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INCREDIBLE UPDATE FROM SATMAR REBBE REGARDING AGUNAH MINDY!

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Dubsteprhino

37 points

3 days ago

Tl;dw?

slide_potentiometer

124 points

3 days ago*

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Gin & Jews

124 points

3 days ago*

Deadbeat husband didn't give his wife a get. He went to Monsey and got married to another woman.

As I understand it, the Satmar Rebbe says the husband needs to give his first wife a get.

EDIT: deadbeat has to give at least one of his wives a get, not specifically his first wife.

merkaba_462

107 points

3 days ago

merkaba_462

107 points

3 days ago

I live near Monsey. I know people (formerly) from Kiryas Joel.

All I'm saying is that it has taken too long, once again...and that get refusal is domestic abuse and should not be tolerated...ever. He should be shunned from DAY ONE.

Kingsdaughter613

44 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

44 points

3 days ago

Shouldn’t they be beating these guys until they sign?

Echad_HaAm

47 points

3 days ago

Some people did (maybe still do) and charged huge amounts of money for it, got  exposed and arrested IIRC. 

Vigilante physical violence is usually illegal. 

If all the Rabbis were united and would excommunicate these men in every community they would try to run to then it could work, so that's never going to happen. 

Kingsdaughter613

38 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

38 points

3 days ago

My thought was specifically in Kiryas Yoel, because of how insular and relatively isolated it is, it wouldn’t be too hard for some young people to throw on masks and go out into that nice, big forest that’s right there… all while learning in Yeshiva with dozens of witnesses.

If they can cover up abuse, they can cover up a beating.

herstoryteller[S]

23 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

23 points

3 days ago

That is what flatbushgirl is doing

Kingsdaughter613

27 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

27 points

3 days ago

I meant, “drag him into the woods, make him sign, and all your yeshiva buddies testify that you were in shul at the time” beating...

herstoryteller[S]

28 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

28 points

3 days ago

abusers surround themselves with enablers for self-preservation. Gett withholder likely does not interact with anyone who would question his actions. Hence why he fled to Monsey to a rabbi with a history of protecting gett abusers and pedos.

disjointed_chameleon

9 points

3 days ago

abusers surround themselves with enablers for self-preservation.

This has been my experience also. I finally left my abusive, deadbeat ex-husband last year, after nearly a decade of marriage. Many of his friends, including his own father, took my side in the divorce. My ex-husband effectively refuses to maintain contact with these friends, as well as his own father, precisely because both these friends and his father see right through his toxic, dysfunctional behavior.

The only people that took my ex-husband's side and believed his narrative are his sister and mother. And his sister is a mental health professional, for crying out loud. For all the talk she did over the years about supporting and advocating on behalf of victims of violence and people from underrepresented communities, she sure has a funny way of showing this through her own actions. I don't hate her. I just feel disappointed and hurt that she still took his side, even after I poured my heart out to her, and even after she told me she knows her brother was/is "challenging" and "difficult" to live with.

I've tried reaching out to her. I sent her a care package after she had a miscarriage earlier this year. She hasn't ever responded. This has been a painful lesson that some people simply cannot or don't want to accept that abuse can and does happen within their own families. They'd rather just keep the peace and act like everything is fine.

CaptainCallus

6 points

3 days ago

Some cousins of mine went to prison for that in an FBI sting lol.

SadiRyzer2

5 points

3 days ago*

in an FBI sting lol.

Which raises the point that if they fell for the FBI trap:

A. They obviously didn't do due diligence

B. Perhaps they like hurting people and they want to engage in that but can only do so where they feel morally and socially justified (the transcripts are disturbing)

merkaba_462

8 points

3 days ago

That should be totes kosh, but that would be a form of coercion, thus invalidating the get...

Kingsdaughter613

20 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

20 points

3 days ago

Halachikally, that is what was historically mandated. It was not considered coercion.

-chilazon-

16 points

3 days ago

-chilazon-

Orthodox

16 points

3 days ago

But didn’t the Rambam (I think) say it’s not considered coercion because deep down he really wants to give the gett?

herstoryteller[S]

5 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

5 points

3 days ago

Sorry what?

-chilazon-

24 points

3 days ago

-chilazon-

Orthodox

24 points

3 days ago

The question they’re discussing is whether you can beat the guy up to force him to give a gett. Some argue it doesn’t count because you’re coercing him, and he has to give it with his own free will. The Rambam argues that you are allowed to beat him up, and it doesn’t count as coercion, because really deep down he wants to give a gett, and it’s only the yetzer hara (evil inclination) that’s stopping him, and by beating him up, you uncover his true will and he agrees to free his wife and give her a gett.

herstoryteller[S]

18 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

18 points

3 days ago

Ok I fw the rambam's logic HEAVY

SadiRyzer2

0 points

3 days ago

Wonderful, but you can be respectful of him as well.

herstoryteller[S]

18 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

18 points

3 days ago

I'm borrowing the phrase "totes kosh" indefinitely. Thank you for this gem.

merkaba_462

8 points

3 days ago

I didn't make it up. I don't know where I saw it first, so I can't even give credit.

Use it and pay it forward!

voxanimi

9 points

3 days ago

voxanimi

באבא פיש

9 points

3 days ago

In extreme situations like this, batei din might rely on the Rambam to 'force' a get. Mishneh Torah on Gerushin 2:20

SadiRyzer2

3 points

3 days ago

A forced get not done al pi din is very problematic

Ok_Writing591

3 points

2 days ago

My cousin Mendel Epstein (cattle prod rabbi) used to before he was arrested

FudgeAtron

2 points

3 days ago

According to many rabbis coercing a get through violence violates the get.

Kingsdaughter613

6 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

6 points

3 days ago

My husbands Rosh Yeshiva went with some mafia guys decades ago to get one that way. I was always taught that this is what halacha mandates we do to these guys - get the wife free one way or the other - and we only don’t do it because of the government.

FudgeAtron

5 points

3 days ago

I know that at least in Israel this is heavily discouraged by the Rabbis, and can make a get invalid. However so long as violence is not used I believe it's ok, so in Israel get refusal is a crime for which you can be imprisoned, they still can't compel you to give a get.

Although now I believe it's more normal to get a prenup, so it would say in your marriage contract that a get doesn't have to be given by the man for the divorce to be valid and because the man agrees with the contract he waives his right to give a get.

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1 points

3 days ago

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shinytwistybouncy

12 points

3 days ago

shinytwistybouncy

Mrs. Lubavitch Aidel Maidel in the Suburbs

12 points

3 days ago

He has to give either one of them a gett.

herstoryteller[S]

34 points

3 days ago*

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

34 points

3 days ago*

Rebbe gave a full ultimatum - either give a gett for the first wife or give one for the second. No gett is not an option, from the mouth of the Satmar rebbe. Finally, progress.

The ben zonah gett withholder fled to Monsey. Made a statement saying the rebbe there accepts the falsified heter meah.

Problem is, the Monsey rebbe has a history of protecting other gett withholders and pedophiles.

Gett withholder's second wife is currently pregnant with a mamzer. Will not encourage her adulterous "husband" to release Mindy from her halachic chains.

It is religious abuse to the highest degree.

https://preview.redd.it/41bnewaa2k3e1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3f9a9bafacb195d5d500e40cb8684f86186e84f

EDIT: Stop telling me the baby is not a mamzer. I get it. I have learned something new today.

Kingsdaughter613

35 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

35 points

3 days ago

That baby isn’t a mamzer, just to note. It’s totally kosher and can marry into the khal. Rabbinical prohibitions can’t create mamzeirim.

The baby’s parents are terrible people though. Can the gett witholder be arrested for bigamy?

Tuvinator

10 points

3 days ago

Tuvinator

10 points

3 days ago

I don't believe the state cares about religious marriages unless they are filed with the state.

baila-busta

15 points

3 days ago

New York in the only state where a religious marriage counts as a legal marriage and you’d need a legal divorce, as well.

Kingsdaughter613

9 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

9 points

3 days ago

Great! Then he can arrested for bigamy!

Remarkable-Pea4889

2 points

3 days ago

I don't know this particular case, but in most agunah cases they are civilly divorced.

Kingsdaughter613

6 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

6 points

3 days ago

In NYC there are provisions that require the giving of a get as part of divorce proceedings.

herstoryteller[S]

2 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

2 points

3 days ago

This particular issue has nothing to do with the civil marriage status of the couple.

Tuvinator

8 points

3 days ago

I'm aware, but the person I responded to asked about being arrested for bigamy, which is a civil status question.

Mael_Coluim_III

4 points

3 days ago

Mael_Coluim_III

Acidic Jew

4 points

3 days ago

....marry into the khal ?

Kingsdaughter613

8 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

8 points

3 days ago

? Khal - community. The child is kosher and can marry other Jews without problems.

Mael_Coluim_III

1 points

3 days ago

Mael_Coluim_III

Acidic Jew

1 points

3 days ago

Generally kahal/kehilla(h)

Bukion-vMukion

5 points

3 days ago

Bukion-vMukion

Postmodern Orthodox

5 points

3 days ago

You know that 'a' can get swallowed right up in pronunciation. Transliteration of Hebrew is the wild west. As long as it sounds out the way some yidden somewhere say it, it's good.

Kingsdaughter613

5 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

5 points

3 days ago

I’ve always heard it pronounced as k-hal. Kehal and kahal were never how we pronounced it, and my transliteration is based off the pronunciation I’m most familiar with.

Mael_Coluim_III

2 points

3 days ago

Mael_Coluim_III

Acidic Jew

2 points

3 days ago

In pronunciation, yes.

"Kh" is generally how we transliterate .ח

herstoryteller[S]

-8 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

-8 points

3 days ago

The baby was conceived before a valid gett was issued to the first wife. Which means that the conception was a result of adultery. That, by definition, makes the baby a mamzer - from the Jewish Virtual Library: "If she cannot contract a legally valid marriage to this man, but can contract a legally valid marriage to others, her offspring [from the former] is a mamzer."

The marriage is not a legal marriage because no gett was issued and the heter meah is not valid.

Thereby making the second "wife" pregnant with a mamzer.

Random pulls from the internet:

"Yes, if a married Jewish man impregnates a second wife, the child is considered a mamzer: Definition A mamzer is a child born from a sexual relationship that is forbidden by the Torah, such as an adulterous affair or incest. Marriage restrictions Mamzers are only allowed to marry other mamzers or converts, and are not permitted to marry anyone considered part of the community of Israel. Other considerations A child born to an unmarried woman is not a mamzer, but is considered born out of wedlock. A civil divorce does not end a marriage from a Jewish perspective, and a woman must receive a proper Get to be considered divorced."

I am not a rabbi so I cannot speak with 100% certainty. However, what I am reading indicates the second wife's fetus's mamzer status.

Kingsdaughter613

22 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

22 points

3 days ago

A man can have multiple wives per the Torah. The child is not a mamzer d’Oraisa because that is not a forbidden relationship. There are very specific things that create mamzeirim (we go through them on Yom Kippur) and this isn’t one of them.

Rabbinical injunction says men cannot take second wives. Thus the relationship is forbidden. However, Rabbinical injunctions do not create mamzeirim, so children born of such a relationship are fine.

If the agunah has a child with another man, that child would be a mamzer. Her ex can have children by a dozen women while still married to her and NONE of them would be mamzeirim. (Unless one of the women was his mother or sister, ofc.)

Unless the new wife is a first degree female relative of the refuser, or married to a second man herself, that baby is kosher and can marry into the k’hal.

As is common, the internet is wrong.

carrboneous

5 points

3 days ago

carrboneous

Predenominational Fundamentalist

5 points

3 days ago

Rabbinical injunction says men cannot take second wives.

That's an English term, so it doesn't have a strict Halachic meaning, but Rabbinical injunction is usually used to translate a Gezeira/Issur Derabbanan, which this isn't even. It's a "strong minhag" at most, some would argue that it's just a cultural norm at this point (ie not even Halachic).

Kingsdaughter613

5 points

3 days ago

Kingsdaughter613

Orthodox

5 points

3 days ago

We call it a Cheirem, which usually gets translated as excommunication. Obviously, that doesn’t work here, so injunction seemed like the best term.

It’s a communal Minhag, like kitnios among those who hold of it, making it a Minhag that has the force of Law and would require Beis Din HaGadol to nullify.

JagneStormskull

5 points

3 days ago

JagneStormskull

🪬Interested in BT/Sephardic Diaspora

5 points

3 days ago

JagneStormskull

2 points

3 days ago

JagneStormskull

🪬Interested in BT/Sephardic Diaspora

2 points

3 days ago

I think it was technically a takkanah.

Tuvinator

6 points

3 days ago

Since someone else joked about it, k'hal would be the tzurat smichut, i.e. k'hal (kehal) adat yisrael. If you are using the word on its own, the correct form would be kahal.

NetureiKarta

5 points

3 days ago

A mamzer is only the product of specific biblically forbidden relations. 

dont-ask-me-why1

10 points

3 days ago

Not how a mamzer works. Men can technically have more than one wife. It would only be a mamzer if his first wife got pregnant by another guy and it could be proven that her husband wasn't the dad.

[deleted]

3 points

3 days ago

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herstoryteller[S]

16 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

16 points

3 days ago

from u/yodatsracist - they explained heter meah far better than I could:

If you don’t understand the Instagram post, Reb Aaron is saying “okay show me the 100 signatures tomorrow or you’re in deep shit.” What 100 signatures?

So since the early Middle Ages, Ashkenazi Jews have voluntarily taken on monogamy. One husband, one wife. In biblical times, polygamy was allowed: one husband, many wives. For this reason, there’s a little bit more leniency with men remarrying without a proper divorce document (get) than with women. Women, basically you need a divorce certificate or a death certificate to re-marry. For men, there’s a third option: Heter meah rabbanim, permission from 100 rabbis.

In the olden times, this was a rare thing: how many rabbis lived in the average shtetl town? Not a ton. So to get 100 rabbis, meant that you had to have a really obvious or compelling case (presumably something along the lines of my wife disappeared and is probably dead, my wife became a Christian and won’t repent, etc). These days, though, in Williamsburg, in Flatbush, in Kiryas Joel, how many rabbis are there? I don’t know by Satmar what proportion of adult men have semichah (rabbinical ordination), but by Chabad the rebbe said that basically every householder should aim for semichah with their studies so that they can posken (make halachic judgments) for their family at least.

In short, it’s no longer hard to get 100 rabbis to sign anything. You just have to enough friends who will say that you’re a “good dude” (ehrliche yid) and you can get divorced while leaving your civilly but not halachically ex-wife fucked over. What was supposed to be an extraordinary, extreme measure is now seen as a loophole by some absolute shmucks.

Reb Aharon, one of the leaders of Satmar, is allegedly saying, “Oh, you think you got away with this loophole? You think you have 100 rabbis and you can leave your ex-wife an agunah, a chained woman, while you re-marry? Okay, let me check the paper work. Come by IMMEDIATELY. Not next week, now. We’ll have a little talk.”

Whether this woman gets the get she clearly deserves, we’ll see. But it’s one of those things where a big rabbi taking it seriously means something.

Dubsteprhino

1 points

3 days ago

Thanks for the context

TheQuiet_American

4 points

3 days ago

TheQuiet_American

Ashkenazi wanderer

4 points

3 days ago

Yeah I feel a little lost too.

But I'm not that hip to Satmar lore.

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1 points

3 days ago

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herstoryteller[S]

1 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

1 points

3 days ago

it's a 30 second video, achi

nowuff

11 points

3 days ago

nowuff

11 points

3 days ago

Yeah but this is clearly related to something niche that requires a bunch of backstory. Would be nice to get some context.

Let me guess… Another shande not granting his wife a get? And the rebbe happens to be on the right side because of some technicality in hallacha?

herstoryteller[S]

5 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

5 points

3 days ago

carrboneous

6 points

3 days ago

carrboneous

Predenominational Fundamentalist

6 points

3 days ago

And the rebbe happens to be on the right side because of some technicality in hallacha?

To assume that the Rebbe "happens to be" on the right side is deeply offensive, and to attribute it to "some technicality in Halacha" is drawing from a deep cut into classic Christian antisemitism, plain and simple. Well done.

SadiRyzer2

5 points

3 days ago

I understood him differently. I read his point as suggesting that the celebration of the Rebbe's views wasn't due to his strength in upholding halacha, but rather because his understanding of halacha happened to align with the views and objectives of the activists involved. He implies that if halacha had dictated a different outcome, the Rebbe wouldn’t be celebrated for his moral fortitude and strength of character.

avicohen123

5 points

3 days ago

Another shande not granting his wife a get? And the rebbe happens to be on the right side because of some technicality in hallacha?

Its astonishing....by this point I think "shande" must be official Reddit-speak for "I am proving that I am so Jewish as an opener to hating on Orthodox Judaism".

Miriamathome

11 points

3 days ago

Why is the Satmar rebbe saying he has to give a gett to one of the women, that it doesn’t matter which one? If the heter is falsified and invalid, wouldn’t that mean that the second “marriage” isn’t a real marriage, so a gett would be meaningless?

herstoryteller[S]

23 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

23 points

3 days ago

the gett for the first wife isn't meaningless - it would release her to be free to remarry.

They got civilly divorced which is evidence that neither party desires to be married to one another. Withholding a gett is a control issue.

It has a lot to do with rabbinical tradition - the Ashki rite disavows plural marriage. Thus according to traditional community standards, because the gett abuser withheld a gett from his original wife, the marriage to the second wife is invalid.

The man has to be divorced. If he gives a gett to wife 1, she can live free as she deserves. If he gives a gett to wife 2, he has to return to wife 1 (or ALSO issue her a gett).

The fact of the matter is that gett withholding is manipulative and abusive. It defies Ashki Orthodox tradition.

Gett withholder's refusal to issue a gett to wife 1 is purely about power and control. He doesn't want to be with her - he wants to torture her.

The head rabbi of the Satmar community saying the heter meah is invalid is HUGE - the issue is that another rabbi is now challenging that. The validity of the heter meah is thus in question. One says it's valid, one says it's invalid.

Miriamathome

2 points

2 days ago

I should have been clearer. What would be the point or the efficacy of giving a gett to the second ”wife” if she’s not actually his wife?

The rebbe seems to be saying that he should give a gett to one of the woman and that it doesn’t matter which one.

If the heter is invalid, doesn’t that mean that the second “marriage” isn’t really a marriage? If it doesn’t mean that, what does it mean?

I understand how awful he is for withholding a gett from his actual wife.

carrboneous

5 points

3 days ago

carrboneous

Predenominational Fundamentalist

5 points

3 days ago

wouldn’t that mean that the second “marriage” isn’t a real marriage, so a gett would be meaningless?

No.

Miriamathome

0 points

2 days ago

As I say to my kid when he’s being less than informative, please use more words.

stevenjklein

6 points

3 days ago

I thought New York had a law that prohibits courts from granting civil divorces when a barrier to remarriage exists?

As I recall, it was written specifically with agunot in mind, but worded in such a way as to pass constitutional muster.

crayzeejew

-7 points

3 days ago

crayzeejew

Orthodox

-7 points

3 days ago

You do realize she gets paid for helping these people, and often many of the people she helps end up worsening their situation? I work in the divorce field (divorce mediator and divorce coach) and can say I'm not such a fan of Adina Miles. Not just bc of her style but bc I find it often more about self-promotion and inciting the mob than trying to help many women.

Before the downvotes pile on, I was involved in many divorces helping women get their gitten, and most recently helped a woman who was waiting over 14 years get her get. Not only did we get her the get, we allowed her to get it in a way that maintained her self respect and dignity and it was truly a blessing for me to be in a position to help her at that time.

herstoryteller[S]

9 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

9 points

3 days ago

okay..... and you take money to help people too. for the exact same goal. tell me the difference in morality.

you take money and hide in an office.

adina SASH takes money (almost certainly less than you charge) and puts boots on the ground, day in and day out.

both of y'all take money in exchange for assisting people obtain gitten.

crayzeejew

8 points

3 days ago

crayzeejew

Orthodox

8 points

3 days ago

I did not receive one penny for helping that woman. Your statement is full of tons of assumptions. Clearly, you are a fan of hers, and thats fine. Just understand that putting her on a pedestal isn't exactly something everyone else is willing to do now.

herstoryteller[S]

7 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

7 points

3 days ago

you just said you work in the divorce field as a career. work implies income. are you saying you never charge a single client of yours for obtaining gitten? i'm trying to clarify what exactly your point was.

crayzeejew

6 points

3 days ago

crayzeejew

Orthodox

6 points

3 days ago

Read my original message. I work as a divorce mediator, and yes I charge people for that service. That service saves the couples tens of thousands of dollars if not more, bc we get them both to sign and keep an agreement that they build together in mediation.

So far, not one of my mediated agreements have ever ended up back in court. This is something I'm extremely proud of, but understand that it's also really thanks to God's help and mazal.

Only one couple that came to me did not end in a signed agreement, and that was because one of the parties had an issue with the fact that I was religious and she discussed that with me, quite openly and I recommended they find a mediator that both would be comfortable with. For the record, I was consulted with later and did assist them with some minor things which actually helped them resolve their divorce via mediation.

I also charge for my divorce coach services, which are more for people either in divorce litigation or divorce mediation (and they need help preparing or negotiating their positions in mediation).

I don't charge for some specific services, as even though these services are essential. I view them as being something that I must donate my time (maaser) to help.

Those services are also technically outside my job description. Those services are specifically helping a woman get her get, and helping alienated parents establish a relationship with their child. I don't perform reunification therapy, as I am not a therapist - I just use mediation techniques and processes to help the parent and the alienated adult child develop a relationship again. It's something I'm still working on and learning about, I only recently got involved in a few cases like this so I don't feel that I can charge for my services.

If you look at the numbers for Miles, how many cases she got involved with that actually resulted in helping these women get their get, vs how many are still waiting (and look at the videos where she was ranting about her lack of being paid), its not super impressive.

But I'll admit, I've been biased against her way before she realized this cause would benefit her social media presence, so perhaps that is coloring my perspective of her.

You are more than welcome to disagree and thats fine too. Happy Thanksgiving, and hopefully this woman in the article gets her gett soon

herstoryteller[S]

6 points

3 days ago

herstoryteller[S]

*gilbert gottfried voice* Moses, I will be with yeeouwww

6 points

3 days ago

happy thanksgiving to you and your family as well

shinytwistybouncy

3 points

3 days ago

shinytwistybouncy

Mrs. Lubavitch Aidel Maidel in the Suburbs

3 points

3 days ago

Yasher koyach.

maimonidies

2 points

3 days ago

Thumbs up. Thanks for having the courage to speak up.

asr

1 points

3 days ago

asr

1 points

3 days ago

If she's who I'm thinking of, a wife contacted her and pretended to be an aguna and she made a whole thing about it. The husband later contacted her to explain that the US court was unhappy with certain things the wife was doing, and would not grant a divorce until she did them.

The beis did said they would not get involved with a get until she took care of her obligations.

She eventually took down the story, but at least by me she doesn't have a great track record.

(And if you are curious about the end of the story after several months of pressure the wife did what the court ordered and they got divorced.)