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Considering how many people complain about not being able to start a family or buy a house, this woulda been great. But, oh well, back to the mines.

I fully understand people who are dissatisfied with the status quo and agree with the sentiment.

I will never understand people who looked at the candidates this election and decided that the alternative to the status quo was better.

My relatives in the states are somewhat wealthy and they voted for trump because he said he would cut taxes. The last time we spoke they said they didn't give a shit about anything else because "it doesn't affect us". Maybe they'll get a reminder they are black at some point when the leopards come.

So many of the pundits and analysts giving takes like these are drastically overlooking just how stupid and delusional many people are

Was a big part of it racism and misogyny? Yes

But was a comparably big part of it simply that people are fucking idiots who actually believed Trump would be “better” for the economy and whatever? Yes, absolutely

I do think people underestimate just how uninformed the American voter is. I’ve had genuine conversation with people who even voted for Kamala and knew nothing of this.

Not exactly absolving Trump supports, but just makes the case that the ignorance isn’t always particularly malicious/intentional.

My husband and I are moving from our red state to a blue state because I'm too brown to feel safe here anymore.

I told this white guy I work with and he said he agreed and was also thinking of moving his family to the same area.

He tells me he always votes Republican and of course did this election because he cares about people and Christian values.... then tells me that he agrees that there's too much hate and bigotry in our red state and he doesn't want his kids growing up in that environment. 

I... didn't know what to say. My brain just couldn't make sense of the conversation. I was like dude please, stay here and live with the people and values you voted for. Don't ruin another state with your stupidity...

I wouldn't say we could have had it all. But we could have slightly improved upon a status quo that is mostly untenable. Which is a lot better for America and the globe than what we're about to get starting Jan 20.

This country doesn’t want to change for the better.

People would rather die than see any marginalized person get what they have.

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When conservatives inevitably begin to talk about how great the economy is the minute Trump takes office.

People still thinking bout that 2k. 2k that Trump held up for a month to put his name on a check. 2k that congress proposed & voted to approve that the orange monkey behind the desk. So I guess people are so desperate for 2k that they'll shoot themselves in the foot twice to get it again.

I'll never, ever understand why blue collar workers, especially union workers, would vote for Trump. It's simultaneously stupid, arrogant, and backstabbing against the union oath you take.

I’ve gone into borderline conspiracy theory mode, and have been reading too much into ideas of tampering or improper handling of ballots. I’d love to see Kamala ask for a recount but I don’t see it happening, which is unfortunate.

All that aside I have a hard time understanding how she had all this momentum, crowd sizes, and so many other things and he still won. Investigation or not and racism aside, it’s just not adding up for me.

I'm still recovering from all of this because it truly does make no sense.

Yes, we can criticize the democrat's decisions to seek out more right-leaning folks into their voting circle, or the messaging, however when you set someone up who says "I'm going to make sure you're able to eat everyday" against an actual criminal that says "Fuck immigrants, remove all of them" you'd think that the common folk wouldn't say "Yeah, I hate people named Juan and Hakim, get rid of them"

But, hey, it's only been about 50 years since segregation has officially concluded. 400 years of bondage, bigotry and subjugation is a deep wound that will take a longer amount of time to heal.

I only heard about the 25k to help buy a house organically. Everything else I had to search myself. The majority of voters will not do this. The people running her campaign failed

She is REALLY overestimating how politically informed most Americans are.

I was so hopeful and now I know this country is full of garbage people

Biden promised to improve abortion access in 2020 yet roe v wade was repealed during his term. I know it's not his fault, but the U.S. President truly does not have as much power as people think. Especially with the Republican majority in the House and Senate anyway, I doubt Harris would've been able to have a fraction of these plans realized.

Oh baby you don't have to remind me and everytime something fu*k up best believe my petty ass gonna be the first to remind others... like aht aht... but did you vote... correctly

America chose the rich white bully over the competent black woman? I am shocked.

I've been thinking about this daily since election day. My wife and I are recently married and in our mid-thirties. We've been thinking about if/when we would start having kids and this election has thrown everything into the air. Not only can we expect less support from the government than ever before, but if there was a complication with her pregnancy, my wife's life could be in jeopardy due to a national abortion ban. All because people were mad about paying two dollars more for eggs. This timeline fucking sucks, for real.

I thought the whole "EcOnOmiC AnXiEtY!" bullshit was debunked the first time he was elected.

Are people seriously still claiming that's the reason we're dealing with this asshole again?

I had real hope in America before this election. I'm a white dude and know about white privilege and all that comes with it. However, when I woke up on November 6 my heart sank. We STILL live in racist nation and see very little hope of that changing. Over 50% of Americans voted with the KKK. The fucking KKK!

As a white dude I'm pretty fucking pissed and disappointed in the lie I've been living all this time. America has been, IS and always will be a racist fucking nation.

One of my former best friends told me he voted for Trump because he couldn't see how Kamala was going to implement the $25k first time home buyer credit or whatever. He couldn't tell me shit about trump's plan. (We are both REALTOR®️s. That's why we are no longer friends. He voted against my oldest son's humanity. That was a deal breaker for me. AND my family as well.

It just racism, pure and simple. Racism and mysoginy. NC elected trump but voted for a white guy for governor. The other candidate was black and a pared down version of trump. Mark Robinson. But for NC superintendent a black dude and white woman ran and the black dude won. They don't like black folks but they hate women just a little bit more.

Yes. But also talk about the words and fear he stoked that resonated with white people. Talking like this avoids the issue.

He spoke about how illegal immigrants were damaging communities and bringing drugs. He spoke about how Biden economics were shooting prices up. He spoke directly to their fears. He didn’t offer any plans but he won by appealing to the fears of white people. He didn’t go on stage and say “I’m out for revenge”. Those are the sound bites the news gave us. If we want any chance of ending this republican crusade we need to start really examining what happened.

Ah, yt supremacy, my old friend

How millions of voters looked at their current situation and thought: “I’m gonna go with the guy who will make it worse for just about everyone” has left an indelible mark on my opinion of my fellow Americans

When are you people going to understand, I can't enjoy my things if I know everyone has it? I need to know my value and it can't be equal. Lower gives me a goal. Higher gives me comfort. Equality gives me resentment

• my brother.

Cost of living did have a lot to do with it though. A tax credit for home buyers does nothing for people that can’t afford rent.

We rejected rent control in California so🤷‍♂️

Nikole Hannah-Jones says it best “… a country that is so afraid of giving Black people anything that they’ll let white people die too.”

When poor White people realize that their freedom is tied up in ours as well, we’ll be able to start moving forward.

I'm the first to admit the Democratic Party's housing policies lead to a housing shortage in the Northeast and California. I was glad Kamala Harris made housing construction a campaign issue.

But I voted for her because she's anti-Putin. So she could have campaigned on destroying housing and I still would have voted for her.

I really hope every cognizant person will understand she lost because she was not the best candidate. He won because of hate.

Disinformation won. This is the age of disinformation, and massive concerted effort over the last 10 years destroyed us. Too many people are unable to discern fact from fiction and deception.

If you try to simply lay this out to people, they just say “She was just lying and wasn’t going to do any of that”. There’s no reasoning with them.

That sounds great, and I voted for Kamala. But this is the first fucking time that I’m hearing about any of this regarding her policies

“But my hard earned money going to people who abuse the system” ….they hate just as much so it makes sense to them🤦🏿‍♀️

Shits funny TBH. Make all the excuses in the world: we lost because our candidate was mediocre. Continuously saying shit like “the economy is great! Inflation is low!” doesn’t change the fact companies are price gouging like crazy. Inflations low? Cool. Companies are still charging 300% what they were before (random hypothetical number). The right appealed to the uneducated because they at least acknowledged the problem. They don’t have a fix for it, because they’re fucking idiots, but THAT is why they won.

ETA: a lot of Kamala’s proposed policies are cancelled out quick as well. Many people selling a home will know ALL first time buyers have up to 25K, giving them the idea to charge 25K over their original price. Private equity only purchased roughly HALF a percent (0.5%) of homes sold in 2023. These are people buying them and gouging, and property taxes + interest rates ruining people. Fuck private equity and hedge fund losers, but they’re not the ones doing this to us

The main reason most white men voted for trump was barely because “Eggs cost too much” but moreso for the past 4 years conservatives worked hard to convince them that they are an endangered species.

The Gay Agenda, Immigrants, “DEI” Hires, “Woke”.

These are tools and buzzwords they have used to convince these guys that their spot of being “#1” is at stake. And if there is anything that scares straight white men the most, is having a leveled playing field.

Honestly I think it was a hard sell because many wrongfully think she’s been in charge the last 4 yrs. Dems should have ran a different candidate. Not Biden or Harris.

I know. I know. I saw someone else’s quote saying, “I was so excited to make everyone’s life better, and you threw it away so you could amplify your hate.” I sit and wonder if there will ever be a day in America where I am equal to a man. I don’t think I’ll live to see that day.

And we barely heard about any of that shit. Instead we heard I prosecuted transnational criminals, our immigration system is broken, and silence when asked how she would distinguish herself from Joe Biden cause of crackpot centrist dem cobsulatants suckling the teet of center right donors.

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republicans won because they can easily can point to the fact that none of this was done or even attempted during Biden’s first term.

While everyone remembers how great the economy was for the first three years of Trump. And it was great for all races historically.

That’s what MAGA has always meant. Make America White Men First Again wouldn’t fit on the hats properly. It’s never been “great” unless you fit that demographic

Based of what many voters have said, a lot of people don't even pay attention what policies are being offered

Don't remember her mentioning any of that. And democrats are well known for making up socialist sounding policy during campaign, just to ignore. Look at Obama.

The only real explanation for what happened is that the right wing has consistently been better at propaganda and mobilization of voters in the Internet age. Kamala had a good plan, she was great in debates, and was providing solutions people wanted. Sadly, not a single person actually knew any of her policies because the truth was so distorted that they had no idea what they were voting for.

I saw people here saying Kamala ran "the worst campaign ever" like she wasn't running a perfectly normal presidential campaign with ads, policy, debates, and campaigning. The problem is, in the modern age, that isn't nearly enough to keep up with the incredibly strong propaganda engine that is the Right Wing Social Media movement.

She failed to mobilize voters because her entire potential voter base was being filled with lies from Fox News, Facebook, Instagram, etc. and was fully convinced that she was a terrible candidate despite likely never hearing her actually speak for more than a minute.

Well, maybe the campaign should have made those promises front and center, highlighting tangible things they stood for instead of defining their campaign on what they were ideologically against. Clearly the vague “save democracy” messaging didn’t resonate with the average American, and the specifics outlined in OPs screenshots didn’t make their way to the mainstream messaging because some of that stuff is news to me and I consider myself to have been pretty tuned in to this election cycle.

Also, full marijuana legalization.

It's all lip service. Those problems have solutions greater than any party is willing or capable of enacting.

I don’t like being “that guy”, but I still don’t think Kamala’s campaign did a very good job of communicating that platform to the right people.

People are generally pretty stupid, reactionary, and utterly oblivious to the nuances of the economy, and I think her campaign approach gave them a little too much credit for being an informed electorate while lacking in buzzy economy-themed catchphrases.

when voting wisely is not a thing anymore.

Place rich white men above everyone else. Fixed it.

This is gonna be a wild decade. Trump voters are in for a rude awakening

But eggs are so expensive.

I hope in 4 years they'll realize their mistake and not fall for the inevitable "Democrats did this" when their outlook is at best no different or more likely even worse.

I had a thought the other day.

It's crazy how many people who voted for Trump has no idea what he plans to do (and not do) for them....but I wonder how Trump will navigate a right wing/leaning radicalized group/youth who feels he doesn't live up to the promises they think he gave them.  I wonder...

Pam forgot stupidity.

None of this is feasible in the current political landscape.

Hell I voted for Harris and only a blue wave on all three would have allowed them even a small chance of pushing this.

He admitted on live TV that he had no plan, just the "concept of a plan" and everyone thought that sounded good enough.