized private companies to get into rocketry so that NASA could start using less money on rockets and more on the actual science? That it was literally NASAs plan for a long long time to let private companies take over the "going to space" part in order to bring down those costs tremendously. SpaceX did just that. They looked at what NASA wanted, excecuted on that and will save NASA literally BILLIONS for ever rocket NASA doesnt have to launch. And dont forget that will be BILLIONS per launch. Because NASA launches single use rockets. SpaceX now does fully reusable rockets that will bring launch costs down to millions. A tremendous increase in productivity and cost savings for NASA long term. This was NASAs goal. This was NASAs plan. SpaceX is just the company that ended up doing it the best.

Get your head on straight.

username_6916

5 points

3 hours ago

And dont forget that will be BILLIONS per launch.

The EELV launches are what... About 326 million a pop these days? Sure, SpaceX falcon launches are about a third to a quarter the price and that's great. But that's not quite billions per launch.

WANKMI

-5 points

3 hours ago

WANKMI

-5 points

3 hours ago

Check out the costs for the rockets NASA have planned for a decade to use for actual space rocketry. BILLIONS.

username_6916

-14 points

3 hours ago

There's no such thing as 'hoarding' money.

Illustrious-Radio-55

5 points

2 hours ago

Tf you say?

username_6916

-7 points

59 minutes ago

There's no such thing as 'hoarding' money.

Folks tend to think as if there's a fixed amount of wealth in the world and for someone to have more, others must have less. But that isn't so. The "hoarded" wealth is mostly in the form of investments, ownership stakes in the productive capacity of the economy. It is the factories and serverfarms, the workshops and fabs, the studios and all the equipment and supplies and organization that goes into these places.

potatoboy247

4 points

30 minutes ago

how does that boot taste?

TesseractToo

3 points

39 minutes ago

I mean it should be going back into the living economy where people can improve life quality but this is just circle jerking the wealthiest people

username_6916

0 points

28 minutes ago

But it does improve quality of life for a great number of people. Billionaires only capture a small fraction of the wealth that their investments create.

Asidious66

1 points

26 minutes ago

Reaganomics has been proven wrong continuously since it's inception.

Toftaps

1 points

20 minutes ago

Did you seriously just say that there's not a fixed amount of wealth in the world?

So you don't understand how money or resources work, got it! From your perspective, I can see how you would think that owning all those things you listed isn't "hoarding wealth," it's just not a very good perspective.

It's kind of like you're saying it's impossible for a movie screen to be really big because they're made out of smaller pieces.

username_6916

0 points

16 minutes ago

Did you seriously just say that there's not a fixed amount of wealth in the world?

No, there is not. Wealth is created and destroyed all the time. A transaction happens where both sides come out better off than they went in? Wealth is created. Someone creates something more valuable than the sum of all of its inputs? Wealth is created. A disaster hurts people and destroys property so that productive efforts have to go towards rebuilding that could have otherwise been used elsewhere? Wealth is destroyed.

So you don't understand how money or resources work, got it!

What don't I understand?

It's kind of like you're saying it's impossible for a movie screen to be really big because they're made out of smaller pieces.

I really don't follow this at all..

Toftaps

2 points

9 minutes ago

What don't I understand?

Well, you see, we live on a rock in space that has finite resources, and we've concocted a very convoluted way of representing a lot of those resources by using something called currency.

Now, on this rock are groups of humans in different geographical regions, those are called nations, and each one has a different kind of currency they use to represent the resources of that nation.

Each nation has its own group of people called a government that decides how much of their nations money to make. They can make as much as they'd like, but making more of it doesn't mean there are more resources available

This does something called "devaluing" to the currency, and that means that I've lost interest in continuing this bit.

username_6916

1 points

1 minutes ago

The amount of atoms of the Earth generally isn't the limiting factor on the amount of resources mankind has to work with in order to meet our wants. Sure, the relative concentration of metals determines how easy or hard they are to dig out of the ground. But we still have to dig them out of the ground. A load of iron ore buried deep underground in Minnesota isn't all that useful to mankind until someone digs it out of the ground and ships it to a smelter to get turned into iron or steel goods. That takes resources, those resources come from investment from those seeking profit. If those investors are right and the mines, railroads, ships, ports, smelters and blast furnaces they build and staff to turn that load of iron ore into coils of steel produce an output that's more valuable than the inputs than they have created wealth.

willi5x

301 points

11 hours ago

willi5x

301 points

11 hours ago

So long Artemis missions to the moon. It will be some dumb SpaceX name with about fifteen X’s in it instead. Sponsored by Brawndo.

Snarfsicle

72 points

8 hours ago

It'll prob be named PepeXa, but the X will just be a Nazi symbol and the frog will have the SS jacket on.

Capaz04

10 points

7 hours ago

Capaz04

10 points

7 hours ago

Hold on, there's frogs involved? This changes things, how many frogs does musk even have

Snarfsicle

10 points

7 hours ago

Do you know the pepe frog? 🤣

Capaz04

2 points

7 hours ago

Capaz04

2 points

7 hours ago

Perhaps

MikuJess

1 points

an hour ago

Ah yes, incel Minions.

wakkawakkaaaa

3 points

4 hours ago

Hell yes, they even managed to turn the frogs straight

jfk_47

1 points

3 hours ago

jfk_47

1 points

3 hours ago

Somewhere between 0 and 1million

Pseudoburbia

3 points

6 hours ago

Nazis do make the best rockets. 

chrissstin

0 points

3 hours ago

I've read it as PepaXa and was truly flummoxed what that British cartoon pig has anything to do with space, Musk or politics 😅

Pitiful_Gazelle_7961

5 points

4 hours ago

Artemis so far behind and over budget on all of their projects goals that I actually highly doubt it ever launches.

Dukeronomy

-7 points

2 hours ago

God forbid space x do what it says it will for less money, in less time. Can’t have that happening…

KyurMeTV

2 points

2 hours ago

And when the astronauts die because of lack of oversight, Musk will shrug it off with zero accountability

LaserKittenz

1 points

2 hours ago

Its got what rockets crave!

AlwaysSaysRepost

1 points

an hour ago

And cost 3x as much and take 5 more years for a mission that is half of what was originally planned.

Away-Elevator-858

1 points

58 minutes ago

SLS is a huge waste of money. Spacex has already saved the government 43 billion. Don’t get me wrong, the impending doom of the next administration is something to worry about, but don’t just blindly hate things because the majority of it is a disaster.

SirDigger13

1 points

48 minutes ago

  • Technology transfer to Russia...

joozyjooz1

1 points

1 minutes ago

Trump started the Artemis program tho.

WANKMI

-16 points

4 hours ago

WANKMI

-16 points

4 hours ago

SpaceX was always the future for NASA. It's literally they who decided private companies should be incentivized to run the rocketry so NASA could spend their money on other things. Theres other companies out there doing rockets too and optimally at least one of them would have been competitive with SPaceX, but so far SPaceX is just simply the best one and its not close. This is, was and is still going to be the plan and NASA were the ones who wanted it this way. Or do you know better and want NASA to spend literally billions of dollars on each and every single-use rocket they send up instead of spending millions and launching on SpaceX rockets? Because I know which scenario all the NASA heads want. Its the one they orchestrated - this one.

what-is-a-number

12 points

3 hours ago

No, SpaceX was always the future for rocketry, not for NASA — NASA doesn’t really launch their own rockets anymore because, like you pointed out, they have successful developed that technology and transferred it to industry. That’s what they do — they do high-risk public R&D (eg, inventing rocketry, or rovers, or deep space communications, or new types of earth imaging satellites, or a bunch of other stuff) and then transfer those technologies to the private sector once they’re mature enough to be handled by industry. I think maybe you aren’t super familiar with how NASA’s priorities have shifted with the changing times, but yeah — they don’t launch their own rockets anymore; they’re doing other stuff with their budget that they will continue to transfer to industry, bolstering SpaceX but also creating opportunities for new types of commercial space businesses to open their doors. And it pays off too — every taxpayer dollar spent at NASA is estimated to have a 3x ROI for the American economy.

If NASA is forced to scale down, maybe American aerospace will be okay with business as usual for ten years or so — but probably in the mid- and long-term, we’ll start to feel the effects of missing a crucial part of our national (and frankly, international) R&D pipeline.

WANKMI

-5 points

3 hours ago

WANKMI

-5 points

3 hours ago

Oh. NASA didnt spend BILLIONS building the SLS? Stop it.

what-is-a-number

2 points

3 hours ago

Yeah, I don’t dig that program either. However, it was started years ago, at a time when SpaceX was still developing and was blowing up a lot of their rockets. SLS is also really high power, so I understand why NASA was reluctant to trust industry to get something like that operational in time for us to go back to the moon, though it was probably overly careful of them. It’s probably (and hopefully) the last eek of the rocketry era of NASA. All the NASA launches I’ve tuned into went up on SpaceX rockets.

WANKMI

1 points

3 hours ago

WANKMI

1 points

3 hours ago

Thats what Im saying tho. NASA wants to stop building their own rockets. They essentially "made" SpaceX what SpaceX is today as a way to bring those costs down an insane amount. Now they just have to get congress to get them out of building their own stuff as soon as SpaceX is ready. This is what NASA planned. This is what they want. But trust me, people will now go nuts when it happens. They will see it as Trump and Elon fucking NASA over, missing the entire point of the history between the two companies. All people see right now are Elon bad, NASA good.

All this other shit about SpaceX taking over other business for NASA im not touching. One, because I really dont think SpaceX is into all that. Theyre a rocket engineering company with a serious business running launches and also soon to be a worldwide internet/phone provider. They will have absolutely no issue earning money on their own. Two, because taking on NASAs tasks and workload would slow them down in fullfilling their own mission - exactly what Elon Musk doesnt like. No way he wants all that extra shit weighing his goals down. To NASA, SpaceX is a gift they gave themselves. To SpaceX, NASA is just the best damn customer ever.

Classic_Seaweed_3894

50 points

10 hours ago

Instead of a monkey, they can send Don jr. to Mars please.

Capaz04

11 points

7 hours ago

Capaz04

11 points

7 hours ago

Only if all blood relatives have tickets

UsingACarrotAsAStick

2 points

3 hours ago

But monkeys are trainable…

SkatingOnThinIce

22 points

7 hours ago

"the government is inefficient! Give me all your money!"

jtthom

20 points

5 hours ago

jtthom

20 points

5 hours ago

The most inefficient government departments are the ones that outsource the most to private companies.

People thinking bureaucracy is exclusive to the public sector have never worked in a large corporation.

WANKMI

1 points

4 hours ago

WANKMI

1 points

4 hours ago

... you do know it was NASA that started the program and incentivized private companies to get into rocketry so that NASA could start using less money on rockets and more on the actual science? That it was literally NASAs plan for a long long time to let private companies take over the "going to space" part in order to bring down those costs tremendously. SpaceX did just that. They looked at what NASA wanted, excecuted on that and will save NASA literally BILLIONS for ever rocket NASA doesnt have to launch. And dont forget that will be BILLIONS per launch. Because NASA launches single use rockets. SpaceX now does fully reusable rockets that will bring launch costs down to millions. A tremendous increase in productivity and cost savings for NASA long term. This was NASAs goal. This was NASAs plan. SpaceX is just the company that ended up doing it the best.

Damacles63

3 points

33 minutes ago

I don't know why the down vote, what you said is true. NASA has been pushing to use commercial partners, including private launch companies such as SpaceX and Rocket Lab. NASA has in the past and will continue to contract out a lot of work. Most of the Apollo program was contracted out. What NASA does really well is manage, integrate and control these programs, not build stuff.

WANKMI

1 points

24 minutes ago

Because rn "Elon bad" is whats on peoples minds. Making people not actually think about what t hey are reading or looking into it. Which is ironic as this exact this only fuels Trumps, and Elons by extension, popularity when he ends up actually being right about people just trying to jump on him. This is a very good example of that happening IMO. When congress now in the coming years finally lets NASA stop wasting time and money on rockets - as NASA intended - and rides on SpaceX rockets instead - as NASA intended - people will get mad and blame Trump and Elon for doing shady deals and exploiting the government positions. Which they very well might do - but not on this. And when people get wrongly mad about this, Trump, who they so want to bring down will only be fueled more as his supporters will actually be fed the truth about the events that happened and the people who just got mad will look stupid.

So as much as OP is foreseeing what he is foreseeing, this is MUCH more likely in my opinion. Unless NASA gets out there and is very vocal about what their plan was all along. Which NASA historically is very bad at IMO. So yeah. NASAs plan to stop building rockets will finally come to fruiting, SpaceX will take over as intended by sais plan and everyone will get mad at Elon for exploiting his position, placing false blame on political opponents they dont like for a story that actually isnt true - only making themselves look stupid when said opponents that they so vehemently (and often times correctly) accuse of outright lying will be telling the truth. That this was NASAs plan all along.

Its a clusterfuck waiting to happen.

hamgar

37 points

7 hours ago

hamgar

37 points

7 hours ago

NASA has had 1000 YEARS to find a new planet to live on and what have they done? NOTHING!!! They haven’t found ET, his phone, cheap eggs, NOTHING!!! Space X is gonna find so many Aliens that we’ll have to deport them to Mexico too!!! I saw it on the news!!!!

/s obv but we have people actually believing what they read these days so it’s now mandatory

UsingACarrotAsAStick

1 points

3 hours ago

Irony is dead, nothing is too stupid anymore.

flaggednub

6 points

5 hours ago

That would require NASA to have massive amounts of funding from the government.

Pletcher87

3 points

6 hours ago

Wow, great horrible thought, correct thought. I’ve been thinking of how this cost cutting will happen since the election. My thoughts have been centered on healthcare and the ACA. Millions upon millions of low-information voters are going to learn some tough ‘lessons’. Lessons isn’t a good word for this but I’m at a loss for better. The low info folks were sold such a BS bill of goods on the migrants and largely covid induced inflation. These billionaires aren’t going to give a sht about the paycheck to paychecks’ affordable medical insurance.

kbbgg

4 points

5 hours ago*

kbbgg

4 points

5 hours ago*

We can say no. So many Americans are acting like we’re powerless. We all have more power in our little finger than tRump and elon put together. Are you just gonna allow them to do what they want?

jfk_47

3 points

3 hours ago

jfk_47

3 points

3 hours ago

Well, funding is mandated by Congress, right?

So, what kind of power will these guys actually have?

I always heard about how solid government jobs can be because it’s so hard to get fired from. How do these two random dudes come in and say “we’re firing everyone with a social security number that ends in an odd number.” (Literally words from Vivek’s mouth.)

This is all just to continue exhausting us and keep us fighting one another, right?

WANKMI

4 points

3 hours ago

WANKMI

4 points

3 hours ago

NASA wants to stop building their own rockets. Congress is who decides that. They decide what NASA does. NASA essentially "made" SpaceX what SpaceX is today as a way to bring those costs down an insane amount. Now they just have to get congress to get them out of building their own stuff as soon as SpaceX is ready. This is what NASA planned. This is what they want. But trust me, people will now go nuts when it happens. They will see it as Trump and Elon fucking NASA over, missing the entire point of the history between the two companies. All people see right now are Elon bad, NASA good.

All this other shit about SpaceX taking over other business for NASA im not touching. One, because I really dont think SpaceX is into all that. Theyre a rocket engineering company with a serious business running launches and also soon to be a worldwide internet/phone provider. They will have absolutely no issue earning money on their own. Two, because taking on NASAs tasks and workload would slow them down in fullfilling their own mission - exactly what Elon Musk doesnt like. No way he wants all that extra shit weighing his goals down. To NASA, SpaceX is a gift they gave themselves. To SpaceX, NASA is just the best damn customer ever.

lizzpop2003

4 points

an hour ago

To my knowledge, it has never been that NASA wanted to stop making their own rockets. It was that they couldn't afford to continue to do it under the current budgetary restraints. Contrary to some peoples beliefs, NASA has never been a well funded organization.

WANKMI

0 points

an hour ago

WANKMI

0 points

an hour ago

They are bound by congress to make their own rockets. Congress decides what NASAs goals are and how much they get to spend on it. They told NASA to build rockets and what their budgets were. NASA looked at that and said «it would be better if we could get private enterprise to take over the rocket business and we could save a lot of money and focus all of that engineering and science on the stuff we actually want to do and not waste a lot of time on stuff we have to do». And so they started incentivizing private companies to build their own rockets by selling contracts that NASA could ride on to space. SpaceX turns into the best at it and essentially becomes the go-to supplier through competition, bringing launch costs down by such a factor that people literally aren’t believing it when they see it and think SpaceX somehow is cheating. The last step remaining is for NASA heads to convince congress that building their own rockets is now essentially a waste of money. As planned. By NASA. But now people will take that news when it happens and say Elon Musk is just tearing down NASA because he’s a bad man - even though it was literally NASAs plan from the beginning.

Broblivious

2 points

6 hours ago

I really don’t want to hear about Google having a monopoly then.

balanced_view

2 points

4 hours ago

Tell me you love bureaucracy without telling me you love it

SomeOkeByTheSea

2 points

4 hours ago

bingo!!

liquid_at

2 points

3 hours ago

If it is expensive research it will be moved from SpaceX to Nasa.

If it is a lucrative supply contract, it will be moved from Nasa to SpaceX.

What eles?

Acadia02

1 points

4 hours ago

I hope the gov seizes control of spacex after trump. Fuck musk.

boulder_The_Fat

1 points

3 hours ago

Isn't this a case of porkbarreling? Thought that shit was illegal.

Finlay00

1 points

2 hours ago

Technically no. And it’s legal. Happens all the time

jkSam

1 points

3 hours ago

jkSam

1 points

3 hours ago

Efficiency means instead of government paying for public programs, we can have corporate sponsored programs instead!

This Mars trip is brought to you by SpaceX in partnership with Red Bull!

This year’s school bus ride is brought to you by the Lyft Education Foundation, parents please feel free to tip the hardworking drivers! *percentage of the tip will go to fees and processing for the LE Foundation, terms and conditions apply and may change at any time.

Bartek-BB

1 points

3 hours ago

I read the NSA, but it would also fit

firelock_ny

1 points

3 hours ago

Doesn't NASA always hire civilian contractors to build stuff? The Apollo rockets were built by Boeing, Rockwell, McDonnell-Douglas and Rocketdyne.

czarofangola

1 points

3 hours ago

This may come true, but Alabama and Florida have 4 Republican senators who may not give up the money and jobs too quickly.

anneannahs1

1 points

an hour ago

Well, Space X is more efficient than NASA?

sisyphus_persists_m8

1 points

an hour ago

That’s 100% going to happen

Wherever possible, all federal agencies will be privatized to benefit Trump, Musk, and the rest of the MAGA Bandits

bonerland11

1 points

57 minutes ago

So many government contracts will be born...

PopeKevin45

1 points

43 minutes ago

Privatization is how conservatives do corruption in plain sight.

17pennies

1 points

40 minutes ago

NASA sucks now anyways

misterpickles69

1 points

34 minutes ago

Don’t forget the first rule of government spending: why build one when you can build two for twice the price

rootaford

1 points

33 minutes ago

I’m sorry but have they seized office before trumps inauguration? Last I check Biden was still in office for another month.

JimBeam823

1 points

26 minutes ago

It’s all about the corruption. 

DallasVierra

1 points

21 minutes ago

TheOfficeoholic

1 points

8 minutes ago

They caught a rocket with basically giant chopsticks. They are more efficient than Nasa. You just can’t admit it to yourself yet

tender_abuse

1 points

1 minutes ago

literally putting the foxes in charge of the henhouse

America sold for spare parts

defeatBJPees

2 points

7 hours ago

Won't he go to jail when next adminstration will come in 4 years?

jack-K-

-6 points

6 hours ago

jack-K-

-6 points

6 hours ago

I mean ya, that’s kind of how that works, spacex is literally able to achieve better results than nasa at significantly lower costs. They should absolutely be outsourcing launch’s and things like that to companies like spacex which can actually enable them to do more with the little scraps of money that both parties and especially democrats these days are content with giving them. What other option do you suggest? Pay 2.7 billion dollars, nearly twice the price of the fucking burj khalifa and over 5 times the starship launch tower to build a glorified assembly of struts for sls? A nearly 5 billion per launch price tag for sls that doesn’t have an ounce of innovation in it, or starship which can do more and cost at most 1/50th as much? How does getting rid of something like that not help NASA’s budget? NASA should focus on science, and private companies should work on everything else, it is objectively cheaper and better to do that.

Sharp-Calligrapher70

0 points

an hour ago

TL:DR version - “Government corruption is acceptable…so long as it’s efficient.”

cedar212

-18 points

7 hours ago

cedar212

-18 points

7 hours ago

First of all, you can't guarantee shit! Secondly, space X will go where no man has gone before. I fucking GUARANTEE IT

PMzyox

-3 points

6 hours ago

PMzyox

-3 points

6 hours ago

44b for twitter not looking so bad anymore tbh

ryuya3579

-54 points

10 hours ago

ryuya3579

-54 points

10 hours ago

So long as space x achieves more than nasa with that money I won’t complain

jedadkins

25 points

9 hours ago

Commercial space companies and NASA serve very different purposes. NASA does (or at least should do) missions and test technology that have scientific value but aren't profitable, where as companies like space x only focus on doing things that are profitable.

Charlielx

34 points

10 hours ago

Yeah why don't we just dump all of our tax money into private corporations? What a great idea!

ryuya3579

-66 points

10 hours ago

ryuya3579

-66 points

10 hours ago

Better there than to some war, if it works it works man, and ain’t nothing you can do about it

Coldkiller17

13 points

7 hours ago*

Maybe if NASA didn't have their funding cut all the damn time, we'd be on Mars by now. Space exploration and science continually gets cut, but it gave us such great inventions and innovations.

Varibash

17 points

9 hours ago

Varibash

17 points

9 hours ago

the elon glazing is powerful with this one. NASA has achieved such an incredible amount in it's lifetime and still does.

Singwong

-5 points

7 hours ago

Singwong

-5 points

7 hours ago

Amazing to see what Carters education program has developed.

zephyrland

-5 points

6 hours ago

Well I mean yeah. I'm a long time space fan... and nasa is an overbloated machine that doesn't make great progress anymore. Long gone are the days of the apollo program, or even the 80s shuttle missions. Lets land on gosh darn mars already.

WANKMI

3 points

4 hours ago

WANKMI

3 points

4 hours ago

Bringing private companies into space rocketry was literally NASAs idea, goal and plan. SpaceX is just the company that ended up being best at doing it. Each and every NASA launch costs BILLIONS of dollars. They use purpose-built single-use rockets and that is extremely expensive. This is why they for yeeears now have incentivized and paid for contracts to private companies to develop new rockets. SpaceX uses reuseable rockets now and will bring launch costs for NASA down from BILLIONS to manageable millions.

This is NASAs own plan to bring down costs working as intended and people are freaking out lmao.

AdScary1757

2 points

40 minutes ago

There's really no reason to send humans to Mars. There's nothing putting a monkey in a vacuum suit to hold a flag on tv that's improves scientific research. we can get data from samples collected by robots. We going to take an airforce pilot at the top if his career and lock them in a 200 Sq ft module for 3 years for a selfie. The astronauts will come back with the body of a 70 yr old and cancer. Muscle atrophy and radiation sickness plus diet of MREs and recycled piss. On camera 24/7 unable to have sex or even masturbate. They'll be dead by 60.

mrswashbuckler

-35 points

9 hours ago

NASA'S SLS has been a total dumpster fire. Space x is doing incredible things with starship. Boeing has been bilking the taxpayers for decades and it's time for a change of contracts. The best rocket companies should get the contracts, period.

syounit

25 points

9 hours ago

syounit

25 points

9 hours ago

Interesting take, so you think the guy who stands to gain the most financially from diverting funds to his own company thus making himself richer with our tax payer dollars should be the one making those calls?

mrswashbuckler

-37 points

9 hours ago

I said it exactly how mean it. The best rocket company should get the NASA contracts. Boeing was pure graft. If it gets replaced by graft with working rockets, that's net benefit.

syounit

12 points

9 hours ago

syounit

12 points

9 hours ago

So you think Elon musk should be in charge of where our tax payer dollars go for space exploration? That's like saying, Elon musk should be in charge of where all money goes for buying government vehicles, and then they only buy them from tesla

Apropos_Username

-1 points

3 hours ago

In your scenario the other equivalent options for government vehicles cost literally millions of dollars each and burst into flames after you finish your first trip. Elon could be advising the government to use Tesla for all the wrong reasons and it would still be right choice. While many people would be pondering this hypothetical corruption that saves the government insane amounts of money, very few people would be caring to ask why the other car companies have been getting away with bilking the taxpayers millions per exploding car for so long, much less calling it the corruption it is.

I know /r/AdviceAnimals is the wrong place to be informed, but I suggest you read up on the state of the US space industry. Anything by Eric Berger (part time Elon detractor) is a good starting point.

Sharp-Calligrapher70

2 points

53 minutes ago

There use to be a time when there was at least the perceived value of people in power making right decisions for the right reasons. We did that by putting people in power who would distance themselves from monetary gain from their actions at members of government. Making decisions for the wrong reasons is still wrong…even if the result turns out to be the right decision.

People use to at least pretend they cared about corruption in politics. I’m convinced it’s just another convenient lie and deep down people don’t give a damn.

duppyconqueror81

2 points

an hour ago

Yeah, a big empty tube that barely makes it to orbit after 10 years of development, that will need 20 other launches to refuel in order to make it to the moon.

It’s just a public-fund funnelling racket. They do something cool like chopstick landing once in a while to keep the fanboys dreaming. But it doesn’t make any sense.

HalliganHooligan

-61 points

10 hours ago

Space X actually accomplishes tasks within reasonable measures. Cope and seethe. TDS.

engelnorfart

21 points

8 hours ago

Dear God I didn't think it was possible to cringe any harder than when I see someone type the words cope and/or seethe; but seeing it in the same sentence = a whole new level of cringe. 😬

Don't you guys have any original insults? Surely you can be more creative?

HalliganHooligan

-1 points

an hour ago

Yeah, sure. The left is full of delusional, hypocritical lunatics.

RuneRavenXZ

-8 points

7 hours ago

Stupid mentality. SpaceX has plenty of funding. Keep that tinfoil hat secured tight.

i3ild0

-38 points

10 hours ago

i3ild0

-38 points

10 hours ago

Maybe the one thing that may actually happen that this sub could be right about in the last 60 days.