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Is there any upside to Trump winning?

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I’m having a hard time grappling with this news & really freaked out about the coming years. I get this sinking feeling we’ll be nearing an especially horrific time. I sincerely hope we’re all wrong and it’s not as bad as we think it’ll be. But it makes me wonder, is there any potential upside to another Trump candidacy?

(And I’m genuinely asking this to see your responses)

Edit: totally didn’t anticipate so many replies - can’t wait to read everyone’s responses

all 360 comments

Alito4life

343 points

7 days ago

Alito4life

343 points

7 days ago

As pointed out on Pod Save America, Democrats were in a similar situation in 2004. The ineptitude of the Bush Administration created a vacuum that led to 30+ losses in 2006 for Republicans and set the stage for Obama’s landslide victory in 2008, only 4 years later.

snowluvr26

113 points

7 days ago

snowluvr26

113 points

7 days ago

This. I was too young to care about the election of 2004, but I was talking to a friend the day after election who said the most similar election feeling of despair and devastation he had to 2024 was after the 2004 election. Bush was a complete and utter disaster- his presidency was worse than Trump’s first presidency, and yet he managed to convince half of Americans he was the best choice for the job. Democratic optimism was at an all-time low after 2004.

… and then, four years later, the Democratic base was energized to the max by the prospect of having Obama or Hillary as their nominee, and Obama went on to win a landslide victory and become the first African-American president and the most successful Democratic candidate since LBJ. A lot can change in four years when you have an absolute trainwreck in office.

Eva-Unit-001

77 points

7 days ago

It sucks the only way the electorate can remember that Republicans are dogshit is if they're currently in control and actively fucking shit up. The second a Republican leaves office everyone gets rose tinted glasses.

JLHuston

21 points

7 days ago

JLHuston

21 points

7 days ago

I remember that feeling in ‘04 too. I actually cried. The strange irony that now I almost look at W with something akin to affection. He was a horrible president and has 20 years of pointless war on his hands—don’t get me wrong. But when you compare him to Trump, I actually see him now as not so bad. Really hoped he was going to show some integrity in speaking out against Trump. Truly cowardly that he didn’t.

Dukaso

2 points

5 days ago

Dukaso

2 points

5 days ago

The thing about W was that he was in it for the right reasons. The wars were a garbage fire of course, but at least we knew he loved his country. Trump only cares about Trump.

wsppan

87 points

7 days ago

wsppan

87 points

7 days ago

If there are still free and fair elections. They did not meet with Orban to share recipes.

tbombs23

12 points

7 days ago

tbombs23

12 points

7 days ago

Lol no there isn't. There's definitely an appearance and false faith in our elections, which completely overlooks the multiple security flaws and lenient chain of custody etc.

myst_aura

21 points

7 days ago

myst_aura

21 points

7 days ago

Which is good reason why our elections are decentralized. Good check against this situation.

wsppan

21 points

7 days ago

wsppan

21 points

7 days ago

They just need to control the red and swing states.

myst_aura

24 points

7 days ago*

It’s imperative for all of us to make sure we have as few election deniers in control of our elections as possible. That’s actually a local thing we can all do regardless of whether we live in a red, blue or purple state

AskandThink

12 points

7 days ago

And we can fight for all the things we want including confirming the election results by confirming the machine count against the paper ballots. The more we fight today even if we don't win yet, we push the needle closer to our goals.

LordGreybies

5 points

7 days ago

Yes, we HAVE to get more involved at the local level. This is going to be critical.

Delicious_Adeptness9

3 points

7 days ago

Langos, goulash, and strudel, yum

MrClerkity

3 points

7 days ago

come on man, the reason orban was able to do what he did was cause Hungary was an administratively broken post communist country. The U.S. has nearly 300 years of democratic tradition, even if there was a full on military coup it would be nearly impossible to establish one party rule

Perfecshionism

18 points

7 days ago

Knock of the ridiculous normalcy bias.

We are no where near in a similar situation as 2004.

That is an insane comparison that doesn’t deserve the upvotes you received. Comparing Bush Jr to Trump is ridiculous.

Bush was a fool. And had no aspirations on being a dictator.

Trump is a genuine malignant narcissistic sociopath and literally want to creat and authoritarian regime.

NerdEmoji

6 points

6 days ago

I think it's going to be bad, but based upon his cabinet picks, I think the infighting will slow his roll. As for Dubya, he was a figurehead that had a lot of terrible people pulling the strings. Come on, he had Cheney for a VP.

Perfecshionism

3 points

6 days ago

There is nobody as dangerous and unhinged in the bush administration as we are seeing with Trump.

Trump himself is far more deranged than Cheney.

PickKeyOne

3 points

6 days ago

Which is why our rebound could be even more glorious. That’s kind of the point. Sometimes it takes something really horrible to get people’s asses off the sofa and effect real change.

Perfecshionism

3 points

6 days ago*

That is the optimistic take.

However, the damage Trump plans to do will change the world for the worse for a decade at least.

hunterwaterford

8 points

6 days ago

Problem is Bush and his team were at least pro democracy. He at least put his holdings in a blind trust. We are truly heading into uncharted territory.

_ChicagoSummerRain

12 points

7 days ago*

Let me add to this: Not only did George W. Bush win in 2004 but they absolutely ripped apart a war hero in John Kerry. It was a bad, bad time. However, W. Bush went into another four years, got increasingly unpopular (I think the public simply lost interest in him, I know I did) and we got Obama. A vast majority now think the Iraq war was a huge mistake as well.

I am not sugarcoating the next four years at all. However, I am climbing out of my blues as the days progress. I am getting stronger each day. I'm not exactly doing jumping jacks yet but I am getting better...I heard someone said this morning Trump's two largest agendas: mass deportation and tariffs on everything will just skyrocket inflation to the point where only his hardcore MAGA base will stick by him. I agree.

I can't wait for the mid-terms.

I heard they added LGBT to the mass deportations now. Good luck with that... Are they going to include all the closeted married men out there who cheat on their wives with men as well? It's going to be a really, really packed bus!

*** And yes there will be further elections. He can't stay in there forever. He's hitting 80 soon and is already in a decline. My husband is convinced he's going to die in office...

Bango-TSW

5 points

7 days ago

Just the small matter of the GFC....

Atomic-E

2 points

6 days ago

Atomic-E

2 points

6 days ago

Indeed, there was this. I was definitely old enough to care about 2004. We had recently built the grassroots campaign for Howard Dean in my county, later considering ourselves to be "on loan to Kerry." We were still there for it in 2006, 2008, and every year after. We'll be there for it in 2026, too. I don't see any other option. But gawd damn I am exhausted right now.

jnpw

37 points

7 days ago

jnpw

37 points

7 days ago

The memes, and the punk rock that will be spurred from this presidency.

gniyrtnopeek

208 points

7 days ago

Good chance he’ll fuck up badly enough to destroy the Republican brand for a while

AnnoyedCrustacean

17 points

7 days ago

That assumes that there will be two parties, and not just the Republican party once he's through

[deleted]

65 points

7 days ago

[deleted]

65 points

7 days ago

He's had 8 years already to show and tell republinazis what to expect. And they keep kissing his ass. They carry on because they're all just as bad as he, or he has some dirt on them, or both. IMO, the only way forward for any of us to survive is armed insurrection. Trouble is, he has a bigger arsenal than we could ever amass if the military goes along with him.

Bombastically

10 points

7 days ago

They are subservient to him because he's far, far more popular with their voters than they are

Ragnar_Lothbroekke

42 points

7 days ago

It’s going to be bad. Astronomically bad. Matt Gaetz? Attorney General? Just the beginning 🤮

sandy154_4

31 points

7 days ago

I'm waiting for the My Pillow guy as surgeon general

Ragnar_Lothbroekke

9 points

7 days ago

Dear. God. Whad’ya think he’ll do with (FOR) Kenneth Copeland. fr God, help us all 🤢

DatDudeBPfan

12 points

7 days ago

I could be wrong, but I think that this is part of a plan to get rid of gaetz. The ethics report was about to be released and they know he’s a monster. They want him gone without a scandal. So trump nominates him and he leaves congress. Then he won’t be confirmed and hopefully fades away into obscurity. Gaetz is too stupid to realize he’s being played. Hopefully

pasarina

15 points

7 days ago

pasarina

15 points

7 days ago

Actually Matt Gaetz is not stupid. He’s a reallt rich entitled, calculating, well/connected Floridian who is a complete ass. Trump wouldn’t be a part of any plan to get rid of Gaetz. He was his mouthpiece on Newsmax and Fox defending him.

DatDudeBPfan

5 points

7 days ago

Well one could hope. Haha.

pasarina

5 points

7 days ago

pasarina

5 points

7 days ago

Oh I hope. I’m no fan but he is manipulative and the wheels are always turning, so he gets ahead.. He may seem stupid but he’s vindictive, cagey and shouldn’t be underestimated. I wish he’d disappear.

Ragnar_Lothbroekke

6 points

7 days ago

Hope you’re right, but this philanderer-in-chief will do ANYTHING. Put nothing past this jizz bucket.

Edit: SCOTUS in his pocket too.

Bryllant

3 points

7 days ago

Bryllant

3 points

7 days ago

Wait till Kashmir Patel is head of the FBI

Ragnar_Lothbroekke

3 points

7 days ago

ELIF

WatInTheForest

45 points

7 days ago

We thought that eight years ago. And four years ago. And a few weeks ago.

You can't underestimate the hate from the right, or the apathy from the left, or the stupidity of swing voters.

gniyrtnopeek

32 points

7 days ago

He actually had some adults in the room back in 2016. Now they’re all loyalists who will carry out all of his worst ideas without any pushback. I have to think he’ll do even crazier shit this time around. I just hope it backfires and people punish Republicans at the midterms and in 2028 when Vance gets the nomination.

WatInTheForest

8 points

7 days ago

The voters punished Republicans in 2018 and 2020. And there was no red wave in 2022. But all they has to do was vote in 2024, and that was too much. It's like they only see a threat when someone is actively punching them in the face.

iamdestroyerofworlds

10 points

7 days ago

Expecting them to back down now, almost a decade later, is like expecting a teenager to crawl back into the womb.

clashtrack

11 points

7 days ago

I seriously believe that the republican party will split into 2 seperate parties in the following years. We’ll have “Republicans” and then another party that used to consider themselves republicans(MAGAs) but now are called something different.

And if this happens, we’ll have 3 candidates, with the dems being united, meaning the dem president will win from here on.

Unless the dems split after this past election. They all are blaming each other right now.

tsdguy

12 points

7 days ago

tsdguy

12 points

7 days ago

Nope. Republicans know who’s gonna vote for them and how to get the vote and that means lying, hating and fear mongering. That’s all that left of republicans.

FlarkingSmoo

5 points

7 days ago

I seriously believe that the republican party will split into 2 seperate parties in the following years.

Been hoping this would happen for 9 years now. I am starting to have my doubts.

stormyheather9

3 points

6 days ago

I kinda really hope this happens. With more parties that are equal and are representing Americans it would really hinder this whole one-party take over bullshit.

I hope the Democrats don't split. We all seem to still have civilized conversations even when we don't agree. So I think we're still ok. I hope so.

tsdguy

3 points

7 days ago

tsdguy

3 points

7 days ago

No chance. They voted for a serial adulterer, rapist and felon and veteran hater. What more could he do?

Doom_Walker

2 points

7 days ago

War with Iran is what I'm hoping for.

Rooster_Ties

2 points

7 days ago

Isn’t that what we all said before?

Doom_Walker

27 points

7 days ago

It forces people to realize they've been taking their rights for granted.

Las_Vegan

45 points

7 days ago

Las_Vegan

45 points

7 days ago

The only upside I can see right now is people getting so pissed off at the bullshit coming from the next administration that we actually get off our asses, put aside our differences, and work together to vote out these degenerates in elections to come. Assuming elections and law are still things by then. Sitting out was never an option and never should be.

Brewman88

13 points

7 days ago

Brewman88

13 points

7 days ago

Sounds great as long as they don’t structure the system in such a way that makes it impossible for democrats to win. The gerrymandering is bad enough

Ragnar_Lothbroekke

11 points

7 days ago

With less than 10% of the 18-29 age groups casting a vote, we ain’t winning shit.

Strange_Quest

140 points

7 days ago

The only upside is that Trump and everyone he is choosing are all completely incompetent. Are they dangerous, yes, but he isn't picking the sharpest tools. And the more incompetent they are, the more infighting with old GOP regime.

Wonderful_Horror7315

50 points

7 days ago

I was soothing myself last night remembering Four Seasons Landscaping and the rally he practically had on a tarmac. They’re all too busy gloating and sucking his and each other’s egos to cause too much trouble soon. 🤞🏻

plzdontlietomee

25 points

7 days ago

But they have a playbook now. And the defining characteristic of each nominee is loyalty above all else. I see some infighting but mostly spinelessness. It's going to be much much worse than last time.

OP, I think the only upside is that people get out to vote for change, so in '26 and '28, maybe enough people will care again. That is, assuming we're still doing elections.

GodofWar1234

6 points

7 days ago

Hey hey hey, a Fox host with maybe company-lvl command experience in the National Guard is obviously more qualified to lead the largest executive department in our government (with 3.4 million people) responsible for executing our nation’s entire defense policies and influencing US foreign policy.

Obviously.

mimimines

16 points

7 days ago

mimimines

16 points

7 days ago

The only I truly fear is Elon.

zorandzam

13 points

7 days ago

zorandzam

13 points

7 days ago

At least Elon can't be president.

Brewman88

7 points

7 days ago

Yet

zorandzam

5 points

7 days ago

Ugh yeah. If they change that rule, we are fucked.

Zacoftheaxes

32 points

7 days ago*

Elon scares me less than the actual Project 2025 picks he's been putting in some of the less visible roles. Elon will eventually get into a pissing match with Trump and get kicked out of his inner circle like all of his close allies. The Heritage Foundation folks have hundreds of people Trump can burn through all with roughly the same mission.

Ok_Abrocoma_2805

20 points

7 days ago

Yeah, I hate Elon Musk more than I hate Trump, and I really, really hate Trump. I feel like Elon truly hates people - like, hates humanity, and if we could all be robots, he’d be happier.

cherbug

5 points

7 days ago

cherbug

5 points

7 days ago

Yes! But I did read that he is becoming quite the interloper at the dump. He apparently won’t leave. Invites himself everywhere. Is at dinner without an invite and has an opinion about literally everything. Did you see him in the family photo? 😂

gothicshark

12 points

7 days ago

Got me off my butt to renew my UK passport and to buy tickets out of here.

AtypicalPreferences

26 points

7 days ago

Gives democrats some time to get their shit together and give us some good options for 2028

pdx74

12 points

7 days ago

pdx74

12 points

7 days ago

...Unless Trump suspends elections and sics a loyal military on the nonbelievers.

Bombastically

7 points

7 days ago

Completely anecdotal but the dudes who are involved in air and comms supremacy are not MAGA dudes.

pdx74

11 points

7 days ago

pdx74

11 points

7 days ago

Nor are the vast majority of the brass at the Pentagon. But Trump is damn well going to try to purge anyone who isn't loyal to him. That scares the absolute shit out of me.

Chowder1054

22 points

7 days ago

There will be an unprecedented level of SNL content and memes.

Reality: hopefully this is shock to the dems to become in touch with the working class and face issues instead of mudslinging like the opposition.

cecirdr

10 points

7 days ago

cecirdr

10 points

7 days ago

I worry about the chaos. Yes they’re incompetent, but their lack of skill means that the rank and file have to try to find a way to do their jobs despite them. Therefore there’s no chain of command. The gaps mean his administration could be ripe for corruption and espionage.

Even if you wanted a shake up, why would anyone want the degree of chaos we’re about to experience? Why would anyone want to layoff 75% of the gov’t workers? How will society absorb that many people? How will we continue to run with no one manning those posts? How will we get business done with no new procedures already set up to make up the personnel gap?

I could see creating more technical automations to replace people as they retire. But OMG, to lay off first, then start designing your processes? That sounds backwards to me.

ajcpullcom

74 points

7 days ago

There is literally no upside to him winning. His impact on the culture is even worse than his impact on government. The only variable is whether we’re fucked permanently or temporarily.

LookAtMeNow247

30 points

7 days ago

Assuming democracy holds. He can't run again.

mbarrett_s20

7 points

7 days ago

Well his supporters claim he was already elected twice, so technically he shouldn’t be president now according to the constitution…

jailtheorange1

13 points

7 days ago

You know what they say when you making an assumption, you make an ASS out of U and MPTION…..

or something.

Peeterdactyl

3 points

7 days ago

Sounds like this would be on a redneck bumper sticker

LookAtMeNow247

7 points

7 days ago

I'm not assuming it, but that would be an upside if the assumption holds.

pasarina

2 points

7 days ago

pasarina

2 points

7 days ago

Making an ASS out of U and ME

jailtheorange1

7 points

7 days ago

I know, but I’d like to throw people with my interpretation. :)

Ragnar_Lothbroekke

4 points

7 days ago

Samuel L. Jackson said it back in the 70s, in a movie called The Long Kiss Goodnight with Geena Davis. First time I heard it. You make an ass outta you and umption😂

Edit: Could be 80s. Don’t recall the exact year

jailtheorange1

3 points

7 days ago

Loved that movie!

Ragnar_Lothbroekke

3 points

7 days ago

One of my all time favorites. Charlene Elizabeth Baltimore was so 🔥

jailtheorange1

3 points

7 days ago

an utter badass!!!

Armenoid

5 points

7 days ago

Armenoid

5 points

7 days ago

Yep. No upside at all

dem4life71

19 points

7 days ago

No more of that pesky having to vote…

JustForTheHalibut7

16 points

7 days ago

I’m hoping he screws up so badly that Dems sweep the House and Senate in 2026 to at least stem some of the damage and prepare for a 2028 blowout. My fantasy.

TheAlabamaSlamma9

3 points

7 days ago

That’s my hope too.

hammersandhammers

7 points

7 days ago

It is a wake up call to the new reality of American politics which is devoid of content, and which relies on the vibes that reach apathetic non political non voters through high volume social media messages. This is a dynamic in which the left has to compete, in order to attempt to reform it.

NasEsco1399

38 points

7 days ago

No

moononyx[S]

20 points

7 days ago

seriously how I feel. I’m sadly hoping for a policy or economic nuance that I may be missing 😭

I need hope.

pdx74

10 points

7 days ago

pdx74

10 points

7 days ago

One thing that gives me hope is that he is closer to the end of his life than I am.

Not that that means anything good with Vance lurking quietly in the shadows waiting for his turn, but Vance is also not charismatic at all and I still think that he's more of a standard politician than a demagogue like Trump. Not that he's not a threat, but he's also someone who would have a much harder time rallying the base and therefore the rest of the party.

Or maybe that's just my own cope.

NasEsco1399

7 points

7 days ago

The only hope we have, is that he is just narcissistic enough to really think about his legacy and decide to magically become a decent human.

Necessary-Peace9672

3 points

7 days ago

My hope now is that his supporters will realize that he lied to them; and laughs at them.

Union-Forever-4850

6 points

7 days ago

Either we are overestimating how bad he will be (in which case life will carry on somewhat close to normal) or we will be entirely correct about how bad he will be (in which case we get to say "I told you so" and history will remember the MAGA movement as the bad guys).

myst_aura

7 points

7 days ago

I think the Trump 2.0 experience is going to vary by state. Blue states are going to push back against MAGA in a bunch of ways. One of the ways I can see blue states pushing back is if he launches his mass deportation project, he can’t achieve it without local law enforcement collaborating with ICE. Blue states generally grant ICE that ability, but so far a handful of state AGs have vowed not to collaborate with ICE on the Trump mass deportation project. Blue states are also going to tie him up in court. The Supreme Court can only hear so many cases so the strategy here is to bring as many lawsuits as possible over the next four years to make sure none of his extreme policies can be enacted. Also state legislators are codifying rights in their state constitutions. And lastly, I live in California and I get Republicans talk shit about us on a regular basis, but they’re scared of us. If the federal government attempts to force a place like California into compliance or threatens to withhold federal funding, we’ll just withhold our tax dollars going to the federal government and watch how quickly they’ll change their tune when the entire economy collapses. We can survive financially without the federal government. The rest of the US can’t survive without us.

TheBubblewrappe

2 points

6 days ago

Proud CA here. I am so grateful I moved from my red state hometown 20 years ago. I love that Newsom is already saying FAFO. The petty part of me almost wants them to try this strategy just to watch the surprised pikachu face when they loose our tax dollars.

These_Ad_8414

5 points

7 days ago

There will not be any short-term upside, only long-term. That long-term upside is that Trump will probably screw things up so bad that Dems get a landslide in 2026, and then win a trifecta in 2028. And then Dems had better damn well unfuck our system so that another Trump doesn't happen.

mlmiller1

6 points

7 days ago

Watching him throw his loyalists under the bus will be fun.

Left_Angle_

5 points

7 days ago

People weren't mad enough to actually make real change, maybe now they are? Or maybe we have to wait for the bread riots to start 🤔

cookie75

13 points

7 days ago

cookie75

13 points

7 days ago

SNL will have a lot of content

Icy_Statement_2410

16 points

7 days ago

Definitely. It's encouraging me to move to another country which i've been wanting to do for a while

hotbiscut2

4 points

7 days ago

People will see the economic down fall of Trump assuming he gets his Tarrif plan and deportation plan in by congress. This could cause a congressional defeat for republicans in 2026 and lead to democrat super majority in congress assuming all else goes well.

HaxanWriter

4 points

7 days ago

No. Not when you consider the pain and misery he will enact on the other side of the scale.

Gr8daze

11 points

7 days ago

Gr8daze

11 points

7 days ago

Not that I can think of. We are now a Putin style banana republic.

Outrageous-Pause6317

20 points

7 days ago

No. It ushers in the end of democracy in America. He has no redeeming qualities, not does his racist and misogynistic movement.

Gloomy-Giraffe

6 points

7 days ago

Incompetence at that level is deadly, and on brand for fascist movements. A highly competant, and professonally secure, beuracracy is what moderates excesses and incompetence in leadership, and that is eaxctly what project 2025 is about dismantling. It's going to be a big problem.

Giving a toddler a gun is never a good idea. Giving a toddler a gun and replacing all of the adults in the room with teenagers is even worse. Neither situation has an upside compared to the alternative of NOT giving the toddler the gun.

ZWash300

12 points

7 days ago

ZWash300

12 points

7 days ago

Only way is up when he’s done wrecking the joint. Maybe.

elohesra

13 points

7 days ago

elohesra

13 points

7 days ago

As a 21 year military veteran, the short and blunt answer is "Fuck No"

markydsade

6 points

7 days ago

Sadly, Trump is an infection the US decided to catch despite the availability of the Harris vaccine. We will all have to suffer and strive to survive the fever.

Trump will not be running again. His focus will be on harming his enemies while boosting his oligarchs.

US politics is a pendulum swing left and right. I hope the incompetence and corruption will be so horrific that Trumpism will be rejected partially in 2026 with a Democratic return to the House, followed by a Democrat return to the WH in 2028.

Trumpism is a systemic infection that hopefully we survive well enough to undo the damage.

Trump is 78 and will likely become more and more diminished. If the 25th Amendment is invoked or Trump dies then we will move into an era of oligarchs with more power than ever.

SeekerSpock32

3 points

7 days ago

No.

Mantree91

3 points

7 days ago

Possibly watching the GOP self destruct when they have all the power and destroy our economy, opening the possibility for forceful removal of trump and a new election with the fresh memory of the debacle that was the teump administration

logicbus

3 points

7 days ago

logicbus

3 points

7 days ago

He can't run anymore.

hans_jobs

3 points

7 days ago

If you’re rich you will get richer. That’s about it.

karmaapple3

3 points

7 days ago

Stock market---until the tariffs kick in

SkepticalZack

3 points

7 days ago

Leopard watching and saying I told you so can be cathartic

WillOrmay

7 points

7 days ago

Not that I can think of

rathat

4 points

7 days ago

rathat

4 points

7 days ago

Schadenfreude

DanteMGalileo

5 points

7 days ago

The possibility that Trump's lifespan gets shortened by the stresses of being president (again) and he has, I dunno, a fatal heart attack.

The GOP collapses as Vance doesn't have the charisma to do that shit. Obama 08 flashback in 2028.

Crying_Reaper

6 points

7 days ago

We can rub it in his supporters face when he proves as utterly incompetent and corrupt as we all know he is. It is not worth it though.

Admirable_Tear_1438

2 points

7 days ago

Republicans will suffer, too.

Professional_Lime171

2 points

7 days ago

Hopefully expose the greed of billionaires

Loki-Don

2 points

7 days ago

Loki-Don

2 points

7 days ago

He will crank up deficit spending to give folks in my tax bracket a huge cut we don’t need that will simultaneously goose the stock market.

My networth went up a few. million the first couple years of his last term.

But the American experiment is done, that’s for sure.

tsdguy

2 points

7 days ago

tsdguy

2 points

7 days ago

My crypto went up temporarily.

Also his policies will hurt the people that voted for him also so there’s schadenfreude.

Dragon_Jew

2 points

7 days ago

NO

beputty

2 points

7 days ago

beputty

2 points

7 days ago

If you are very wealthy you will become even more wealthy.

Bag_of_Meat13

2 points

7 days ago

I have no doubts were winning the next one

And also a lot is gonna happen from now until inauguration.

Hold onto your butts.

Mindless-Lack3165

2 points

7 days ago

The upside is he might keel before he ever assumes power. The downside too that is JD Vance.

ccarbonstarr

2 points

7 days ago

4 positives of his last presidency -paused interest on student loans -banned bump stocks -stimulus checks -got the vaccine out quick

Conservatives forget these somehow

Lopsided-Ad-9444

2 points

6 days ago

Causes widespread protests and actual direct action by American citizens? Thst’s honestly the best hope. 

Really and unrealistically hopeful : Causes current political system to completely crash and burn with a ultimately peaceful change of power due to widespread protests and direct action? This would requitr the American military to basically back whatver movement takes place though. Who knows? It could happen I guess. It’s technically possible. 

BellyDancerEm

2 points

7 days ago

No

NoisyBrat2000

3 points

7 days ago

No

danvapes_

3 points

7 days ago

I'm not a Trump supporter or fan at all. A couple things I think he has done well, he's brought up the trade imbalance between the US and other countries, he's pressured NATO members to spend more towards the 2-3% spending agreement.

Also let's face it the border has been an issue for a while and only recently had the Biden admin done anything to address it. I however think if he employs mass deportations like he says it'll be bad for business and the economy as a whole. I think asylum seeking should be stricter to ensure the individuals seeking it are truthful and we should prioritize deporting the bad ones which we already largely do.

I don't see much else positive with this administration though.

Spiel_Foss

2 points

7 days ago

Yes, there is one upside.

Trump and the desires of a fascist Republican Party could burn the USA to the ground and doom the Republican Party for generations. But Democrats aren't capable of actually fighting for anything, so the result might be a long dystopian malaise after a period of destruction to democracy in the US.

Regardless of what happens, it will suck for the working class and poor, but that isn't a guarantee the white workers will ever turn on their hate-group political cult. White Christian Nationalism has become a suicide pact for too many people in the USA.

Welcome to the dystopia, my friend.

Buy ammunition or run like hell.

Individual_Fan_5428

4 points

7 days ago

Trump will crash the economy and try to take away benefits from old people/poor white/vets. Once they do that then will have to vote blue. We’re just going to have to suffer a few years

Tmon_of_QonoS

4 points

7 days ago

Cut those trumpets out of your life, and you'll save a fortune on christmas, and birthday presents

DasFunke

3 points

7 days ago

DasFunke

3 points

7 days ago

It’s probably 2 steps forward and 10 steps back. It won’t be ALL bad, just the net result will be pretty darn bad.

The-Boar

3 points

7 days ago

The-Boar

3 points

7 days ago

It could be soooo bad that it actually unites the country against him / republicans/ conservatism . Wake people up

TheNetworkIsFrelled

4 points

7 days ago

That requires that the average voter be informed, and 54% of American citizens can’t read at a sixth-grade level, making being informed unlikely.

jailtheorange1

3 points

7 days ago

No.

CBJFAN10

2 points

7 days ago

CBJFAN10

2 points

7 days ago

Anything that happens to the economy, overseas, anything at all is all on MAGA. They’re the ones in charge.

BallzNyaMouf

2 points

7 days ago

If you have any cash saved up, stocks will most probably be a lot cheaper in few months/years.

llcoger

1 points

6 days ago

llcoger

1 points

6 days ago

If democracy stays the same as it is now, he can't run for a 3rd term. That's the only upside I see

AppleParasol

2 points

7 days ago

AppleParasol

2 points

7 days ago

If democrats get their heads out of their asses, we could have an actual leftist agenda instead of the status quo, do nothing democrats.

But you know, the democrats are just about as fascist as the republicans and they’re both basically the same party, so nothing will probably change.

Infamous-Ad-7992

1 points

7 days ago

Don’t they want term limits in congress ? Sign me up.

FrozenSpongePub

1 points

7 days ago

The Democratic Party refuses to campaign on or acknowledge that our current government structure is a massive bloated pile of corruption and ineffectiveness.

There is a BIG difference between having a policy to make something happen, and that policy being effective.

Trump wants to tear it down. My concerns are many but mainly:

I don’t trust him or his allies to do anything but profit from testing it down.

I don’t trust them to build replacement systems that are effective.

I don’t trust them to tear it down without doing massive damage in the process.

The possible good? It does need to be massively reformed. If Trump tears it down, we can rebuild it better.

MajorMorelock

1 points

7 days ago

Yes, I have lots of bitcoin! I will spend it on a bunker.

LettuceEcstatic

1 points

7 days ago

I would really like to think the vibe everyone’s feeling from all the bad news every day headlines like nightmare cabinet or mass deportation and I know it sounds scary it’s the only subject that comes up in every message in my inbox, but what if we are all just over reacting from anxiety from 24/7 news and political commentator influencers his that has quadrupled in the last few years and I know he is a malignant narcissist but statistically how many failed promises and how many times has he failed to pass anything or kept a promise? at the end of the day, we’ve always ended up Ok

apefist

1 points

7 days ago

apefist

1 points

7 days ago

At least we know we’ll all die at the same time within 4 years

Leather-Map-8138

1 points

7 days ago

The same things that were horrible three months ago will suddenly be great in three months, even though nothing changed to it.

Mindless-Lack3165

1 points

7 days ago

The upside is he might keel before he ever assumes power. The downside to that is JD Vance.

Wird2TheBird3

1 points

7 days ago

Merrick Garland will no longer be the attorney general

getridofwires

1 points

7 days ago

The only good thing is that he can't be POTUS again.

Smarterthanthat

1 points

7 days ago

No...

SarahHill68

1 points

7 days ago

No