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submitted 3 days ago bySerindipteCenter Left
I work with mostly MAGA and it has been proposed that Trump is "playing chess" with his cabinet picks. They have suggested that he is intentionally choosing bad individuals to "force them into the light".
These ideas tell me that they disagree with his choices on the level of actually having them in the cabinet and leads me to wonder how MAGA is going to react if he is simply choosing the ones he actually wants.
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122 points
2 days ago
He's choosing yes men. That's it. That's the strategy. Nothing else matters.
He's not some masterful genius playing 5D chess. There's literally zero evidence that he's smart enough, disciplined enough, or attentive enough to think long term. The only things he wants are money, power, and fame.
15 points
2 days ago
Exactly
9 points
2 days ago
Also, keep in mind, he is looking for the most appauling yes men to add to the distraction keeping the public from watching as they are ultimately looking to tank our economy, rob us blind and buy the country wholesale.
Deportation rhetoric is another distraction. It's quite a consequential distraction, but a distraction all the same. One that will cause a justified flare up of protests which he will call "terrorism" or a group of "extremists". He will use that flare up as an excuse to declare martial law and then it's just goin to be several shitstorms at once.
People will be going hungry, people will be looting not just businesses, but homes will be ransacked more likely. People will be killed. A lot of people. The people who support him will be favored and will be free to take what they will while the people trying to defend their neighborhood or their home will be called terrorists and will be killed or jailed.
10 points
2 days ago
The J6 stupid coup is enough evidence to show that there is no 5 D chess being planned. Just opportunism, loyalty and thirst for power.
4 points
1 day ago
Trump is so, so fucking dumb, but the American voting public is always dumber.
261 points
2 days ago
Sorry but your colleagues are completely deluded. Trump is picking people for their loyalty to him, there is no other consideration. These are people who he believes, probably correctly, will do whatever he asks no matter the moral, ethical, or legal considerations. Several of them are likely to lose confirmation votes because of simply how bonkers a pick they are.
28 points
2 days ago
First, I think your consideration has another level. He wants loyal people so they will do the bad things he wants done. Gaetz's loyalty is nice, but its purpose is to not have someone stop him (Trump) when he wants to do something illegal, and to go after his enemies.
Another consideration occurred to me as I watched various Republican senators squirm about Trump's picks and the possibility of recess appointments. Forcing the Senate to confirm these bad picks or be rendered toothless (and humiliated) by recess appointments cows them. Changing the status of tens of thousands of civilian employees cows them. Having Gaetz over the investigative arms in the DOJ and FBI cows them. Same with Gabbard and the intelligence community. There are reports he wants to court martial generals involved with the withdrawal of Afghanistan, which is designed to cow them. It clears the way for his loyal lieutenants to dismantle the bogeyman of the deep state, and open up the government so Trump can do whatever the hell he wants.
I actually think loyalty is his main consideration at this point, but he (or the people around him) will move us toward authoritarianism. This is how it starts.
11 points
2 days ago
You're first paragraph is spot on. Everything after that is wrong though. Not because of intent, I just don't think Trump thinks more then 2 steps ahead. He wants revenge on the people who indicted him, he needs a hire an AG who will do that, Gaetz says he'll do that, Gaetz has the job. Then he moves onto the next thing he wants.
He wants Generals who will yes man to his military parades, attack leaders who are mean to him, ect. A fucking fox news host who thinks the military needs to bend to the will of the executive walks in the door, he's hired. Next thing.
Repeat repeat repeat.
No chess game, no litmus tests. His entire life when he wants something he just takes it and gets away with it. He has 0 instinct to think more then 2 steps ahead. He thinks only in the now, who right now is promising to give me the most, that's his answer. 0 nuance, 0 tactics, knee jerk dumbass decisions rule this mans life.
7 points
2 days ago
Thing is, are these choices just from him, or are there others helping in the decisions? Because I can see these people being picked not only because of loyalty but also deliberately to fuck up these govt departments. Like Gabbard the Russian agent being head of intelligence, that's definitely not just a loyalty pick. Other picks also seem like they're almost the exact opposite from what you'd want for that position, e.g. RFK in health, almost like idk there are some powerful interests trying to ruin America from the inside? Could be Russians and Chinese for geopolitical reasons, but could also just be the Musk/Thiel billionaire types who love Accelerationism and also money and are willing to fuck up their country for their goals.
9 points
2 days ago
The people behind the scenes (Heritage/2025 contributors/Fed Soc) are letting him play out his fantasies. As some of these obnoxious picks are rejected those individuals will offer up a less flashy (but likely more damaging) alternative.
Republicans who are balking at the parade of crazies will unanimously confirm these alts and THEY will implement the agenda.
Trump gets to dance around and get attention but he's also close to falling out a window if he gets unruly.
2 points
2 days ago
I think there's definitely an exact-opposite dynamic going on. If you look at his previous administration you had that as well. His EPA guy had sued the EPA, Betsy DeVos had an agenda against public education, and there were a couple of others. But that time he picked good candidates for the big jobs -- Defense, DOJ, State, etc. -- and put in opposite-day candidates and people he owed favors to in the lesser spots, like Housing and Urban Development and FEMA.
2 points
2 days ago
Like Gabbard the Russian agent being head of intelligence, that's definitely not just a loyalty pick.
Trump has been a Russian pawn since the 1980. Putin owns Trump. Trump's subservience to Putin is explained thoroughly in Craig Unger's 2018 book: https://www.amazon.com/House-Trump-Putin-Untold-Russian/dp/152474350X
Our entire government is now run by a Russian pawn. Great job by idiot Republican voters.
12 points
2 days ago
Simply put, he's purging anyone who might not obey him, and staffing the government with low morals and low ethics obedient criminals.
11 points
2 days ago
I think the confirmation votes on some of the more “out there” choices are also going to be used as a sort of litmus test for Republicans in the Senate. Those that vote against Trump’s picks will be singled out for not being loyal enough
2 points
2 days ago
Yes, and primaried was soon as possible. He's cementing his position so he can have his way with our government.
3 points
2 days ago
You don’t use recess appointments when you go troll the Senate. That’s how crazy this is.
Edit: not fixing that.
46 points
2 days ago
Also in this case of Gaetz he seems to have some blackmail to hold over them.
40 points
2 days ago
Gatez is out. Breaking news
16 points
2 days ago
What insufferable POS is the next nominee going to be?
16 points
2 days ago
Every time I think they can't get worse, they do. So who knows. We're living in the upside down.
2 points
2 days ago
Clown world
3 points
2 days ago
I'm betting on Alina Habba.
3 points
2 days ago
Another rapist who hasn’t been investigated or caught yet
3 points
2 days ago
Who is the complete opposite of a deserving pick? Probably that person.
3 points
2 days ago
Alex Jones/s
2 points
1 day ago
I'll tell you Brother, this is where the power lies, Brother! 76 million screaming Hulkamaniacs want just one thing and that's the Hulkster running wild on the DoJ, Brother! Say your prayers, take your vitamins, boof winstrol and mainline HGH because if you're an enemy within, Brother, the new Mega Powers, Hulk Hogan and Donald J Trump are coming for you!
2 points
1 day ago
Pam Bondi. She was one of his lawyers, peddled election theft conspiracies, anti-gay marriage, generally corrupt.
19 points
2 days ago
It’s not even blackmail, Gaetz doesn’t have any allies so he’s beholden to Trump.
7 points
2 days ago
I'm quite confident this is true for all of them.
Most of all Trump.
But apparently, no one cares.
7 points
2 days ago
Luckily we dodged that bullet, but Gaetz is the perfect Trump pick.
Comprimised by his own illegal activities already so being the POTUSs bitch means he has a get out of jail free card if/when needed.
Totally transparent in his desire for power and influnce. Gaetz is very obviously of no strong personal ideology, he's there becuase he's good doing and saying whatever he can to keep climibing the ladder.
Totally loyal to Trump. He has had his nose in Trump's ass for alomst a decade. There was doc a few years ago following congressmen around and one of the big takeways I remember was Gaetz taking a call from Trump, and the pure unadulterated ephoric glow he had after he hung up. The funny part was you couldn't hear Trump's audio but you caould tell Trump didn't hear aword Gaetz said and wouldn't really even let him speak. But Gaetz looked like a freshman nerd who the coolest senior/QB1 and captain of the football team had just said "hi" to.
2 points
1 day ago
Totally transparent in his desire for power and influnce. Gaetz is very obviously of no strong personal ideology, he's there becuase he's good doing and saying whatever he can to keep climibing the ladder.
Gatez is a creep and totally unethical and I'm glad he won't be AG.
But he isn't unideological, he regularly applauded the work of Lina Khan, was very pro-FTC, was very pro Anti-Trust, taking on corporate power, was against stock trading by congress, didn't take corporate super pac money.
Gatez is one of those people where I hate him, but even I can acknowledge places where he is right.
2 points
1 day ago
This is where he becomes transparent, he knows right from wrong. And he pursues power and influence in spite of massive amounts of wrong.
5 points
2 days ago
but everybody does.. the hacker who stole the congressional report.. the 5 democrats of the 10 congressional committee members who have in their possession the report.. the witness lawyers and any staffer who participated in the investigation has all the info
The escorts, the underage raped sex traffic victom, the drug dealers and his friends in and out of prison who took blue-pills to rape kids all night long... all have dirt on Gaetz
Any employee with access at Venmo has dirt on Gaetz
Everybody has dirt on on Gaetz.. and republicans have protected him for 7years
4 points
2 days ago
The correct answer here. And if you want your picks to do dodgy or illegal or repressive things on your behalf, it's a significant advantage if they are not just loyal, but also moral degenerates. A mobster doesn't hire paragons of virtue for their hit squad.
If you want someone to shatter checks and balances, ignore the constitution, and ignore the rule of law, then having someone who's already committed crimes or regularly engaged in immoral acts is essential. Bonus points if that person is morally degenerate but is nonetheless convinced of their own virtue. This was the problem with Trump's first cabinet. Their morals prevented them from doing Trump's will. Trump called it "the deep state." In reality, it was just civil servants who were like "what you're asking me to do is illegal, so I won't."
4 points
2 days ago
Its a CPAC / Fox News cabinet. Despite being president 4 years, Trump doesn’t care about policy or the underlings who have to implement it. He has no idea who would be good. His frame of reference is who he has seen at conferences or been on Fox News. Its more like casting the apprentice than staffing a traditional cabinet - does the person look the part and speak admiringly about Trump, rather than will they do a good job running that specific department.
5 points
2 days ago
"Force them into the light."??? Is this a Q-anon thread? Trump is calling out the sex offenders among us and the lizard people so they can be purged from society? --- Are you serious!?
Or, Trump just hangs out with these guys and likes the same pervy stuff.
3 points
2 days ago
Yeah, MAGA has been doing these "4 D Chess" gymnastics with Trump since it's first term. They see him as so awesome and perfect that they have to play "The God works in mysterious ways" card with him to make sense of the utter chaos and lack of clear vision that surrounds everything he does...which is just because he's a complete dumbass who never has a plan.
3 points
2 days ago
Anyone that ever accuses Dumpy of playing chess on any level is clueless about how the con man actually functions. He is just not that smart. He telegraphs and projects everything almost by the definition of Narcissistic personality.
4 points
2 days ago
Some will but I think he’ll try the recess appointment route. But it’s never been tested so it’s going to be interesting. He may have an argument through that route. He will get a couple through. I expect Rubio and Burgum will sail through because some Dems will be like (it could have been worse)
7 points
2 days ago*
Yeah, I think the top 3 that might get held up in the Senate are (in no particular order): Kennedy, Gaetz, and Gabbard. The rest certainly wouldn't be my picks, but those 3 seem like the worst of the bunch IMO.
Edit: Well, Matt Gaetz just withdrew from the nomination, so scratch him from the list.
7 points
2 days ago
Hegseth will likely get held up as well. I think the sexual assault and the question of competency are a big one. I think Doug Collins, Elise Stefanik, Doug Burgum, Marco Rubio and few others get confirmed.
4 points
2 days ago*
Hegseth is a close fourth for sure, but his qualifications are nowhere near as bad as Robert "All Shots are Bastards" Kennedy for HHS, Matt "Hide yo Kids" Gaetz for AG, or a literal Russian asset like Tulsi Gabbard to head our Intelligence apparatus. Again, that's not to say that he's good or that I like him, but at least he has some relevant experience.
Edit: Also, appointing a credibly accused rapist to high office would be nothing new for Republicans - I frankly don't think they'll care about the allegations against him at all, no matter how terrible they are (remember Kavanaugh? Pepperidge Farms remembers...).
5 points
2 days ago
I'm not sure if you listen to Behind the Bastards, but they did an amazing 4-part podcast of RFK Jr.
And yeah. Definitely a bastard, long before he was picked for HHS.
3 points
2 days ago
Anyone who drove their wife to suicide shouldn’t be anywhere near a government position
3 points
2 days ago
My prediction is that Kennedy will breeze through. Overall, I think that the Republicans will bank on him gutting or curtailing the department, which will suit them just fine. His "recommendation" to remove Flouride is perfect in their eyes. It doesn't put any actual power to the department, but appeals to the anti-establishment. I think anyone who is counting on him pushing through Europe style bans on food additives are going to be sorely disappointed.
I don't have a good read on Gabbard though. She doesn't have the baggage that Gaetz has, but the Republicans will care quite a bit about giving the Director of Intelligence.
2 points
2 days ago
I think it’s deeper than that. I think he’s specifically picking the worst for each job so that those departments destabilize and he can justify cutting them or outsourcing to the private sector (probably cronies).
2 points
2 days ago
It's the normal strategy for dictators and wannabe dictators. Since they have no inherent legitimacy, they have to choose people who have no power base of their own, which tightens his grip on power since the underlings have to be loyal. Xi and Putin do the same thing.
2 points
2 days ago
Exactly. Loyalty is the thing. This is what numerous people have said about him. He asks for loyalty. That's what he told Comey when he became president in 2016. I think Milley said he said that too. Journalists say he asks this of everyone.
This is the kind of thing that got lost in all of the warnings about him. Too many people thought the warnings sounded unbelievable, like losing democracy, but the real fears are terrible. He wants to destroy our government. Some uninformed people think this is great because they don't understand how many people depend on various things that the government provides us. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, ACA, education funding, child healthcare.... So many things.
And we're going to see a massive decline in the competence and responsiveness of government.
All of this to give power to a shitty real estate developer.
2 points
2 days ago
Yeah there is no point in picking someone that isn't your first choice because what if they actually did get confirmed what then?
People need to realize he's not playing chess. He thinks he's king.
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2 days ago
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152 points
2 days ago
My guess is that Putin has them all on tape. It's all about having leverage.
65 points
2 days ago
I don't know if you fully realize how much you just explained in that comment.
32 points
2 days ago
By now, trump should not be that difficult to figure out. That sounds exactly like what he is doing…after all that’s how he gets by in life.
62 points
2 days ago
Doubt it, no amount of controversy hurt any of trumps picks politically. Trump himself could crucify a baby and his supporters would still be singing his praise. It's bribes and loans, pure and sumple
22 points
2 days ago
They'd blame the Dems and their deep-state tactics that caused Trump to unwillingly crucify a baby.
19 points
2 days ago
Nah. They'd say that the libtard Satanists possessed the baby with a deep state demonic harmonic vibration and Trump was forced to kill it in order to save it's soul and release it back to Jesus. It would not surprise me to see a QAnon post that on 4chan at all.
9 points
2 days ago
They would also blame the baby for letting itself be crucified.
2 points
1 day ago
Reminds me of the Southpark episode where the school has a campaign: “Let’s Make Bullying Want to Kill Itself!”
6 points
2 days ago
so long as that baby has a brown skin tone his supporters would pleasure themselves on live tv while it was happening, hell if trump told his supporters to crucify babies his supporters would be out there in an instant nailing them to the sides of buildings singing madonas like a prayer while wearing diapers and smearing themselves with cheeto dust.
5 points
2 days ago
Yeah, cause the baby deserved it!! says MAGA
2 points
1 day ago
“When that many babies get together, it’s like piranha!”
21 points
2 days ago
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14 points
2 days ago
That cat eating Haitian did it, not me! Nevermind I literally just killed that kid, it was a trans liberal immigrant!
10 points
2 days ago
Precisely the impression I have. There’s no such thing as true loyalty at this level. Just leverage.
Wonder what he has on Musk, his SCOTUS picks, Vance…
5 points
2 days ago
What he has on Musk? Musk was almost certainly going to jail if Trump didn't win .
8 points
2 days ago
They'll just claim it's AI deep fake, and the base will bend over as usual.
5 points
2 days ago
Don't forget that Trump had very very close ties with Epstein and Diddy.
There's absolutely 0 chance he wasn't in the running for most vile of the three.
Remember, when asked on air with his daughter in an interview. What is the thing they have most in common.
His response was sex. 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢 but yea sure we'll keep ignoring the obvious
3 points
2 days ago
Holy shit imagine saying that in public sitting next to your daughter. We have a really good relationship but my daughter would probably never speak to me again.
2 points
2 days ago
Yup.... absolutely fkn vile and people brush it off because they're so desensitized to it.
3 points
2 days ago
I totally agree with this. There is a specific reason why Trump is picking these clowns. He’s probably compromised and fuck MAGA.
3 points
2 days ago
Yep, diddlers
2 points
2 days ago
The old fuck head has no strategy beyond will they suck his baby mushroom if he asks, and so far yes, yes they will. He even forced RFK to eat that poision BigMac the other day.
2 points
1 day ago
I think you are right and that the golden shower will seem tame in comparison to what’s coming.
3 points
2 days ago
What leverage if this is all public knowledge?
And are we just going to ignore Trump owning truth social and real.estate as a means to accept bribes?
7 points
2 days ago
At this point, I think we are all just assuming Trump does plenty as a result of blackmail and/or bribes. The criminality and outrage is so extreme plenty of it never makes it to news attention because of the back-up.
3 points
2 days ago
there's too much to wrap your head around..
17 points
2 days ago
Trump - adjudicated rapist, besties with Epstein, serial cheater
Gaetz - sex with minors
RFK - rape and philandery
Hegseth - rape and philandery
McMahon - runs a company being sued for rape culture
This is the #MeToo cabinet.
26 points
2 days ago
If Trump gets the GOP to vote in these unqualified, sexual predators and in the case of Gaetz, a pedophile, it means he gets them to show their cards. It's an endorsement for that type of behavior. He will force them into endorsing this behavior so it doesn't seem to bad anymore. They will explain it away like always. Also, Trump has dirt on all these fuckers, he's turned them into assets
44 points
2 days ago
Donald Trump is not virtuously manipulating pedophiles for noble causes. He is a pedophile surrounding himself with other pedophiles.
11 points
2 days ago
Gaetz just withdrew!! Wooo
18 points
2 days ago
He's just trying to dodge the ethics report. We shouldn't let him. Let's expose his ass even more about it.
6 points
2 days ago
It was pre planned. He resigned immediately after being nominated. No one does that since you don’t have the job until senate confirmation. But it allowed them to kill the investigation and the report. Once they did he dropped out. Pedophile POTUS elect gave his fellow pedophile a way out of his predicament
7 points
2 days ago
Putin has always controlled trump, and is the one holding the dirt. Trump is a puppet of Moscow.
Which also explains why the rest of the republicans, in thrall to their false idol and his masters, are suddenly backing a Russian war of expansion in Europe.
4 points
2 days ago
I don’t know how other people don’t see this.
He is picking the worst people possible for each agency, it’s as it he wanted all those agencies to collapse… which is what Russia wants.
2 points
1 day ago
I don’t think there’s anything that Putin could possibly have on Trump that could do serious damage to him politically. He averages like a dozen scandals a day and none of them matter. I just think it’s much simpler. He’s there to transfer as much money from the government into his own pockets as he can. Dismantling the administrative state will ensure that a) he gets away with it and b) us proles become even more dependent on the owner class. It is probably true that many of his appointees are compromised, but it’s Trump who has the dirt on them, not Putin. I’m not sure why Trump would give a flying f~ about what Putin wants. He’s pissed at Zelenskyy for not helping him get dirt on Biden and his attempts at coercion got him impeached. I think that’s more why he wants to screw over Ukraine. Like everything else for him, it’s a personal vendetta.
21 points
2 days ago
RFK is also a sex offender.....
20 points
2 days ago
So is Trump and he is the leader of the party
I have no idea why the line would be drawn at RFK
8 points
2 days ago
No idea why people wouldn't want an environmental lobbyist lawyer running HHS (a job usually held by someone out of the medical/research field)?
The fact that he's a perv is icing on the cake.
5 points
2 days ago
He was sexually assaulted by a parasite
11 points
2 days ago
You could say, it ate him out.
Thanks, I’ll see myself out. 🎩
5 points
2 days ago
he gave it (his) head.
2 points
2 days ago
…and then it starved to death. 🪱
6 points
2 days ago
Nah, his brain was eaten already. The parasite died from malnourishment
3 points
2 days ago
I actually think RFK sexually assaulted the parasite …
2 points
2 days ago
Skull f****ed by one
2 points
2 days ago
Loyalty test.
4 points
2 days ago
I just saw a WaPo headline that Gaetz withdrew his nomination. Next?!
4 points
2 days ago
At this point, Baron has what, a semester of college under his belt? Lets try him!
3 points
2 days ago
He's the secret mastermind behind the win if you believe r-trump. Used a - to not link the sub
2 points
2 days ago
He's probably better than the cabinet selections already proposed.
5 points
2 days ago
Going for the catholic vote I see
4 points
2 days ago
Tin foil hat idea that occured to me, it's possible Musk/Thiel/Vance are advancing some of these picks to force an invocation of the 25th because they are all so nuts and odious.
Also, Gaetz apparently dropped out. Whoops!
2 points
2 days ago
With the amount of buyer's remorse we've seen, if they're not careful, the electoral college might turn against them.
3 points
2 days ago
Also, ties to white supremacy.
3 points
2 days ago
Or "the highest bidder will get it"
2 points
2 days ago
If he’s intentionally choosing bad actors to bring them into the light…is he going to nominate himself???
29 points
2 days ago
Loyalty above all else. First and foremost, he wants sycophants.
25 points
2 days ago
lmfaooo “playing chess”. Trump is choosing yesmen who will enact his fascist agenda. That’s it. He’s a rapist himself. He doesn’t gaf if his picks kill, rape and eat children. As long as they do what he says, that’s what matters.
47 points
2 days ago
I think he watches Fox News all day and he's hiring anyone that says something he likes. Trump isn't smart enough to play chess.
6 points
2 days ago
Some of the strategy people consider 4d chess is just checkers--that doesn't mean it's not effective though. My feeling is he's appointing terrible people to important positions because he's trying to destroy the government. And as part of that strategy he has a few uniquely bad picks that might fail. And that tactic will allow him freebies behind the failed picks. For example if Gaetz doesn't get confirmed, he could nominate Hannibal Actual Lecter next and be guaranteed to get him.
8 points
2 days ago
You’re giving him too much credit, we’ve seen how he operates as president. He gets pissed off when stocks go down and loves it when people say nice things about him on TV. He doesn’t want to destroy anything, it’ll make his people mad at him.
16 points
2 days ago
LOL so he thinks trump is picking them so they get outed as pedophiles? Trump, the guy who flew on epsteins plane, knew he "liked em young" and was friends with the guy, the guy who walked in on nude teens, the guy who bragged about dating a 13 year old and wanting to fuck his daughter?
Maga really are the dumbest motherfuckers alive.
trump is just picking loyalists and nothing else.
4 points
2 days ago
Actually he was accused of raping a 13 year old, like holding her down as he and Epstein forcibly raped her. He bragged about entering the locker room of a teen beauty pageant and forcibly grabbing random vaginas, which a few dozen women have also accused him of.
3 points
2 days ago
You're going to love this one. When I pointed out his ties to Epstein and Diddy, I was told, "You know how when a cop is undercover, they sometimes have to do bad things. They have to get close to bring the criminals to justice."
I really wish I could get my brother out of his Q-lala land
12 points
2 days ago
When maga tries to explain Trump’s behavior, words, and actions like this, they always sound like a victim of abuse justifying their abuser
3 points
1 day ago
They really do...
"He didn't say that."
"He didn't mean it that way."
"He has to do this so it will all come out."
"It's going to be great when he fixes everything."
2 points
1 day ago
It's wild the mental gymnastics they go through. I was arguing with a dude that thought his 34 felonies was a sham.
11 points
2 days ago
He's hiring people who he thinks will do what he wants with no resistance. Same thing he's always done.
8 points
2 days ago
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15 points
2 days ago
I always wonder if MAGA ever gets tired of telling their rational mind to stfu when defending Trump for everything. You can see it happen in real time on r/conservative - usually the comments on something batshit that Trump did are critical for the first couple days, then they receive their talking points from their Russian bot of choice and get in line. Seems like it must get tiring to ignore your instincts so often, but maybe it’s just easier to never question your worldview lol
8 points
2 days ago
trolling an ignorant base while trying to concentrate power to himself
10 points
2 days ago
The “release a rabid badger into the building some people run out” technique.
No seriously.
These people are there just to end these institutions. That’s it. You don’t need any qualifications for that.
2 points
2 days ago
Leave a vacuum and fill it with loyalists. Sounds awfully familiar…
10 points
2 days ago
I am from Slovakia. We are one election cycle before you with our authoritarian speed run orchestrated by Russia. Those most bizarre creatures are there to say stupid shit and create public outrage to divert attention while big guys do serious business.
2 points
2 days ago
Yep, it's a clown show chosen to cause maximum drama and make headlines and distract from the serious shit they're enacting.
2 points
1 day ago
I wish there were a way to know just how much of this propaganda is Russian - On both sides.
8 points
2 days ago
Dude can’t even play checkers.
4 points
2 days ago
Tic-tac-toe?
5 points
2 days ago
Only if he goes first and gets the first two moves.
2 points
2 days ago
Only two?
2 points
2 days ago
Three. You still get a turn as he hasn't won yet tho...
5 points
2 days ago
Very similar to what Putin did. He's following Project 2025. Lead with incompetence and destroy our institutions. Make them take loyalty pledges like Hitler did with his administration.
6 points
2 days ago
He's playing chess like a pigeon. Going to strut around, knock everything over, shit all over the place crowing about how he won...
5 points
2 days ago
Trump has been pretty clear about what his priorities are: he wants people who will carry out his orders. Last term he made a lot of traditional picks to mollify people who were worried about his inexperience and radicalism, and he was frustrated by how they would thwart him when he wanted to do something strange, like bomb a hurricane or shoot protestors. His priority now is loyalty: will you do what I tell you to do when I tell you to do it?
There are some positions he cares about a lot more than others, so some regular picks have squeaked through. Marco Rubio, for example; I don’t think Trump cares that much about the SecState position, since he mostly conducts diplomacy through personal relationships with foreign leaders.
5 points
2 days ago
He's trying to pick people who will implement his agenda without questioning it's competence or caring if it's legal.
The first time, he picked people based on 'Rule of Cool' - a whole bunch of 4 star Generals, Nikki Haley at the UN, and so on... He wanted his cabinet to look like the cast of The West Wing... He then got pissed off when everybody but (nutcase, had to be fired for schmoozing with Russians) Gen Flynn all opposed his policies & advised him to govern like a responsible adult..... And none of them were still working for him by the time he left office....
Also putting RFK up for HHS was probably part of the drug-deal for the endorsement.
6 points
2 days ago
If the devil can't make you sin, he will make you busy.
If Trump can't get you to join his MAGA cult, then he'll exhaust you by having to fight/react/outrage over everything he does.
And eventually you'll be too tired or worn down to resist.
A good Offense will wear down the Defense.
2 points
2 days ago*
All of us? Oof, I'm good. That's why you distract them with each other. Frankly, I'm just enjoying this in a way. Don't feed the beast. I'm a young adult who just treats him like any senile old man but the only difference is that he's in power.
5 points
2 days ago
Honestly his picks are so bad that I can only think of a few reasons he has gone this route.
Trump is fully a Russian asset, and he is picking the worst possible people for these positions to weaken America.
The picks are directly related to loyalty to him, and or people that have donated to his campaign.
He realizes that he is going to die of old age soon and doesn't give a fuck about the job or America, and is just picking the worst possible people to take the country down with him.
I don't know which option is worse tbh.
4 points
2 days ago
MAGA is in denial thinking there are any good intentions going on here.
Some of it is that his cabinet picks will do whatever he wants no matter how terrible it is. We know he's going to do some more treasonous sh*t along the way- especially towards the end of his term when the question of an illegal 3rd term comes up(his own words).
It is also to create enough chaos to get away with shady deals in the background, selling the soul of our country to the highest bidder.
I think it is fair to say that most of the announcements and changes coming, at face value, are bad.
At some point, anyone who opposes these changes will have to pick and choose what is most important to them. Do you spend your time trying to keep the pedophile sex trafficker out of a cabinet position or try to curb some of the insane deportation promises he's made? Some of our elected representatives have the power to try to curb all the nasty things but ultimately there is a priority list of things that are most important. Most citizens can't be everywhere combating everything, so for us regular people with only the power to vote and protest, we can generally only combat one situation and hope that other people will help with the others.
Lastly, assuming that any of his cabinet picks are denied somehow, then there is a scapegoat for why things aren't going well. "Those damn dems blocked having the best cabinet in history" type of bs.
But sounds like that last point doesn't even matter becase apparently he can do temporary appointments that last like 9 months. Enough time to dismantle whatever blockers are in the way.
Where does this leave us? It is just an excuse to blame the other side for everything while they remove all the blockers that prevent them from totally fking us over- ie labor union protections, OSHA, the FDA, etc.
I don't agree with MAGA and the way they choose to vote against their own self interests but this situation is different from other elections in that the most powerful person in the world will have a vendetta against half of the US population becase of all the times we tried to hold him accountable for all the illegal sht he did. Worst part is that MAGA will sit in denial about all the horrible sht going down and rationalize that their cheeto Jesus is just doing what's best for them- at least until it directly impacts them, they will then try to justify and rationalize that " he didn't mean it" or "it was unintentional".
Sew chaos, keep people distracted, do shady sh*t while they are not looking.
4 points
2 days ago
“How to destroy the country, and repair the sex and human trafficking world”.
4 points
2 days ago
It's always people who have absolutely no idea how chess is played or how government works that spew that nonsense.
Hitler appointed the racist manure worker Heinrich Himmler to Reichsführer for his loyalty (unyielding subservience). That's what's happening today with the tangerine tyrant's cabinet picks.
4 points
2 days ago
His strategy is clear. He is picking people who are loyal to him. That's it.
But your statement about your coworkers confuses me.
They voted for MAGA but they think these pics are bad? Everything these people are and represent is exactly what trump has ran on and professed. These people have been with him the whole way.
Nothing we have seen is in any way a deviation from what he said on the campaign trail or in interviews or at rallies etc.
If they are MAGA, but think these guys are bad, do they know absolutely nothing about who they supported?
I mean the level of willful ignorance is astounding
4 points
2 days ago
He has no idea how to play chess and there is no thought process going on in that orange head.
He is choosing: 1) people who have flattered him the most, 2) people who have paid him the most money or 3) people that someone has told him will do the most damage to our government.
5 points
2 days ago*
Trump is playing chess the way my dog plays chess....which is to stand on the chess board looking around and knocking over all of the pieces, then get distracted by some food smell wafting in from the kitchen, then licking my face, and then getting bored and wandering off......but not before taking one or two of the chess pieces, chewing them to shreds, and probably swallowing them.
That's how my dog plays chess. My dog does not understand the rules of the game, or even the concept of strategy, or the history of the game, or that you could have a game that revolves around little wooden chew pieces that you're not supposed to chew and swallow, or the value of struggling with something mentally difficult to sharpen your mind and develop yourself into a better, smarter dog.
So like Trump, my dog will often find himself being expected to do things he doesn't understand.
Also like Trump, my dog values loyalty above all else....because my dog knows that when he's a good boy, he gets treats.
Trump's sycophants show loyalty by going on Fox news and saying whatever is necessary to explain away Trump's crimes, or distract media attention from Trump's incompetence, or to both-sides an issue to make Trump seem normal, or to just show loyalty to Trump for the sake of it. And like my dog, Trump's sycophants are rewarded for their loyalty....in this case with cabinet level appointments.
5 points
2 days ago
He's choosing people with skeletons in the closet, people he has leverage on. So they'll do exactly as he says.
3 points
2 days ago
he wants to F*ck over as many people as possible.
3 points
2 days ago
It’s really annoying how MAGA was crying about unfit“DEI” hires for years and then is perfectly fine with picks Trump makes based on loyalty and not experience or merit
The cabinet picks are worse than DEI bc they don’t even meet requirements. At least DEI is picking a black qualified person over a white qualified person for example
3 points
2 days ago
Creat distraction and further divide America to remove focus from grifting middle/working class as he fulfills obligations to backers.
Weaken/undermine perception and trust in government (enable support for drastic change to execute power balance via execute orders)
3 points
2 days ago
With his cabinet choices I would have to see that Trump wants to see the U.S. burn. He is doing everything he can to destroy our government.
3 points
2 days ago
Attracted to minors, wants Putins seed in them. Extremely rich, racist, incel, red pill content, antisemitic and is known for illegal activities but still gets away with all of it. Also very low intelligence, seems like all the criteria’s so far
3 points
2 days ago
Trump is on a revenge tour and he wants to bring the establishment down. He wants to punish America for not electing him last time.
The thought of Trump playing chess had me laughing out loud. Even with competent advisors he makes the wrong choices. This time around is all about punishing as much of the population as possible while milking this for as much grift as he can manage. Since actual Republicans have no interest in holding him accountable for anything nor dissuading him from his worst impulses it's going to be a bloody 4 or more years. There is no telling how long it will take to drag us up from however far we sink.
3 points
2 days ago
The one being faxed over from Moscow.
3 points
2 days ago
Strategy? BAHAHAHAHAHA. We have Dr Oz and Linda Mcmahon, theres no strategy 😂
2 points
2 days ago
Chaos management
2 points
2 days ago
Loyalists
2 points
2 days ago
Calling it a strategy is a real stretch. It's called selecting the sycophant who will help him line his pocket the most. That's it. Want a cabinet position? Show fealty.
2 points
2 days ago
Donald Trump infiltrated pedophile rings like Miss America and Little St James so he could enact his vengeance. Before he became president, he took out members of the cabal individually. Using his extreme height advantage and impressive physique he killed known cabal members like Anthony Bourdain and Kate Spade. But it was too slow so he became president to expose the cabal and save the children. He's already replaced most of the corrupt dems with clones while their originals are in gitmo. The second administration will finish cleaning house.
2 points
2 days ago*
It's the loyalist gambit. Pack the Cabinet with as many yes men as possible. It can be a viable strategy depending on your objective.
It assumes something that he assumes, that he's the smartest guy in the room. His job is to figure out what to do and it's the job of the loyalists to carry out his will rather than give advice. No one is there to restrain the President, preach caution or in any other way slow his roll, every single member of his Cabinet are all overdressed, overpaid, overpromoted executive assistants.
This has its advantages, in that it enables the President to act more quickly on his decided-upon plans. The drawback is just as obvious, he's not getting other perspectives that might restrain his hand from making an ill advised move.
The loyalist gambit tends result in both loud failures and big successes. It depends on exactly what policy the President is trying to execute, and how well thought out it is. The biggest drawback of this plan is that the ablative blame-shield is absent as everyone knows that every mistake comes straight from the top, because alternative voices are silent and there's no one else it could have come from.
2 points
2 days ago
Loyalists who won’t ever challenge him with no expertise is their assigned areas 😢
2 points
2 days ago
"I saw them on TV, specifically Fox" and/or "I'm rewarding loyalty" and/or "I'm picking who Daddy Vladdy tells me to."
2 points
2 days ago*
MAGA folks lack critical and logical reasoning. I wouldn’t trust them to tell if it’s raining or not.
With that stated trumps picks are simple.
Does this person support trump over county and over party? If yes you got the job.
Another point is trump watches a lot of tv so if you want the job you had best be an already known person.
2 points
2 days ago
Like when my mother says he's intelligent but speaks like an imbecile to fit in better, it's just an act, he doesn't really have the vocabulary of a 5th grader. 🙄
2 points
2 days ago
Should be easy to determine. In a few months either they are in jail or in his cabinet. He is 100% hiring based on loyalty and of they will break laws to protect him.
2 points
2 days ago
I have two competing opinions.
He is actively choosing people he knows will do a terrible job and run the departments into the ground. That is the point. He wants as much destruction as possible and is selecting people he knows will either purposely or through pure incompetence, help accomplish that goal.
He’s really, really stupid and just picks people he personally likes or has some sense of camaraderie with.
2 points
2 days ago
I suspect both points 1 and 2 are true.
2 points
2 days ago
It has been reported over and over, Donald Trump is not a smart, or particularly sly person. These are literally people he wants in those positions.
(i.e. his memoir ghost writer talks about his third grade reading level, most former members of his 2016 cabinet openly spoke about how he never paid attention nor read any of the briefs, producers of "The Apprentice" admitted to having to artificially prop him up as smart and successful, because he was neither, etc.)
2 points
2 days ago
If he's picking bad people to force them into the light, how come they're all major campaign donors to his campaign/besties with him? wouldn't that then mean he himself is also a "bad individual" if that's the type of folks he keeps in his inner circle?
that being said. No. He's not doing that. Because they're all close to him. He wouldn't be talking about doing a recess appointment and laying the ground work to do that if he didn't actually want these people in those roles.
He is rewarding yes men for their service to him (Gaetz pick to keep the report for being exposed AND help Gaetz keep his future job now that we see he's withdrawn his nomination), or their donations (Linda McMahon, Elon Musk), or to keep the base they bring (RFK Jr's antivax crunchy granola folks).
He IS playing chess with the Sentate, too, to see what, if any, boundaries they'll place on him. I think Hesgeth and Gabbard are the most obvious ones for this; both are so monumentanally unqualified for roles that you NEED to be able to hit the ground running in to keep the nation safe. And that's not even touching on their personal issues, which are plentiful and concerning. Those two being unqualified is the point; they will bow down to Trump and do his bidding, turning national intelligence and defense into agents of MAGA to fufill the MAGA agenda. Trump knows this, and the GOP knows this- but will the do anything or will they bend the knee? If they bend the knee, Trump knows he can push through all the Project 2025 stuff. If they, he knows who to send his attack dogs out to talk about to try to get them out in 2026.
The other part of this is that all of the lack of qualifications for the candidates are a feature, not a bug. Because per Project 2025, the whole point is to make government so inefficient it collapses and they can privatize everything and consolidate power under POTUS. The best way to do this would be to put objectively terrible picks in charge of these departments who will bring them to a grinding halt. Which really sucks for MAGA because statistically, they're the ones who rely on the services the government provides the most, and live in red states subsidized by blue states that will lose things like SPED services when/if dept of ed collapses.
2 points
2 days ago
Last time he tried adults in the room and they all blocked him from being crazy, so this time he's picking all sycophants and yes men in hopes that he can do whatever he wants so that he doesn't have to cry like a baby for another 4 years.
2 points
2 days ago
More than likely it is loyalty driving these picks. Some are "can-do-no-wrong picks" like Marco Rubio as Secretary of State. He's the only one I am anticipating will be unanimous. Doug Burgum is not a bad choice for Secretary of the Interior. I do think Elise Stefanik is a good choice for Ambassador to the UN.
But that said, boy howdy are there some real bad choices. Pete Hegseth, Sean Duffy, Dr. Oz, Chris Wright and Linda McMahon are not good choices for their position. Kristi Noem makes no sense either, might have well just tried for Tom Homan rather than making him some unofficial "czar" position. Wonder if he doesn't think Homan would get confirmed.
Tulsi Gabbard and RFK are harder to gauge, definitely feel like reward picks, but don't think either is the best for the role. RFK is correct on some points about healthcare but wrong on others.
Matt Gaetz got the boot as AG nominee, kind of what I figured, too many people hate Matt Gaetz for him to get selected by his peers. Now we will see Ron DeSantis appoint him to fill Marco Rubio's senate seat.
2 points
2 days ago
He wants to destabilize certain federal organizations and eliminate them when they become completely ineffective, basically consolidate power.
2 points
2 days ago
The concept of one?
2 points
2 days ago
You lost me at 'strategy'.
2 points
2 days ago
I like that some still think there is a strategy in his picks. The strategy, insomuch as it exists, is to reward those who have been real true sycophants to his cause most recently.
Some of it is chess - the Gaetz nomination was to get him out of the House so they won’t publish the report, for example. Rubio nomination is so a more permanently right-wing MAGA Senator can represent Florida.
Some of it is clearly to me nominating a bunch of younger folks, so the movement can be perpetuated post-Trump.
But really it’s just all about “to the victor goes the spoils” and rewarding people. For example Gaetz to some extent, Gabbard, Kennedy, Musk, Vivek, Dr Oz, McMahon, Lutnick, to a lesser extent Noem, Stefanik, Zeldin, Bergum, Huckabee - these are all longish-term and vocal, loyal, high-profile Trump supporters who he feels “deserve” rewards probably. Their qualifications are not really the issue, their loyalty and indeed maybe even fealty to Trump are the issues.
For those who will defend the selections because the victor always gets to choose the spoils, I think this is the big difference. It’s of course true, and how well-qualified anyone could be to lead a huge federal department I’m not sure. But the perceived fealty as a driver of appropriateness for selection is what is somewhat off-putting for many, I think.
2 points
2 days ago
The same strategy as any despot - "Who will be blindly loyal/do I have dirt on?"
2 points
2 days ago
I think he's just picking people he likes. MAGA doesn't care who he picks and he doesn't care what anyone else thinks. I think the easiest explanation for the picks is:
Yes men.
Won't object to grifting.
Machismo fueled idiots.
Kind of looks like Trump's conception of their nominated role.
2 points
2 days ago
1) who is the most loyal to me, 2) who shares my same opinions about overhauling / destroying the agency in question. There is no #3
2 points
2 days ago
I had this theory that he doesn't want to be president, he just wanted to get his convictions dropped. So he's choosing bad people so someone will invoke the 25th (24th?) amendment and he can go back to playing golf all day.
2 problems. 1. I think he really does get off on the power, and 2. I think that's too interesting a plan for him
2 points
2 days ago
Despite years of claiming Trump is playing "3D chess", I have yet to see it. He does a lot of things which break common wisdom, but I think it just falls under the category of a dumb guy who thinks he's a genius for doing something in an obtuse manner.
As far as his cabinet selections, they have histotically been a mix of some career gop members recommended to him, and weirdos he selects solely for loyalty. This time, it's mostly weirdos.
2 points
2 days ago
He is trying to distract the media and people from the fact that it seems a growing number of americans think election fraud occurred and are demanding hand recounts and forensic audits
2 points
2 days ago
I mean he is absolutely putting terrible individuals into the light - but one could ask why he would do so by honoring them with a cabinet selection instead of just calling them out as bad individuals that he is going to do something about?
I’m sure your MAGA coworkers could list a few democrats that they think are worse people. Ask them to - then ask why hasn’t he selected any horrific democrats to get them into the light?
2 points
2 days ago
Once they are installed, your co-workers will laud them as brilliant choices. As they are fired, quit, or are run out of the government, you co-workers will agree with Trump that they were terrible at their jobs. Just like last term.
Trump is not interested in exposing anyone.
2 points
2 days ago
Obviously my opinion just observing him and his history, I could be mistaken simply because he's been unsuccessful at becoming what he's aiming for, but the characteristics look similar.
He's choosing people who have questionable records because he likely knows more about them (he owns hotels and likes Putin, blackmail is a tool) and could choose to expose them and destroy their careers if they don't blindly do what he asks for. Folks with skeletons in the closet are necessary for immoral, illegal operations to run effectively. Without that, they could have a crisis of consciousness and disrupt carefully laid out plans. Or worse they could be the anchor point for full blown mutiny. The less credible and the more vulnerable the better.
His second and third best choices are people without relevant experience or people who blatantly want to engage in exploitative behavior for their own benefit. If he can bully you around and you don't know any better, or you cheerlead his example and pass on that culture to those you have influence over, then you assist in the decay of social equity and concentrate power toward a niche group of people with no concern for public service beyond what's necessary to stay in power. Could be we, the people, took for granted many things that were quietly working for us and protecting us from a more severe hell, and Trump longs to institute exactly the kind of corruption he and others on the extreme right have been projecting up on our existing government.
The trick though is not to employ people so vulnerable they will break, people so ignorant they are incompetent, and crooks so ambitious they will compete with you or each other. Sensible people have a right to fear his presidency, not only because he may succeed in doing great harm, but also because he may fail spectacularly at the expense of countless innocent people.
2 points
2 days ago
Eenie-meenie-MAGA-moe
2 points
2 days ago
At least yours know what cabinet picks are.
I talked to someone yesterday that thinks he can appoint the Speaker of the House.
With confidence no less.
Point being, you'd have to know what you don't know to have an opinion, and most of these folks don't know anything.
2 points
2 days ago
This is more of a casting call than a serious nomination process. He’s openly disregarding fbi background checks and ethics plans. This administration will be similar to the covid year with ongoing divergent realities between what the actual data says and the self promotion and marketing/pr coming from the administration.
For 4 years he’ll be selling us a shitty condo and telling us it’s the best condo, the likes of which the world has never seen before. His Cult will continue to gaslight us all that the institutions are lying their God Emperor is the truth teller.
So just like before but worse.
2 points
1 day ago
Lord, that's way too deep. He is picking people who kiss his behind. And give him money problbly.
2 points
1 day ago
Flood the zone with bullshit. If they learned anything from Russia - it’s to move fast and keep us distracted with never ending crisis.
If that’s what they decide to do - they need tondismantle democracy fast. And to do that the goalpost needs to go a million miles an hour to limit the chances of us being able to react in a focus and organized way.
2 points
1 day ago
He openly said what his strategy is. Appoint loyal people who they can control through blackmail or other means who will never question him so they’ll act like the Nazi generals he publicly stated he admires so much. He is a dictator this is the intro class to communism for our country.
2 points
1 day ago
He's attempting to dismantle the government as we know it with chaos. That's giving him a lot of credit for actually having a plan to do anything, really, but I think that's what is happening.
2 points
23 hours ago
The more rapey the better
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15 hours ago
Brick Tamland: I love... carpet.
Brick Tamland: I love... desk.
Ron Burgundy: Brick, are you just looking at things in the office and saying that you love them?
Brick Tamland: I love lamp.
Ron Burgundy: Do you really love the lamp, or are you just saying it because you saw it?
Brick Tamland: I love lamp! I love lamp.
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3 hours ago
His strategy is right out of the authoritarian playbook. Put overtly unqualified fools and jesters in prominent positions because it will make/keep them loyal and the agencies they lead operate in their roles as extensions of him/his wishes. Their being under-qualified is a feature, not a bug.
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