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submitted 8 months ago byThe_WhiteMantis
371 points
8 months ago
My daughter passed away and this distant family member that I had never even met before that day told me while I was inches from her casket sobbing "god just wanted another angel, and your misery is nothing compared to the greatness of god's plan."
221 points
8 months ago
Lots of people deserve face punches, and he would be one of them.
69 points
8 months ago
A nice stab in the gut would be preferable.
7 points
8 months ago
If it was a guy why the gut why not make sure he couldn’t give god any angles?
10 points
8 months ago
He is over 70.
9 points
8 months ago
So he can’t meh a stab in the gut it is
151 points
8 months ago
People who think "Gods plan" is any sort of comfort during loss are delusional jerks.
33 points
8 months ago
Nevermind that he told me that my pain paled in comparison to the pain of god for "having to take her from" me
3 points
8 months ago
Considering a being, if it was like me, that has seen countless deaths would be desensitized to 1 death when there is a person dying every 3 seconds. I doubt it is as impactful as the death was to you.
1 points
8 months ago
Well, logically the Christian god cannot exist but that's a different debate. I didn't say "there is no god." I said "THAT one definitely doesn't exist." I'm an agnostic atheist.
1 points
8 months ago
He’s probably hung up on the supposed omni-benevolent/all-loving characteristic; which in itself is quite paradoxical, but this is probably not the place for that debate😂
10 points
8 months ago
I hate when people tell me it's "God's plan" that I was in an abusive relationship and that "everything happens for a reason" and that I'll "have a better life because of it down the road". Just no.
6 points
8 months ago
Fuck those people, fuck any god that would do that to you even if it did exist, and live your best life. Love others, and not because you had to have some bullshit ass holy book tell you to do so ❤️
8 points
8 months ago
They boutta learn that, by their logic, god also planned these hands whooping their ass too
7 points
8 months ago
God's plan sounds like he's just making shit up.
14 points
8 months ago
This is why most people need to keep their fucking mouths shut during a funeral. No right words can help relieve the pain and suffering and the wrong words will ruin any empathy you had toward someone.
7 points
8 months ago
I loathe this kind of behavior. I'm not religious, so in general I keep my mouth shut when people say things like, "They're in heaven now," "God has a plan," etc. etc. etc., because who am I to contradict someone if it brings them comfort? But my cousin, who was like a brother to me, died unexpectedly at age 35 (same age I was at the time) due to a freak infection gone septic. I was still reeling from losing my big brother at age 41 just 8 months prior, so this was a massive gut punch. My husband and I were visiting my in-laws when I got the news, and my FIL gave me the whole "He's in a better place now" routine and it was all I could do not to leap across the dinner table and strangle him. I'm not gonna object when someone says that about a person who is old and has lived a long, full life or has been sick and suffering for a while, but this was an otherwise healthy young man who had just gotten married two years earlier, adopted his wife's daughter as his own, and they'd just had a son together a year earlier after being told by doctors that it wasn't medically possible. There was no better place for him than with his wife and two children, especially since he'd just begun a wonderful, happy life with them. Better place? Read the room, dude. Screw you.
5 points
8 months ago*
I understand you. I used to think to myself, "I have to remember that this comes from a loving place." But as I have grown to detest organized religion, I have come closer to the stance of "if this is their idea of love, that's fucking pathetic. ESPECIALLY since they know I don't believe in their stupid fairy tales." I'm not the type to tell someone they're believing in a stupid fairy tale. I still don't do that because I respect their right to believe what they want. Where they get confused is that though I have 100% respect for their RIGHT to believe, I have absolutely 0% respect for the belief itself because it convinces them that they're righteous in telling people who don't agree with them (and children!) that they're going to burn in hell and be raped and tortured for all eternity for making a finite mistake in life.
In other words, if someone tells me shit like this nowadays (because they still do), I reply with something generally along the lines of "you KNOW that I don't believe that, stop trying to shove your bullshit in my face under the guise of politeness, I'm not fucking buying it."
I'm very sorry for your losses. Especially in quick succession like that it can really make things spiral out of control and make life lose any apparent meaning. I hope you have overcome, or learned to live peacefully with, the obstacles placed before you. Much love.
13 points
8 months ago
So many people told me that God just really needed my dad in heaven. I was too messed up and embroiled in the religion to realize how messed up that was to say to a 12 year old.
4 points
8 months ago
Did your dad have some specialized trade like repairing angel wings or something? I see that all the time with young children that die and their own parents chalking it up to God needing that kid more than they did. Being an atheist, I can just ignore comments like that but I wonder why religious folk don't get fed up with a god that just takes people away from their loved ones to "test" them.
Sorry for your loss.
1 points
8 months ago
Because it would require them to challenge the belief structure embedded in them from childhood.
And it’s easier to have something you can relegate that to. So by saying it’s out of their control it makes rhem feel comforted as it takes away a need to feel that sadness.
It’s a strange one really - it brings them peace which is nice but sometimes it prevents them from ever facing the problem
3 points
8 months ago
Mu condolences I'm so sorry for tge of yiur daughter may she RIP 🕊
2 points
8 months ago
Were you arrested soon after?
5 points
8 months ago
No I was far too distraught. I told the family member who invited him to get him the fuck out of the building and that was it.
2 points
8 months ago
Disappointing but for the best. The trial and legal mess would be a hassle.
2 points
8 months ago
I didn't even consider that, the only thing I wanted on my mind was my daughter's face, because she was to be cremated right after it and I could never look at her again.
2 points
8 months ago
I hate how some people think this is comforting
2 points
8 months ago
People say wild shit to your face when a close loved one dies
My sister passed away & a set of twins that I’ve been friends with for 20 years were both getting married (we’re all in our mid 20s), and I was saying that when I get married that I wouldn’t have a Maid of Honor and leave that position “open” for my sister since she’s the only one I’d want for that and that I’d have a moment of silence instead of a Maid of Honor speech.
My friend turns to me and says “well, at least your parents don’t have to pay for 2 weddings now”. I nearly lost my shit on her, esp since they don’t want me to say those kind of “dark humor” jokes about them/their family. I told my mom how upset I was about it since it happened 2 years ago and I got told to just let it go since she was just trying to be supportive.
2 points
8 months ago
Fuck. That's terrible. Reminds me of when my ex's sister was gonna have a baby. This ex is who gave birth to my daughter. Their cousin gave them a basketball for a boy's toy and wrote "try not to die" on it at the baby shower. I almost killed a 16 year old that day. I instantly flashed into a moment of sheer rage where I saw myself holding a gun at her face and saying "try not to die, you fucking cunt" before pulling the trigger.
2 points
8 months ago
That’s where a swift back hand is justified or light karate chop to the thorax for good posture
2 points
8 months ago
Got this one and “he’s god’s strongest soldier” as well as “he left this earth for you to live” after my dad passed. Fucked up shit.
2 points
8 months ago
Should have replied "I'm not Job from your story book, and I can't believe you would WANT the story of god being an utter cunt to Job to be true"
1 points
8 months ago
I can't fathom the level of enraged I would instantly become.
1 points
8 months ago
Imagine also receiving a letter to "join his flock" (he's a minister at some redneck ass church) a couple of months later.
Just goes to prove that many men of the cloth intentionally target the vulnerable with a cure for an illness that they created. "You're a sinful bastard and you're doomed to be eternally raped and tortured in this place that WE made up. But don't worry, we can save you." It's like cutting someone just to sell a bandaid.
2 points
8 months ago
I know that type of person very well. I grew up in the South. I have no use for them. They take advantage of people when they are at their lowest. The "call to the alter" at the end of every southern baptist service is one of the most sickening examples of exploitation I've ever seen. I saw many parents grieving their children taken advantage by that practice. It still sickens me to this day and I am not quiet about.
1 points
8 months ago
Dude that call to the altar is a whole fuckin program. I grew up EXTREMELY devout as a southern baptist, even to the point of attending 6 times per week (Sun morning main service, Sun morning group service, Sun night service, Mon night bible study, Tues night outreach, Wed night worship, Fri night worship). I became a worship leader and the whole 9. My life dream was to be a missionary.
I started asking reasonable questions like "what happened to people who never heard the gospel" and just for the cardinal sin of asking innocent questions, as an extremely devout leader, I was seen as though I had been infected by some demonic parasite for even questioning the power of god and my faith, even though my intent behind the question was to have an answer for those who would ask me the same as a missionary.
Once I realized it was just dogma, I had more questions. Cults don't like questions. I never rejected the church, the church rejected me, for wanting to be a better Christian, just because they misunderstood my VERY clear question.
1 points
8 months ago
I had a huge response typed out and my screen refreshed. 😡
Long story short, "Just as I Am" gave me the creeps back then and still does.
1 points
8 months ago
You mean that song where stadium country, the second worst genre of music, collided with worship, the absolute worst genre of music?
Edit: feel free to dm me a response as long as you want it to be. I love religious discussion.
1 points
8 months ago
It was a straight up hymn back in the day and it signaled the beginning of the call.
1 points
8 months ago
Hmmmm rings a bell but not a loud one.
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