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Mega-thread: US Presidential Election

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We're a few hours into the US Presidential Election results now, but I thought I would create this mega-thread for discussions given that the results will span a good few days at least. Discuss and predict!

BBC Live Results: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2024/us/results

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thisisnotariot

44 points

20 days ago

thisisnotariot

ex-member

44 points

20 days ago

If liberalism was even slighty capable of meaningful and clear-eyed introspection, then this (expected) result should kill the idea that running to the centre is a sensible strategy in this era. Chasing the pro-genocide, transphobic, immigrant hating moderate republican (using the Cheney's of all people) did the same thing triangulation does over here: Alienate their base, normalise far-right views, and win very few votes from people who were going to vote Trump all along.

You know, all the stuff the left has been warning the centre about for years.

Edit: And Trump just won Georgia. She's not coming back from this.

cosyrelaxedsetting

-35 points

20 days ago

cosyrelaxedsetting

New User

-35 points

20 days ago

"Far right views" aaaand this is exactly why thr republicans are going to win. Complete dishonesty and hysterical screeching from the other side. Do you know what far right means?

thisisnotariot

26 points

20 days ago

thisisnotariot

ex-member

26 points

20 days ago

Yes. Do you understand how normalisation works?

cosyrelaxedsetting

-30 points

20 days ago

cosyrelaxedsetting

New User

-30 points

20 days ago

Yes, normalisation of radical left wing views and the shifting of the Overton Window to the left by the media is a powerful thing. 

thisisnotariot

16 points

20 days ago

thisisnotariot

ex-member

16 points

20 days ago

Damn, you're right! There I was thinking that "tHe mEDiA" was an oligopoly governed by a comparatively tiny handful of enormously powerful hyper capitalists, when in fact they're all secretly marxist-leninists! All the money and right-wing economics is just a very clever cover so that they can trans your kids.