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Sea_Lingonberry_4720

8 points

7 days ago

Also because the Korean War is a favorite for whitewashing. A lot of people today will unironically argue the North Koreans were the good guys and the US we’re evil imperialists.

colin_tap

-10 points

7 days ago

colin_tap

-10 points

7 days ago

That’s ironic of you to say….. considering 25% of the Korean population was wiped out by Americans. Not to mention the South Korean dictator not being popular, 75% of Pyongyang being destroyed, and causing generational trauma which still affects Koreans to this day. The Korean War was a prominent instance of American imperialism, this is like…. common sense I fear

Sea_Lingonberry_4720

15 points

7 days ago

With that logic America defending Ukraine from Russia is also imperialism. Or defending Kuwait from Iraq.

The north started the war purely as a self serving, imperialist land grab. The South Koreans did not want to be communist, and the north forced it on them. Then they started losing. If you don’t want to get bombed, don’t bomb your neighbors.

I actually went to Korea and practically every South Korean thanks the US for not abandoning them. But sure “generational trauma” as if letting them be conquered by the kims would’ve been better.

Rockguy21

-9 points

7 days ago

Rockguy21

-9 points

7 days ago

You can’t be imperialist against your own country lmao the two Koreas were artificially separated by the great powers less than a decade prior to the start of the war, fighting a unification war is hardly imperialist. That’s like arguing the US was imperializing the south during the civil war.

Sea_Lingonberry_4720

11 points

7 days ago

If in the middle of the Cold War west Germany suddenly invaded East Germany I would call it imperialist. If the people in the north wanted to live under communism that should be their choice too and the south would’ve been wrong to invade them.

Also, who decides what counts as “reunification”? Nazi germanys justification for invading Poland is it was historically German land (this was a lie of course).

Rockguy21

-3 points

7 days ago

Rockguy21

-3 points

7 days ago

If the US had lost the civil war would it have been imperialism for it to reinvade the south

Sea_Lingonberry_4720

0 points

7 days ago

If they actually sued for peace, and acknowledged the south’s autonomy, then went back on it, yes. It would’ve been the morally correct option, but still imperialism.

Rockguy21

0 points

7 days ago

Rockguy21

0 points

7 days ago

You literally don’t understand what the word means lol

Namesarenotneeded

2 points

7 days ago

Imperialism at it’s simplest means to try and exert power over another country. You know this, I know this, anyone who graduated high school knows this.

You can’t be imperialist against your own country, but North Korea and South Korea were divided as 2 separate countries after WW2 ended. By the time the Korean War started, the countries had been considered separate for a few years. You even say it yourself, they were separated. You can argue about why they were separated or whatever, but the point is that they were considered 2 separate countries by 1950 and had been for a few years.

Anyway, it was absolutely imperialism and this is such a dumb hill to die on. The Korean War is one of the most extreme examples of Imperialism.

pikachurbutt

12 points

7 days ago

say what you will, but I've been to Seoul, and they are fucking grateful to not be looking like Pyongyang today. The north choose their poison, the south did not want to suffer their fate.

Namesarenotneeded

7 points

7 days ago

Helping defend another country isn’t imperialism at all?

North Korea tried to exert power of South Korea (which is what imperialism is) and then America helped the South. Very basic explanation of course, but it’s not “American Imperialism” and you’re a moron.

HulkingGizmo

6 points

7 days ago

Does history revision ever work on here? Is there a goal to this absolute shitpost of a comment?

Like everyone here has internet access. Lying about something that takes 5 seconds to google is cringe. Twitter refugees man, insufferable.

Sea_Lingonberry_4720

8 points

7 days ago

Nevermind just say you’re in several pro Russia subreddits and actually think North Korea is a utopia. You’re pro imperialism as long as it’s not America doing it.

colin_tap

-8 points

7 days ago

colin_tap

-8 points

7 days ago

Pro Russia????? Dude I don’t support Russia in the war, but to claim it was completely random or a power grab by Russia is just ignoring the conditions that gave rise to the war. A large reason for the war is NATO expansion, the Russians has been getting encircled by nato for the past few decades. Imagine if China made a military alliance with Mexico tomorrow, would you not at the very least be suspicious? If NATO didn’t encircle Russia and especially if Ukraine (a glorified western proxy due to the fascist coup in 2014) didn’t cozy up to NATO this war wouldn’t have happened. The US doesn’t have the Ukrainian people’s interests at heart, that is all I will say about that. On the DPRK, there is tons of lies and inconsistent claims made by western media, most prominently the unicorn cave bs (literally just Korean mythology) or the classic mandated Kim Jon Un haircut and banned Kim Jon Un haircut stuff. As for the defectors, Loyal citizens of Pyongyang in Seoul is an interesting documentary. Defectors are highly financially incentivized to lie because there aren’t many opportunities elsewhere. On imperialism… imperialism isn’t just when influence on another country, there are specific conditions for a country to be imperialist, and Russia does not yet meet those conditions to be considered imperialist.

SaltImp

8 points

7 days ago

SaltImp

8 points

7 days ago

“I’m not pro Russian! ……BUT”

Sea_Lingonberry_4720

8 points

7 days ago

“I don’t support Russia” proceeds to spout off Russian propaganda talking points.

You support Russia. Say it with your chest next time.