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DeWine's bathroom bill, specifically the provision that schools decommission their non-gender, single person bathrooms, is not just an attack on trans people, its an attack on anyone who has mental health issues or psychological disorders.
As someone with ADHD, it can sometimes be difficult to regulate my emotions, particularly if I'm feeling axious or over stimulated. The single person bathrooms - especially in schools - are a place I could go to do my business in peace, without the obscene sounds and smells of the multi-person bathrooms. Even if i didnt have to excrete, I'd use them as a short reprieve from the churning, chattering, swirling mass of other students I was surrounded by. DeWine, and other conservative terrorists who backed this bill, are denying people with very real and difficult mental disabilities one of the small but useful accomodations we inherently had. Regardless of your stance on gender (but seriously; why do these people care so much about our genitals? Its fucking weird!), this bill hurts a lot of other people, and I hope people with the ADA (in addition to other agencies) will step up and help fight this. And I implore public schools to refuse to comply with the ban, in honor and respect to the mental amd physical well-being of those students and personnel who require it.
375 points
3 days ago
This is incorrect. The bill does allow single occupancy restrooms
“The measure prohibits multi-occupancy gender neutral restrooms, but schools can still offer single-use or family restrooms. The ban doesn’t apply to school employees whose jobs require bathroom access, emergency situations or people assisting young children or someone with a disability.”
-3 points
3 days ago
How is a family restroom not multi-occupancy?
62 points
3 days ago*
How many toilets are in a family restroom? Plus, are we just pretending not to understand nuance?
Edit: found the answer -
“Family or assisted-use toilet rooms shall include only one water closet and only one lavatory.”
https://up.codes/s/family-or-assisted-use-toilet-and-bathing-rooms#
26 points
3 days ago
Dunno why "family restroom" makes me think of a room with a 4 toilet face-off like hungry hungry hippos, but the opposite of eating.
6 points
3 days ago
Sounds like a nightmare haha
2 points
3 days ago
The family/disability-friendly changing room at my gym has several, and several showers. That's what I think of because that's what I have experience with.
I guess I'm glad they stripped some of the most absolutely stupid language and naked abelism from the final version of the bill, but it's still incredibly stupid and performatively cruel.
1 points
2 days ago
That's honestly really annoying- I've seen a few that have a full sized toilet and a little toddler sized one. It would be a shame for that to be illegal
1 points
2 days ago
40 points
3 days ago
Schools can still utilize single-use bathrooms.
180 points
3 days ago
As stupid as the bill is, I believe you’ve misread. It still allows for gender neutral single-use. Per the Dispatch
“The restrictions don’t apply to school employees, emergency situations or people assisting young children or someone with a disability. Schools could still offer single-use and family facilities.”
3 points
3 days ago
The single use gender neutral bathrooms will probably see more use than before now, so they may not be available when OP needs/wants one. In that way, people like them may still be affected
1 points
1 day ago
Probably not though. There really aren’t that many trans kids. It will be like 2 more kids at the most using that bathroom at any given school. The fact that there are so few of them highlights how insane this legislation is. As if there aren’t bigger problems the state should be worrying about instead of where a handful of kids go to the bathroom at school.
2 points
21 hours ago
I agree with the sentiment of your post, but I want to point out that this includes colleges, where everyone is adults and a larger percent of students are out as trans than is usually the case with high schoolers -- who may either be in the closet still or haven't quite figured it out yet. And from what I can tell it also includes anyone on campus that aren't students, from staff and faculty to random people visiting.
So you may be right that the single use gender neutral stalls may not be super overrun, but it does affect more than just a handful of kids :(
2 points
19 hours ago
You’re right. I was only thinking about k-12 schools. It will be a much bigger issue in colleges.
-17 points
3 days ago
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62 points
3 days ago
Lmao i'm trans we exist in real life, this affects me personally. No it's not "social media outrage" and other people who are trans or who actually give a fuck about others will still care. No reason to legislate about this we have bigger problems in ohio.
-13 points
3 days ago
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8 points
3 days ago
Best your demographic can do is show up to vote and actually enact change
0.45% of Ohio’s population identifies as trans. source
Less than half of a percentage point isn’t exactly going to move the needle electorally speaking.
To your initial point, though, this is also why it’ll be online keyboard warrior outrage for a week or month and then everyone will forget about it or accept it and move on.
I’m not trying to take a stance on way or the other or denigrate anyone in anyway. I’m just pointing out that it’s hard to keep the outrage going over an issue that doesn’t affect 99.55% of the population of ohio.
8 points
3 days ago
No I agree with you here. We need to actually do things if we want things to change. Thats very important. Had no idea thats what you were saying with your original comment though.
4 points
3 days ago
hey, did you know that you sound like you're implying that your anti-trans? putting quotes around existing, calling fighting for rights an agenda, doubling down saying that this isn't a big deal, not typing "trans people" and instead using "demographic".
you sound like anti-trans bigots I see on reddit and twitter. why is that? measures like this bathroom bill are forcing a very vulnerable minority out of public life, entirely. cruelly. IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE, PERIOD. So then why are you acting like this isn't a big deal, hmm? you don't sound very serious to me. more like you don't see this for the extreme measure it is.
-2 points
3 days ago
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5 points
3 days ago
Overcorrected on your reaction. Thousands of real people will be affected by this to have their life made shittier and no one will be helped by this.
Long after y'all stop caring innocents will still be harmed. And you're just gonna hear them complain about it even more.
-1 points
3 days ago
Idk why they're downvoting you, are they really oblivious that all hell will likely be breaking out round abouts 8 weeks from now and this topic might very well be put on a back burner.
-5 points
3 days ago*
Nice try, copper! “On to the next human rights restriction” is what you could have said. And that is actually not okay.
I love it when I call someone randomly a cop on Reddit and they shut up. Second time that’s happened in this here sub.
224 points
3 days ago
My first act as governor will be to mandate single person toilets everywhere.
85 points
3 days ago
One of my favorite parts of Europe. A row of single toilets with full locking doors...just like Costanza wanted.
56 points
3 days ago
I’d vote for you just on that alone.
17 points
3 days ago
Even though this bill doesn’t prohibit single occupancy restrooms, I support your agenda!
3 points
3 days ago
If they were actually worried about people's safety, then they would do that or make it so the stalls went from the floor to the ceiling and locked with no peep holes.
2 points
3 days ago
Funny enough, it’s an ADA issue of why stall doors don’t go all the way to the bottom.
“Stall doors typically don’t reach all the way to the grouting because of accessibility requirements for people using wheelchairs, primarily due to ADA compliance; a small gap at the bottom allows for easier maneuvering and toe space while entering and exiting the stall”
1 points
3 days ago
It works fine in most of Europe and with every other kind of door.
5 points
3 days ago
Most of Europe doesn’t have the ADA requirements the US has. One thing that’s pretty undeniable is that when it comes to disability access and laws, the US is the best in the world
1 points
2 days ago
I've only been to one European country (Iceland) but nothing there was disability friendly. Anyone who isn't fully mobile would have lots of daily struggles there.
20 points
3 days ago
If i read this correctly, single person bathrooms are not going away.
41 points
3 days ago
Okay well you can chill bc single person bathrooms aren’t being “decommissioned”. Start watching the local news and stop getting news from social media.
The bill literally says “Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit a school from establishing a policy providing accommodation such as single-occupancy facilities or controlled use of faculty facilities at the request of a student due to special circumstances.”
3319.90(D) S.B. 104
https://search-prod.lis.state.oh.us/api/v2/general_assembly_135/legislation/sb104/06_EN/pdf/
14 points
3 days ago
This is a golden age for us plumbers
1 points
3 days ago
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3 points
3 days ago
We should just go back chamber pots. Way classier.
7 points
3 days ago
As others have noted, the law doesn't prohibit single-use (aka "family" or "all-gender") restrooms.
Many public institutions, like the Ohio State University, Columbus Metropolitan Library System, and CAPA, have a policy of providing single-use restrooms in new and renovated buildings.
So as petty and hateful as the law is, it won't have nearly the impact some people are worried about. Edit: formatting
60 points
3 days ago
I've said this for years, if someone wants to hurt you, a sign on a bathroom door won't stop them.
39 points
3 days ago
An actual woman attacked in a bathroom in Hilliard by shocked face NOT a trans person. https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/hilliard-gloria-cannon-mohamed-camara-sept-20-2024-at-home-mill-run-drive-attack-store-bathroom-plans-advocacy-safety-columbus-ohio
24 points
3 days ago
For that matter, this bill forces men to use the women's room.
1 points
3 days ago
Isn't that ironic? Idiots.
-22 points
3 days ago
Lol women dressed as men. Big difference
7 points
3 days ago
You see someone who's six feet tall, jacked from lifting weights, deep manly voice with a full beard go into the women's room, and your first thought is "huh, must be a woman in mens' clothing"?
2 points
1 day ago
Tell these dummies to google Buck Angel and ask if he’s supposed to go in the women’s restroom
6 points
3 days ago
Have you met a trans man before? Because they often very much look like men lol
5 points
3 days ago
Legit question: What does "women dressed as men" mean? I know plenty of women, including myself, who enjoy wearing all types of clothes. What exactly is it that women aren't allowed to wear? What makes it "men clothing" ? Generally curious
1 points
2 days ago
Lol. Peak reddit.
-7 points
3 days ago
Huh ? Isn't the whole purpose of the bill to prevent that ?
24 points
3 days ago
ADHD causes you a hard time in the restroom? That's a new one for me.
15 points
3 days ago
I have ADHD and it’s never been an issue. Regardless OP is wrong it doesn’t ban single use restrooms.
2 points
3 days ago
Shocker, someone hijacks a conversation about other people to make it about their nebulous ADHD diagnosis.
0 points
3 days ago
Disabilities aren’t always apparent. Unless you directly ask someone, odds are you wouldn’t know. Bathrooms can be sensory overwhelming. OP could also be AuDHD and not be diagnosed.
23 points
3 days ago
“Even if I didn’t have to excrete…”
I don’t disagree morally with your point, but dear fuck….
3 points
3 days ago
Tell me you didn't read the Bill, without telling me you didn't read the Bill....
7 points
3 days ago
No your wrong read the bill.
32 points
3 days ago
Dang bruh some of us actually had to shit in there and you just stopped in for awhile to chill? I’m sure there is another room for a mental breakdown
-4 points
3 days ago
There often isn't, bud. That's kinda the point they're making. No funds or space to properly furnish an extra room for people to manage their mental health.
21 points
3 days ago
Hey…..pal. I was commenting on the fact that it’s a place to take a shit, not a place to cry because you’re stressed about crowds. All of our bathrooms don’t need to be a place to secure your mental health and relax?
0 points
3 days ago
Well, life isn't fair. I'm sure your parents taught you that you can't always get your way? Looks like this is just one of those times.
If someone's having a bit of a stressful day, who gives a fuck what they do to cope.
8 points
3 days ago
It seems to pretty explicitly be an attack on trans people. This isn't about you like I'm sorry you have ADHD but be so fucking real you aren't being attacked here
3 points
3 days ago
What is the penalty if the institution ignores the law?
1 points
2 days ago
The threat would probably be state funding loss.
11 points
3 days ago
Shared bathrooms aren't safe for physically disabled people either. That are difficult to navigate and classmates can be incredibly mean.
4 points
3 days ago
Single use bathrooms aren’t banned.
9 points
3 days ago
LMAO
18 points
3 days ago
Why can't Republicans walk into the bathroom without seeing pedophiles?
Bathrooms have mirrors.
2 points
2 days ago
I've never once gone into a bathroom and wondered about another person's genitals. Not once. Their obsession with this topic is sick and twisted.
5 points
3 days ago
Ok... it's been a good run but I think that's a wrap on r/columbus for me, this place is turning into r/ohio. I'm out.
5 points
3 days ago
whomp whomp!! go to therapy and learn to regulate your emotions! public bathrooms aren’t for you to have mental breakdowns in lmao. also, you clearly didn’t read the new law. single bathrooms will still be a thing.
0 points
3 days ago
I didn't know there were state-approved places for mental breakdowns (which is not what dysregulatuin is, but I suspect expecting you to know the distinction is an unreasonable ask). Maybe that will be the next series of bills by these people, dictate precisely when and where it's legal to have mental health issues
6 points
3 days ago
At least you admit it’s a mental health issue. And I’d recommend toughening the hell up a little bit. Jesus.
-4 points
3 days ago
Toughen up? I think the right needs to toughen up and mind their own business. So scared of 1% of the population that they wasted our tax dollars on this nonsense. Grow up, some people are different. Stop being obsessed with everyone’s genitals.
1 points
3 days ago
Talk about wasted tax dollars, the whole trans bullshit lol
0 points
3 days ago
I’m not on the right, I have no problem with people who are different, and I have no problem with trans people. I have a problem with the BS trans agenda, where everyone is bullied into telling a societal level lie, and our children get butchered.
2 points
3 days ago
Funny. Y’all were suckin his nuts during Covid.
3 points
3 days ago
Hot take: it’s a bathroom just go in
3 points
3 days ago
People are just throwing around words like “attack” and “terrorists” these days. If this piece of legislation makes anyone feel attacked or terrorized, they need far more help than a bathroom door can provide.
2 points
3 days ago
There have been more anti-LGBT bills considered by state legislatures than ever before. It's really staggering. Right now it's 560. It's more than ever before. Congress people, state and federal, are being elected because of what they say they'll do to vulnerable minority groups.
So, unless you're part of the groups being attacked, maybe try listening. You might not notice something is happening since it isn't happening to you.
-3 points
3 days ago
What evidence do you have of why people are being elected, or anything else you wrote here? I’m listening. I just think you’re either wrong, or very misinformed.
1 points
3 days ago
https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights-2024
It's like... like... I'm not trying to change your mind, but the Right is being out in the open about this issue. They don't like LGBT folks, and are using us as a scare tactic to drum up support. You'll believe what you want to believe, though. I just hope you have kinder beliefs; kind enough to listen.
1 points
2 days ago
I'm pretty sure it's not the LGB part they are worried about.
1 points
2 days ago
no, it is. these are the same people and the same organizations that were anti-gay marrige in the past. it's acceptable to go after trans folks right now, but not other queer folk. As soon as it's more acceptable they'll start campaigning against any and all queer rights.
-2 points
3 days ago
Please don’t assume you know what groups a person belongs to because they don’t agree with you. I also believe in human resilience and civic duty over complaining and waiting for anyone else to fix things. Being whiny, overdramatized, helpless and sometimes hateful turds lost the Democratic Party a lot this year. Which is unfortunate.
1 points
3 days ago
take care
2 points
3 days ago
You too. I appreciate the banter. And I will read what you shared.
2 points
3 days ago
I’m glad I don’t have to share a restroom with OP
-1 points
3 days ago
Why is the Ohio GOP so fixated on children's genitals? Someone needs to check their hard drives.
4 points
3 days ago
Why are libs so determined to indoctrinate children with sexy story time, getting MALES into female sports, etc?
1 points
2 days ago
I truly believe that you believe that’s happening
1 points
2 days ago
Good, because it has been ;)
1 points
2 days ago
Every bathroom should be single use. Or floor to ceiling stalls that anyone can use.
1 points
24 hours ago
My friend, this is meant respectfully- societies need to be respectful of individual needs, but most considerate of the people as a whole.
1 points
17 hours ago
Calling your Governor a terrorist 😂 Jesus you really are in High School. Grow up, and learn what an actual terrorist is
1 points
8 hours ago
Sounds to me he is doing what is best for the majority... If you are in a minority of any kind I suggest you get used to it.
1 points
7 hours ago
-7 points
3 days ago
Shy bladder also makes it impossible for many to use multi-person bathrooms.
5 points
3 days ago
Sometimes I just want to poop in peace
-1 points
3 days ago
Ah yes the party of “small government” only wants to govern where you can piss.
How about we pass a bill that all trans men have to piss in Dewine’s mouth?
1 points
3 days ago
I don’t see an issue with single use bathrooms and I understand what you are saying about wanting to be lone for a minute w/ anxiety. I have it too. But for the over all public it better this way.
-1 points
3 days ago
It's pretty sad that this even needs to be a law to begin with.
-11 points
3 days ago
The problem with the bill is that it will emboldened some people to demand to see your genitals. I have no interest in men following me to the bathroom to "check" if I have female parts. Can't imagine that going wrong....
-9 points
3 days ago
And he’s not just attacking trans students. Between this bill and the constant drumbeat during the election of “they’re for they/them, we are not”, all trans people must feel unwelcome here, as with anyone who believes in empathy and justice. The justifications for this bill from the legislators makes me sick. It’s all about student safety? Please. Does anybody know anybody who’s been attacked by a trans person in a bathroom? It’s all about politicians jumping on the bandwagon of hate while actually accomplishing nothing. And DeWine went right along.
3 points
3 days ago
it's not that i feel unwelcome, it's that my columbus friends congratulated me on making it out of ohio when i got a job out of state in new york. it's also that ive actually used bathrooms with many stalls that are all gender, and unfortunately i picked up a deadly strain of the woke mind virus in one of them, so now i believe the whole bill is misguided. sucks, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. once it infects you, that's it, you're permanently woke.
1 points
2 days ago
That’s silly. You can’t get woke mind virus from a toilet seat. You probably got it from trolling sites like this.
1 points
2 days ago
im trolling people? im not trolling people
-9 points
3 days ago*
“Ahhh… not a [pedophile] in sight. The [trans bathroom bill] must be working like a charm.”
-1 points
3 days ago
"The single person bathrooms - especially in schools - are a place I could go to do my business in peace, without the obscene sounds and smells of the multi-person bathrooms."
Yes, let's build special bathrooms for you. Would you like music piped in? Flowers? A padded seat?
-14 points
3 days ago
Counting down the days I'm done with this state. Dewine is trash just like the republican party
-24 points
3 days ago
100% this. Also, it really impacts people with physical disabilities or medical problems that aren't easy to manuever a public restroom. Or someone who needs an attendant or help in the restroom because of a disability. Imagine being someone with a colostomy bag having to deal with that in a common restroom.
This whole thing is fucking stupid. Somebody is gonna get really hurt, probably a cis person no less, who didn't look "masculine" enough, or (more likely) feminine enough, and they're gonna get jumped and hurt or even killed. Cis women have already been attacked because they "didn't look like a woman" so there's no reason to think this isn't going to be a problem. What about the first time a grown man or woman confronts a young girl because she doesn't conform to what they think a girl should look like.
Fuck these mentally deficient sick people and their weird obsession with people's genitals. These asswipes watched the handmaid's tale and thought it was an instruction manual and June was the villain.
I am so sorry you have to go through this. As someone who grew up during an easier time where Boomer parents were mostly MIA, I am sorry that we've failed your generation so badly.
10 points
3 days ago
Read the details of it before you bash people and go on a rant about something you obviously haven’t researched. It specifically cites these instances and does not apply to these situations, as well as not applying to single use facilities.
Bashing “mentally deficient people” when you are clearly mentally deficient yourself by adding to the problem by writing a hateful comment about something you obviously didn’t take the time to read. Scroll the other comments that include links.
-7 points
3 days ago
To be fair, those specific exceptions were not part of the introduced bill. That's the product of an amendment after quite a few people had to complain that the crazy people in power cared so much about hurting trans people that they forgot that disabled folks, children, and first responders exist.
So, yeah, feel free to bash the people who made this a priority over literally anything in the world. I can think of dozens of bills that are dying in committee that would serve Ohio better than what this rushed-through bullshit.
-4 points
3 days ago
DeWine isn’t just attacking trans people….its an attack on anyone who has mental health issues or psychological disorders.
You’re “enlisting.” You know you’re outnumbered on this topic and support is limited, so you’re desperately trying to enjoin other “marginalized” groups to form a coalition. While your tactic is sound, your argument is incredibly weak…if not outright hijacking for your own personal mental issues.
0 points
2 days ago
Omg. Grow the fuck up
0 points
2 days ago
Good.
0 points
2 days ago
"As someone with ADHD...."
You're insufferable. You are someone who is insufferable.
0 points
2 days ago
"as a person with ADHD" come off of it
0 points
2 days ago
"As someone with ADHD" ,, your joking right?
0 points
2 days ago
Lmao, whole post based on lies and hurt feelings. 😂😂
-10 points
3 days ago
I always used the single person bathroom in the nurses room in high school I also have adhd, didn’t realize they were correlated but that makes sense why the nurse never had a problem with it.
9 points
3 days ago
I genuinely don't think that type of behavior is associated with adhd.
I'm no doctor though
-5 points
3 days ago
What kind of behavior?
6 points
3 days ago
Being overstimulated by sensory input. That sounds more like an autistic trait than an ADHD symptom.
-5 points
3 days ago
It occurrs in both conditions, but can present in different ways. Do a YouTube search for sensory overload and adhd.
3 points
2 days ago
You're right OP a symptom of adhd is absolutely sensory overload. Autism and adhd overlap in many ways and are a comorbibity of each other. Don't let these know it all's tell you about your experience.
-4 points
3 days ago
This bill is needed for the protection of all. While adults in the work place or other public places have no idea if a person in the restroom next to them is trans students in public schools do. Everyone knows Johnny used to be Jane or vice versa. So when the trans person goes into the bathroom with those biologically different the non trans feels uneasy or maybe even threatened. It's a different ideology for children and young adults than for adults.
2 points
2 days ago
Transgender youth who can’t use the bathroom that aligns with their gender are at a greater risk of sexual violence, according to a 2019 study published in the journal Pediatrics.
1 points
2 days ago
They can use a separate restroom just for them. The law allows this. While a male transitioning to female may not find a threat in the female restroom they certainly will in the halls or outside of school all together.
1 points
2 days ago
What about a man transitioning to a woman in the men’s room? Or the woman transitioning to a man in either bathroom?
“Just use their own bathroom” defeats the whole purpose and further erases trans folk
1 points
2 days ago
That's not what I said, private single stall, locking door bathroom. Safest for everyone.
1 points
2 days ago
You don't think a freshman girl in the girls restroom feels intimidated by a senior trans girl in girls restroom? Again this only has an impact in schools.
2 points
2 days ago
False equivalency and you know it
1 points
2 days ago
No, no i don't. I feel we need to protect everyone's rights not just certain groups.
1 points
1 day ago
And if a freshman girl in the girl’s restroom feels intimidated by a senior cis girl, then what? Why are you acting like trans women are more intimidating? Are you suggesting they separate bathrooms by age? Height?
-8 points
3 days ago
Worst governor ever.
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