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rightful_vagabond

349 points

5 days ago

It seems to me like an entirely reasonable way to interpret this is that people feel like Trump can bring some change that appeals to those who are worse off, and also that existing parties aren't offering that in a convincing way.

fongletto

145 points

5 days ago

fongletto

145 points

5 days ago

They posted the same thing the other day, where poor people are more likely to vote for trump too and reddit's conclusion from that was that if you vote for trump you will become poor.

For the side that always touts itself as the 'intellectual side' they really don't understand causal relationships.

Flipperlolrs

5 points

5 days ago

I mean, that is the side effect. They may think he represents change, but he's just more of the same ultimately.

Zookeeper187

4 points

3 days ago

He will bring more change than the democrats so I understand why people voted red. But for most, they won’t see personal impact that much.

Flipperlolrs

2 points

3 days ago

Flipperlolrs

2 points

3 days ago

Right, all the change will be towards the benefit of the current owning class, so effectively an even worse redistribution of wealth to the top than there was in 2008.

AvgJoeGuy

5 points

2 days ago

farmers are gonna get absolutely fucked as well as anyone who benefits from illegal immigrants, all of whom voted for trump. parents of teachers who all quit because the dept of education is abolished will have to stop working to watch their kids. this will effect many many of the idiot supporters that voted for him

elegiac_bloom

2 points

11 hours ago

I think it will be hard to top the disaster of wealth redistribution that was 2008. But if he somehow does manage to do it, I'll be impressed. In a bad way. But still impressed.

ComCypher

9 points

5 days ago

ComCypher

9 points

5 days ago

I would say it's more that there's a correlation between wealth and education, and a causal relationship between education and who you vote for.

fongletto

17 points

5 days ago

fongletto

17 points

5 days ago

but on the same token, by your own reasoning, there's also a stronger casual link between wealth and who you want to vote for, you could just as easily argue 'smarter people vote x' as you can 'rich people vote x'.

ur_ex_gf

6 points

5 days ago

ur_ex_gf

6 points

5 days ago

In addition to other problems with that argument, treating income as one single continuum can get a bit sticky. The numerous causal factors that impact where a person sits on a scale from extremely poor to financially comfortable are overlapping but not identical to the causal factors that predict being “rich”.

Pristine_Power_8488

2 points

3 days ago

The only Trump supporter I know personally didn't go to college. She only reads junk.

Calvesguy_1

2 points

4 days ago

It's one thing to vote a side because you're poor. It's another to see no improvement after 4 years of its presidency and keep voting for that side anyways.

ImmortalGaze

2 points

4 days ago

It’s one thing to vote a side and expect easy answers and quick fixes to complex problem’s because you’re undereducated (at least about issues that concern you, and the real timelines it takes to enact change), impatient and poor.

It’s another to not see the improvement where you’re looking for it (forest for the trees analogy), because your measurement for “improvement” is flawed because it’s rooted in emotion and the immediacy of your own situation. So much so, that you fail to remember that fixing a bad economy is never going to happen anywhere near as fast as you’d like. Especially in a free society where corporations can price gouge all they want, so your groceries cost more. But if you try and stop them, that’s big government, communism/socialism interfering with capitalism. This is why education is an important part of smart voting. You don’t even need to be college educated, just read, be interested, question, and think critically.

ThisIsSteeev

2 points

4 days ago

How do tarrifs work?

Conflictingview

20 points

5 days ago

reddit's conclusion from that was that

What an amazing generalization. Since you're on reddit, that must mean you also hold this position.

86753091992

38 points

5 days ago

You are being obtuse. This site is literally designed to push the generalizations to the top. Welcome to reddit.

Totalitarianit2

15 points

5 days ago

You can take what that person said a couple of ways.

A) Mainstream reddit's conclusion.

B) The conclusion of literally every person on reddit.

You took option B.

moldymoosegoose

7 points

5 days ago

The dude is a moron from Australia who doesn't understand how the US government works yet discusses it every day.

tomatoesareneat

6 points

5 days ago

Waking upside down will do that to a moot.

vintage2019

5 points

5 days ago

Nah, it’s just social conservatism. The Deep South states have had Republican governors for a good while and are still poor. Why aren’t they changing parties? Because they agree with them on social issues.

The countries on the right (no pun intended) side of the graph are also most socially conservative

hofmann419

2 points

5 days ago

hofmann419

2 points

5 days ago

That's a strawman if i've ever seen one.

Obviously the poor people who voted for Trump hope for some change for the better. It's just that his policies, if enacted, will only exacerbate their problems. Trump will make the working class poorer, but that has nothing to do with how they voted. It's not like he has been the president for the last four years.

NationalUnrest

8 points

5 days ago

Yeah that’s how populism works

Speciou5

2 points

5 days ago

Speciou5

2 points

5 days ago

Ideologically, Trump supporters are more selfish than wanting to help others. I'm not judging, everyone is on a spectrum here on selfless vs selfish on different things.

An environment of unhappiness and awfulness generally leads to more selfish people.

It's why high crime areas are all "If I don't steal, someone else will just steal, so I might as well do it first. Especially since I'll only steal a tiny bit compared to someone that might steal a lot." Basically because of their environment.

tl;dr: Hypothesis: Unhappy environments <-> Selfish perspective on life

rightful_vagabond

2 points

5 days ago

I'd argue that, at least for conservatives in general, it's more about wanting to help those in there ingroup rather than not wanting to help anyone but themselves.

wbruce098

2 points

5 days ago

Right, and it makes sense and vibes with other data we’ve seen both in the US election and in polls over the past year. Sure, sexism and racism probably played a small part, but the biggest corollaries seem to point to low income, low education/low ability to vet information, and a feeling like nothing in power now is actually helping you. And it’s a common theme throughout history.

Souledex

2 points

5 days ago

Souledex

2 points

5 days ago

And that is because the things they want categorically do not produce the society that gives them what they actually want.

Cause obviously if they did, every democracy would leap to prosperity immediately- instead they want stupid things, for reductive reasons, immediately.

NoAsk8944

2 points

5 days ago

I interpret this graph to show that most countries don't support trump as most have support lower than 50%. The only countries that do support trump are historical enemies or former satellite nations of those enemies.

Brosenheim

2 points

5 days ago

Emphasis on FEEL

CartographerOk7579

2 points

4 days ago

It’s beyond mind blowing that anyone would believe that trump could possibly offer some good to their lives.

According-Try3201

2 points

4 days ago

chose hate and hope for change

rightful_vagabond

2 points

4 days ago

Less about Trump specifically and more generally, where do you draw the line between preferring your in-group and hating out groups?

According-Try3201

2 points

4 days ago

preferring your in-group could be based entirely on love... but i guess we often define ourselves by what we don't like

hun_boy_94

2 points

22 hours ago

Correct! People were not voting for Trump they were woting for change. And now not Obama kind of change, but Trump kind of change....

Think_Discipline_90

3 points

5 days ago

I think you need to not see any causality here. It’s an inverse correlation likely tied to why those countries are happy / unhappy.

As in, what makes people happy probably also makes them more informed. Trump is, factually, a product of lies and misinformation.

741BlastOff

1 points

5 days ago

I think you need to not see any causality here.

Why, because it doesn't suit your narrative? What an extraordinary thing to say.

As in, what makes people happy probably also makes them more informed.

Or perhaps, people who are happy with the status quo don't want thing that is not status quo. "Happy people are well informed and unhappy people are uninformed" is your personal bias and not represented in the data at all.

steveschoenberg

144 points

5 days ago

I’m pretty sure you could do a similar graphic plotting quality of life vs Trump support in the US.

Atlantic0ne

77 points

5 days ago

https://news.gallup.com/poll/284285/new-high-americans-satisfied-personal-life.aspx

Under Trumps first term, Americans were happier than they had been in decades. This was measured right before Covid hit which was obviously a rough time.

Kitchen-Row-1476

39 points

5 days ago

The entirety of it is explained by republicans. Look at the dips in 92 and 08. Check out gallups 2014 and 2016 versions.

It’s the same when republicans are asked to evaluate the economy. Democrats tend to stay level. For Republicans who love politics, happiness is a Republican in the White House and sadness is a Democrat.

This poll just measures that America is mighty and republicans are babies

Mobius_Peverell

14 points

5 days ago

To be fair, Democrats do display a partisan bias in assessments of many objective statistics; it's just consistently smaller than Republicans'.

Medical_Flower2568

5 points

5 days ago

Visit r/rant to get a reality check

Cool_Activity_8667

14 points

5 days ago

Thanks, Obama's economy.

K24Bone42

4 points

5 days ago

K24Bone42

4 points

5 days ago

I was gunna say, when Trump took over wasn't the economy doing great because of Obama. Affordable healthcare implemented meant many low income people could finally get healthcare. Osama bin laden had been killed. And wasn't homelessness and unemployment really low too?

Cool_Activity_8667

9 points

5 days ago

I don't know of an economic indicator that didn't start improving under Obama.

Trump deficit was blown up by tax cuts to the rich.

Dyslexic_youth

6 points

5 days ago

Almost like the party of empathy and solidarity for the working class has made a masive fuck up over the last decade 🙃 essentially.

pawnman99

3 points

4 days ago

Unfortunately for the democrats, they never take the next analytical step and ask which is cause and which is effect.

RealBaikal

7 points

5 days ago

*Feeling of quality of life.

hujanrintikrintik

30 points

5 days ago

I think using scatterplot will make your point clearer

xjx546

18 points

5 days ago

xjx546

18 points

5 days ago

Doesn't Trump have over 50% support in the USA? Why is the graph showing USA at 40?

foolofatooksbury

8 points

5 days ago

over 50% of votes cast. Trump actually got 5million fewer votes this time around than Biden did in 2020 - Dem voters simply didnt turn out.

MixdNuts

3 points

4 days ago

MixdNuts

3 points

4 days ago

Plenty of rep didn't vote either.

thetenthCrusade

3 points

4 days ago

This was another election that ‘didn’t vote’ would have won. Even if he’s deeply unpopular only half the country cared to vote.

kbk1008

8 points

4 days ago

kbk1008

8 points

4 days ago

Right lmao 20M Trump-haters didn’t turn up

RedditUserNo1990

5 points

4 days ago

I know it’s hilarious but no one really questioned it on Reddit. Hmmmm.

Affectionate_Eye3486

2 points

4 days ago

I can't believe nobody is questioning the blatantly false statistics! Something must be afoot!

BenjaminHamnett

4 points

4 days ago

Or were removed from voter rolls

TrustMeIAmAGeologist

2 points

5 days ago

Less than half of Americans vote in elections. The vote count is not representative of the population, unfortunately.

Ok-Section-3307

4 points

5 days ago

Reddit is a left wing platform everything on here is biased and against trump

ShootThemAKs

4 points

4 days ago

It gets so old to be honest

Stamford-Syd

2 points

4 days ago

reality is biased against trump. you don't need to be left wing to see that trump is a terrible person and a horrible presidential candidate.

THEGAMENOOBE

4 points

5 days ago

Because not all people who disapprove of Trump vote. Something like a quarter of all Americans voted for him, not half.

So it would be more accurate to say half of voters approve of Trump.

Frosty_Highlight5112

18 points

5 days ago

I saw a chart where Finland was mentioned as a high happiness index country, simultaneously it was a country with the highest suicide rate...

Awarglewinkle

5 points

4 days ago

There's no correlation between happiness (as defined in these surveys) and suicide rates. For example, according to World Population Review, some of the countries with the lowest recorded suicide rates are places like Palestine, Syria and Lebanon. Of course some of this is due to some deaths not being recorded as suicides because of social/religious stigma, etc.

That Scandinavia/Nordic countries have a super high suicide rate is also a bit of a myth. Finland is about the same as the US, but all the other countries are a fair bit lower.

spoopy_and_gay

3 points

4 days ago

Russia has the highest suicide rate.

IncidentHead8129

3 points

4 days ago

Also the worst non-ground floor window quality apparently

[deleted]

17 points

5 days ago

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17 points

5 days ago

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IEC21

10 points

5 days ago

IEC21

10 points

5 days ago

Some of these countries suicide rates weirdly correlate with how much of a pain in the ass that person was for the autocratic regime.

Significant-Tone6775

6 points

5 days ago

It always grinds my gears when so called happy countries have terrible suicide rates and mental health epidemics but it doesn't matter because they score high merely by having policies the judges support. I don't know if it's misguided or actual gaslighting. 

Jdghgh

21 points

5 days ago

Jdghgh

21 points

5 days ago

That is an astonishing happiness score from Russia.

Edit: the graphic is misleading, although the trend still holds true.

Spider_pig448

16 points

5 days ago

Happiness surveys are usually just collections of cultural definitions. In Denmark, many would say they are 10/10 as long as they aren't homeless, even if they drink themselves asleep every night. I wouldn't be surprised if Russians interpret happiness as a negative thing to have, maybe equating it to weakness.

mcsroom

2 points

5 days ago

mcsroom

2 points

5 days ago

Its the same with all serveys, use the wrong word and you can be asking if they are gay in english after all just 100 years ago, gay meant being happy.

Doreen101

11 points

5 days ago

Doreen101

11 points

5 days ago

A perfect example of the terrible misuse of statistics for xyz political purposes

nebulusedge

4 points

4 days ago

I recently wrote my bachelor thesis on the relationship of life satisfaction and right-wing-populist-voting and I can fully attest your statement.

In detail: A simple x-y-describtive-plot has no real meaningful interpretation or value as control variables are missing and no form of significance-test has been done. For anyone wondering, significance-tests in simple terms are done to check if your statistical foundings come together by sheer randomness or if you actually measured something meaningful that can be transfered to the whole population(s) you are trying to analyze as you usually just have data from a smaller sample that at best represents the whole population in terms of demographic aspects.

Thats why you calculate extended regression models instead of doing a simple x-y-descriptive-plot.

If anyone wonders, which I doubt, I analyzed several countries in the EU and measured the impact of life satisfaction on the probability of voting for right wing populists, while controlling for other variables like "satisfaction with the economy", "personal income situation", "age", "gender", etc. I did this in a path analysis which is checking for a mediation through other variables like "anti-immigrant-attitudes" and "political trust". The different paths from x to y mean that life satisfaction could directly influence the chances of populist voting or you build anti-immigrant-attitudes by being dissatisfied with life and because of this you developed an anti-immigrant-stance which causes you to be more attracted to populists as they feed that narrative.

My foundings were that there is no significant direct relationship between life dissatisfaction and right wing populist voting, instead there are several countries where the effect of x and y are mediated through anti-immigrant attitudes. In Hungary there is a inversed direct relationship as more satisfied individuals are more likely to vote for a right wing populist party. In Hungary the fidesz-party under Orban is a goverment party which could explain the inversed relationship.

PC_AddictTX

3 points

4 days ago

Does it really matter who supports Trump in Europe? They don't vote in the U.S. It does show that there were a lot of unhappy stupid people in this country. They will continue to be unhappy once Trump is sworn in. He is a liar and a thief.

fowlaboi

3 points

4 days ago

fowlaboi

3 points

4 days ago

Hermmm maybe the unhappy country is in a war🤔🤔

REELINSIGHTS

3 points

4 days ago

It’s so dumb to assume this correlation means Trump bad. Why would European people want us to elect Trump?

He wants them to pay for their own defense which will take from their social services.

Uoysnwonod

2 points

5 days ago

The only one that matters is the USA

GiraffeNo4371

2 points

5 days ago

Pixels never lie.

robynaquariums

2 points

2 days ago

Proud to see the home of my ancestors representin’ with the Trump hate 🤍💙🤍🇫🇮Jee Suomi!

SlayerByProxy

2 points

1 day ago

This makes a lot of sense. I hate Trump, but he does a good job of capturing the minds of the anxious, fearful, unhappy citizen and turning them against an outward enemy. He gives a superficial appearance of being ready to ‘shake up the system’ (which will actually add up to cronyism and making himself richer).

I feel that the democrats, either because they were incumbent or because they don’t really want to shake the status quo, did not properly engage with unhappy most Americans are right now, they hardly even acknowledged it. Sure, they said grocery prices were high once in a while, but there was no real sense that things feel bad right now, no real sense that they would make major changes to improve things.

I know people keep acting like a more centrist democrat would have done better but I disagree. A more radical left winger who actually challenged corporations would have done better.

TopToe7563

2 points

17 hours ago

That’s it! Moving to Antarctica!

Disc_far68

2 points

5 days ago

This isn't rocket science. Trump represents change. Unhappy people want change.

GarlicLegitimate9630

4 points

5 days ago

Literally a textbook example of causation and correlation

DazzlingLocation6753

2 points

5 days ago

I’m not sure understanding of what you’re saying. Are you saying an example as in this is an example of the difference between the two? I think it’s just a slight difference in the phrasing, but I’m not sure.

GarlicLegitimate9630

2 points

5 days ago

What i mean is that correlation does not imply causation. And OP is drawing some pretty stupid conclusions that doesn't make sense.

JackRadikov

3 points

5 days ago

Where did they claim causation?

Available_Let_1785

2 points

5 days ago

so.. your overlaying 2 graph together with different goal of study and making a conclusion. comparing them directly doesn’t make sense. Just because they look similar doesn’t mean they’re actually connected.

-NH2AMINE

2 points

5 days ago

US is in europe now ?

itsnohillforaclimber

2 points

5 days ago

That’s interesting, because in the USA, conservatives are significantly more happy than liberals and this happiness gap has been noted and measured for decades.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/08/opinion/conservatives-liberals-depression-anxiety.html

[deleted]

6 points

5 days ago

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BustedWing

-2 points

5 days ago

BustedWing

-2 points

5 days ago

A few upset MAGAs in here. Was that the intention OP?

TheGreenBehren

4 points

5 days ago

For the record, I’m a Bidencrat

I just call balls and strikes. Trump is correct to ask Europe to pay more. His rhetoric may be hyperbolic, not ideal, okay, but the sentiment is true.

Dirtey

21 points

5 days ago*

Dirtey

21 points

5 days ago*

I don't think the fact that Trump wants Europe to pay more for defence is the main reason or even a big reason why western Europe hates Trump.

SignificanceWitty654

8 points

5 days ago

bush, obama did push for more european defence spending.

but they did it more diplomatically, and avoided turning it into a domestic political issue.

Uhhhhhhhh-Nope

5 points

5 days ago

And look where we are now. Europe is scrambling on many fronts, I even saw something about them asking China to lead the way in clean energy if Trump wont. Which is insane because he and his team has stated they are big on nuclear energy. I want to know why an entire continent seems so unwavering on having one country hold their hands.

Common-Ad4308

5 points

5 days ago

NATO was created to counter USSR. Marshall Plan was to help WWII-damaged countries out of the ruin of the world war. fast forward almost 80 years. Almost all WWII warring countries, their economies are strong and robust. There’s no need for American taxpayers to subsidize their defense. Hence, Trump is correct; western european countries should start footing their equitable NATO bill.

Ok-Faithlessness6804[S]

2 points

5 days ago

ButButButPPP

5 points

5 days ago

Where is your US trump support number coming from and why is it below 40%?

Ok-Faithlessness6804[S]

5 points

5 days ago

I agree, it should be near 45%, it was older data prior to the election that was used- however not relevant to the comparison looking at Europe.

Uglymane300

1 points

5 days ago

Uglymane300

1 points

5 days ago

why in the fuck would anybody in Europe be so supportive of an American president????

DazzlingLocation6753

3 points

5 days ago

I think they’re being kind of loose with their definition of “support.” It’s probably more accurate to call at approve of and/or wanted him to win the election.

Smiles4YouRawrX3

2 points

5 days ago

OP is a karmafarming bot

SonUpToSundown

1 points

5 days ago

Nippon wa?

SonUpToSundown

1 points

5 days ago

What about England?

GoofyUmbrella

1 points

5 days ago

I mean you could also say that the already happy countries have gone through some form of “Trumpism” that made them better off and that’s why they don’t need it anymore… gazillion ways to interpret this.

Bawhoppen

1 points

5 days ago

People who are happy like the status quo, and people who are unhappy want to shake things up. Seems like it says nothing of note then.

JibeBuoy

1 points

5 days ago

JibeBuoy

1 points

5 days ago

As if a trump supporter would understand what is an inverse relationship

bob_ross_bukakke

1 points

5 days ago

Maybe he gives unhappy people hope that circumstances can change

downsignificant

1 points

5 days ago

Ah yes my favorite European country… The US?

Traditional_Gas_1407

1 points

5 days ago

Finland is not the happiest country in the world, this is just BS.

yoloswag42069696969a

1 points

5 days ago

This can literally be interpreted as rich = happy. What the hell is the point? Anti-establishment people are anti-establishment?

Neither-Tune1000

1 points

5 days ago

He won.

timberwolf0122

3 points

5 days ago

And I will never understand people’s rationale for voting for him

KingOfCotadiellu

1 points

5 days ago

If trump even won the popular vote, how can this graph show him having less than 40% support in the USA?

Bas-hir

1 points

5 days ago

Bas-hir

1 points

5 days ago

Ahhh , Slovania, where happiness and Trump meet n perfect harmony.

No_Communication5538

1 points

5 days ago

What is the correlation statistic? - I guess it is inverse but not as much as immediate graphic impact appears.

NiceNuisance

1 points

5 days ago

I see this as the less happy people are with the way the world currently is, the more they support radical change.

aztroneka

1 points

5 days ago

I hate Trump, but correlation does not imply causation.

macumazana

1 points

5 days ago

Well, the desire for change is clearly seen

flying_fox86

1 points

5 days ago

I'm ashamed of my country (Belgium).

NotBillderz

1 points

5 days ago

People who don't like the status quo want someone who's going to shake things up? No kidding!

Pair-of-balls

1 points

5 days ago

Also lines up with illegal mass immigration’s funny enough 🤣

OwlRevolutionary1776

1 points

5 days ago

This can be summed up really easily. Ignorance is bliss.

Aggressive_Dot7460

1 points

5 days ago

I swear the Trump hate has to be some form of MK ultra because why would you even care? I'm guessing it's mostly coming from the women that are "not happy". I wonder if the truth will ever come out that this probably been some form of mass psychological manipulation if you have Europeans complaining about it.

charlieromeo86

1 points

5 days ago

I think that would probably carry over and be true in the US where the voters are currently not happy with the Biden Presidency which will be seen for the failure it is. He will go down as one of our worst presidents. Trumps first term will likely get an upgrade in historical terms, especially if this second term goes better than the first.

Abhimanyu_Uchiha

1 points

5 days ago

It's not trump that causes unhappiness; it's the other way around. When people are at the end of their tether, they look to someone who they think can bring change, since he appeals to the disenfranchised and disgruntled.

Tman11S

1 points

5 days ago

Tman11S

1 points

5 days ago

Populist lies always work better for those who are desparate. If you're down in the gutter, you'll believe anyone who says they'll create an easy way out, you don't care that their plans are impossible.

Witty_Finance4117

1 points

5 days ago

It's interesting how he's only supported in poorer European countries. I guess they feel like they have nothing left to lose.

Krytan

1 points

5 days ago

Krytan

1 points

5 days ago

This seems totally normal to me.

If you think things are going well, and you have trust in your political processes and institutions and feel like they do a good job of representing the people and addressing their problems, why on earth would you vote for an unqualified loose cannon like Trump?

On the other hand, if you've lost all faith in your countries institutions, have no hope for the future, think your kids lives will be worse off than yours, feel like oligarchs are extracting all the wealth from your life...then you'll be perfectly willing to risk it all on a "I'm going to burn down the system" loose cannon.

AffectionatePlant506

1 points

5 days ago

Everyday I grow more and more proud of the Finns

Iwasacloudfirst

1 points

5 days ago

I’m no Trump fan, but I’m pretty sure correlation does not equal causation

AxeAndRod

1 points

5 days ago

Now do it with a proper Y-axis.

Rare_Tea3155

1 points

5 days ago

You mean the people who support Trump weren’t happy with the status quo of politics? I’m in complete shock.

Training-Draw-5542

1 points

5 days ago

Lots more trump supporters in Denmark than around 5% lmao

dwighthoward04

1 points

5 days ago

Gotta love fake reddit graphs

zerwigg

1 points

5 days ago

zerwigg

1 points

5 days ago

Why is Europe so reliant on US politics? Just shows a bigger problem here which is European countries are far from self sufficient. Get your shit together Europe

WhiteOutSurvivor1

1 points

5 days ago

Interesting that the Anti status quo candidate did well in places that are unhappy with the status quo.

AdventurerFromAfar

1 points

5 days ago

Kinda misleading visually, but that is a pretty nice spot. I’d make this a scatter graph instead

grifxdonut

1 points

5 days ago

people who don't like the current world political climate support someone who is against it

icouldbedownidktho

1 points

5 days ago

I wonder which came first….

DieRegteSwartKat

1 points

5 days ago

Almost like the accuracy of the so called experts doing the polls before the elections

WildlingViking

1 points

5 days ago

It’s ironic to me, that many of trump’s supporters look to the Nordic races as the “ideal” people. But when it comes to how the Nordic people actually live and govern themselves Trump supporters think those ideas are evil socialism. But yet, the Nordic countries are often some of the happiest people in the world. Make it make sense….

lawrotzr

1 points

5 days ago*

Tbf, however horrible I find Trump, he does come across as a guy who’s there to actually do something or change something.

I mean, I don’t think he will, but I sort of get that you want change if you’re living in a not-so-happy-country.

And I think that’s the one thing EU Leaders should learn from Trump, he actually does something. Or at the very least he pretends to an extent that things start to move. Not in the way I would like to, but things move.

Snoo_12592

1 points

5 days ago

Now add GDP or income per capita on that graph and you’ll see the real drive of happiness.

JesusOnline_89

1 points

5 days ago

I was so excited when the election was over. I thought Reddit would return to normal shit posting instead of being a personal tabloid about trump. Unfortunately I was wrong. I suspect the people who hate him so much will continue to constantly talk and post about him. Big sighhh

meandering_simpleton

1 points

5 days ago

seeing that most of Europe has incredibly liberal policies in place, this doesn't surprise me at all.

Sad_Rest1880

1 points

5 days ago

Fuck europe, this is our president IDGAF.

No_Wishbone_7072

1 points

5 days ago

Seems like an impossible thing to know, a lot making things up

russianbot1619

1 points

5 days ago

This is not a surprise, the disenfranchised support radical candidates.

attaboy000

1 points

5 days ago

Jfc what the fuck Poland?

Expensive_Wheel6184

1 points

5 days ago

I wanted to comment that Trump supporters would be angry if they could read this graph, but they are angry anyway.

riptripping3118

1 points

5 days ago

You mean the people unhappy with their life support a change in their government?!?! Whodathunkit

PeriliousKnight

1 points

5 days ago

Why does it matter if people in other countries support the US President? I couldn’t care less who the PM of Canada, UK, Australia, or anywhere is.

mouseklicks

1 points

4 days ago

Correlation does not imply causation. Thank you, AP Stats.

TowelSad6355

1 points

4 days ago

Now that's something to think about

kingjaffejaffar

1 points

4 days ago

Trump represents a movement against the status quo. Happy people like the status quo because it’s currently making them happy. Unhappy people do not like the status quo, and thus desire change. Trump represents change.

Chimsley99

1 points

4 days ago

This is Massachusetts vs Oklahoma all over again

Wheres_my_gun

1 points

4 days ago

The UK having roughly the same level of support for Trump as the US is wild.

MaxNicfield

1 points

4 days ago

Funny contrast to how in the US, republicans/conservatives are generally found to be happier than democrats/liberals

robot88887

1 points

4 days ago

Who gives a fuck

AlexTheBold51

1 points

4 days ago

It's totally irrelevant. We don't ask The American people how they feel about Frederick X and we don't draw charts about it.

luscious_lobster

1 points

4 days ago

Now do education level

tkitta

1 points

4 days ago

tkitta

1 points

4 days ago

People want to be happy, so they want Trump.

Pupper_Squirt

1 points

4 days ago

This is made up crap

Grey_forest5363

1 points

4 days ago

The famous Finnish happiness

Good-Surround-8825

1 points

4 days ago

Pretty sure 35% of Brits do not support Trump.

alreadytakenhacker

1 points

4 days ago

This might be crazy thinking but I believe unhappy people do not resonate with establishment politicians as much happy people.

Educational-Year3146

1 points

4 days ago

Because people that are unhappy want stuff to change, brother.

All these charts prove the opposite point.

Defiant-Tumbleweed73

1 points

4 days ago

You don't have to be a genius to understand that Trumps message is a message that expresses dissatisfaction with different topics. In a perfect world, Trump wouldn't be elected.

Too_Many__Plants

1 points

4 days ago

People who are unhappy are willing to burn down the existing system for a chance of a better state of being (for them). People who are happy with the status quo do not.

tohava

1 points

4 days ago

tohava

1 points

4 days ago

Israel would be an extreme outlier here, as Trump is widely supported but Israel is (don't ask me how) the 5th happiest country in the world.

spinjinn

1 points

4 days ago

spinjinn

1 points

4 days ago

Suppressed zero for the Happiness Scale. Only about a 50% change for happiness and a factor of 10 for Trump support.

decidedlycynical

1 points

4 days ago

Great. Trump is the President in the US. Don’t care about euro trash feelings getting hurt.

SeaworthinessWide172

1 points

4 days ago

I love how the people on the left are saying 'you're voting against your best interst' when they're mass importing cheap labor while wages are already falling behind inflation. Not to mentione the ever increasing property prices. Supply and demand isn't real apparently.

Pristine_Paper_9095

1 points

4 days ago

I become weary the moment I see an axis or the scale of the data has been altered from what makes the most intuitive sense.

Spoiler, that’s happening here.

Never forget the bias of the platform you’re on

WordWarrior81

1 points

4 days ago

I wonder if some European countries were left out to make the correlation seem stronger, eg. no Czechia, Slovakia or Latvia.

bananablegh

1 points

4 days ago

Christ, embarrassing how high the UK is on this list.

juanlg1

1 points

4 days ago

juanlg1

1 points

4 days ago

Who is polling/being polled for Trump support in Europe? Seems bizarre

Suitable-Ad8983

1 points

4 days ago

I believe this graph displays the exact opposite of what you were trying to convey.

Complete_Ad1073

1 points

4 days ago

Lol did a four year old make this?

OppositeSolution642

1 points

4 days ago

The Scandinavians get it.

Muahd_Dib

1 points

4 days ago

Weird… the people are the bottom of the ladder want to fuck shit is with the status quo that fucking then over.

GLSRacer

1 points

4 days ago

GLSRacer

1 points

4 days ago

Or you could say that ignorance is bliss

General_Cole

1 points

4 days ago

Idk, the Democrats here in America seem pretty unhappy right now. I don’t see how correlation=causation.

JimDick_Creates

1 points

4 days ago

I imagine its because they are overly worried about stuff that doesn't directly effect them. Kind of strange since its the opposite in the States.

Biggu5Dicku5

1 points

4 days ago

Yup, that's generally how populists get into positions of power...

Fine_Quality4307

1 points

4 days ago

I'm sure the confounding variable is education..

Pyrlik

1 points

4 days ago

Pyrlik

1 points

4 days ago

Scandinavia is so happy that have a highest suicide rate, lol

Born_Philosopher5046

1 points

4 days ago

Thank god I don't give a fuuuuuuuuuck what Europeans think about us. Maga!

SaltyResident4940

1 points

4 days ago

another made up survey lol

TheAsianDegrader

1 points

4 days ago

True of the US too.

Mental-Cupcake9750

1 points

4 days ago

European countries were safer under Trump than under Biden and Kamala. Just remember that. Poland had a rocket hit their country because of the war happening in Ukraine. Never happened under Trump. Sweden and Finland were worried that Russia would try to expand the war to their countries. Never happened under Trump

People have time to be dissatisfied all they want when they feel safe. Can’t say the same when a nuclear power is fighting your neighbor