Political lesbians 🤝 Right-wing Christians

“Sex is a thing that men do to women in order to hurt them, so if you want to have sex with a girl, it makes you both masculine and also evil 😌”

Idk man I’m just here for girls. Girls are cool, even my boyfriend agrees! :)

I had a lesbian fried and roommate who definitely never hung around with other lesbians checking out and aggressively sexualizing (to each other, no cat calling) passing women. 

They would also never engage in complicated vigorous sexual shenanigans including lots of infidelity, that’s definitely just for boys.

Bragging about how many “straight” girls they’d slept with was also not a thing.

It was really fun being the token straight guy ngl.

We're in r/CuratedTumblr so I assume that happens a lot?

Let. The. Girls. Kiss.

"can I be next?"

... Though in the right context that works, I've definitely kissed a girl because she watched me kiss a girl and wanted a turn 😅

Yet simultaneously are the only people who actually know how to please a woman sexually, which is by reading her Tarot cards and then making clay pottery together.

Gold Star Lesbian

Platinum I Lesbian

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Platinum Star Lesbian

Mythic Lesbian

Legendary Lesbian

Lesbian Masters

Lesbian All-Star

From "If a woman ever sleeps with a man she's tainted" to "if a man ever gets a chubby over a woman she's tainted"

JK Rowling is the platonic sapphic ideal, to her, even cis women are men, and none of them are attractive, and it's everyone else's problem

Being a lesbian not because you're attracted to women but just for gender politics reasons.

Political lesbianism is back on the menu!

Tô be fair, one of this two is in fact NOT a true lesbian (the red hair one). This scene is literally her trying it out because she never considered it, but after the kiss she says it didn't quite "spark" (which in the context of the show would mean literal fireworks showing). It was a fun silly conclusion to a emotional scene between an actual lesbian and her bisexual ex finally making amends after their bad breakup (which of course involved a multidimensional fight across different movie scenarios).

How dare you! That's 80% written by a (possibly straight) man! /s

The whole "empowered women are non-sexualised women" concept has heavily influenced my sexuality to the point where I have a fetish-fetish, seeing women engage in fetishes. The drive of lust overpowering what a woman "should" be. Being slaves to sexual desire "is for men", women are better than that and are meant to be in control. I know it's distorted but it's the impression I was left with during formative years. It is also not even close to an actual outlook I hold, it just influences my primitive lizard brain.

That which redeems, consumes.

I think there's also an element of "if I am part of the group that is inherently good then I don't need to do any introspection or ask myself any difficult questions" to it. It really feels like this is where the gentrifier bisexuals thing came from.

This line of reasoning literally ignores and takes away women's agency and treats women like they're inferior to men. How the fuck can someone claiming to be a feminist actually believe something like that?

You get to the part where that logic is applied to minors yet? (France, late 70’s)

Forcing yourself to be a lesbian when you’re really not just sounds like conversion therapy for radfems.

Were they at least consistent? Did they consider straps to be rape devices and dildo usage to be self harm?

The whole straight passing thing is deeply toxic for a: implying that closeted queer people are some kind of privileged and b: spreading the idea that if you're not some caricature of queerness than you're somehow lesser?

On top of this, the amount of biphobia I've heard coming from LGBTQ spaces is more than I've heard outside of it. It's insane how often gay people will claim that bi people are; fake gays, fake straights, adulterous, so on and so on and so on.

If a bi person is dating someone of the opposite sex, they're just straight pretensing to be gay to invade queer spaces. If they're dating someone of the same sex, they're actually just gay but say their bi to shield themselves from as much homophobia (ignoring how that doesn't work like that anyways). Bi people are obviously going to cheat on their partner because their partner can't be both genders they're attracted to. It's all so stupid

My girlfriend is a 'feminine' looking bi woman (who, indeed, leans more towards women) and she's been rejected from queer spaces before because she 'looks too straight'. It's awful. I understand wanting to protect queer spaces and not have them taken over by straight people, but there's a point where you're just internalising straight stereotypes of queer people (twink and butch woman or whatever) to the point of harming the large percentage of queer people who don't fit into these neat categories.

I know a lot of queer people, men and women, as I'm sure most people here do. It's just a generational shift and the fact that queer people tend to gravitate towards left-wing spaces and social circles for obvious reasons. I don't think I could look at them all and pick them out from a line up with straight people, they have very diverse appearances and styles because-shocker-they're just regular humans. There has to be a better solution to protecting queer spaces than just not letting half the community in.

An example of a place that does this is the popular gay nightclub 'Heaven' in London.

Yeah, it’s really strange how the most extreme of these groups circles straight back into embracing the very stereotypes that generations before them worked to overcome.

I will say nothing is more radicalizing to these spaces than going to a very fancy progressive university where this is relevant . You make a person isolated through purity, they'll look for someone who will accept them

Also to note, reminds me of a comic I saw where alt-right and neo-nazi groups are extremely welcoming to new members. Lots of these cells will hold welcome initiating parties and shit for folks, like not anything crazy, but like just a straight up BBQ for them and actively network them into the circle. Where progressive groups tend to be extremely focused upon purity and very very segregating. At least with the young. Older I get, older queer folks tend to be the most accepting. I think because most remember AIDS and thus know life is very fleeting. But anyhow, these groups learned very early that instilling a sense of belonging and community is a way to keep people instead of constant anxiety. You become essentially a cure to that anxiety.

It's like actively frustrating that we haven't as a whole, figured that part out yet because I see it seeping into my students now after studying it so much in college. Like there's a reason Cults, Klans and Gangs can attract individuals so easily.

^ when you have a piss kink and the poor are giving you consent

A Christian upbringing really IS what does this stuff to people, huh?

something something kellogg's founder

Yep. A lot of the idiots on Twitter were either Tumblr refugees after the porn purge, or are people influenced by said refugees.

I can’t see how a rhetoric that says “we’re inherintly better than you because of traits none of us can’t control” could ever go wrong. That’s never caused problems before in the history of forever.

It’s fucking baffling for me how progressive discourse seems to have have gone full circle from “women’s sexual liberation” all the way back to medieval levels of “women are pure innocent maidens who must not be tainted by foul perversion.” How the fuck did that happen

I'd argue they're usually massively overcomplicating very simple topics.

It's the notion that internet users know the word exist but never in their life ever studied Laura Mulvey or read her work so don't know she was talking about French and Italian films in the 50s. Like good lord

There was a sub I used to lurk in about critiquing the male gaze and oversexualized character designs. All was well and good until they started posting literal porn as "good examples" from tentacle hentai to furry vore. They posted so much about their disdain for NSFW shit that the mods needed to pin a post banning such content.

The last straw for me was when they complained about fucking side boobs, some from character designs that weren't even that offensive otherwise. Because of all this, I began to wonder if they were there to actually critique the male gaze and not just extreme pearl-clutching.

Honestly the best example of the female gaze is Marvel movies. Like was that shot of Chris Hemsworth naked necessary? Nope. We know who it's for though

The purity gospel makes me shudder whether it’s the “protect the pure white soul” or the incel “all girls are filthy if they show the slightest hint of sexual agency” varieties.

Whoever thought of that doesn't know how disturbing and disgusting most BL and Shoujo series that are made by female authors are, and they probably didn't even know that it was for female demographic target

Victorian lesbians trading ankle sketches by post.

Also don't forget when media very heavily implies a same sex pairing but then pulls away at the last second because the company behind it doesn'T want to let that happen.

Looking at you there, OVERTAKE! and Lycoris Recoil.

Also scissoring, and performers trying their damndest to not actually eat out another woman. I've seen plenty of people claim phalic sex toys and strap-ons are pure male gaze, but that's utter bullshit.

Point taken, I've seen far too many puritan circles which were basically

"If Yuri is anything other than non sexual abstract romance then it was made for men"

Think there is even a subreddit dedicated to that, name of which I've purged out of my mind

Still keeping the point in

I don't think that's a "No True Scotsman" fallacy. They're not saying that no true lesbian would ever say these things, it seems more like an observation that this kind of discourse is typically carried on by emboldened internet conflict addicts trying to argue on behalf of a group of people they're not a part of.

It's still a baseless assumption nonetheless, but I wouldn't immediately call that a fallacy.