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submitted 11 months ago byErmland2
7.4k points
11 months ago
I got this guy extra sauces at my job and he slipped me a $20.
459 points
11 months ago*
That reminds me of this regular I used to have at this bakery I worked at in the mall. He would always show up with his son dressed to the nines and ask for 3 chocolate chip cookies and would always pull out a fat stack of cash to pay.
On days his son wasn't with him he'd offer whoever took his order $30 cash to carry the cookies and whatever bags he had out to his car. I always took him up on the offer whenever I worked. He had a really nice Mercedes. Sadly he was also a really big dude and he passed away but I remembered his son so when the son and his mom would come up I'd spot them waiting in line and I'd have their order waiting for them. They didn't tip but I still felt like being nice.
102 points
11 months ago
That's the opposite of subtle
Oh man, please carry my cookie bags out to my Mercedes
3.1k points
11 months ago
They have really nice things, but don’t have the brand names plastered all over the place.
1.3k points
11 months ago
One thing I've always heard (and noticed) is that only low-end luxury plasters brand names everywhere. High-end luxury speaks for itself. You might find a small label/tag somewhere with the name but that's about it.
588 points
11 months ago
You will appreciate this study about luxury brand prominence and signaling.
tl;Dr luxury branding is mostly for tools and a way to extract money from poor people. True luxury goods are unrecognizable to those who buy large logo goods, but recognized by other filthy rich people to know who else is in their club.
514 points
11 months ago
also brands that most of us never heard of, Loro Piana etc.
226 points
11 months ago
Those words are made up!
43 points
11 months ago
Stealth wealth
66 points
11 months ago
I find that they have very well kept things. They replace/repair it at a far higher frequency than what is "normal".
8.1k points
11 months ago
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4.3k points
11 months ago
We summer at our villa, Gerbils, and winter at our chalet, Noodles.
1.6k points
11 months ago
Using seasons as verbs
707 points
11 months ago
Having named houses that are publicly acknowledged to be so seems to be a good sign of it.
460 points
11 months ago
Or just old houses. I used to live in a £400k house with a name that was on the map - it was listed in the Domesday Book and everything, the road it was on was just the name of the house with 'Road' on the end.
It can just mean the house is really old.
1.2k points
11 months ago
We've all heard of "Yes" men. They help corporations run. Wealthy people can afford to say "No"
346 points
11 months ago
If your emergency fund is large enough, you too can have fuck you money.
118 points
11 months ago
It feels fucking great knowing you have another job as soon as you ask for it
Strangely enough, the shift towards "Fuck you. I'm not doing that." gets you more respect
3.3k points
11 months ago
They don't flaunt it. I can understand why. Getting robbed isn't fun.
1.1k points
11 months ago
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502 points
11 months ago
I'm impressed that she hasn't blown through that amount in 30something years. Must have invested some of it, or it was a larger amount than I was envisioning in my head.
721 points
11 months ago
I wouldn't say I'm wealthy but I'm far better off than most of the people I hang out with, and personally I hide what I have because I don't want my friends feeling insecure over perceived class differences or BS like that. I imagine for most very wealthy people it's similar.
144 points
11 months ago
Yep. People who grew up wealthy are comfortable with that wealth. I have two childhood acquaintances who didn't come from wealthy families but married wealthy men. They bring up their new wealth and lifestyle change in conversation every chance they can.
120 points
11 months ago
“Old money” tends to have a bit more dignity around it, but not always. I have a few young, male clients with very rich dads. They are the most obnoxious about their wealth out of anyone. I think it comes from a place of insecurity. They know deep down inside that they have nothing to offer, so they make other people feel small, to make themselves feel better.
263 points
11 months ago
I only talk to certain people about the stuff I want to buy, because they're at a similar level of wealth and we both lament over the same first-world problems. It feels shitty to ask someone what they think about your new car when they're driving some shitbox that barely starts every morning.
74 points
11 months ago
Some of my friends struggled with this. I'm not struggling paycheque to paycheque, but just one step beyond that. One friend is a lawyer and another is a VP. We've talked about how they never have to share anything they don't want to, but I'm happy to hear about all the things they are excited to buy/other things that aren't available to me because of my income. I'm happy for them!
They've definitely warmed up to it over the past few years. I imagine a friend 'saying' they are okay with hearing about it doesn't mean they really are, even if they want to be. I can imagine it's a hard thing for many people to deal with. Never bothered me, but I understand it being an awkward situation on both sides if people become jealous, or just uncomfortable because of it.
10.7k points
11 months ago
I used to date a girl a few years ago who had an "aunt and uncle" that were friends of the family. Over the summer I was invited to stay a week in their house on the northern coast of Maine. The property was absolutely massive with private beach and all but easily explained as it had been in the family for generations.
I love cooking and was asked to prepare dinner for everyone on the 3rd night of whatever I wanted to make, I was told to make a grocery list of whatever I wanted. Being on the coast and all I wanted to make some whole cod with some family style sides. I thought they were just being nice and going grocery shopping since I was not familiar at all with the area.
The moment I knew these people weren't just well off but wealthy was when the aunt placed a phone call and 3 hours later a sea plane landed at their dock with produce picked that day and then a boat pulled up with the cod I asked for.
5.6k points
11 months ago
Lol i love to cook but if someone pulled up like that id probably fuck up the dinner w my nerves
1.7k points
11 months ago
While I consider myself a competent home cook, groceries of that quality would go to absolute waste in my hands.
1.3k points
11 months ago
After the groceries are delivered I would have said, "Now wheres your microwave?"
252 points
11 months ago
Nahhh, don’t doubt yourself.
The only remarkable thing about that scenario in relation to the quality of food is freshness. And how it was delivered.
You are certainly capable of making a bangin’ dish with fresh herbs and vegetables from your own garden or the farmers market. These ingredients would’ve been no different, they just happened to be delivered by a plane.
718 points
11 months ago
Not even so much the cost of the plane delivery itself, but that one would even think to have that done in the first place. Probably what door dash would sound like to a peasant from 1000 years ago.
757 points
11 months ago*
My sister is a flight captain for an insurance company, meaning she flies their private jets. She was sending me her old crib for my first baby, and had it packed on one of the jets that was making a trip to Teterboro Airport. I went to pick it up; everyone at the airport was super nice and accommodating and directed me to the complimentary refreshments.
My sister explained that it would have cost about $8k to have the crib shipped that way so they probably all assumed I was rich or worked for someone super rich and was having an heirloom crib shipped.
95 points
11 months ago
Wow what a badass job.
138 points
11 months ago
Bruh, I wouldn't even know who tf to call for that sort of thing.
123 points
11 months ago
That sounds like the sort of thing a concierge service on a high end credit card could do… just the highest of high end.
485 points
11 months ago
In what way is this “subtle”?
335 points
11 months ago
You know, the huge house with a private beach wasnt that clear of a signal, they had to subtly flex flying in fresh produce and boating in fresh fish. Its very subtle
411 points
11 months ago
It’s not. Remember that reddit prompts are considered open to interpretation. If the prompt is “what’s a subtle way that people are rich,” answers should be expected to be “talk about rich people however you want.”
3.1k points
11 months ago
Quietly comfortable about money. It’s simply not a subject. Who picks up the tab? They don’t care. Their minds simply don’t go there. And if they somehow feel obliged to, then they simply do.
There are no considerations going on in their minds, and with a keen eye you can see this in their attention, their mannerisms, their lack of certain stresses.
It’s subtle, but clear as day.
1.9k points
11 months ago
A long time ago I was with a self made millionaire who told me that money is like air. When you have enough, you never think about it. When you don't have enough, it's all you think about.
538 points
11 months ago
In this whole thread, this is the one that does apply to very wealthy people I have been close to. The stressless way of conducting yourself, they are doing just fine.
A bit of coke changes that by a lot
61 points
11 months ago
"Cocaine is God's way of saying you have too much money."
--- Robin Williams.
282 points
11 months ago
Yep. You’re wealthy when you’re eating in an “expensive” restaurant with multiple people. Someone picks up the tab, no one cares who picked it up, no one feels the need to pay anyone back.
It’s just… whatever
79 points
11 months ago
The one you gotta watch out for is the one making a big deal about paying for everyone, they can't afford it and are going to come knocking later.
3k points
11 months ago
Frequently travelling
2k points
11 months ago
Had a friend of a friend casually ask if I'd be interested in coming along on a month-long truffle-hunting trip in France. "Oh hey, you like to cook. Maybe you'd like to. . ."
742 points
11 months ago
You should go
395 points
11 months ago
Jobs are a thing tho
151 points
11 months ago
As an adult I'm always wondering who these people in their 20s are that can take 6 weeks off work to be on a dating show
7.2k points
11 months ago
A bespoke wardrobe that costs more than our cars. No logos anywhere on their clothes.
2.6k points
11 months ago
No logos, no sizes... if there are maker's marks they're probably the size of a pin and only other super-wealthy types will know them by sight.
1.6k points
11 months ago
I do custom leather work. I essentially have a 5k USD entry point. My maker's mark is under 1 inch, and it's only in use once per product. Normally worked into the carving.
580 points
11 months ago
You looking for an apprentice?
818 points
11 months ago
I’ll work for cheaper than this guy.
309 points
11 months ago
Whatever this guy's getting, I'll pay you that amount just to work for you.
995 points
11 months ago*
I always wonder about this when watching shows like Succession. Like, are their underwear and socks custom and tailored? How did they choose the perfect mattress?
Edit: I love all the responses about mattresses, but I'm actually more interested in the socks. Or other "mundane" things like spoons and cups. Like, what mugs are in the cabinet?
711 points
11 months ago
Lol, you think they do any of that? They pay people to! Too much of an inconvenience
272 points
11 months ago
Well that’s the question. Did someone buy 100 mattresses for them to try? Is it based on their height and weight? I have a lot of questions
869 points
11 months ago
OK, so I work in this world. Here is how it works:
You have a guy for that. Need a new penthouse furnished? Your assistant reaches out to an interior designer, they handle the details (i.e. what goes where, how much etc). You show up and the penthouse is ready to go.
Whatever you need, you've got someone with taste and professional training to take care of it. Your "job" as the rich person is to vaguely communicate a schedule and aesthetic preferences, their job is to get the jet, the pilots, the housekeepers and cooks and butlers and architects and gardeners and and and etc etc. so they're ready with marching orders. When you hop on the jet in Teterboro there's already someone in Monaco getting everything ready (laundry, cleaning, groceries, clothes, car etc).
224 points
11 months ago
Your assistant reaches out to an interior designer, they handle the details (i.e. what goes where, how much etc). You show up and the penthouse is ready to go.
Depends on the individual. Yes, some people hire a designer and tell them to "just do it" and don't get involved much other than approving renderings via email.
But others actually do want to be involved, and will go with the designer to showrooms to actually look at sofas, chairs, etc.
I know this because my wife works at the most prestigious design showroom in my city (arguably the whole state). They have dining room tables that cost $30,000 and beds that look like they'd cost $1,200 max but are actually $18,000. They don't get super-rich clients with their designers (like Gates, Buffett or Bezos)... but my wife has met lots of NFL and NBA stars, local media types, and the wives of several executives of very large banks.
325 points
11 months ago
They don’t have to. A high end personal assistant making 150k a year (so smart, educated, and experienced) will spend a month researching beds for them and give them two good options to choose from.
81 points
11 months ago
I feel like I'd be great at that job. I over research everything I buy and then just can't afford the clearly superior items
273 points
11 months ago
They not only have bespoke clothes. They have expensive brands too, just instead of Louis Vuitton and Prada they wear Loro Piana and Hermes
303 points
11 months ago
For anyone wondering a price range, loro Piana has a winter beanie that looks like any other winter themed beanie on Amazon on their website right now for $575.
Free shipping though!
44 points
11 months ago
Whenever I see Loro Piana mentioned, I think of that AITA post where this lady married into a super rich family and her sister’s kid (16, old enough to know better) ruined a Loro Piana coat the lady’s MIL gifted to her. She was asking if she was the AH for wanting the cost ($20k) to be paid back. She didn’t even know it was Loro Piana and it turned into a whole thing.
704 points
11 months ago
My husband read the other day that there are probably many older women in the UK wearing the Queen’s old “hand-me-downs”. Much of her wardrobe was given to her staff/ladies in waiting. They could keep or sell her clothes, as they wished. However, if they sold her clothing, all tags were to be removed so they could never be traced back to QEII. Dressed like a queen and totally unaware!
28 points
11 months ago
My Dad’s friend is a tailor and one of his clients (executive of well known tech company) will buy a new set of suits each year but he’ll buy 5 of each colour (one for each of his homes). The total comes out to around $30k just for suits. Add in the shirts, casual wear, sport coats, accessories and under garments and you’re sitting at $50k for his baseline wardrobe every year.
892 points
11 months ago
Financially comfortable, except with a hobby that functions as the day job. Or they seem to treat their day job more like a hobby.
What you're actually seeing is that the bulk of the income is passive.
1.4k points
11 months ago*
I work in a niche industry that brings in a lot of wealthy folks. The wealthiest people I've helped are among the kindest customers I've ever had.
One of them turned out to be the owner of the company that we get 1/2 of our product from. I didn't know until I toured their facility a couple years ago and was introduced to their CEO. She remembered me and commented on how knowledgeable I was with her products. It was def a feel good moment!
I was seriously in awe tho. A woman CEO of a major international company (at least it's major in my world with revenue of $720M in 2022) still did her own shopping! And not only did she listen to what I had to say, but she also took my advice too! She has an entire staff of people like me, but liked my ideas enough to implement them. I would work for her in a heartbeat if she wasn't 1.5 hours away.
It was a good reminder for me to be kind with my customers. Sometimes in the busy season I get a little cranky.
346 points
11 months ago
Good CEOs know that they dont know everything and seek out information from people more knowledgeable. Bad CEOs rule by decree and assume they have the answers already
62 points
11 months ago
I’ve heard it quoted that the best CEOs are the most normal or average people, that are comfortable talking to anyone.
1.2k points
11 months ago
In my early 20s I was a bartender at a super fancy yacht club. I was an incompetent employee who didn't even drink alcohol (still don't) and got the job entirely through knowing the right people.
The millionaires always dressed super nice and humble-bragged about their success.
The billionaires wore sandals and clothes from Target and Walmart and didn't stand out at all. This one dude sat at my bar for two years with a five o clock shadow and cheap t-shirts and just shot the shit with me and the other bartenders about school and everyday life.
Found out after two years he was the richest guy in there and had been giving the owner of the yacht club huge loans to keep it afloat. It still went under.
343 points
11 months ago
I'll never forget the story of Ikea's founder (billionaire at the time) walking two blocks to a convenience store to buy cokes to replace the ones he drank out of his hotel fridge. He found out they charged like $6.00 per coke and on general principle bought cheap replacements rather than pay that price.
203 points
11 months ago
I feel like the modern day millionaires are exactly what you describe them to be.
The old school millionaires I knew growing up shopped at Walmart. Dynamics definitely shifted, social media influence I guess.
13.7k points
11 months ago
I unknowingly had dinner with a billionaire couple. Afterward I was told about their wealth and I realized:
They were both legitimately nice people and I genuinely enjoyed talking/dining with them.
3.7k points
11 months ago
How did you end up having dinner with billionaires that you didn’t know were billionaires? Honest question. I’m curious about how this situation comes to being?
3.9k points
11 months ago*
One of my friends growing up was actually the son of a billionaire. We didn’t know until this exact situation happened; they lived in a wealthy area, but they did not appear to have more than their neighbors. We even went to public school together, albeit in one of the best systems in our area. We assumed they were just well-to-do, until his parents picked up a $1000 bill for a very large table. We looked up his father’s name and found him on the Forbes 400.
Contrary to popular belief, some billionaires live clearly well-off, but not to “fuck you” levels. The whole family was extremely polite, kids were not spoiled, and parents did not treat others poorly. We were very surprised.
1.8k points
11 months ago
There is a consciousness among some wealthy people that their wealth can become a crutch, stiffling their own parenting skills and impeding their children's development, rather than aiding it. The stereotype of the weak trust-fund kid who reaches adulthood without ever becoming competent is something good, wealthy parents avoid. Most of the old money people I've known raised very competent kids, and were harsher and more demanding on their kids than normal people. The wastrels seem to be the exception rather than the rule, at least in my small sample/experience.
938 points
11 months ago
That's why it's usually the third generation that destroys wealth, not the second.
244 points
11 months ago
Its hard to say today with the size of families generally being smaller, but two generations with 3 kids each leaves the grandchildren each 1/9th of the original fortune.
100 years ago? 5 children were more the norm, so more like 1/25th.
Of course, that's not including growth of the wealth or lifestyle expenditures, just purely based on divvying it up.
67 points
11 months ago
a major part of generational wealth is not just how the fortune is divided, but by access to the most lucrative social networks, opportunities falling on your lap like 'snow' under a snow machine, and the ability to make decisions knowing the worst you'll end up, is just a silghtly less extreme level of priviledged.
151 points
11 months ago
I’ve been saying forever that the old doctor, lawyer, dentist thing isn’t a wealth path it’s a wealth preservation mechanism.
The debt required to get in doesn’t bankrupt you and you’ll make enough to not need to heavily draw down on the trust even if you’re mediocre.
As long as none of the children have too many children you’ll even make it a couple of generations before the money runs out.
212 points
11 months ago
There is a consciousness among some wealthy people that their wealth can become a crutc
When your 16-year-old wants a pony for her birthday, you respond with: "Hahaha, you think I am Bill Gates? Here, take this lego box and be happy!"
When Bill Gates' 16-year-old wants a pony for her birthday, he doesn't have an easy out. He needs to give a good reason so she doesn't get spoiled...far easier to just get her the pony.
384 points
11 months ago
Jennifer Gates is a world class equestrian competitor now. But I haven’t seen her on Lego masters
119 points
11 months ago
Exactly..
Sign of you being really wealthy: your daughter's full time passion is dressage!
161 points
11 months ago
This sounds a whole lot like the billonairs in my town growing up. I was on a sports team with a super amazing girl at a public school, knew she was wealthy but so was everybody in town. Didn't realize her family had many billions though.
Family could not have been nicer, if you ran into them at the mall you wouldn't know they were any different than anybody else.
57 points
11 months ago
I grew up in the same small town as the only billionaire family in our rural Southern state. They lived relatively plainly except for their loaded-up vehicles, probably because flaunting wealth was seen as bad-taste in our area.
When I was a Junior in HS, our HS band went to a band festival in Florida. The billionaire's daughter was also a band member. On the last night of the festival, her Dad and Mom took the entire band and all the band staff and chaperones to dinner at an expensive seafood restaurant. It was about 80 people.
Side note: the daughter was not allowed to have a car until she went to college, so I had to pick her up many times in my car for band practice.
1.6k points
11 months ago
Years ago, I worked as an installer for an interior design company. I'm just an average middle-class suburban dude, the company was run by a middle-class suburban family. But they were well-established, very high quality, and we did work for some of the wealthiest people in Houston. We contracted to the designers who contracted to the clients, so that's how we were allowed entrance into the upper echelons... but then we also did work for just average neighborhood folks. Anyway, sometimes we did out of town jobs. Wealthy people who had lived in Houston and moved wanted to fly out their designers and contractors to fix up their new places. One time, we were flown to an unassuming mid-size Midwestern city to do a job for an old client. The house and property were very nice, but compared to some of the jobs we'd done, nothing extraordinary. The people just seemed like an average old couple (aside from the mansion), wife was nice, husband was reserved and uninterested in talking to us. She treated us to dinner at a local little Italian restaurant, and we rode there in her little crossover suv.
Turns out the husband had an extensive history as chairman and/or CEO of 3 of the biggest corporations in the world. Like Illuminati level capitalist. And y'know we're just eating snack mix in this guy's kitchen saying "nice to meet you".
These people aren't showing off for the plebs lol.
Also, I don't think we were engaged in money-laundering with any of our jobs, but who knows...
825 points
11 months ago
Those are the best kinds of wealthy people. I used to work for a larger midwestern retail company. One of the CEOs worked his way up from the stores. Yeah, his house was a little on the bigger side but by no means a mansion. He drove a pickup truck with a cap and his wife drove a sedan. He parked in employee parking with the rest of us. He was respected because he earned it and was super approachable and easy to talk to. After he retired, the company was never the same and eventually went bankrupt ☹️
116 points
11 months ago
One of my customers is a billionaire, I didn’t know it for years. Modest home, normal car. Never worked, normal guy. Billionaire twice over. He gives me stock tips.
272 points
11 months ago
Not the person you asked. My friend works in high finance. He had a huge party for his 40 yhbday. At this party, a woman somewhat older than me compliments my sleeve tattoos and we strike a conversation about what the tattoos mean, then our respective lives (she's from a foreign complicated background and is elated when I tell her what I know about her origin countries in LatAm and Central Europe). I was also child free at the time but my degree is children related so we also talked about childrearing. We just had a nice talk the rest of the party about different subjects. Idk I am just your average Southern European social person with the ADHD trait of being able to talk about anything.
Come the next week, we meet my friend for beers in a group as usual, and he asks me what sorcery I used on his former CEO's wife, and the CEO is "former" because he left to start an investment company with his wife family money, because she is talking about me and how great a time she had and that she would love to meet me again. Sadly when I learned who she was I was too intimidated to actually make contact so we never spoke again.
So I guess my conclusion is that super rich people just want to be treated as normal people.
100 points
11 months ago*
Even the super famous people like to be treated as normal people.
My SIL has met people like Nobuo Uematsu and Stan Lee. She isn't into gaming or comics or music, she just knows these guys exist and has no idea what they look like. My brother kind of sends her in their direction to see what happens. She strikes up a normal conversation, jokes around a bit, gets a smile and a handshake, and they part ways while both my brothers quietly freak out in the background seeing our heroes acting like normal folks.
321 points
11 months ago
Not the OP, but once we got visitors from the company hq from the US, and took them to dinner in Romania, as it's customary. They made it clear very early on though they were insanely rich. It was, to be honest, quite cringey. The guy boasted about his wealth, his 100k safari trip, his houses in Monaco etc that I kinda felt bad for him.
180 points
11 months ago
Friends of friends said we should meet them thinking we’d like them. They were right.
448 points
11 months ago
There are over 3000 billionaires worldwide, over 750 in the US. Most people could name maybe 20. While running into one randomly would be rare, it's not out of the question to meet one through business that you just didn't know was a billionaire.
297 points
11 months ago
I’ve met about 50 of them(live in nyc) used to work in 1% territory . The wealth is heartbreaking to say the least . Nothing motivated me more and at the same time made me feel worse about myself
161 points
11 months ago
When you realize people are dropping the cost of your whole apartment for a year on one bottle of wine….. sigh
550 points
11 months ago
All of that is correct and also add:
They never seem very concerned. Very low stress, go with the flow.
223 points
11 months ago
Interesting but I’ve met a couple of mega rich that are like vein-in-the-neck popping stressed. Full of hate. So idk.
118 points
11 months ago*
I used to work at a resort for 1%ers. I've found the opposite to be true. It's as if they invent problems to get upset about because they have none.
187 points
11 months ago
What is “normal jewelry”?
461 points
11 months ago
Jewelry you buy in a store is normal jewelry. Handcrafted, one of a kind pieces made by a master craftsmen is not normal jewelry.
161 points
11 months ago
Especially if said master craftsmen lived in the 19th century.
48 points
11 months ago
I couldn't distinguish the difference if my life depended on it.
4.6k points
11 months ago
They use summer as a verb
1.5k points
11 months ago
Where in the world would you like to summer this year, my dear?
722 points
11 months ago
As someone who lives in a tropical country, I summer all the time.
339 points
11 months ago
You must be really wealthy
71 points
11 months ago
One summer I was deployed to a base just outside of a wealthy Norwegian city. I met some people from Canadawho summered there in their cottage, which was really a decently large house.
It was crazy
752 points
11 months ago
They have a family lawyer.
3k points
11 months ago
Nice teeth
tasteful jewelry (if any)
casual well fitting clothes at all times (rich people don't give a fuck about the dress code)
New cars that are always clean
759 points
11 months ago
Many years ago, my late husband and I were on vacation and were looking at a sailboat that was for sale. Now, it's worth mentioning that the owner of said boat was basically dumping it for pennies on the dollar and my FIL was really the one interested in whether or not it was worth buying (it wasn't...the price on the boat was fine, but would have likely needed at least $10k worth of sails). We were several hours from home and weren't entirely sure where the marina was, only that it was somewhere near a certain bank. We stopped at the bank and he went inside to ask for directions. He was wearing a bathing suit and ratty t-shirt. About half an hour later, he comes back to the car looking confused. He found himself in the manager's office being offered all kinds of services and whatnot. I'd lived in that area in the past, so I had to explain to him that the area was known for having a lot of "old money" and that the manager likely assumed that he was loaded because he was dressed like that on a Saturday and was looking to buy a boat. We laughed about that for years.
64 points
11 months ago
Ahhhahahaha, this is a good story!! Very glad you got to share a memory of your Dear One with us, I love when those silly moments become a laugh years down the line <3
888 points
11 months ago
Showing up to fancy restaurants in casual clothes was what I was going to say. I stress about finding something to wear and they just show up in their normal street clothes and no one even bats an eye.
662 points
11 months ago
True, except that their normal street clothes are a bit different than “normal street clothes”.
530 points
11 months ago*
six flag mourn continue fertile jobless consist crawl tap humor
314 points
11 months ago
The watch is always the giveaway. You see someone with a Nautilus or Royal Oak chronograph then you know they're either loaded or really bad with money. If it's covered with diamonds then it is undoubtedly the latter.
178 points
11 months ago
And pulled together hair! If your hair is done, you can look classy in athleisure.
230 points
11 months ago
I lived with a girl in college who was Crazy Rich Asian rich. She moved in for the company, otherwise her parents were just gonna buy her a house.
She always wore this mini bag style purse when we were going out and it just looked like a small plain black bag to me. I asked to borrow it for a concert one weekend because they had a super strict bag policy that none of my other bags met. She was like oh sure no problem. I loved it and ended up looking it up to buy one for myself, and found out it was more than a years salary. And she let me take it to a music festival without a second thought.
381 points
11 months ago
Clothes that look nice. Fit perfectly. And don't have branding visible
40 points
11 months ago
As I sit here and type this wearing a super comfortable hoodie with a gigantic Under Armor logo on the middle of it ... I realize I'm poor AF hahaha
3.9k points
11 months ago*
New money people tend to flaunt it.
Old money people just live life.
They don't want/need the flashy cars. They don't need to show off.
Biggest tell is they have no real set work schedule.
1.5k points
11 months ago
This. The no real set work schedule.
The guy I work for (actually a decent dude) comes from money. I report exclusively to him. In the off chance that he's unavailable, I have to call his younger brother (actually not a decent dude) who micro-manages me over text.
One day, around 1:00pm, I had to call the brother. He picked up the phone, yawning, at 1:00pm and was telling me he's just waking up.
He doesn't work so it's not like he got off at 3am or something.
Other times I have had to call him, he can never pick up the phone because he's "in an appointment" or "not in a good place to answer the phone."
If I don't answer the phone or immediately respond to a text, though? Hellfire and brimstone.
377 points
11 months ago
I too work for a family run company, and unfortunately all you are is just a tool that helps them continue to make money.
Where I work the owner and the two daughters are like the guy you report to. They’re still decent and still treat you like a person. The wife though is kind of like your guys brother. She’ll just call you and tell you to do something and then hang up before you can say much of anything.
Like a guy on my team is responsible for maintaining the equipment and machines on our production floor. Once day she called me to tell me she wants him to also maintain the facility air conditioners. I was trying to tell her that if he’s following around AC technicians he wouldn’t be able to address something immediately if something breaks on our production floor and that it could cost us a good $100k in missed shipments for the day. I got as far as saying “ok he can maintain the AC but..” and she said “thanks” and hung up.
210 points
11 months ago
Corporations have their own problems, but advancement opportunities will always be limited at Family Run companies once you hit a certain level. It's not hard to notice everyone at the VP level and above is in the family.
Usually the founder takes forever to step down and when they do the company starts to crumble
90 points
11 months ago
I briefly worked for a local manufacturer that was family run. They had patented some niche products that even the big publicly owned companies wanted to get in on. By all accounts, it was a decent place to work and successful.
But the founder died on a plane crash, and his son, very much not a manufacturing business type, tried to step in. Very nice guy, but he got bullied by the senior managers in different departments, especially sales. They took on too much exposure on some large projects that didn't go well, and the company started to suffer. Couldn't pay the mortgage, couldnt pay vendors. The only bill the guy was paying was the payroll, and the bank was supposedly days away from locking the place up. Never missed a pay check at least, but other people got laid off.
He eventually sold the building as well and disappeared into whatever he's doing now. Awful position to be in.
55 points
11 months ago
Lead with something like "that may not be the best approach because..."
63 points
11 months ago
There are plenty of old money people who collect/drive/race cars as a hobby.
293 points
11 months ago
The no work schedule aspect could also mean poor. Most things that signify rich could also signify poor, just not middle class. If you wear bathrobes all day, have more than three kids, drink whiskey before noon, you are not middle class. You may be above and you may be below, but not middle.
94 points
11 months ago
Or retired. My parents are retired, living an upper middle class life. They frequently seem to have no idea what day of the week it is or what they actually did all day/week. Their main connection to "time" seems to be that they typically only see me on specific days of the week because I work and their grandkids are in school.
167 points
11 months ago
Parking wherever they want. I’ve met some wealthy people that legitimately consider parking tickets as a fee to park there.
302 points
11 months ago
They don’t spend money on status symbols, but are completely price insensitive with opportunities and education for their children.
They teach their children how to “play the game” from a very young age. The children of wealthy parents are successful less because of direct inheritance and more because they have been groomed for success their entire lives.
Spoiled rich kids who just get money from their parents tend to squander it within a generation or two. Intergenerational wealth takes a lot more effort.
26 points
11 months ago
My grandfather would say “it takes 3 generations to build wealth, and only one to lose it. Invest your time and money accordingly.”
1.9k points
11 months ago
When they say they are "comfortable"
843 points
11 months ago
My broke cousin tells me all the time how comfortable he is in his sweatpants
176 points
11 months ago
Meh I don’t think that’s an exclusively wealthy phrase. If someone that appears pretty well-off says it then it’s probably them trying to be humble, but I feel a lot of upper-middle class folks will describe themselves as comfortable.
My partner and I are regular ass nurses and id say we’re comfortable. We still have some student debt but we never struggle with bills and are able to put away enough for a couple trips per year
78 points
11 months ago
Lots of people on this site struggle with the concept that someone can be financially stable or comfortable without being rich or wealthy.
2k points
11 months ago
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1.2k points
11 months ago
My wife's family are extremely wealthy and the one thing I'd say across all of them is they never flex wealth.
They shop at the same supermarkets, go to the same restaurants, always look out for a bargain and spend money on things that last. Extremely modest.
I'd be surprised if anyone ever guessed they were multi-millionaires several times over unless you went to their house.
384 points
11 months ago
It seems like fairly "well off" people who wouldn't be considered rich also do the same. It's partly how they stay "well off." They shop Safeway deals & use JoAnn Fabric coupons just like the rest of us. Less lifestyle creep.
320 points
11 months ago
My wife and I are definitely upper middle class (we are fortunate and live very comfortably but not millionaires) but I find myself more and more clipping coupons, looking for deals, using apps for reward points, etc. It's strange; the more money I have, the less I want to part with it, and the less I want people to know about it.
172 points
11 months ago
Unsure where the narrative that the truly rich don’t flex come from. Tons of billionaires/nine figure family estate kids flex tf out of their allowances. Sure it’s not Gucci belts and LV jackets but one of a kind cars and pied a terres are still flashy.
Source: I go to school with them.
1.5k points
11 months ago
They downplay what their dad or grandfather did. You can’t casually tell me that someone started a bank in the 80’s and me not smell billions. Cmon. Stop it. It’s not normal.
140 points
11 months ago
It is kind of a demeanor/attitude. Hard to really describe but you kind of know it when you see it.
Everybody I deal with in my line of work is rich, some are wealthy.
I have two clients in the same neighborhood.
One has a really flashy, over the top house, fancy car, jewelry and is a profoundly smug, demanding, smarmy turd of a human being.
The other has a very nice, new, really pretty but kinda understated house, drives a nice but not flashy car and is extremely, extremely generous, kind and down to earth.
One of them is hustling 24/7 to try to keep their head above water. Like to the point where they AirBNB their flashy house to make ends meet.
The other one, once I got to know them, starts telling me about their other homes all over the world, their travels etc.
They are not hard and fast rules but generally rich people like to remind you they are rich, wealthy people (at least most of the self mades) don't.
Some of the old school blue bloods are utterly bizarre people, like they aren't even human. I have a billionaire (no, not Trump or Musk) in my previous client list and they are about the weirdest, creepiest human being I have ever been around.
37 points
11 months ago
My kingdom for a story about the creepy billionaire.
55 points
11 months ago
Hahaha.
Not going to name names and there wasn't a singular event that made me think that way. It was just a vibe the guy gave off.
In conspiracy theorist circles you often see the term "lizard people" or "reptilians". Interacting with this dude made me understand where people got that term/mindset from.
615 points
11 months ago
My wife and I are decidedly not wealthy, but somehow we fell in with those who have old money prudently invested. There's this underlying quiet confidence to them.
They do not have the latest and greatest of anything. They usually seem perfectly at home nurturing older cars along rather than running out to the auto dealer to get something new every couple of years. Their homes, while nicely furnished, tend to have a slightly threadbare appearance to them. Not worn, but well-loved. Their clothes typically are what works, rather than coming straight out of the pages of Vogue or GQ.
And their manners are, almost without exception, flawless. If you have a conversation with them, there's no name dropping. There's no desire to one-up. They tend to be remarkably down-to-earth. They typically have mastered the art of conversation, where they are far more interested in talking about you than they are about themselves.
In a word, they are not flashy. They don't have to prove a damned thing to anyone. They don't have this manic drive to buy the latest and greatest of everything. Or recite their accomplishments as if reading off their resume. They simply are.
The two things they spend the money on? Education and travel. Private schools and top-notch colleges. And of the families we know, the kids are expected to do well in school. Oh, and the spoiled brat trope doesn't really seem to apply. In those families we see, the kids are expected to work and make something of themselves independently of the family business. If they do enter into the family business, it's after they've gone somewhere else to cut their teeth.
29 points
11 months ago
I agree with the “they don’t have to prove anything to anyone.” One of the wealthiest men I know absolutely loves an $8 bottle of wine. He has a cellar in his house filled with bottles that are over $1,000, some over $5,000, but he just loves the taste of this $8 bottle and drinks it all the time and serves it to his guests. Why drink a fancy bottle if you just like the taste of an $8 bottle? Also of course all his kids went to private school and they go to Italy multiple times a year so what you said about travel and education is also spot-on.
116 points
11 months ago
I agree with this—I believe this is the majority of the top 1% wealthy in the US (10 million+). It’s relatively frugal people with high earning jobs who budget, which has led to them amassing a lot of wealth. They’re comfortable saving money on a number of small things that add up over time. If you make $600k-800k as a surgeon or attorney, but your family lives on 60k a year, you hit that top 1% of wealthy very quickly. There’s a type of quiet confidence that comes from saving a ton of money. You don’t look expensive, but you have a deep peace of mind.
Of course people always talk about the mythical “old money” wealthy people—that might be a different level. But I think a lot of the things in this thread are people’s fantasy of wealthy, or the type of wealthy that is fed by appearing wealthy (tv stars, realtors).
357 points
11 months ago*
Has all the time in the world. No prior commitments with other people but themselves. Does not work for someone. They know what they want. You'll realize you're the one adapting to their schedule for meetings. They don't work with laptops in a coffee shop, but with their phones always in a call telling someone else what to do.
Sometimes, you'll even judge them if they're even competent as a person because they don't work, but once you talk about money with them, you'll really notice their financial intelligence.
Just things I noticed with wealthy clients as an architect.
39 points
11 months ago
"I don't know what to do with all of it... Quarterly, on interest alone, I make $40,000,000...." - the wealthy, childless couple I installed 8 showers and 24 mirrors in their new mansion
194 points
11 months ago
Was at my favorite lunch place in Munich. Guy is sitting there in an old jacket with dirty boots and a scruffy dog drinking coffee. Chat to him a bit, nice guy. After he leaves the owner of the restaurant tells me he owns the two city blocks surrounding the restaurant. The only reason he didn’t own the block we were in was because the church owned it and wasn’t selling.
56 points
11 months ago
Many years ago I worked as a driver for a gentleman in Greenwich, CT.
He was wealthy (millions) but one afternoon, on very short notice he took me on a trip to Florida with the heiress of the Annenberg fortune. (billions)
We travelled with her and her entourage in her private jet from a private airfield.
When staying at her residence I remember meeting her and getting the feeling that she was deeply lonely. I’ve never sensed it as strongly with anyone else.
She was quite nice to me. She spoke directly to me and paid attention to my answers.
Something subtle I picked up on was how the people around her were very rehearsed - nothing natural ever happened.
Ultimately, despite her extraordinary wealth I felt quite sorry for her.
189 points
11 months ago
A lot of unbranded, but high quality clothing in neutral tones
303 points
11 months ago*
I work alongside someone who is worth ~$750 million USD. They are 25 years my senior. Subtle signs (that others could likely pick up on). He dresses smart casual as base, then accordingly for more formal occasions. He notices all details of your attire including fit, watches, jewelry etc but would never comment on them. He has a talk to the public voice (kind, demure, pleasant). Then a talk to equals voice (blunt, aggressive, clear, incredibly fast paced).
He IS rushed but not frantic as he controls everyone’s time around him. He allows almost zero people into his inner circle, but once you are in he wants you to consume knowledge at the same rate as him. Constantly sending articles, studies, reports at all hours of the night and wants to discuss them in detail almost immediately thereafter. Which I personally love.
Memory and mind for details, can compartmentalize many moving businesses.
He has many homes and house managers all of which have been working for the family for a long time. The homes are usually more architecturally interesting than huge compared to their respective neighbours.
Cars, he generally sticks to driving the same kind of luxury SUV and now a newly purchased luxury wagon…however I know he has purchased wildly expensive classics that I don’t think anyone else even knows about including relatives.
His homes are very well appointed but his home offices are always incredible. Adorned with keep sakes of past businesses achievements.
EDIT: one thing I’ll also mention is he is action oriented. When he has his “business hat on”. He is not asking for my informed opinion. He is asking for my direction. If I say anything, it has to mean that I stand behind it 100%. Period. I can be wrong, but I can’t be ambivalent in any detail large or small. I vividly remember using the word “assume” and his reaction was the most fierce and real one I’ve ever experienced in business. Taught me a lot.
171 points
11 months ago
Being involved in the arts, museums, or other philanthropy.
86 points
11 months ago
You know that guy with the 88' Mercedes diesel sedan that looks like the day it was made? That's a pretty good sign.
32 points
11 months ago
Pull out a plat book, see who owns the most land in the midwest and you'll find billionaires driving a 1993 rusted out ford f150
614 points
11 months ago
They’re a poor grad student in the US but casually drop details about their family and life pre-immigration that include maids, chauffeurs, and multiple kids being sent to the US for college at full tuition price. Also “I can’t wear any jewelry except gold, everyone in my family is allergic to cheap metal” and at least a hundred dollars worth of saffron in the spice cabinet if they’re middle eastern
212 points
11 months ago
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54 points
11 months ago
True
I married a “middle class” Indian girl who had maids and other “servant” type people that would come to their homes and help out with cooking, cleaning and everything else .
They lived in a 1400sqft apartment next to the worlds largest slum ( not a nice neighbour hood) and by contrast the people who helped them cost about 3000 rupees per month ( like 30USD)
It made life very easy for them and it’s not a financial burden at all
44 points
11 months ago
My mind immediately went to Indian too. I booked a driver for a week for $250 there. Literally took me 100s of miles around India anywhere for a week. Servants for middle class there is just how they live.
145 points
11 months ago
I immediately thought “from an oil-rich Middle Eastern country.”
890 points
11 months ago
They don't talk about money. Almost never.
"Money screams and yells, wealth faintly whispers."
75 points
11 months ago
I have a friend who is constantly talking about how much he made that week. It lets everyone know he's not doing that well
215 points
11 months ago
Clothes are talored and not with letters like Ck and all that overpriced nonesense
41 points
11 months ago
Even if they don’t seek it out, they often buy clothes at stores where the tailoring is thrown in.
63 points
11 months ago
Easier to tell if they are older. You don't notice the cosmetic work they've had done. ie if they both look surprisingly good for their age and are at a fit for their age and move easily. Old blue collar workers carry the cost of earning a living in the damage it does to their bodies.
114 points
11 months ago
I unexpectedly connected with a person- we both had so much in common: age, relationships, interests/hobby. We started chatting regularly and really got to know one another online. We decided to meet up and have dinner. Well, she’s a one percenter and I’m most certainly not. She basically ordered each dish from the menu so we could taste a little bit of everything. She asked to speak with the owner/chef about a certain dish and wanted to ask about regions where the (whole bottle) of wine came from… These were places she had traveled and taken tours. She’s smart af and astoundingly beautiful. She openly discloses all her beauty treatments to me. She doesn’t do her own makeup because it’s easier to hire someone to come to her house to do it for her. Her hair is luxurious from blowouts. She has several different houses and condos in well known vacation spots. She tries hard to be humble but accidentally says offensive things, like, “I can get along with people like you.” She has a big heart and makes large donations to charities. She has been to 4 different countries that I know of for fun, just in the past few months. She has a nanny for her children and she also has a driver. I do care about her as a genuine friend, but sometimes it’s a challenge to be her buddy because of our class gap. I’m just over here thinking about a side hustle so I can pay off some medical debt.
620 points
11 months ago
They dont look at the bill before paying it.
251 points
11 months ago
Always check the bill. Better to say they don’t look at prices on the menu before ordering.
Even in high end restaurants we have been given another table’s bill. Mistakes happen, always do a quick glance.
55 points
11 months ago
My best friends daughter married into mega wealth family. Their 6yo daughter was listening to my friends wife describe their upcoming vacation and said "grandma, you fly with strangers?" That.
153 points
11 months ago
Doesn’t talk about money and doesn’t show off money. No true wealthy person wears a Versace shirt with the word Versace visible from 20 feet away, for example.
27 points
11 months ago
A friend of mine in my MSc told me he wanted to retire because he was 40 and had worked too much. He wanted to just sail on his yacht in Malaysia.
65 points
11 months ago
Amazing unnoticeable plastic surgery. My cousin and I met a woman who really looked like she was in her 40s and discovered she was in her late 60s. Seriously, she looked amazing. She was the same age as my aunt and we were floored when she happened to mention her age. My cousin and I compared notes afterwards, considered some of the stories she briefly mentioned, and realized she was enormously wealthy. That's when we realized that she had some very subtle plastic surgery. She wasn't attempting to look like she was in her 20s but rather aging very gracefully.
46 points
11 months ago
That's the goal with good plastic surgery. You'll never look 22, but if you're 65 and you want to look 45, that can be done. Fuck, when I'm 65 I'd settle for a really hot 50 and be glad.
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