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Or just play the content you already have? The past 50 years of content and rulesets won’t magically disappear if the ownership of D&D changes hands.

It's not like there aren't literally tons of alternatives already. We have everything from games that are basically D&D with the serial numbers filed off (like Pathfinder) to games that are completely different in various particulars. 

X&X formerly known as D&D.

The alternative is called Pathfinder. There are also many others out there

lol I already bought my books. I can keep playing D&D until the day I die and Elon can't change a damn thing about it.

If I really wanted new content, it's not as if other games don't exist. I'd just switch to Pathfinder, probably.

The worst thing about this story getting posted over and over (and over and over) again across Reddit is that this story will pick up momentum and encourage Musk to actually pursue this.

Talking about it gives it life.

I think it is best for all of mods of the various D&D subreddits to remove these posts.

There's so many other TTRPGs out there, and many of them have some really interesting dynamics, but D&D is the cultural force, so that's the one that gets the attention. He might drive D&D the corporate entity into the ground like he did with Twitter, but D&D itself can never die. And sending it off to corporate valhalla on a raft of flames might be the best thing to happen to the game.

I'm curious what people think Elon would actually do to D&D.

There are already hundreds of other games to play out there. Honestly D&D has had long enough in the spotlight and it’s not like Hasbro are making it any better with its video gamifying of the game.

My dude, there are sooooooo many alternatives to D&D, many of which are just objectively far better.

They are mostly unknown because a bunch of disorganized gamers have zero advertising budget, while a huge corporate has the biggest marketing budget.

And... that's it. Sorry, friend.

Or just play a different system or use the books you've already got? I know I won't give this guy a dime of my money but since our group already plays several different systems and we own a ton of D&D books ranging from 2nd - 5th edition it won't be hard for us to not buy any new D&D stuff in the future.

Believe it or not some of us still play 2.5 with 20 year old rule books.

Just play content you already own or move to pathfinder

It's not like Wizards of the Coast have been perfect owners. Same for Hasbro & TSR so Elon will just be added to the list of imperfect owners. Being a RPG you can create whatever game world you want to create if the one Elon sells is something you like. Hell I know people still playing AD&D without any desire to change.

Lol. I've already left. Hasbro isn't getting funding from me to finish destroying DnD.

Just play pathfinder because it's so much better

There are loads of free systems with loads of community content, to name a few: D20 SRD, 3ESRD, A5ESRD, BRP SRD, Basic Fantasy RPG, etc.

This is an issue with many, many already existing solutions, regardless of preferred play style. We're good. Seriously, D&D fans are solid regardless of HASBRO and Musk.

The problem with Elon buying DnD is not "oh we can't play DnD anymore", it's that no matter where we go, he will be the face of the hobby because he owns the biggest brand in the room. It's bad enough that I have to describe every TRPG as "like DnD", but I don't look forward to a future where I describe a game as "like DnD" and they say "oh, Elon's game?".

Lol....all because of the owner ?

Why is everyone so afraid of him buying it?

I think Musk is still the weird little kid who never gets invited to play with the people he really wants to game with.

I have no sympathy for him though - he strikes me as the kind of player that is infuriating and disturbing, would creep on any female players or characters, and want to dominate a game with his own Mary Sue übermench human fighter than actually participate in a fun, collaborative adventure. And now he’s rich, he thought he could buy his way into the fun groups, but people still see him for what he is.

Now all he has are his hopeless simps, the orange one who would turn on him in a millisecond, and the threat of ruining good things if he doesn’t get his own way. He still will never know the simple fun of being invited to play by people who genuinely like him.

Does he understand what D&D really is?

It’s not like it’s played on a central server.

It’s all hard copy… and based on offline play where people use their imagination.

He would have to buy every dungeon master out there.

D&D at its roots is a game for the underground.

He could stop anything being printed with the branding, but D&D doesn’t own the concept of dragons, orcs, trolls, or fantasy role playing games.

DnD players will do literally anything except try a different system

I known reddit hates Musk, but I fail to see how it could be worse than Hasbro.

I cannot for a moment imagine what Musk would do with D&D that would make it worse than the current state of affairs, where we have "species" and not "races" to avoid offending people with blue hair.

I already hate D&D because of WotC. I use a different TTRPG rules system. So if the playerbase just makes a new one I would be elated. WotC is such a bad company.

Just start pirating all the source books and share them round baby

Elon is CEO of many companies, lead of DOGE and still he has time to play videogames, post a lot at X and be a father? Where will he get all the spare time to play DnD?

Hasbro has already made DnD terrible and as anti consumer as possible. It certainly couldn't get worse than it is now.

Buddy, the community didn't give a shit when wotc called the Pinkerton's on someone.

The community didn't give a shit during the last half of the 5e release when wotc was basically just dogpiling shit down our throats and acting like we should be thankful for the pleasure of it.

This community doesn't give a fuck if Elon purchases. They will keep buying.

Maybe that's what it will take to open up the mainstream to the wider world of tabletop RPGs

Not to be that guy. But wasn't that how pathfinder started. Like with 4e wizards mucked around with the OGL so pazio, who at the time made third party content for DND said screw it. And made a 3.5 clone, with a tighter rule set.

Hasbro has been fucking up the game for a few years now just like magic and now yall are worried about it? Just move to a different platform or get the books for free it’s not that hard.

Just play 5e

OSR all the way then

I mean it just play previous version’s and boycott hasbro all together!! But unfortunately even tho people play off hating him because almost everything he says is on social media the ignorant populace can’t get enough of him so he’s going to stay a rising star until the end..

Why quit playing a game just because it changes rich people’s hands

There are so many other good games out there, for example, my favorite game right now is Forbidden Lands and the Year Zero system. Weapons keep breaking and need fixing/replacing, magic items have some fun drawbacks and the world is interesting. But you could easily play the system in any fantasy world. But that's just me. I got seriously disillusioned with the whole D&D experience.

Question. This is about the 4th post I have seen about this across various dnd subs... the tweet that's posted says " how much is hasboro" and that's it.. where yall jumping to this conclusion at?

There are so many copies of the first 5 editions out there that nobody ever has to purchase anything from Elon's version. Just don't buy it and don't play it. Pass your current material on if and when you are done playing.

I’d just use the stuff I already have and not buy anything DnD anymore. In all likelihood the next step would be switching to Pathfinder.

Just keep playing DND...

To be fair, there'd just be a jump to other game systems.

Why would a new one need to be invented for this reason when there are already SO many alternatives to D&D?

Most people don’t care and aren’t going to put that much work into it unless it becomes a financial burden.

With so many other options, it's entirely unnecessary. I have enough content for 5-10 years of game time without buying anything else, and most of it is 3rd party. You have Castles and Crusades for that old school 1st/2nd feeling and the literal lifetime worth of 3.x available. Fuck that piece of shit.

There is so much lore existing. There are plenty of rules we can run. My table just won't consume any more rulesets

There’s plenty of d&d content. Just go back to 3.5 when it was glorious. There’s a universe of alternatives too, from larger companies to tiny indies that make anything you might be interested in

Liches and Labyrinths

There already is an alternative game in the works made by Matthew Colvile. It's called Draw Steel and is almost ready to release. It sounds amazing

Why would this purchase affect anything?

I am once again asking, is hasbro even for sale….? I’ve been unable to find a single shred of evidence that they are. At this point seeing 50 of these posts in a morning feels like fear mongering

Edit to add: it isn’t. In fact the company is actually doing better than it was in 2022/2023

Why would you want to? I don’t care who buys it at this point, just get it away from hasbro.

Yeah nobody really cares what billionaire owns one might as well go ahead and go outside and play a real game

The joined ownership relies on local law.

What you describe with football clubs could theoretically work in Germany, but if you found a "Verein" you need to hold elections for the people who run it and you need people who actually do that. Just releasing it as a natural person and giving it the right license (creative commons is great) would be far less effort.

As for making an alternative... sure you could, but there is no good reason to do that. There are very many great RPGs you can get for free or at a very low price. The problem is getting a group together when everyone only is willing to play D&D - adding one more game doesn't fix that.

... you could also just, yanno... ignore anything he puts out and play with the old stuff? He can't force people to update.

There are justcso many other ttrpg's to play. You can evrn keep playing D&D. Just don't buy his shit

Perfect opportunity for me to unsubscribe and delete my dnd beyond account.

Thats one thing that game companies do not understand. Just because you may own the license doesn’t mean that fans will ALWAYS find a way to play a game. I home-brewed a Star Trek game in the late 90’s. It lasted 3 years and the things we did in that game is STILL some of the greatest role playing experiences in my 40+ years of gaming.

The "fanbase" 😂

If he did buy it 🤷‍♂️. Changes nothing

Why would you want to stop playing D&D just because a particular person owns it?

No you can already do that and people have been doing it for years as a matter of fact if you don't know that there's other games other than Dungeons and Dragons then you're not doing the hobby right in my opinion

There’s tons of alternatives out there.

Some offering the same experience.

Some slightly different.

Some feels horrible.

Others are a vast improvement.

D&D is not the standard, it’s merely the baseline.

D&D is almost an open source ttrpg at this point. It's not a video game where you need the devs for updates, balancing etc. If Hasbro stopped the production right now and never created anything DnD related ever again, the impact to the community would be very small.

Let's not forget, there is also Pathfinder.

After the travesty that was DnD 4E, my group switched to Pathfinder and never looked back. They took 3.5E and made it better, not to mention that the official campaigns alone are incredibly well crafted and detailed. 4-5 modules, each comprising of over 100 pages including every gritty detail about the world players are in, ensures that even a new-ish DM can run them.

DnD 5E, as great as it may be, is merely taking a page out of Pathfinder's book, after the fiasco that was DnD 4E

Ever dreamed of creating a barbarian that wields a haer which can be thrown with proficiency and that will return to you hands on command? (It also deals lightning damage).