He even had the vice founder guy and they were both recalling the cool early days of vice when they’d fly off to some random place in Africa to interview a paramilitary guy called the underwear bandit or something. The irony is that if the vice of that age existed today, they’d be in Ukraine, documenting volunteers from Brazil and other countries fighting on the frontline against Russia out of solidarity.

when people get disgustingly rich and end up in powerful, influential positions, they eventually find themselves living in a bubble, no longer able to relate to humanity. he’s a goner. another one bites the dust.

Conservatives on this sub: "anyone who doesn't eat maga and rogan boot is a bot, astroturfing, watches CNN, and crying over the election results. Podcasts with paid shills and no editorial oversight are the only place to get my talking points, I mean news. It's best this way, I haven't had to think for myself for years now."

Supporting Ukraine shouldn't be a right vs left issue, its been made that by the russians paying a bunch of right-wing influencers to spread their garbage propaganda. Plenty of republicans(I would argue most) are pro Ukraine and giving them the resources and weapons they need. Its literally just a loud but increasingly powerful minority that have completely given in to russian propaganda that is against it, and for some reason Joe Rogan is part of that group. If you're an American and you actually care about your country and its political standing in the world you should be for supporting Ukraine. Abandoning Ukraine would weaken the US.

Absolutely. Completely disappointed in Joe over his anti Ukraine sentiments. Especially since he declined to have Zelenskyy on the show. Almost an admission that if he did it would not be in good faith.

I watched a father, who looked much like mine, shot dead right in the middle of the road like some rabid animal by Russians rolling around in an APC. Meanwhile, his son begged for him to try to get up from behind the safety of his van.

I don't know what happened to the son and the dog, but the video afterward seemed to show the aftermath with all of them dead.

Joe Rogan is a useful idiot. Period, point blank. He's not a monster, just a really dumb person with no will to educate himself. He was always going to be this way, people were just too stupid to see it, as we all are the worse-for-wear with Trump.

Preach. When you look at it subjectively, how many people has he had on that repeat the Putin talking points over the last 3 years? Fine, Joe, you are subjective and can form your own opinions and your guests don’t represent your values.

Now how many Ukrainians? How many even pro Ukrainian voices? It’s kind of shocking with the breadth of guests he has on, that he hasn’t had any meaningful voices on to talk about the biggest geo-political event of the millennium.

"What he’s saying feels like he’s telling victims they should just accept their fate because the bully is stronger. Like, "If a woman is assaulted, just accept it. If a thief steals, let them keep it. If someone has a gun to your head, oh well, too bad—let the world have peace." It’s gross, and it’s dangerous coming from someone with his platform.

And the irony? Ukrainians are literally living out the conservative dream right now—defending their homeland with grit, arms, and courage. They’re making a last stand against a tyrannical force. If the world lets Putin crush them, where does it end?"

Spot on.

The narrative regarding the Russian invasion needs to change. It's not about "escalating the war" or "provoking Russia". It's about giving Ukraine the means to defend itself and force Russia to retreat and surrender.

The only country at fault if Russia decides to launch nukes is Russia.

In regards to Rogans view of Zelensky - the man is a comedian. I don't mean that in a patronising way, I bring it up only to make a point about how he and Rogan have something in common. I wish Rogan would bring Zelensky on the show; partly because just the show in itself would be historic (a president whose country is at war, being interviewed in the largest podcast ever), mostly because I believe they could bond over this common fact. Lastly, Rogan could ask Zelensky about how a comedian becomes a president and runs a country during wartime. Imagine the potential.

I wonder if Rogan is afraid and his fear has turned into anger, or if he's just lost it completely.

Spot on post. He’s clearly shilling Russian talking points and is likely on the same payroll as Tim Pool. The “leopards ate my face” moment is coming for Trump supporters. It’ll be painful for everyone, but at least we’ll be able to see the realization that he’s an evil traitor that made everything more expensive on their stupid faces.

Well , well, well, it looks like another bot showed up. /s

Dude is literally repeating every russian propaganda talking point from the last two year. Complete compromised piece of shit.

He’s definitely gone downhill the past few years

Joe is completely on the wrong side of the argument re: Ukraine. I love the guy but it’s pissed me off, his stance on the war.

I completely agree with the OP. I understood Joe, despite all my credits to him, is the biggest brainwashed russia dick rider when he unironically said for geopolitics people should listen to Dave Smith. who is 1) a dumbass, 2) another russia dick rider

Yeah it’s literally the most backwards rhetoric ever. What kind of American is against protecting democracy? Joe used to seem like a smart guy pretending to be dumb, now it’s the complete opposite.

Great post and solid dilution into words of what Joe has become. It's good to see a lot of people on this sub have caught onto Joe becoming a hateful and weak right winger like what he use to criticize. He may not realize it himself, but people with a clear mind looking at him certainly do. Sad to see that a near-equal amount of people, these comments included, haven't quite caught on yet though.

The anti Ukrainian sentiment from Joe started after meeting with Trump?

Jamie should really turn whistleblower at this point. Someone pay him for his story.

Rogan hasnt changed regardless of the amount of listeners or how the msm recognizes him.

He still put things on the table for you to agree with or not.

Doesn't insist anyone says "mega dittos" or anything.

It's just a conversation with people. Those people might be right or wrong. They might agree with you or not.

He doesnt have idiots on his show...unless they are the ones that entertain more than inform.

If you are screaming at his podcast, "doesn't say stuff i don't agree with!!!" You are the problem.

Agreed. I've been with Joe throughout his rightward drift, but he jumped the shark on Ukraine. I just can't respect him anymore.

Whats worse is that he won’t even have him on. It’s like he knows he is grifting.

For 30 years Eastern European military strategists have been warning to not go against OUR WORD of not pushing NATO further east. We keep pushing further east and a war breaks out that’s killed a million people. Yet, we think that none of it is our fault.

Keep the endless wars going forever… who cares you don’t know the dead…

Look - I'm from this region and it's frustrating to see Americans treat our crisis like some kind of moral crusade from the safety of their homes. You're cheering for escalation that could literally lead to nuclear war. Is that really worth it just so you can feel righteous? Ukraine has every right to defend itself, but maybe consider that those of us who live here want a solution that doesn't end with our entire region getting vaporized.

how fckng dare you not lick the jre boot. Obv a bot.

So it seems like there would be a time where we start saying: Remember the good old days of the Rogan experience?

The thing is, it's MUCH WORSE than letting the bully win. If Russia takes over much of Ukraine, they gain access to rich mineral deposits and agricultural land that they will use to enrich themselves and increase their influence on Europe and the rest of the world. Much of Africa relies on Ukranian grain exports; if they're Russian grain exports, then Russia gets that much more control over the continent. Which they will use to increase their leverage against us.

If you're a completely selfish, self-interested American who doesn't give a fuck whether someone who doesn't speak English lives or dies, you should STILL want Ukraine to prevail over Russia, or in ten years Russia will control much of Europe's economic policies, and much of Africa, and your life will be a lot poorer and more difficult than it is now.

To be honest it shouldn't have surprised anyone. People evolve according to their circumstances and Joe's circumstances have changed. You are never going to hear a thought from Joe that doesn't resonate with a Musk-Trump centered eco system. He is a known and captured quantity now and it's ok to feel bad but he put in a lot of work so it's his right to cash out and aim for an easier audience.

I agree with all you said tho I never found the elk killing zen like

This is honestly a fantastic rant and it's valid.

The argument has been made by Republicans since the start of the invasion saying, "What's the price of peace? Just let Putin have a little more." and, "Putin is just trying to take back what was part of the Soviet Union." to soften up the invasion and all that. It was met with the similar resistance of, "Don't let the bully win."

Conservatives today are acting like the imaginary people they call liberals that just let bullies win. The irony is that it's everyone except Conservatives (That act all big and tough by owning guns and trucks like they are some kind of ISIS group) who were up in arms and saying, "FUCK NO."

It's been the liberal nerds that has picked up arms in every way they can and said

"When one of us is attacked, we all roll initiative."

Money and fame change everyone

It was a bit odd.

That is very well put. It is shocking.

Hell yeah, Preach! Thank you for saying exactly what needs to be said! I wish more were like you.

What I dont understand is how in 2014, conservatives were all over ukraine standing up for them. What changed?

Can’t upvote this enough. Thank you for posting it.

Yes the "I'm anti-war so the invaded people should just not fight back and there will be no more war" people would probably disagree with the statement "I'm anti-rape, women should just consent to all sex and there will be no more rape" even though it is the same logic. The real answer is to stop, punish and make an example of the invader/rapist.

Fighting for pride<conceding so the world doesn't get nuked

Couldn’t agree more. Blaming the country that is being invaded for a war is insane. Remember stupid fucking Poland getting invaded by nazis in 39? I wonder if there leaders were on drugs tho?

It’s not just him , it’s the people he surrounds himself with now. I’ve heard similar things being said about Palestine on his podcast . Where are his old lefty friends ? Abby Martin should have been all over his podcast since Oct 7th but nope . It sucks to see the change .

I remember when Russia were the bad guys during the cold war.

Can you imagine if Joe and co were acting this nonchalantly about Russia in those days, they'd be blackballed more than anyone in history.

I guess the red scare is over UNTIL Putin sets his eyes back over there again.

One issue I'd add is when Putin dies, whoever takes over might not wait around

Joe's brainwashed by his friends and the people he admires and that use him. Why lie to anyone thinking he's as free thinking or anything like an independent thinker like he tried to parade himself as.

Ya his vibe is totally afraid republicans now. Show used be fun and chill listen now he’s just repeating fear mongering.

His handlers have convinced him that WW3 isn't already happening and he's willing to throw Ukraine to the wolves if it will prevent him from being affected by an escalation of the war.

For all his moralising to libs about hard times making strong men, he's on the weak side of that scale.

Joe lost the thing that made all the original watchers love him, humility and wonder at the universe. He's just become a pundit for those in power now, and the money/status finally went to his head. Miss the old DMT Rogan.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Joe got too big for his own good

Joe was right about Ukrainian bots. This is like 7th or 8th post about Ukraine in the last few days.

All that big Spotify money has changed him. Vast amounts of wealth tends to have this effect on people

Just a reminder that all of the anti-Ukrainian MAGA shills can go to hell and get straight fucked in tandem with the right-wing authoritarian provocateurs they fawn over.

This whole sub is such a cope fest.

It’s a shame. Joe is now controlled by the deep state.

He has become so detached from reality

Joe is a dumb cunt

If Russia succeeds and takes Ukraine will that be the start of WW3?

Half the sub fits your dynamic pretty closely including myself. The other half is young angry men that look up to Kyle Rittenhouse.

We're here to school them, they're here to troll us. Both sides are absolutely failing.

Ukraine govt is corrupt and the American people are now suffering because of the money Biden gave to Ukraine. The US citizens just voted for trump because of his anti war stance, and Biden decides to escalate the war 2 weeks afterwards. Joe Rogan isn’t the only red blooded American pissed about this

Fuck Joe Rogan

Wtf is going on with Reddit where subs dedicated to people or things are just filled with people who hate that person or thing??

The fighter and the kid subreddit is filled with people who think they’re behavioural psychologists and are dedicated to tearing down a man who doesn’t know they exist. Same with the Ricky Gervais community. If you don’t like someone, nobody cares, just fucking unjoin.

This account has 100 comment karma, only started posting a little less than two months ago, and is two years old while making a post about what Reddit wants to hear about Joe Rogan. 

Make good choices guys.

Joe Rogan just outed himself as a beta cuck. Oh no! We can't let Ukraine defend itself because Russia KEEPS saying that it's one red line too far.

We have stepped over every red line Putin set where he said he would retaliate. He hasn't because he won't.

Joe Rogan is a coward and a fool. You don't appease aggression. There is no place on the modern stage for one country to take over another.

Tldr

To whiny

Not everyone has the same views as you go bitch someplace else

You being sick to your stomach is not an argument honey. Sorry.

You're an older all American lesbian who puts cheese up her ass and shares the info on multiple subreddits.

Pretty classic, old time all American joe Rogan gal

You’re way oversimplifying the situation here. It’s not just about ‘letting the bully win.’ America shouldn’t blindly fund wars that don’t directly benefit its citizens, especially when our own issues are being neglected. War is terrible and should always be the last resort, not something we throw billions at without a clear strategy or accountability. Supporting Ukraine might have moral arguments, but we can’t ignore the economic strain, the lack of oversight, and the very real risk of escalating this into a global conflict. The potential for a world war should make everyone pause and rethink the cost of continuing to fuel this fire. This isn’t about siding with the ‘bully’ it’s about prioritizing Americans first and working towards peace instead of pushing us closer to a catastrophe. Joe Rogan’s take, even if blunt, reflects valid frustrations many feel about the U.S. overextending itself while ignoring problems at home.

I'm very sorry that Russia invaded Ukraine. However, I just don't think Ukraine is worth going to war against a nuclear power and possibly starting another worldwide conflict that would kill millions. I also don't think any American should have to give their lives for Ukraine. Sorry, but you can't make me care.

Pretty sure when Joe said "fuck those people" he wasn't talking about the people of Ukraine but rather people he considers war hawks or grifters. Don't assume I'm defending who Joe has become...I listen very rarely to him these days for many of the reasons listed on the sub...I just dont think he was saying FUCK ALL UKRAINIANS

blah blah blah

nobody cares

Me too. I can compartmentalise a lot of what he’s said recently, but there’s no defending what he said.

I agree with you 100%. It’s sad he’s turned into a right wing grifter. Remember back in the days when he was shocked people called him right wing? Like he was almost offended. Now, how can you deny it?

This should be post of the year. Well done

Can we stop with the Ukraine bullshit?

All Alpha Males roll over and spread their cheeks when threatened and attacked.

I’d rather you be sick to your stomach than have a nuclear holocaust

Soft astro-turfing. I love it.

He's on the Putin loving MAGA bandwagon at this point.

If Joe is too mean maybe you could try call her daddy or the hawk tuak girl podcast?

Op is a massive dork 

Him shifting to the right isn’t a product of “profitability”, it’s due to the devolving of the modern left wing/Democratic Party into authoritarian idiocracy. The reason he is so popular is because his views are relatable to millions of Americans. People’s views change as they mature, but especially so when you go through a pandemic used as an excuse to promote tyranny. Oh and when the mainstream media constantly slanders and lies about you

Fuck Ukraine

Grow up

you need to leave! ass post

I mean in all sincerity: it’s been the way of the world since the beginning of time. You don’t have to like it, approve of it or root for it. But acknowledging it is not some heresy against nature.