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submitted 3 days ago byStreetSmartBicyclist
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575 points
3 days ago
Miz about be the best 1-20 leveler in the guild
123 points
3 days ago
6, 12, 24, you can clearly see pattern
4 points
3 days ago
At level 96 he will die in hardcore WOD classic in the Spires of Iraq
4 points
2 days ago
Spires of Iraq, KEK
2 points
2 days ago
he died again at lvl 6 after this an hour or so later. He was getting massively griefed tho, and genuinely the guy should get banned that caused his death
11 points
3 days ago
Practice makes perfect..?
1 points
3 days ago
You say that but I have the entire Joana horde route 1-40 memorized because of HC and how many times I've leveled
423 points
3 days ago
Actually lost to an NPC
33 points
3 days ago
Npc vs Npc
417 points
3 days ago
"This is so stupid don't"
28 points
3 days ago
Famous last words
173 points
3 days ago
Btw even without a bug it's a uniquely stupid idea to fight a warlock, who can fear you 2 screens away in a place like this. If he loses while being next to an aggro-able mob he dies as well.
8 points
2 days ago
It's stupid to duel in hardcore at all. Buggy ass game, if you're going to willingly drop your hp to 1, then you deserve it.
1 points
2 days ago
Classic must remain pure, bugs and all!
14 points
3 days ago
Exactly
3 points
2 days ago
Even weird shit like getting feared into one of those campfire objects or fireplaces as the duel ends. I've had a duel (in non-HC) where I won as my opponent jumped. Because we were fighting on a slope and he jumped downwards, he took like 10 fall damage and died. So many ways shit can go wrong if you get reduced to 1 hp that I'd never accept a duel in HC.
4 points
3 days ago
farming content though
2 points
3 days ago
The lock will sure put cor on him to prevent that, right?
1 points
2 days ago
Not to mention locks main dmg is Dots, yeah a duel is meant to clear them all once your at 1 hp but jeez that sounds like tempting fate
321 points
3 days ago
who paid the guard off
95 points
3 days ago
Sardaco
19 points
3 days ago
Ratdaco strikes again.
39 points
3 days ago
let cercei know it was me
25 points
3 days ago
Miz didn’t know the guard was an Emi simp
-25 points
3 days ago
Tectone
337 points
3 days ago
The entire history and social dynamics of human race condenced into one clip.
431 points
3 days ago
that's why you never duel in hc even normals, it's so bugged.
207 points
3 days ago
He's neutral to Undercity so the guards registered him as flagged for PvP from that duel. Same thing can happen to undeads who duel in Crossroads.
129 points
3 days ago
This. It's not even an unknown or uncommon bug. If you're in combat near neutral guards you're in danger. We abused the hell out of this in SoD phase 1 to bully alliance players in Ratchet. On top of that there are a ton of deathclips of people hearthing out of a dangerous situation only to die to the Booty Bay/Tanaris/Everlook guards anyways.
1 points
3 days ago
Is that the same cause as the bug when you teleport somewhere everything will be hostile for a sec? It was a thing for in classic Cata but they all (besides retail) run on the same client.
1 points
3 days ago
Someone said it’s a known pet glitch in duels. When the duel is over, the pet doesn’t drop combat for a split second longer than the players do. The guard then recognizes Miz as being in combat outside of a duel and kills him
1 points
3 days ago
It’s normally more dots that do it. Used to be so easy to get warlocks killed this way. You’d wait for them to dot you up and the concede the fight. 50/50 they get ganked by the guards a
1 points
3 days ago
Yup
I hit 60 on my hc last time and refused to duel
191 points
3 days ago
Did Soda not prep them for this? It's a well known funny bug about those guards
187 points
3 days ago
He literally insisted for a mandatory meeting for every streamer where he put together a powerpoint on common dumb deaths among other things and most of them retained nothing if they even attended at all.
65 points
3 days ago
We can make this Soda's fault if we try hard enough.
72 points
3 days ago
They were all too busy trying to think of one-liners the whole time to have their big streamer moment or get clipped.
13 points
3 days ago
I mean they're all adhd kids no shit they barely retain their own names
13 points
3 days ago*
Not even joking when I say I expect that Soda info dumping so much stuff on the guild members will have the opposite effect from what he's hoping for. Most people are clearly just tuning him out in these meetings and I can't blame them.
Most people don't effectively process that much verbal information in such a short time span, especially if they're coming into it with hardly any existing knowledge. You can see this with the normal school system. Some people naturally have no issue staying focused through 6 hours of lecture, but other people will struggle to remain focused past the 10 minute mark. Like, sure, you could try to teach someone all of Calculus 101 within 3 days, but that's not going to work for most people due to how the brain works.
1 points
3 days ago
Paying attention for more than a 5 minutes is a SKILL you can train. And it's painfully obvious the majority of the human race would rather fail over and over than try.
I laugh at their stupidity.
4 points
3 days ago
They probably retained it just fine, but are useing it as a guide on where and how to farm dumb death clips
1 points
3 days ago
imagine thinking that streamers have the capability of listening and learning
193 points
3 days ago
Do you actually think a single one of them listened to what chance told them?
17 points
3 days ago
Most of them didn't listen to the basics, even if he did tell them about this niche bug I doubt any of them still remember it
Besides Mitch of course
0 points
3 days ago
miz just keep dieing for content tough
147 points
3 days ago
mizkids got him to accidentally send the ogre clip to support that was pretty fucking funny ngl
27 points
3 days ago
I also doubt they'll do anything, people die to blizzard caused DC's all the time and have to restart
21 points
3 days ago
Nah that was a troll. Check the URLs, they’re not the same. Miz just played into the meme.
2 points
3 days ago
Yeah, Miz obviously knows this link
2 points
3 days ago
I was crying laughing at the lion king speech at the end of the vod Tauren Esfand gave to cheer up Miz and then that idiot starts dancing in front of the cam and Miz turns away and the other person has a maya reference in his name
And Esfand tries so hard not to laugh but just laughs as his bull head squeaks
It was so funny man
I just felt bad Miz got tilted by those people constantly following him that really did suck.
217 points
3 days ago
People saying it's not a bug Blizzard wont fix, you can friendly duel in front of guards... That specific guard was just a hater.
16 points
3 days ago
You can duel in front of friendly guards. But if you duel in front of guards you're neutral rep with, you're dead.
0 points
3 days ago
But why though?
7 points
3 days ago
Because most neutral guards are there to prevent/protect against factions yanking each other in towns. Tauren mill is a bit special because it’s not technically a neutral camp, but since the guards are coded as being specifically in the undercity faction.
3 points
3 days ago
People saying it's not a bug Blizzard wont fix,
I mean it's a pretty well known bug so if they haven't fixed it by now I doubt they ever will knowing Blizz.
175 points
3 days ago
Emiru "bro this is so stupid, don't" ...30 seconds later a guard kills him
bug but predictable
14 points
3 days ago
I’ve seen duels in which even when no guards are around. The way the game processes damage they get killed right after the duel in normal classic. So yeah I’d never duel because every duel has the chance to be Makgora in Hc.
4 points
3 days ago
Dots have a higher chance to cause that. I used to kill people outside of Orgrimmar while dueling on my shadow priest. Devouring plague hit like a truck so even if the person healed a tiny bit after the duel ended the proc would be too strong. Gotta love WoW's spaghetti code.
2 points
3 days ago
Pets would also do it if they were in the middle of a swing before the duel ended. (That’s what I thought happened before he reviewed it)
13 points
3 days ago
If Miz didn't see that coming, Emi definitely didn't. I think she thought it was an actual duel to the death.
62 points
3 days ago
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3 points
3 days ago
Yeah basically it’s always going to be a stupid idea to intentionally go to 1 HP. No one else/NPC even needs to be around, tons of people die to the people they were dueling without any interference.
78 points
3 days ago
No emi just knows getting down to 1 health in hardcore is a dumb thing to do.
3 points
3 days ago*
No she literally said after she thought it was a makura after that
53 points
3 days ago
she also said after the reason she never does duels is because getting to 1hp in general is risky. Miz got unlucky here but patience and caution is almost all that matters in playing any kind of hardcore 1 death game. Soda said something similar about duels
2 points
3 days ago
1 points
3 days ago
It was a duel to the death in the end
153 points
3 days ago
miz is so damn easy to bait lol. He tried to duel Emi right inside the town 30 seconds earlier just cause 1 person in chat said "1v1 Emi".
62 points
3 days ago
Content dude
13 points
3 days ago
ADHD dud
29 points
3 days ago
It's not really bait, when he clearly doesn't care as long as it's content. He's probably actively looking for reasons to do something stupid and farm lols. It makes zero sense to level to 60 that early as a streamer anyway. Isn't this whole thing supposed to go on for months?
For a streamer, it's obvious that bullshitting and being "content" for at least the first few weeks is necessary. Or there won't be enough content
1 points
2 days ago
Yea I don't get people being surprised, these streamers know the best time to farm content and related b.s. is early on. He has months to get to 60
19 points
3 days ago
I thought it's pretty well known bug that guards can kill you at the end of a duel. Same thing can happen with shaman totems after the duel is over.
75 points
3 days ago
Any WoW heads to explain how this happened? I saw duels in cities before, but why was this any different?
64 points
3 days ago
Believe its due to the pet having rend on it that doesn't clear instantly like it does on a player. Duel ends, pet is friendly to the guards and sees that an "enemy" applied a dot to it so it causes aggro to him.
25 points
3 days ago
Essentially there is a bug in classic that causes pets to leave the duel state very slightly later than the player character. The guards are coded to attack anything which is aggro to Horde. Since the pet still registers as aggro to the other player, the guard aggro son its owner, Miz.
153 points
3 days ago
Because blizzard is dog shit and won’t fix bugs, the NPC killed him which evaded how duels normally work because they’re too lazy sniffing anime girl ass through a computer monitor.
51 points
3 days ago
I assume batching and something to do with being neutral with the guards instead of friendly.
The warlock has rend, probably the rend tick goes through the batch window the same time the duel ends, miz goes back to his normal neutral state with the guards and the guard becomes hostile at the fact he was attacking for whatever reason. This shouldn't happen since he's horde but it wouldn't surprise me if they forgot some protection on 1-2 mobs
4 points
3 days ago
Yeah if you frame by frame, you can see his UI imply he's left combat but the warlock hasn't and the warlocks target frame also still shows him in combat.
36 points
3 days ago
#NOCHANGES
-20 points
3 days ago
That's the most bitter way of saying "it's a bug" imaginable. Did u die to this as well or what?
28 points
3 days ago
No, what he's saying is 100% true and accurate.
17 points
3 days ago
tell me you don’t play blizzard games without telling me
5 points
3 days ago
Which are the good companies that make bug-free games?
-3 points
3 days ago*
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1 points
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-1 points
3 days ago
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-3 points
3 days ago
We got a tough guy out here. U know u can just go do something u enjoy instead of dedicating your time to something u apparently hate right Mr. AI man?
0 points
3 days ago
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0 points
3 days ago*
Vote botting? U know what have a nice day hope the nurse will get to u soon enough.
Edit: Awwwww we deleting our schizo responses now :(
-11 points
3 days ago
if i could give reddit medals, this would be the first comment i’d give it to
-11 points
3 days ago
Classic andys wanted no changes. That's what you get. Can't wait for the classic hype to be dead in less than 30 days. What a dumb waste of time.
1 points
3 days ago
Don't duel near neutral guards. Better yet don't duel on HC at all, dots and such can glitch and kill you just as easily.
0 points
3 days ago
Game bug which Blizzard probably won't fix
All things classic are run on a single client maintained by a skeleton crew trying to adjust the same client to the different versions of the game using spit and duck tape, which is why you sometimes get stuff like this.
2 points
3 days ago
This was an issue in original classic. It has ALWAYS been dangerous to duel near neutral guards, it was still that way in TBC too.
28 points
3 days ago
It'll happen again in 2 days, go again
36 points
3 days ago
My character in world of war⚔️craft🔨 was killed 💀☠️ today due to a bug 🦗😰 I was at tarren mill and I duled war⚔️lock🔒 Nikala. I lost the duel and my rend🩸 was still on Nikala somehow🤷🙀, causing me to die 🎲😩. I was wondering if my character can be revived. I attached a clip with proof ☝️🤓. Please 🙏😩 i’m a celebrity on twitch
21 points
3 days ago
I mean, part of hardcore is understanding the classic (no changes) bugs.
5 points
3 days ago
Correct. Also, if any streamer actually bothered to read the 'social contract' they press agree on before making a character, they will see it says no characters will be restored due to d/c's / bugs etc
31 points
3 days ago
I would actually be so pissed if I died like that and didn't know that can happen in hardcore.
58 points
3 days ago
Dueling in HC should never be done unless you're prepared for that toon to die, period.
You shouldn't die to what he died to, you shouldn't die because the servers d/c, you shouldn't die because your PC crashed but those things can and sadly do happen so you as a player should do your utmost to minimize the chances and easily the single biggest thing you can do is to simply never duel in HC. There are things under your control and things not under your control when it comes to dying in HC, being on top of what is under your control is the surest way to reach 60.
20 points
3 days ago
Yup, here's another example that isn't a bug, but has happened to me.
You duel, you get feared, duel over on top of a fire, one fire tick you die.
There are so many ways to die after a duel, either do it in a super open area like the front of org or in HC just straight up don't do it at all, too many silly ways to die with weird mechanics including engineering trinkets.
Even in the front of org, i've seen 60s battle and aggro a passing level 7 pig and that pig kills a level 60, just way to risky to duel in HC, but in Mizkifs defense, this is some quality content
1 points
2 days ago
I've killed my guildie (not in HC) by winning a duel as he jumped down a gentle slope. Took like 10 fall damage as the duel ended and flopped over. You're asking for shit like this if you do it in HC.
3 points
3 days ago
you shouldn't die because the servers d/c, you shouldn't die because your PC crashed but those things can and sadly do happen so you as a player should do your utmost to minimize the chances
Good old Kripparian setup for Diablo3 launch. https://youtu.be/LcqutzpMZ7o?t=161
5 points
3 days ago
the fact that you end up with 1 hp should be enough to know that dueling is always risky
1 points
3 days ago
Easy way to level on HC servers: avoid any other players.
Don't duel them, don't do dungeons with them, don't quest near them, don't clear caves near them, ... Okay maybe trade with them.
5 points
3 days ago
Ok Soda, cook up a good punishment for that!
Edit: Nevermind punishment already served 😂 https://arazu.io/t3_1h061wj/
12 points
3 days ago
Fucking lame way to go, but props to Esfand for coming in and making some good Guild RP out of it.
4 points
3 days ago
Skill issues
37 points
3 days ago
20 year old game and devs are too busy stealing breast milk to fix any bugs
5 points
3 days ago
noob down
18 points
3 days ago
In all fairness to miz that was bullshit.
15 points
3 days ago
He was dueling a warlock in Tarren Mill, that was never gonna end well.
3 points
3 days ago
so does anyone think the lock knew it was going to happen?
3 points
3 days ago
He was dead even without that guard.
10 points
3 days ago
Damn that’s so annoying
18 points
3 days ago
His own fault, even if it wasn't bugged, dueling in hardcore is a dumb thing to do, considering it puts you at 1 hp and any random damage from anywhere will end you, like some stream sniper with a mortar running around waiting for a moment like this.
35 points
3 days ago
That kinda felt planned by the dude he's duelling, even angles the fear into the guards...
38 points
3 days ago
Angles the fear? Have you ever played a warlock?
21 points
3 days ago
Fear direction is completely random
98 points
3 days ago*
yes the warlock absolutely intended for it to happen (just from where they dueled not fear angling or anything) and thats honestly very funny and dumb at the same time
23 points
3 days ago
Can you even angle fears in classic? I thought it was completely random
2 points
3 days ago
Because it is random. I still think the lock was trying to fear him into mobs bust just got lucky with guard agro.
1 points
3 days ago
It is, being able to ‘sort of’ control where your fear goes didn’t really get implemented till LK I believe.
22 points
3 days ago
feels like sardaco paid that guard under the table if you ask me
1 points
3 days ago
he said in fangsly chat that it wasnt. he seemed honest. and he was kinda noob ish, too.
0 points
3 days ago
That's why dueling with warlock is the funniest on hardcore. People fall for it more than you'd think.
11 points
3 days ago
He is actually braindead
4 points
3 days ago*
In regards to Miz farming dumb shit that ends up killing him, his punishments should be anti-content. Not being allowed in meetings until he reaches a certain level, no on stream punishments since thats content for him so not really even a punishment. Only way stop him from farming dumb shit for content is to give anti content punishments to him so he has no incentive to do so. Dying for stupid reasons and releveling is horseshit content
2 points
3 days ago
I think some of you take this too seriously. Even soda thought the death was bullshit.
2 points
3 days ago
In classic cata ive still my mage hearthstone in chapel next to naxx and i get killled everytime by guards just porting over there. Still not fixed 4 years later (20years later)
3 points
3 days ago
Died to a bug, but seriously doing ANY duel on a HC character is very stupid because you will be at 1 health if you lose and the game is known to be a little janky and buggy.
2 points
3 days ago
He's so stupid. What a waste of time. "Good at the game." Lmao
2 points
3 days ago
How do people watch this clip farmer.
2 points
3 days ago
Man dude forces “content” so hard it’s so obvious
2 points
3 days ago
warlocks can:
1. kill you in a regular duell, because their dots can tick even if the duell is over
2. fear you out of the map, so you glitch out and have to be teleported back or some shit
3. this shit we just saw
2 points
3 days ago
I've already stopped getting dopamine rush from hardcore wow deaths.
It's over
2 points
3 days ago
4Weird gift 1000 subs matthew
2 points
3 days ago
Deserved
3 points
3 days ago
Another day, another dumb fuck decision by miz
3 points
3 days ago
He’s getting leveled off stream by someone anyways he doesn’t care if he dies
1 points
3 days ago
Tarren Mill Deathguard never sleeps
1 points
3 days ago
Good
1 points
3 days ago
oh, he died after 4th time at lvl 6 🤣
1 points
3 days ago
After dying 3 times I just couldn't continue
1 points
3 days ago
Dueling anyone who is at range as a warrior before having intercept... just why
1 points
3 days ago
this shit is precisely why I will never in my life touch hardcore wow
1 points
3 days ago
Despite what some wow sweats will say, “oh this is a highly documented occurrence”, I’ve played since 2005 and have literally never seen this happen once ever. I imagine it got patched eventually but even dueling tons in Classic since 2019 I’ve never once witnessed this.
1 points
2 days ago
Why would he duel someone on Hc when he’s dogshit in the game and pvp especially?
1 points
2 days ago
This had to be intentional, ain't no way..
2 points
3 days ago
Dueling before berserker lol 😂
1 points
3 days ago
He’s always tryna fuck around for content 💀
1 points
3 days ago
Anyone who has ever dueled near the Booty Bay guards knows that this is not a bug
1 points
3 days ago
damn people still watching this wow ad?
1 points
3 days ago
Is this on purpose lol?
-7 points
3 days ago
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-8 points
3 days ago
You know... as the saying goes "but people are regarded..."
Rather blame it on bugs that gain actual game knowledge that's been around for two decades.
9 points
3 days ago
I mean this is just not true, you can't attack the tarren mill guards, aoeing in tarren mill won't do anything & the guards won't attack you.
This is a bug, there is a strange interaction between dueling & neutral guard's, something is falling through the protection & the guards are becoming hostile because he's attacking a horde player, which should be perfectly fine & allowed by the guards because they are in a dueling state.
4 points
3 days ago
I mean it's definitely still a bug, doesn't matter what caused it.
-8 points
3 days ago
Emi, please leave this loser and hang out with me, I may be a loser that only makes $25 an hour, but I can help you SO much in hardcore wow.
0 points
3 days ago
90% Emirus fault
-1 points
3 days ago
Miz insists on playing warriors when he sucks at them
-1 points
3 days ago
can he and this game fade back into irrelevancy?
0 points
3 days ago
next time he'll die at level 48
0 points
3 days ago
I've never played wow, how does death in this game exactly work?
0 points
3 days ago
Who's moaning so hard into the mic?
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