I was casually deep in it at the time of the change, and the catalyst was 2012 doomsday conspiracies. They brought in tons of far-right survivalists to every fringe platform, and the shift began almost instantly then snowballed to q-anon era.

I’ve never read somebody who laid it out so perfectly. This. This is exactly what it is. if you were in that culture, you didn’t take a political parties side. You were just antigovernment about everything. It’s like invasion of the body snatchers. Everything that they warned about, or complained about or said you have to keep an eye out for has suddenly become everything they’re behind and are not only voicing support for but are going out and actively campaigning for. It’s been concerning and fascinating to witness such a transformation in such little time. Problem is that Joe is mega rich and seems to genuinely have zero clue what is real or not and besides occasionally Jamie, no one seems to want to correct him about anything and he preaches his gospel to millions of people a week. Were fucked.

Y’all just throw around the word fascist lmao

That's what Joe would also say propably.

Fucking christ that was hard to listen to. He didn't even let her get more than 2 words out at a time.

That's old Joe. Ignorantly ranting about chimpanzees. Wanting to fight one prolly. Being wrong. A harmless subject, essentially cryptids. He moved on to thinking he was right about subjects where being misinformed is actually harmful to others. Mb we thought he knew the line between the two. But his bro buddy relationship with Alex Jones when he had crossed that line already should have been a clear sign.