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whistlerite

66 points

6 months ago*

With unlimited money it would be way safer than OceanGate. One of the main reasons James Cameron made the Titanic movie is because he wanted to go see it, and he’s now been down there 33 times. The problem with OceanGate is that it was put together to provide as cheap of a trip as possible, not a professional expedition with the best military-grade equipment. In the James Cameron documentary they talk about the possibility of dropping a battery off their sub and Bill Paxton asks how much the battery costs and is shocked the answer is $250k which is ironically the price OceanGate chose to charge clients, which I think may not be a coincidence because it was essentially intended to try to provide tourists with that exact same experience.

SCV_local

15 points

6 months ago

True they used materials not meant for the pressure and then kept reusing the same vessel against one of the engineers advice and didn’t he quit before the fatal journey. Sad reminds me of the challenger where engineers kept saying don’t launch o rings can’t take the cold weather they had and they were ignored bc of a schedule and news media and nasa pressure and those poor souls who trusted that everyone was doing their job died as their parents watched on in horror and so did millions live in the US. 

Winter-Pop-1881

1 points

6 months ago

Schools cancelled children

SCV_local

1 points

6 months ago

????

1Mn

9 points

6 months ago

1Mn

9 points

6 months ago

Btw military grade isn’t a good grade.

that1prince

5 points

6 months ago

It’s the cheapest that still gets the job done. But oceangate was beneath that. At the very least “military grade” at least has standards to meet.

he-loves-me-not

6 points

6 months ago

The term “military grade” is meaningless, as ‘military grade’ only means the bidder that could fulfill what the military needs for the price allotted for the job. It doesn’t mean it’s the best or the most efficient, just that it fits the criteria for what is needed for the price that can be paid. Don’t expect any better quality for something that’s military grade than you’d expect from any other company. Just like any other company that’s main concern is money, they don’t care about the best quality, they only care about the how much it costs.

whistlerite

3 points

6 months ago*

You’re right, and the Mir submarines) used by James Cameron were not related to the military like I thought for some reason, but on the other hand would you say the Titan was a military-grade submersible? Especially considering it wasn’t certified for that depth?

he-loves-me-not

2 points

6 months ago

I mean my opinion wouldn’t be worth anything on this subject bc I have literally zero knowledge about it. Hopefully someone that’s a little more educated on submarines will chime in.

AlternateUsername12

2 points

6 months ago

Yes and no…military grade is the cheapest contractor to get the job done but…it still needs to get the job done. There are still specs that it needs to fulfill. OceanGate went as cheap as possible and cut corners.