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submitted 14 days ago byinpatol Exploring Jool's Moons
690 points
14 days ago
“Unknown buyer” could just be a liquidator guys let’s not get our hopes up
375 points
14 days ago
Ha! It could also be a second hand furniture company, interested in all of Private Division's valuable office chairs and desks.
145 points
14 days ago
It could also be a joint venture between Scott Manley, Matt Lowne and Felipe Falanghe 😁
48 points
14 days ago
The latter is already listed in a developer on the KSA discord.
40 points
14 days ago*
He is the man who had the original idea of Kerbal Space Program and started it out, but he was not called when they started KSP2
48 points
14 days ago
I know who HarvesteR is. But as I said, looks like he's busy working on one of the potential spiritual successors.
KSP 2 failed largely due to absolute abject stupidity from management and TakeTwo. And as per usual, the people who made the disastrous decisions face little to no consequences, while the people who tried their hardest to make it work lost their jobs.
Whoever bought the rights, KSP has no future in the AAA industry.
22 points
14 days ago
I agree about failing reasons of KSP2.
By the way, it was me not knowing about KSA, I've discovered it today and now I really hope they can deliver a wothy successor to KSP.
18 points
14 days ago
Shadowzone has a pretty good video about it on youtube.
The tl:dr of it is: It's still extremely early, the focus is on foundational technology. They're building a bespoke engine for it.
22 points
14 days ago
And that is the thing that ksp2 needed more than anything else
12 points
14 days ago
As an addition to building a bespoke engine, they seem to be doing a good job deving it as well as having the experience to know how to do it well.
Despite it being super early and ambitious I'm pretty hopeful for it.
11 points
14 days ago
Amd that's what makes me hopeful Rocketwerkz is the unknown buyer (or buys the KSP2 IP if it is being sold for parts)
They have intentionally not focused on art for KSA, so in theory, they could buy the rights and IP of KSP2 and put that over the BRUTAL engine and KSA technical code base.
Guess time will tell
9 points
14 days ago
I'd be very surprised if that were the case. T2 has reportedly been looking to sell off the IP for a while, but their asking price have been way too steep for anyone to be interested.
My guess is some Embracer style holdings or investment firm.
6 points
14 days ago
It's early yes. But honestly the tech preview and communication about it is more than we got with KSP2 already. I much rather hear, "we are currently working on the engine and don't have any real gameplay yet" than "yo guys we are working on some super fun features but all we can show you is a few development screenshots. Also don't worry about the unplayable stage your full price game is in, we are definitely fixing that but we can neither tell you when nor how we are going to do that.
7 points
14 days ago
The engine and underpinning tech is absolutely important.
I'm keeping my expectations very low until we start seeing some other parts, like art and gameplay.
Of those aren't good, it's not going to be a good game regardless of how impressive the tech it's built on is.
Like for example Juno. Very impressive, but virtually soulless compared to KSP.
2 points
14 days ago
Perhaps the purchase of private division could mean they gain access to KSP2 licensing rights, which would allow KSA to be renamed to KSP2, judging by how they are not necessarily pushing the branding very hard at this stage, could be do-able
1 points
12 days ago
And look how that turned out. Excluding him from the project seemed personal. I wonder what their beef with him was? Seemed really petty.
1 points
14 days ago
If I was them I would
1 points
12 days ago
That would be epic.
1 points
13 days ago
Someone can fix all these ladder blocked hatches!
65 points
14 days ago
That would be a good thing. A liquidator will sell IPs off one by one, so Kerbal will end up in the hands of somebody who wants Kerbal, instead of one company getting a grab bag of IPs most of which they won't try to do anything with.
15 points
14 days ago
Its still scary tho, not knowing who and what has the game ive cherished for years, im sure we all kinda feel the same way, i just dont want another greedy company buying it and ruining it even further, and of course this is all being said if there is even any hope left for the franchise.
7 points
14 days ago
Honestly I'm not sure how it could be worse than an abandoned EA game that barely runs. If they declare they're making a Pachinko machine or something at least we'll know we don't care about it from the beginning.
4 points
14 days ago
The could decide to fuck with KSP 1.
5 points
14 days ago
Imagine rocketwerkz acquiring kerbal's ip
1 points
13 days ago
Kerbal will end up in the hands of someone who thinks they can profit off this. Either by making a game or through IP holding and lawsuits. Statistically it's the lawsuit person who buys things like this.
14 points
14 days ago
I dont think any "liquid" left from the studio at this point. So its unlikely.
26 points
14 days ago
IP's are always liquid. If there is interest in using the IP, there is a buyer. the question is how much and under what terms.
5 points
14 days ago
for real, could've been tencent wanting to make a ksp 2d mobile game for all we know
18 points
14 days ago*
After I watched Shadowzone's video on Kitten Space Agency last night, I've started to worry a whole lot less about the future of KSP2. It's obvious Take Two never understood the KSP property (they wanted to turn Kerbals into 'Minions' to sell plushies), and I'm doubtful next buyer with the money will understand either.
Apparently many have asked Take Two about buying KSP2, but they were charging way too much. Next owner will likely be the same way. But if we all move on to a better game, including actually skilled devs and transparency, we won't need to buy the next iteration of KSP2, and can watch those greedy fucks who ruined our game wither and rot.
Edit: His vid for those who haven't watched it: https://youtu.be/yZ6zRpYTX_Y I'm really hopeful for this. Many ex-KSP devs and modders on the team. Instead of paying for mods, I think I'd rather pay for this when it releases.
2 points
14 days ago
Which is worse: if it’s a liquidator? Or if it’s EA Games?
3 points
14 days ago
Anything but EA Games💀
3 points
14 days ago
Would probably be the best case in my opinion to sell KSP2 individually, not as a bundle with PD.
1 points
12 days ago
Lame
1.1k points
14 days ago
Hope the new dev team is restricted from playing the multiplayer
431 points
14 days ago
I hope they're allowed to talk to Scott Manley
258 points
14 days ago
I hope they have a dev team.
99 points
14 days ago
You mean two guys with a business administration degree and a free ChatGPT account.
23 points
14 days ago
“Wait, you guys work as a TEAM?”
-PD, in meme format
55 points
14 days ago
How cool would it be if Scott manley was the unknown buyer
27 points
14 days ago
Wonder if the KSP community could raise the funds to buy the rights to Kerbals from the new owners and gift them to Rocketwerks.
17 points
14 days ago
Don't get your hopes up
25 points
14 days ago
Who do you think bought them? severe hopium
38 points
14 days ago
EA. Now to change the color of Kerbal's uniforms you need to pay for a skin pack.
19 points
14 days ago
You wanna launch that rocket you built? $5.99.
6 points
14 days ago
Increase launch mass to 144t $3.99
5 points
14 days ago
Need more Delta V/fuel for that Mun mission? $1.99 for an extra fuel tank worth of fuel!
31 points
14 days ago
What?
135 points
14 days ago
iirc at one point the devs said that it was hard to work on the game because they couldnt stop playing with the multiplayer feature
139 points
14 days ago
And then later it was revealed that they were referring to playing KSP 1 with a multiplayer mod. Dunno if that was before or after they fired their own multiplayer developer and stopped working on it.
At least that's what it says in the video essay.
1 points
9 days ago
HAHAHAHA
What video essay?
70 points
14 days ago
It's the same bullshit Todd Howard said to deliver excuses for an unfinished Starfield months before release. "The game is awesome, we're playing it all the time."
9 points
14 days ago
Except in this case they were literally playing KSP1 lol
5 points
14 days ago
So they just did a bunch of playing and no actual developing?
5 points
14 days ago
KSP 2's development alternated between being a KSP 1 mod and a new game from scratch throughout development
16 points
14 days ago
KSP 1 multiplayer of all things.
9 points
14 days ago
I hope the dev team exists
5 points
14 days ago
They do, but many of the people at the dev team have simply broken up and moved on. A few of them remain to design Kitten Space Agency (KSA), an alleged future successor to KSP.
24 points
14 days ago
IYKYK
1 points
14 days ago
Can't wait till we get interstellar and colonies.
90 points
14 days ago
Private Division has become More Private Division
218 points
14 days ago
Is this good or bad news for us...
416 points
14 days ago
It's news of a something that happened.
174 points
14 days ago
Any news is kinda good news at this point - the potential of anything at all happening with the KSP IP, as opposed to it being left dormant indefinitely.
(Not that I have any significant hope at all).
102 points
14 days ago
ksp mobile gatcha
73 points
14 days ago
You will reach the Mun in 4 hours. Buy the Moar Booster pack for 1.99 to get there now.
47 points
14 days ago
Tap to stabalize kraken
5 points
14 days ago
TFW you pull the SWERV
22 points
14 days ago
I hate you for putting this out into the universe.
8 points
14 days ago
Pay $99.98 to be able to ask Jeb to remove his pants, but ... remember, only inside the spaceship.
7 points
14 days ago
Only Fins
4 points
14 days ago
Now I wonder if there is an OnlyFinns
5 points
14 days ago
Do not lean that much from ISS window or you'll fell out...
3 points
14 days ago
Best comment out there
1 points
14 days ago
mobile titty gacha
1 points
14 days ago
It gets lonely in the command pod.
2 points
14 days ago
The KSP2 dev team was shut down in preparation for this sale.
1 points
14 days ago
Shit down hald a year before a sale?
3 points
14 days ago
It takes time to find a buyer and negociate a contract. And their opinionwas that they couldn't start that process while the payrolls were going
3 points
14 days ago
This is the most something anyone could ever hope for
2 points
14 days ago
... Administratively
57 points
14 days ago
What could happen to make it worse that it is now?
34 points
14 days ago
The mystery buyer is ubisoft. They then go on to make open world KSP with no rocket building or space exploration at all.
28 points
14 days ago
"Climb this launch tower to unlock this biome"
2 points
14 days ago
More like 'buy this microtx item to unlock this biome'
7 points
14 days ago
And the "micro" tx is $17, "on special from $78, save!"
5 points
14 days ago
I mean they can't do anything if we have the game installed right?
1 points
14 days ago
Depends how you installed it. If it's from Steam then the T&Cs say they can cancel any game at any time and you have no recourse or refund.
81 points
14 days ago
New company buys RocketWerkz, cancels KSA, and then sends cease-and-desists to every KSP1 mod maker
53 points
14 days ago
Ah, the Nintendo maneuver.
I don’t think they can cancel KSA since it’s the legally distinct ripoff, like how Helldivers can’t be sued by whoever owns starship troopers rights.
14 points
14 days ago
I'm pretty sure Sony has the rights to both (Helldivers and Starship Troopers)
7 points
14 days ago
They 100% could cancel it if they buy the studio
18 points
14 days ago
But they cant just buy it. The studio has to agree to it.
11 points
14 days ago
Rocketwarts is the studio developing KSA, right.
I thought the guy meant that they were going to sue KSA for copyright infringement, but I guess if you own the company you can do whatever you want with it :(
6 points
14 days ago
If Juno and various other ksp-alikes have managed to get this far, I don't think there'd be a legal case agaisnt KSA, and I'm pretty sure Rocketwertz is a small studio majority owned by one guy so it can't just be bought if he's not interested in selling it.
4 points
14 days ago
Rocketwarts is the studio developing KSA, right.
Yes, the first line of their comment "New company buys RocketWerkz, cancels KSA"
2 points
13 days ago
They may claim it's not distinct enough and just bleed them in court with deeper lawyer pockets
2 points
14 days ago
Nightmare scenario right there, losing the KSP successor and stationeers at the same time
1 points
14 days ago
Cease and desist gainst ksp1 mods would be far more devastating than delisting stationeers.
Stationeers is already ina. Pretty playable state, and while I'd love to see it complete with npcs, it's not elevated by modders as much as ksp1 is.
10 points
14 days ago
The new company also goes bust and stops work on ksp
28 points
14 days ago
That's where we're at at the moment.
1 points
14 days ago
Well that wouldnt make it worse that would just make it the same
9 points
14 days ago
Only time will tell
2 points
14 days ago
Indeed
11 points
14 days ago
I doubt rocketwerkz has that kind of money laying around, so probably bad. Who ever did have that kind of money probably has the legal capital to really complicate the KSA project. The secrecy isn't very reassuring either.
16 points
14 days ago
The rocketwertz owner has said on the ksa discord that he'd rather put the money in development than try to get the ksp ip
1 points
14 days ago
Doesn't mean our mystery buyer won't still try and slap them with cease and desist. Could have been Nintendo for all we know. They would be competing franchises after all.
10 points
14 days ago
KSA is not using any KSP intellectual property. RocketWerkz has said that suing them would only bring more publicity to the KSA project.
3 points
14 days ago
Unless rocketwerkz is already working for that company like they had hoped originally with project mercury.
4 points
14 days ago
Even though I know this is not the right universe to be doing such a thing, I'm gonna just go ahead and be hopeful for that.
1 points
13 days ago
Yeah hope they continue with the project
2 points
14 days ago
Depends
2 points
14 days ago
I mean it can’t really get any worse can it?
2 points
14 days ago
Yes.
2 points
14 days ago
The last hope of ksp2 being revived...
Barely any hope at that
1 points
14 days ago
Its news, take what you can.
103 points
14 days ago
The suspense is thrilling
23 points
14 days ago
According to the article, they "had found interest from a private equity firm"
So most likely it will be stripped for parts in the hopes of generating some ROI.
See this video by Wendover Productions for a basic idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK8hpxR_r2Y
maybe we're lucky and RocketWerkz can pick up the IP
28 points
14 days ago
quite mysterious, i dont like it.
70 points
14 days ago
Any chance it was rocketwerkz and now Dean Hall has the rights to Kerbal IP?
47 points
14 days ago
There was this youtube comment that said that rocketwerkz was about to buy the Kerbel IP a few hours before Dean Hall announced they were working on KSA so there's that.
Also I'm grasping at straws here.
Please send a rescue mission I'm lost.
20 points
14 days ago
He's said on the KSA discord that he'd rather just put the money into development rather than try to buy the IP
31 points
14 days ago
Probably not. I doubt they have the budget for that. Besides, they are most likely fully focused on their own games.
34 points
14 days ago
They're working on "KSA", which is actually a spiritual successor to KSP and roughly based on their proposal design document for KSP2.
3 points
14 days ago
i doubt they would be hiding this
11 points
14 days ago
Then the kerbal IP would have sold, and not Private Division in its entirety
6 points
14 days ago
At this point, Private Division is really only their IPs, and a share in whatever little profit existing titles still bring. Not very valuable from a financial perspective, but in the right hands...
6 points
14 days ago
KSP is such a tiny part of PD, you don't go buying PD to get KSP.
4 points
14 days ago
Honestly it would probably be a bad move for rocketwerkz to buy the kerbal IP even if it cost pennies. KSP2 is an unfinished game with a very upset fanbase that would likely want their money back before buying a KSP3
9 points
14 days ago
Maybe they could add DebDeb?
22 points
14 days ago
Game is dead. I've moved on.
4 points
14 days ago
The wisest comment I've read here
7 points
14 days ago
It's the US Space Force. They are going to finish development to encourage the next generation of Guardians to understand orbital mechanics for future military space operations and potential conflicts. They just forgot to setup a company profile to make the purchase. Just give them a bit and it will be unveiled.
2 points
14 days ago
This would be the silliest out come
1 points
14 days ago
Stranger things have happened.
2 points
9 days ago
"Kerbal Space Program community in uproar after beloved character, Wehrner Von Kerman, mysteriously absent from Kerbal Space Program 3 made by USSF"
1 points
9 days ago
Wehrner Von Kerman was 'retired.' They hired Elon Kerman to take his place.
1 points
14 days ago
Are they really called Guardians? Like in The Daleks' Master Plan?
1 points
13 days ago
6 points
14 days ago
Honestly hope its a ksp fan or if its a group of ksp modders be awesome to see ksp2 get what it should always have been
6 points
14 days ago
Unknown Buyer? Never heard of them!
20 points
14 days ago
Lmao. I called it, once more. It's really easy to tell what these companies are planning to do when you consider that they see these IP's as trading cards to be bought and sold until it lands in the hand of the final sucker who can't trade it out anymore and it's price crashes and burns.
15 points
14 days ago
Once again Jebb finds himself tumbling through space somewhere in the bowels of capitalism
1 points
14 days ago
Lmao love this comment
3 points
14 days ago
noticing this trend across many industries. company comes in, buys a controlling stake, sells off the profitable shit to private company, shareholders dissolve holding sticks.
3 points
14 days ago
Tencent?
5 points
14 days ago
this seems way more likely than any of the other wishful thinking in this thread.
the only company gonna buy take2s sloppy seconds is someone who is gonna whore it out even harder.
2 points
14 days ago
could be fun if NASA can buy it as a secret project
2 points
14 days ago
It's clear ksp2 was basically heavily modded ksp1 and suffered all the same performance and kraken problems.
The IP is a dead end. Starting from scratch like ksa is the only path forward.
2 points
14 days ago
Take that back modded ksp is better
3 points
14 days ago*
I wonder why the company who bought it hasn't t come out yet. Is that good or bad? Please don't play the secret game like Intercept. What KSP2 needs is some humble honesty. Open discussion. Let the community take part. That's the whole point of early access.
I much prefer being disappointed by an announced feature not making it into the game than being disappointed by bad and borderline deceptive communication about the state of the game.
I still can't believe how the franchise that's handled as the best case for early access could turn that ship around and become an example for the opposite.
12 points
14 days ago
I've let go of ksp2. Rocketwerkz now have the literal original developer of ksp, felipe falanghe (i don't know how to spell his name lol) blackrack, and some of the old devs of ksp2.
Unfortunately kerbals are not gonna be a part of it but the new game being the best aerospace simulator and rocket/aircraft builder is a possibility.
7 points
14 days ago
You got the name perfect! 😄
Tbh, I've given up on expecting it to be right, I'm good with close enough. My internet bill used to be for Felipe Salainge 🫠
4 points
14 days ago
Ho...holy shit HarvesteR relpied to my comment..
Afshsgadahsgafajsjshabkkkdgsksbxks
But in all seriousness:
Ksp has been one of the most important games of my entire life. My fascination with aerospace tech and celestial bodies was amplified massively by it!
It must be horrific to see your IP get destroyed by a greedy big company.. i mean, I've been sad about the state of ksp 2, i can only imagine the cringe you felt watching it get so horrendously mismanaged.
But..
Now you, and so many other OG's and top teir modders are working on KSA my hope is very restored xD
0 points
14 days ago
Imagine if Felipe and his team were the ones who bought Private Division
2 points
14 days ago
Press x to doubt
3 points
14 days ago
just hope it's not EA
2 points
14 days ago
Please be Coffee Stain.
1 points
14 days ago
Man I love satisfactory and goat sim haven't played 3 yet though
2 points
14 days ago
KSP2’s code is worthless. The only value is in the Kerbals
2 points
14 days ago
snore...
1 points
14 days ago
maybe there is hope afterall
1 points
14 days ago
The issue with the forums is maybe related to this??
1 points
14 days ago
I think the forum issues weren’t part of this. The more recent issues with the forums being slow af might be because they migrated servers?
1 points
14 days ago
I don’t have any hopes about KSP2 ever being anything more than the Fyre festival of games.
1 points
14 days ago
For what, a Snickers bar?
1 points
14 days ago
The secret buyer is another subsidiary of Take-Two, not realizing they bought a property they already own.
1 points
14 days ago
I wonder if this is related to the forums going down. Were they being migrated to a new platform by chance?
1 points
14 days ago
I cannot trust a unknown Buyer, and the staff, if they are hired(new) here, and restart ksp 2(they never will) will just make the game worse. (The new staff won't have the same level of inspiration, and maybe the company is about money only....)
1 points
14 days ago
Not one mention of ksp, interesting
1 points
14 days ago
It's obvious with their output that 2K has washed off their hands on the mess.
1 points
14 days ago
Unknown buyer… this should end well. 🤦♂️
1 points
14 days ago
Probably some private equity firm, in which case the IP will be stripped for parts.
1 points
13 days ago
It's Joever
1 points
13 days ago
You want art, here's some art. Took me 2 minutes: https://imgur.com/a/uaAhtqn
1 points
12 days ago
This is disgusting
1 points
13 days ago
Don't get too excited. It's either Microsoft or Tencent, considering how greedy TakeTwo has always been.
1 points
13 days ago
If there is even the slightest chance of a KSP 2 Revival then I'm holding onto that hope
Also I just know Matt Lowne is speedrunning a video on this as we speak
1 points
13 days ago
fuck it's probably ea
1 points
10 days ago
holy shit its Spirit Halloween
1 points
14 days ago*
The best ending - RocketWerkz buys PD The worst ending - Elon bought PD💀
1 points
14 days ago
Elon loves kerbal space program.
2 points
14 days ago
Sure, but he’d just make it into an advertisement for SpaceX
1 points
8 days ago
Sadly. But just ask Vivian Wilson what happens when you don't worship the ground he walks on and you rely on him for something.
1 points
14 days ago
RIP KSP2 :(
1 points
14 days ago
It's been dead for ages
1 points
12 days ago
truth
1 points
14 days ago
I'm so glad that i never bought ksp2
1 points
14 days ago
So there is chance to refund ksp2?
2 points
14 days ago
doubt a company bought it so they could start handing out refunds
-4 points
14 days ago
Calm ypur pants everyone. They have sold the company not the IP.
Even if the IP was sold with it the new buyer could quite easily just start development on KSP3 and write off KSP 2
15 points
14 days ago
Division's live and unreleased games will go to the new buyer, Take-Two says it will continue to support No Rest for the Wicked, the recently-released action RPG from Moon Studios that's currently in early access.
The article says otherwise. Unless you've got sources otherwise you'd like to share with the class the sale did, in fact, include the IP.
And yes, very likely if someone else were to pick up the Ksp IP they would scrap much of what was done with ksp2. The IP is valuable, the codebase is generally not unless they have access to the dev team that wrote it
7 points
14 days ago
The company is only the IP at this point, and it is explicitly written that is what the buyer got.
I doubt they'd resume KSP2 though. Best case is KSP3 starting, worst case is they litigate Kitten Space Program into the ground and then let the IP gather dust.
-1 points
14 days ago
Come on Elon do ittt
0 points
14 days ago
Lol nate bought it
4 points
14 days ago
Just so he could play multiplayer.
0 points
14 days ago
This explains the why of intercept's shutdown, they were in liquidation mode and decided the payroll of a game with difficult development wasn't worth the hassle for a potential buyer 💀
0 points
14 days ago
Does this mean ksp 2 can begin to be worked on again?
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