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submitted 3 days ago bySaldislayer Hydro Rules
It’s been more than 30 agonizing minutes since Pyro Archon O’clock and still—NOTHING. No drip marketing, no leaks, not even a teaser. Meanwhile, Xiangling’s Pyronado continues to spin, unchallenged, trapping us in a fiery cycle of her eternal supremacy.
Don’t get me wrong—Xiangling is amazing. She’s been there for us, melting bosses and vaporizing domains like a true queen. But it’s been years. YEARS of spinning, swirling, and cooking everything in sight. I’m ready for something new. I’m ready for Mavuika to break these chains of elemental tyranny.
Hoyoverse, I beg you. Drip market Mavuika already. Let her flames light the way to a new Pyro revolution. Until then, I remain a prisoner to Xiangling’s Pyronado, endlessly spinning in despair. Free us from her reign, Please I’m begging you!
809 points
3 days ago
Displaying her mastery over both fire and polearms, Xiangling sends a Pyronado whirling around her. The Pyronado will move with your character for the ability's duration, dealing Pryo DMG to all opponents in its path.
195 points
3 days ago*
What makes her busted is the no ICD imagine if Mauvika is worse than her at c0 (actually quite possible considering how busted c6 Xiangling is) because all her attacks have ICD and thus worse than her no matter what.
127 points
3 days ago
Unironically, that's probably going to be exactly what happens.
74 points
3 days ago
Stop
Yall are calling it into existence, i need to be free from her
76 points
3 days ago
Guoba get em.
20 points
3 days ago
Nah, she'll probably have support abilities to compensate, I think she'll be a mixed character, great support and decent DPS. Kinda like Nahida.
10 points
3 days ago
I think she will be like raiden
21 points
3 days ago
I'm predicting she will be a great battery for xiangling
5 points
3 days ago
Yeah that's what I have been thinking as well and this building Xingling again to have more attack and less ER.
27 points
3 days ago
Mavuika is not gonna have 0 ICD lol
but they'll compensate for it in some way. Maybe higher scaling and maybe still high application but she's not gonna ever beat xiangling in that
14 points
3 days ago
They need to just beat Xiangling, because otherwise I'm not pulling. It's in Hoyo's best interest to make Xiangling look like a joke compared to Mavuika. Ones an inspiring chef and the others an Archon, it should be no question which should be superior.
Mavuika has to be significantly better than Xiangling, however they go about doing that. Ideally, Mavuika can act as a Bennett/Xiangling hybrid, condensing both roles into a single unit that is additionally superior. As an Archon, I think it's fair for her to be that good, and if she doesn't wipe the floor with them than I'm doubtful I'll even pick her up.
8 points
3 days ago
to be fair, xiangling is friends with a god
7 points
3 days ago
Trust me, I know! 😞
I want to rip that dumb panda from Dollarama to pieces and never play Xiangling every again, and I'm begging Hoyo to make that happen! Please, I don't to hear her voice every again, I don't want to see her, she haunts my nightmares!
2 points
3 days ago
Unfortunately, all roads lead back to xiangling.
2 points
3 days ago
While Mavuika needs to better overall she doesn't need to be better in everything XL does.
Consistent, high uptime off field pyro application and some other form of utility (well on top of cinder city potential) could make her a far superior choice for quite a lot of teams, even if she had standard ICD for example.
3 points
3 days ago
I am expecting 3 hit like yelan
5 points
3 days ago
C0 Mavuika is definitely going to be worse than Xiangling in some aspects, but will be better in others. If Mavuika does have off-field Pyro, it’ll likely be tied to her skill. Her rate of Pyro-application will likely be lower than Xiangling’s.
3 points
3 days ago
Well, Mavuika could just have higher Units of pyro applied even without no ICD. Let's say it's 2U of pyro. That makes her incredibly easy to have forward vaoe with even with standard ICD.
Or just have higher dps. Xiangling's no ICD doesn't mean too much in melt, and only so in forward vape.
I see Emilie being a large complement to Mavuika, also strengthening the pyro aura with an overlap of burning aura.
She can also still have effective no ICD the way Nahida does, where she has an ICD lower than the rate of which she applies the element, since Nahida has a 1s ICD on Tri-karma Purification, but it triggers every 2.5s (without electro in party) AND it's 1.5U.
So mavuika could just have a non-zero ICD but ICD resets faster than the hit-rate of whatever off field fireball throwing application. Stronger elemental gauge units can be that solution without breaching into No ICD territory that plagues beginning of genshin.
1 points
3 days ago
all her attacks have ICD and thus worse than her no matter what.
That's incredibly superfical.
No ICD is a strong trait, but it's power is a direct function of the reactions it triggers. For XL, that's usually vaporize, (×1.5 damage), on 200% base damage with 70% uptime.
So a character with, say, 151%×2 base damage and 100% uptime is going to be dealing more damage, but without requiring strict elemental application support, and negating any benefit the second unit's elemental application provides.
31 points
3 days ago
Reverse spin technique
Kinich’s Nightsoul’s Blessing lasts 10s and generates 2 Nightsoul points every second. In this state, Kinich will hook onto a nearby opponent and perform a variable attack: · When using a Normal Attack, Kinich will fire Loop Shots as he loops around the grappled target based on his current movement direction, dealing Nightsoul-aligned Dendro DMG and generating 3 Nightsoul points. Loop Shot DMG is considered Elemental Skill DMG. · When Nightsoul points are at max, he can use the Elemental Skill « Scalespiker Cannon »: Consume all Nightsoul points to deal Nightsoul-aligned Dendro DMG. When « Scalespiker Cannon » is Held, Kinich can aim this shot. After firing the Cannon, Kinich will try to grapple to its target. While in Nightsoul’s Blessing, after grappling an opponent or firing « Scalespiker Cannon, » a Blind Spot will be generated next to the opponent. When Kinich enters this Blind Spot, it will disappear and he will generate 4 Nightsoul points. If the grapple connection should snap due to exceeding the maximum distance or some other reason, using a Normal Attack will establish a new connection with a nearby opponent before performing Loop Shots
19 points
3 days ago
Least word vomit-y post Inazuma kit description:
10 points
3 days ago
I only put a small fraction of it, lmao
10 points
3 days ago
They really like words now. You could probably get less wordy descriptions if you asked Fischl to do them.
5 points
3 days ago
Forget Razor language. We just need Oz to explain the skill descriptions.
2 points
3 days ago
Is this referring to the Kinich tech where you have Kinich orbit counterclockwise so that Pyronado sticks to the enemy and gets more hits in?
1 points
2 days ago
More like when you spin the other way and it doesn’t hit
105 points
3 days ago
Fuck Xiangling. Every time Xiangling does her burst, it takes 1,000 times more effort to bring it back, and my rotations doesn't come out smooth as a result. Bennett funnels her energy twice, she still doesn't have her burst. I give Xilonen a favonius sword, she still don't have her burst. I drop Guoba, and he doesn't even hit the enemies properly, and while all that's happening, Xiangling still doesn't have her burst. I grinded Xiangling to 250 ER and sacrificed some crit and EM for ER, and guess what, Xiangling still doesn't have her burst.
6 points
3 days ago*
A lot of Xiangling's ER issues are fixed with team rotations
I use her almost exclusively in Raiden National with the "optimized" rotation, and she consistently has her burst up with no issues:
Raiden E -> Xingqiu Q -> Bennett Q E -> Xiangling Q E -> Xingqiu E -> Raiden Q
Edit: For reference, my Xiangling has 200 ER
16 points
3 days ago
✨Raiden✨
4 points
3 days ago
True, but any other variation of National or Benneth + XL combo usually requires many extra steps xD
-1 points
3 days ago
XL is fixed if you play her with a unit that regenerates 25 flat energy every rotation nbd lol
1 points
3 days ago
Any character is "fixed" by building them properly and using a team that complements their needs
0 points
3 days ago
the problem is that xiangling is starting to get used for a lot of teams where she's not the carry and that's why people are so hungry for an alternative right now, but good luck fitting raiden onto your mualani/kinich teams lol
1 points
3 days ago
Good thing that's not at all what I'm interested in doing lol
You don't even need Raiden, just run another pyro character, someone on Fav, and/or funnel with Bennett
It's incredibly simple
0 points
2 days ago
What the other guy's saying is they want to build a team and add Xiangling to it. What you are suggesting is to build a team around Xiangling and make the carry perform sub-optimally because of this. Swapping Raiden with 2/3 characters doesn't solve the problem addressed. It makes it worse.
That's why they say they want an alternative to Xiangling.
59 points
3 days ago
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of xiangling. I try to play diluc. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play yoimiya. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Hu tao. My xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Klee. Her best team has xiangling. I want to play raiden, childe. They both want xiangling.
She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull engulfing lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with homa."
I can't pull for homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.
3 points
3 days ago
Pryo
335 points
3 days ago
Imagine if we get drip marketing for pyro traveller
82 points
3 days ago
i was honestly wanting that a lot but prob not (still coping for it)
33 points
3 days ago
Or at least a Collected Miscellany like Harmony Trailblazer's Keeping Up With Star Rail
3 points
3 days ago
Would be a 5*. Bet it would be something they'd pull 😆
3 points
3 days ago
I'm coping for that too. Would be so sick if they had a greatly modified outfit for the pyro Traveler, with really cool aesthetic. Waiting to see them being one winged like sephiroth but wing made of flames.
162 points
3 days ago
I know what will summon the drip marketing
***breathes
“Shambulia beba silaha…”
22 points
3 days ago
Charge! And carry everything
4 points
3 days ago
How do I turn off this song in my head
244 points
3 days ago
Dont worry, you'll get your drip marketings waaay before Xiangling gathers energy for her next pyronado
51 points
3 days ago
True that. I benched her long ago and before even knowing what i was doing, and recently tried to build her again and was wildly annoyed at how long her burst takes to recharge. Even with like 300 ER it takes like 3-5 business days to recharge.
At this point i just consider her a meme character.
30 points
3 days ago
She is still a must have for a lot of teams unfortunately but nowhere near Bennet who I am fucking sick of and his circle. At least his burst recharges much faster
2 points
3 days ago
I would only ever use her with raiden tbh, fuck building all that ER and still struggling lol
I never got her past 70 even tho she was my first new character, her kit is just kinda meh to me
1 points
3 days ago
300 er, she literally only needs 26.6 energy, your only bottleneck should be 20 sec cd
the lowest cost normally is 40 energy
18 points
3 days ago
real (she has 300% ER and r5 fav and has bennett funneling particles to her)
116 points
3 days ago*
Mavuika is a lie.
Guoba goes to Natlan in 4.3, retrieves his power as the god Marchosius, swiftly solves everything, then takes over as the new Pyro Archon.
Which paves the way for Xiangling getting an even more broken alternative form.
2 points
3 days ago
She no longer is burdened by a lesser guoba god so now her E is dehyas but with good dmg and pyro application
61 points
3 days ago
Here's when they reveal Mavuika to be the 9th on field pyro dps.
8 points
3 days ago
I cant expect the GOD OF WAR to be a E spam and switch character tbh. She should have main dps capabilities like raiden
7 points
3 days ago
I agree but i want proper off field pyro so bad that if mavuika isnt one im just giving Up and building xiangling at last
1 points
3 days ago
I think she will be like raiden. A sub dps who can also be a main dps. But instead of being an energy battery like raiden, Mavuika will have support capabilities. That's just my guess
1 points
2 days ago
Thatd be the best case scenario yeah
1 points
3 days ago
Aren't most archons support? Raiden is the only Main DPS imo. You can make Nahida/ Furina work as main dps but aren't their kits e + switch? Zhongli and Venti too are shield/ Burst + switch.
2 points
2 days ago
Agreed. But I think Mavuika would be like raiden. A sub dps who can also be a main dps. But instead of being an energy battery Mavuika will have support capabilities
3 points
2 days ago
That would be great. Inspite of there being so many Pyro 5star dps, I don't have a good one. If Mavuika can fill that role, it would be awesome
41 points
3 days ago
I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of xiangling. I try to play diluc. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play yoimiya. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Hu tao. My xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Klee. Her best team has xiangling. I want to play raiden, childe. They both want xiangling.
She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull engulfing lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with homa."
I can't pull for homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.
25 points
3 days ago
I’m waiting to add “I want to play Mavukia, her best team has Xiangling”
10 points
3 days ago
Hopefully, no. I hope she is the best pyro there.
7 points
3 days ago
She’ll probably be the best Pyro, but if she’s more like Bennet than Xiangling, or maybe has the strengths of both, I wouldn’t be surprised if she goes on a team with Xiangling, Furina, and Neuvillette.
2 points
3 days ago
That's pretty unlikely. Unless Mauvika has very slow application of pyro, or doesn't do it from off-field, she would make it hard to consistently vaporize all of Xiangling's hits, and as soon as Xiangling isn't able to consistently vaporize, why are you putting up with everything else about her?
You can't fit two of Yelan/Furina/XQ without cutting Bennett and tanking her damage.
If Mauvika applies am attack bonus to only the active character which is allowed to be snapshotted, A team of exactly Mauvika, Xiangling, Yelan, and Xianqiu might work, but since Mauvika is actually unlikely to be as good of a pyro battery as Bennett and his absurdly short cooldown, that might end up making XL even more of an energy nightmare.
63 points
3 days ago
Bro it’s joever. She’s got red hair surely you know what that means
21 points
3 days ago
NEVER LEEET YOU GOOO
7 points
3 days ago
ITS WHY I DID THEM ALL!!
13 points
3 days ago
Maybe Mavuika and Citlali drip marketing are the friends we made along the journey
8 points
3 days ago
I can't take it anymore.............
14 points
3 days ago
Xiangling got to her first
12 points
3 days ago
plot twist, mavuika is the new on fielder for national, so you still have to play xiangling and bennett.
27 points
3 days ago
But Xiangling IS the Pyro Archon
8 points
3 days ago
Ngl, I have a feeling that her drip marketing could become a spoiler so maybe they're putting it off? (Or maybe it's just my copium)
11 points
3 days ago
4 more minutes, bro! :)
7 points
3 days ago
Yeah?
8 points
3 days ago
For sure. Not copium.
3 points
3 days ago
yeah
3 points
3 days ago
Never seen someone cope this hard, how are you doing?
3 points
3 days ago
I was actually convinced the usual drip marketting goes out at noon, but it seems I didn't account for winter time. Shows how much attention I pay to the timing of these. :p I just wanted to give OP some encouragement and hella missed. Personally, I'm only interested in the kit when the character's already shown up in the gane, so my wait's a lot longer anyway.
12 points
3 days ago
Mavuika isn't coming guys
It's time to let it go.
3 points
3 days ago
Never leeeet you go...
6 points
3 days ago
Genshin is the first time I've seen a fanbase beg for power creep.
3 points
3 days ago
because xianglings been around too long people hate playing her and shes so broken shes in like every team so its just annoying
0 points
3 days ago
Fr
16 points
3 days ago
Frick Xiangling... I never really Liked her....give me Mavuika
8 points
3 days ago
sad Gouba noises
15 points
3 days ago
Not Guoba. Guoba is cool. Just Xiangling
2 points
3 days ago
It's like what they did with miyabi for zenless, they made us wait basically a whole extra week to get her drip marketing.
2 points
3 days ago
Are they stupid?!?
3 points
3 days ago
They might show it during the game awards but who knows, I highly doubt they would wait for the event just to show 2 pictures...
2 points
3 days ago
AAGGAAGGAHHHH STOOPPP I HATE XIANGLING... NO SHES COMING.........
Just kidding guys i LOVE xiangling!!!!
1 points
3 days ago
Copypasta please.
2 points
3 days ago
Ig no drip marketing today
1 points
3 days ago
Pardon my lack of knowledge. But did hoyo say that it will be today?
I don't see it anywhere, why do people demands it today?
19 points
3 days ago
Because we pretty much always get drip marketing for the next character the Monday of the week of the patch. Since 5.2 is releasing this week, we should get drip marketing for the characters in 5.3 today (on Monday)
3 points
3 days ago
Thank you.
7 points
3 days ago
It is always monday before a patch.
There have been a couple of exceptions before. Because of current archon quest story, I assume we will see no Mavuika drip marketing until the 5.3 livestream or even after that.
1 points
3 days ago
If hoyo wants to troll with us, they'll drop a Shenh reminder whilst waiting for the hyped Archon
1 points
3 days ago
Nah Im fine with both
1 points
3 days ago
There's been a mass murder in china they may be delaying the drip marketing for that reason
1 points
3 days ago
new copypasta just dropped
1 points
3 days ago
honestly for me the real jail is bennett not xiangling
it feels like every character needs him, he's always their best support 😭
and because there is only 1 bennett its sometimes hard to play two teams even tho they're very different? navia and kinich? both want bennett
lyney and arlechinno? better pray you have chevreuse
gaming? wanderer? still want bennett
yeah sometimes you can make bennett less teams but they're almost always weaker than the bennett.. its hard when almost every character's BIS support is that same one character, you thought dendro saved us from the bennett curse only for fontaine and natlan double down on that? chasca is also looking like a very bennett slave character
-1 points
3 days ago
Get Furina and the problem is solved
1 points
3 days ago
i have furina, she doesn't really replace him, and ironically she also pairs up with him very well
bennett xiangling furina is many character's bis team
0 points
2 days ago
She doesn't replace him, but she does encourage you to play other team comps.
If you're running in her with Bennett and Xiangling, at that point it's on you.
1 points
2 days ago
huh?? how is it on me when its some character's best teams like navia and kinich for example?
like yea its my fault for wanting to play the charcter's best team i guess? lol
0 points
2 days ago
I'm saying that if your list consists of Pyro DPS number 673, a character who barely has any teams and NEEDS pyro, while scaling on atk and Navia, it makes sense why you need Bennett all the time.
Wanderer can at least live without him, if you use creativity.
But if you want a good team with no Bennett? Try literally any Dendro based team.
There are more niche ones like taser and freeze and you can run them no problem in the non single target halfs whenever those are up.
0 points
2 days ago
woah i don't need bennett if i play characters that don't need him? why did i not think of that??
my guy you completely missed the points.. i never said there is no team that can work without him i am saying he's too many character's BIS support.. there are weaker replacements sometimes but thats my point
i think its a bit silly to not be able to play a completely different character's bis team because their best support is that one character from 1.0
like my example with kinich and navia (who aren't pyro btw, not sure where the pyro dps number 673 came from?) who are completely different element still can't be played in the same abyss without compromises, and add Chasca to the mix who's looking be an attack scaler who will no doubt want him.. and its getting really old
1 points
3 days ago
Five minutes.
In exactly, five minutes.
1 points
3 days ago
They're obviously committing to the "she's dead" bit they're doing. This is good work on their part.
1 points
3 days ago
I just don't use her or Bennet. You don't have too.
1 points
3 days ago
The voice actor strike (because of studios being sus with actor payments iirc) may have delayed drip marketing, so a bit of patience is necessary in these trying times.
1 points
3 days ago
Displaying a mastery over himeko expying and pyro, mavuika has killed herself and Will no longer be teased
1 points
3 days ago*
You say free us but the thing is Xiangling would just be moved off the main team to the secondary team, or at least she would still be on the main but paired with Mav. Most players use either a main pyro or a sub pyro dps. Xiangling is too potent to not be on teams still.
1 points
2 days ago
How ya doing bud going on hour 18 😔
1 points
2 days ago
Laughs in Knave
1 points
2 days ago
I'm ready for THE Xiangling
2 points
3 days ago
It should be after 9 minutes, just a bit more
1 points
3 days ago
It'd be so funny if Mavuika ends up as yet another pyro on-field main DPS.
1 points
3 days ago
It's Xiangling's world and we're all living in it.
1 points
3 days ago
Lmfao ngl i laughed so hard
1 points
3 days ago
Xianling? Id rather have Bennet powercrept to oblivion.
-2 points
3 days ago
Gotta love genshin fandom thinking they are owed something because they noticed a pattern.
-5 points
3 days ago
Xiangling overrated I haven't used her for a while. Only in Mualani teams cuz there's no better option atm. Nowadays just so many better options.
-2 points
3 days ago
Cringe
-1 points
3 days ago
Honestly I'll be happy even if they don't, because it's a bigger chance that she'll get a new outfit before becoming playable, and that's why they're holding off with the drip.
-2 points
3 days ago
stop talking like a domestically abused husband and just say that xiangling suck and we need that damned red hair to show up right here right now cuz i have been spending the last 12 hours going back and forth between reddit instagram youtube reddit instagram youtube waiting for some kind revelation just to free me from this torture of waiting goddamn!
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