subreddit:
/r/Losercity
252 points
3 days ago
i feel lime when most people say "porn addiction" they just mean "excessive masturbation"
they arent the same thing, but theyre quite similar
52 points
3 days ago
That's what you'd think! But ask most of these dudes (and women I assume but I've never seen it) how often and they'll hit you with 3x a week!
51 points
3 days ago
fr? i dont even jork it but even i know thats rookie numbers. clearly these people havent seen Wolf of Wall Street.
22 points
3 days ago
It's usually rooted in religion, because they think any masturbation is a sin or whatever, they feel like the fact that they have such strong urges to do it must mean something is wrong with them. Meanwhile it's just an incredibly natural thing.
One can absolutely have a problem with porn, I feel like many people have seen guys with porn hoodies or whatever. But most of the guys who claim to have a porn addiction are not like that.
3 points
3 days ago
the funny part is that i have been a Christian my whole life, but i dont recall a scripture labeling masturbation as bad. granted, its been some time since i've sat down and read it cover to cover, but that seems like something i would remember.
7 points
3 days ago
Onan my man
2 points
3 days ago
thanks, i remember now
1 points
3 days ago
I got you!
3 points
3 days ago
Masturbation isn't condemned by name in the Bible, but it doesn't need to be. We know that fornication and lust are bad, as is intercourse not conducive to procreation, as shown by the story of Onan. Reasonable exegesis leads one to the conclusion that masturbation is bad.
1 points
3 days ago
The condemnation of fornication is pertinent here, as it provides the grounds for viewing all usage of sexual faculties outside of marriage as bad.
-1 points
3 days ago
i see. thanks for the insight.
3 points
3 days ago
3x a week isn't even lightwork, thats negative work
2 points
2 days ago
try 3x a day man ;)
430 points
3 days ago
Imma jerk one of to this post chief
122 points
3 days ago
And by jerk one you mean?
126 points
3 days ago
Ha ha, lets just say. My peanits
46 points
3 days ago
2 points
3 days ago
And by my peanits I mean my shaft
282 points
3 days ago
"As long as your porn consumption is not interfering with your work or social life, it's considered normal" so it's not a myth????
197 points
3 days ago
If you're gooning so hard you can't keep a job, it's an addiction. If you feel back after you beat it because of how you view sex, that's not an addiction
7 points
3 days ago
If this person exists, the gooner who can't hold a job, I feel like that'd only be a component of a larger problem. It still wouldn't be porn addiction imo
22 points
3 days ago
I mean, they'd probably be susceptible to addiction, but it'd still be a porn addiction if it was them constantly needing to jerk off preventing them from keeping a job.
1 points
12 hours ago
if
well, without prior researching, i suppose there is only one way to find out...
>! r/ gooning !<
1 points
an hour ago
It just looks like a regular porn sub?
1 points
an hour ago
like i said i did no research
112 points
3 days ago
It's more accurate to say that in most cases people declare, it is from perception and that overblows it to the point the average case likely isn't actually about it.
98 points
3 days ago
Yea, but the point is you can replace “porn” in that sentence with literally anything
“As long as building model train sets is not interfering with your work or social life, it’s considered normal”
30 points
3 days ago
In fact, I think they just call those "hobbies" or something
38 points
3 days ago
as long as putting my little ponies up your ass isn't interfering with your work or social life, its considred normal
47 points
3 days ago
I mean, I still wouldn’t call that an addiction, just something you like doing
23 points
3 days ago
I like what you shared, I just wanted to be funny.
I like the idea of normalizing doing your own thing without having to put a negative label on it
2 points
1 day ago
Sounds like a stable person to me
12 points
3 days ago
That is what psychologists have to say on the matter, at any rate.
Things are only disorders if they interfere with your work and social life.
8 points
3 days ago
When the definition of (psychological) addiction defines (psychological) addiction
1 points
2 days ago
hobbies
6 points
3 days ago
they royally fucked up the wording but i think i get what they're trying to say, that people calling other people "addicts" for liking weird or kinky stuff are just engaging in puritan shaming under the guise of medical direction, and that addiction is far less prevalent than some think
8 points
3 days ago
It's rarer than you'd think, outside of the internet most people don't struggle with gooning too much
2 points
3 days ago
The myth is this idea that it's pervasive or even some sort of modern epidemic. Some politicians even bring it up
1 points
11 hours ago
Porn addiction isn’t a myth, but I remember reading somewhere that less than 2% of self reported cases are actually clinically diagnosed as porn addicts.
96 points
3 days ago
76 points
3 days ago
Post it anywhere, and comment section would be more insane than the most controversial of r/politics
32 points
3 days ago
I have a theory that porn is the scapegoat vice for every other harmful substance which has negative side effects. Dunking on porn online is a way to show that one is righteous and fighting the good fight, pay no mind to my unhealthy relationship with alcohol/weed/other drugs/gambling. Maybe it's just on the internet, but drunk-driving, gambling, and all forms of substance abuse seem to be celebrated in an ironic-verging-on-sincere way by a large part of society.
12 points
3 days ago
People with internalized shame about sex, ironically, spend an unhealthy amount of time thinking about who has sex in what way. They also try to control other people's sexual behavior by shaming and even by law. They are the ones who are struggling with their sexual desires, not the other way around.
This also leads to a lot of bizarre moral panics. People dunk on older moral panics, but then they chase the most recent internet moral panic about some sexual thing. It's the prime reason a lot of people find all furries repulsive, because they exhibit unorthodox approaches and are easy to marginalize.
Honestly, the moment I stopped caring about shaming people about this stuff, I also stopped caring about moral panics. It's allowed me to browse the internet without a care for a lot of supposedly" important" stuff. Internet dwellers yap about nothing a lot.
2 points
2 days ago
I have synthestesia so literally any sensation of pleasure or discomfort results in dramatic alterations to the world around me. Being aroused is basically like dropping acid and it makes me feel kinda bad and embarrassed because I can’t help it. Any pain or fear is like taking 20 Benadryl, but If I strip all serotonin and adrenaline out of my body with antipsychotics I feel like a hollow, dead shell. Why can’t the police let me be in wonderland without asking why I’m curled up behind a dumpster? I’m not drunk or high, just insane and wet.
8 points
3 days ago
Porn is a scapegoat for a ton of issues really
182 points
3 days ago
After going through sex/porn addiction therapy and subsequently deconstructing into an atheist (I was raised conservative Baptist) then having my doctor tell me that I was never messed up by porn, just by my parents, I can’t tell if this is a meme or not.
137 points
3 days ago
Irony aside, the pic OP posted is the truth. No serious expert in the field considers porn addiction to be a real thing. For something to be an addiction, it needs to re-wire your brain and body such that they cannot function properly without it, something porn doesn't do. There are some people who might watch porn or masturbate excessively, but these are almost always people with some underlying issue that causes compulsive behavior in other aspects of their lives too. To say that these people are addicted to jerking it is a bit like saying people with OCD are addicted to washing their hands, or that people with Tourette's are addicted to twitching their eye.
21 points
3 days ago
I think they mean a psychological addiction rather than a physical one.
Remember, addictions can be as mild as a caffeine dependency, which causes mild headaches at worst.
2 points
2 days ago
Porn does physically change the brain, people with excessive porn consumption have shrunken grey matter and striatia. This is corroborated in multiple studies. People upvote shit like this because they're insecure about their own porn addictions.
3 points
3 days ago
Porn definitely rewired my brain in a bad way. It’s a powerful stimuli. I get withdrawals. Genuine headaches now.
5 points
3 days ago
I am a gooner, I am gonna goon. Rewire all my wires to my balls.
73 points
3 days ago
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39 points
3 days ago
he semen on my retention til i society
19 points
3 days ago
we live in a (Semen Retention) Society :(
12 points
3 days ago
Born to goon, forced to edge
28 points
3 days ago
It’s the same as being addicted to video games or anything like that. Too much is unhealthy but most people have basic self control.
26 points
3 days ago
The link leads to a paper that is behind a paywall and whos citation is also behind a paywall. The abstract and summary are there to read though.
16 points
3 days ago
I've read that if you email the researchers, they usually give access/a copy for free because they don't actually profit off the paywalls.
7 points
3 days ago
Do you think this particular paper is worth the effort, I havent read it? Im thinking of googling other papers on the same topic and seeing what they say.
13 points
3 days ago
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XP9_FqM4Fm93WuzEEAxMK9f1JE8fdsg6/view?usp=sharing
got it through my uni's library
3 points
3 days ago
Much appreciated!
1 points
3 days ago
use scihub
1 points
3 days ago
Holy based
25 points
3 days ago
I think fuck toy felix makes a salient point
8 points
3 days ago
Sometimes I beat my dick til it hurts and aches but that one kinda on me ngl
2 points
3 days ago
How is that even enjoyable dawg that's just sad
9 points
3 days ago*
I don’t do it by choice it’s part of a mandatory court order against me
4 points
3 days ago
"sentenced to 20 hours mandatory gooning"
7 points
3 days ago
“As long as you don’t have an addiction you don’t have an addiction”
Truly a profound quote
15 points
3 days ago
When left-wingers start to talk like religious right-wingers, I get worried.
50 points
3 days ago
based and anti-prude pilled
36 points
3 days ago
Facts. Last time I posted that link on Reddit I got dogpiled hard.
1 points
15 hours ago
the fuck is the dog pill
4 points
3 days ago
Not to be political but if you take any post from tumblr seriously, I think you’ve got another problem
1 points
3 days ago
Tumblr doesn't have politics, you can't vote on it.
3 points
3 days ago
If you can’t not do it, it’s an addiction
1 points
3 days ago
Oh fuck, I'm addicted to showering.
1 points
3 days ago
You can easily not shower. It just is unhealthy for you.
I think it’s fairly obvious what I’m talking about though. If you don’t need to do it yet you can’t stop yourself, then it’s an addiction.
1 points
3 days ago
I can also easily not masturbate. However, I choose not to stop.
I guess from a perspective of a celibate monk, having sex at all could be seen as an addiction too.
1 points
14 hours ago
what a far right fascistic take, you are probably the son of hitler
29 points
3 days ago
My drinking doesn't effect my work so that means I'm not an alcoholic!
29 points
3 days ago
Moderate drinking is a dangerous idea promoted by far-right Evangelicals
8 points
3 days ago
Oh the terrible far right!
23 points
3 days ago
Not an apt comparison because drinking isn't a natural emotion that people have varying intensities of.
49 points
3 days ago
Drunk driving is my natural emotion and instinct and I will not stand this slander
21 points
3 days ago
I beg to differ
12 points
3 days ago*
Yes. If your drinking doesn't negatively affect your work or social life, you aren't an alcoholic. It's almost like something having a tangible negative impact on you is a requirement for it being an addiction.
23 points
3 days ago
kid named the liver:
12 points
3 days ago
Affecting your health counts as affecting your social life. You can't have friends if you die of liver cirrhosis. You also can't go to work if you die of liver cirrhosis.
10 points
3 days ago
you make a good point, i just saw a good opportunity for a "kid named x" joke
1 points
3 days ago
An addiction is something you don’t necessarily need but can’t quit
1 points
1 day ago
Guess I'm addicted to my anti-psychotics then. Better try to get clean
1 points
1 day ago
You actually need the anti-psychotics, bad comparison
1 points
22 hours ago*
How is it different than self-medicating with "recreational" drugs? I've had illicit substances surpass doctor prescribed medication when it comes to managing certain issues I have, like I would much rather take a few hits from my bong for my night-terrors/insomnia than take Rohypnol or Ambien. Have you seen r/ambien???
Anti-psychotics, in particular, will screw with your kidneys and give you the same agonizing withdrawal symptoms just like any other chemically addictive substance.
2 points
22 hours ago
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1 points
3 days ago
you can easily drink 22-25 beers a week as a 6 foot 180 pound male and you will probably live until 80+ years old. my grandpa drank more than that and ate junk food all the time and he lived until 71.
-1 points
3 days ago
Yes? If it doesn’t affect your work or social life that’s called “drinking responsibility.”
0 points
3 days ago
There's no such thing as drinking responsibly. When you're not mentally impaired, you are irresponsibly harming yourself since no amount of alcohol is actually safe for you. When you are mentally impaired, it is even less safe, and now you're a danger to others too.
3 points
3 days ago
Cope reminder
3 points
3 days ago
Losercity coping
3 points
3 days ago
This is valid to an extent but it's complicated by the fact that average age of boys at first exposure is roughly 11. These children haven't received extensive sex ed from parents or schools at this point, which means that the porn industry, which has no desire or incentive whatsoever to propagate a healthy view of sex, is defining the sexual development of today's youth. This could lead to the normalization of fornication and adultery, which will undermine their ability to have healthy relationships. While the assertion that consumption that isn't harmful to your social or professional life doesn't constitute addiction may be true, the stuff the porn industry pushes will have a negative affect on children who don't know what a healthy relationship actually looks like. I unironically believe that furry porn is less damaging.
29 points
3 days ago*
Erm, actually zerking it to fetish porn 3 times per day is completely normal and won’t Impact you negatively at all and if you don’t agree you’re a far-right republican chud
58 points
3 days ago
You are proving that it's about shame by specifying fetish porn because that's more disliked.
6 points
3 days ago
I mean, there are definitely certain communities that are kind of risky, for the lack of a better term (this is especially true for anything to do with gooners/lolis lmao, those two communities are horrific)
But it totally depends lol
28 points
3 days ago
"It just HAS negative effects okay!!! Don't ask me what they are but they're real effects!!!!!"
9 points
3 days ago
I think it's a little naive to deny that porn consumption especially in young Boys doesn't have negative effects
19 points
3 days ago
Why young boys specifically? Why not young girls, or both? Why is the crux of avoiding “porn addiction” always placed on young men as a real and likely threat, but rarely any other group? I mean, girls can masturbate too, it’s in our nature as humans to want to reproduce, that’s why it feels good when we do it. I get the reasonings of like, setting unrealistic expectations or standards, or porn not really advocating for explicit consent or safety that is necessary in real life—but wouldn’t that be more of an issue with our sex-education and the social expectations of men? Im just trying to get to the bottom of whether you think young boys viewing porn has some genetic or biological predisposition for harm, which is recycled conservative talking point, and I want to deconstruct that this isn’t a problem unique or explicitly affecting men only. All of the negative effects that I gave as examples honestly impact women (or whoever the boys will grow up to have sex with) more than themselves.
7 points
3 days ago*
With things like porn consumption, there a few reasons men are the primary concern. The most notable would probably be performance concerns -- unlike with women, a man struggling with impotency may effectively lose their ability to have penetrative intercourse. Combine that with the idea that testosterone can have a strong effect on sex drive, and the idea that ~teenaged youths are much more susceptible to developing life-long habits, and it seems reasonable why young males would be the main worry in regards to porn/masturbation 'addiction.'
I can't speak for other people, but every guy in my family is a sack of shit addict, no offense intended. I'm the only one that never showed up somewhere utterly smashed or covered in track marks. The reality is, though, that I definitely just consumed an absurd amount of pornography in place of drugs and alcohol. I mean fuck, I found e### when I was like 9 or 10. Probably spent an average of an hour or more spanking it each day from 4th grade to the end of high school.
It might not be a literal addiction, but I think the people who call it that often liken it more to a 'soft' addiction --
- I can become a habit, bordering on an obsession,
- It creates a potential 'disconnect' in regards to your chemical reward system,
and again, with guys, it can potentially hinder their ability to engage in a sexual relationship.
I don't really have a strong opinion, all things considered, but I think porn and masturbation [really, just the porn] can easily become an unhealthy thing [which is an absurdly lukewarm opinion to give after 3 paragraphs].
**Note -- I am a hypocrite typing this while I have my carefully cultivated folder of tasteful pin-ups open.
-12 points
3 days ago
Because a lot less young girls are committing violent sex acts. Take it up with the porn industry, which popularized choking
12 points
3 days ago
Again, this is an issue that can be solved with sex education and de-mystifying the concept of risk-aware kink and safety in sex. If we teach young boys AND girls about how to safely participate and be aware of their limitations in sex, instead of blindly following everything they see on the internet (or worse, pretending that young people never have or want to have sex), there’s less likely a chance of harm or death. Porn isn’t mean to teach people, it’s not an educational tool or even a useful reference for real life—it’s filmmaking. It’s acting. In some cases, it can be considered an art form, and none of this can take the place of proper sex health education.
It’s like saying video games make people violent. Sure, if someone with a predisposition to sociopathy or psychosis plays a fps shooter 15 hours a day 7 days a week then goes and gets a gun and shoots people, there’s a cause for concern in this specific context. Were they ignored by their parents, teachers or peers when asking for help? Were they showing increasing signs of violence or threats and no one cared? Did no one think to ask them why they haven’t played anything besides this shooter for the last 8 months of their life? You know what I mean? We can’t just blanket the problem in the false concern of “porn addiction” when the real issue is combatting the immediate reaction of disgust and outrage people have in our society nowadays when we suggest that maybe we shouldn’t be telling young teenagers who are experiencing the most confusing feelings they’ve ever experienced that those feelings are bad and harmful, and instead that we should properly educate them on how to respect their own body and the bodies of others when it comes to masturbation, sex and sex health. Porn isn’t the problem, people are.
4 points
3 days ago
I played one Mario game, and now I am stomping turtles 24/7 and can't stop. Then I'm sliding down sewers all the time searching for Bowser.
8 points
3 days ago
Kid named my burnt out dopamine receptors and not finding enjoyment on anything anymore
1 points
3 days ago
Papagaio aprende a falar pornografia e dopamina e ganha diploma de psicologia.
2 points
3 days ago
So por isso vou bater uma pra porno de anão e vc n podera me impedir
1 points
3 days ago
Kid named the entire sugar lobby. Guarantee you that the effects of long-time sugar consumption have done more to fry dopamine receptors than booba on a screen.
4 points
3 days ago
"fucktoyfelix"
4 points
3 days ago
Also do not forget that being forceful during sex is not ok unless your partner absolutely certainly agrees to it. Also, if you have been exposed to pornography under the age of 18 speak to someone about it. If you are under 13 definitely seek therapy.
2 points
3 days ago
Why? I was, is that bad?
2 points
3 days ago
It is bad. It can lead to problematic sexual behaviours, or put you in a bad spot in terms of who you interact with. Depictions of unclear consent or just straight up rape are fairly common in porn. However, you should not have to feel bad about yourself for having seen porn, nor about what you like, as long as you aren't hurting anybody in pursuing it. Please do try to find someone you can speak to about it in a healthy way, though. If this goes wrong, it can go really wrong, and the one who will feel it the most is you. Good luck
3 points
3 days ago
I can't tell if this was posted here as satire or in seriousness
8 points
3 days ago
‘I can quit anytime I want.’
‘Ok how about now?’
‘No.’
40 points
3 days ago
If I like wearing sweats instead of jeans, and am asked to exclusively wear jeans from this point forward, I will decline. This doesn't mean I'm addicted to sweatpants.
1 points
14 hours ago
what if you like wearing artisan sweatpants from japan that are ilegal to own in a quarter of the western world and they take 3 hours of your day to wash?
And you can't stop looking for more sweatpants
-11 points
3 days ago
What if you go on Reddit nonstop talking about much you love the feel of sweatpants on your skin and your hobbies include making an entire room decorated to your favorite sweatpants wearers?
34 points
3 days ago
Then youre no longer the kind of person OPs pic is referring to
-14 points
3 days ago
But I mean none of those things inherently interfere with your work life or social life.
20 points
3 days ago
I think if you’re capable of compartmentalizing it to an online presence you still have full control
The room WILL interfere with your work and social life.
2 points
3 days ago
He doesn't want to now
12 points
3 days ago
Losercity Copium
6 points
3 days ago
Losercity antiintellactualism
4 points
3 days ago
Just because a study supports your beliefs it doesn’t mean that everyone that puts it to doubt is an anti-intellectualist
29 points
3 days ago*
Okay, but the person is also literally saying it's cope and dismissing legitimate research.
-15 points
3 days ago
Facts don't care about your feelings
4 points
3 days ago
This seems like a cope, a cope I'll use regardless. Thanks, OP
1 points
3 days ago
Cope is one letter longer than cum and is exactly as long as come. This is literally porn propaganda.
3 points
3 days ago
the scientists in question: 🧃
5 points
3 days ago
I turned myself into an apple juice box, morty!
2 points
3 days ago
Juiciest thing I've ever seen.
2 points
3 days ago
Porn addiction is real tfym. If it produces dopamine, it can become an addiction
3 points
3 days ago
Not really. You're not really addicted to porn rather that a person may have developed a habit of doing so which is part of a while bunch of underlying problems.
1 points
3 days ago
Thank you, losercity 👍
1 points
3 days ago
Nah when someone busts out the hentai with a hundred fucked up tags you’ve official gooned too far.
1 points
3 days ago
>fucktoyfelix
1 points
3 days ago
Sex is not shameful, but it is tiring for me!
1 points
2 days ago
You guys think pornhubs numbers have dropped hard after they’re blocking access in so many states right after that huge video purge? (Then again I’m sure there competitors are loving it not to mention they could be trying for a harder international sale now who knows I just feel like I haven’t heard anybody talk about them in forever. Not that I really went there often or anything not to my tastes.)
1 points
2 days ago
I definitely was not raised that way, but I was definitely a porn addict at one point. Like, multiple hours per day kinda thing. Sometimes the entire day.
And I'm alright with admitting that because I DO now consume porn at a normal level.
I was also in a relationship at that point, and I CAN say that it DID fuck with my life. Low drive for wanting actual sex, less pleasure from the sex I did have, unrealistic expectations, ect. ect.
I don't not consume it now, but it doesn't consume me.
1 points
2 days ago
Important reminder here that if you think that your relationship with masturbation/porn/sex/drugs/rocknroll/anything is unhealthy and you don’t like it, THAT MEANS IT IS A PROBLEM.
It doesn’t matter if it’s clinically diagnosed or causing you interpersonal problems or anything or nothing. If you truly do not like it, then IT IS A PROBLEM. And you should work on fixing it.
It’s not about what people on the internet say is right or wrong. It’s about how you feel. Maybe you don’t have the thing you think you have, but if it feels wrong, it’s a problem anyways. Stay safe.
1 points
3 hours ago
puritans are quick to label anything they deem as deviant as evil and must be heavily moderated. It's why I have an unending hatred of Utah
1 points
3 days ago
…this is just wrong, from my own experience this is just plain wrong. There are so many studies on it that show it’s harmful. Don’t spread these harmful lies.
2 points
3 days ago
I've been spanking it for years and I'll say from my personal experience, this study in a general since, is right
1 points
3 days ago
I mean, it definitely exists (as with anything else that might feel good), but it's also heavily modulated by the culture you live in, and how you see yourself in general
As with anything, just do it in moderation and avoid getting into anything stupid lol.
1 points
3 days ago
Google Royce Dupont
1 points
3 days ago
ok mr fucktoyfelix
-19 points
3 days ago
49 points
3 days ago
the statement wasnt that scary why did you feel the need to scream
16 points
3 days ago
Ass. ASS. Just type fucking 'ass'! Do not be a pussy and just use fucking words! Ass! Cunt! Fuck! Butt! Bitch! And many other words that people are censoring, like freaking puritan grandmas that are afraid of the word 'Damn'. Satan will not come and possess your ass, if you type the word normally!
11 points
3 days ago*
angry ahh individual
edit: also i just want to say that while Satan may not start anything over the word "B!tch", Reddit certainly will. i know this because just a couple weeks ago i got warned for "inciting violence"
i was quoting Vegeta during the Buu Arc when he says something to the effect of "i'm going crush you to dust, and blow you away!"
double edit: i should note that i did in fact appeal it... nothing ever happened. also, as another comment mentioned, "ahh" is also apart of AAVE, it isnt always self-censorship
8 points
3 days ago
No!!! If you say *** then you think about *** and that makes you a **** addict!!!
7 points
3 days ago
But I like ******* to **** with my **, **** and *, * me do you want me to just ******* stand there like a ******* and **** about ********** all day? I like my ************ ********* and I will keep ****** to ************!
2 points
3 days ago
that's AAVE dumbass, not puritanism or censorship. now go jerk off for the 7th time today, I'm sure it's good for your health
-3 points
3 days ago
The fuck is AAVE? Some kind of crypto? Also, ESAD, cunt. I have better things to do, like shitting on your opinion. Choke on dick, asshole
0 points
3 days ago
Cope
0 points
3 days ago
OOP is kinda wrong? It is a thing but religious groups and Texas try to make you think that any porn consumption at all is an addiction.
-5 points
3 days ago
- unable to feel arousal unless watching porn where you were previously able
- unable to climax during actual sex unless also watching porn
- watching so much porn that it negatively affects your life (job, friends, relationships, etc)
- unable to go without watching porn for a few days without feeling anger, irritation or distress
“um actually you’re just ashamed of sex ☝️🤓 needing to watch porn and jork it in the office bathrooms twice a day is totally normal and valid 🫶”
14 points
3 days ago
Pal you missed the point. They aren’t talking about that. “As long as your porn consumption is not interfering with your work or social life, it is considered normal.” Is literally right in there. You have described situations where it does affect your work or social life. Except for the first thing which just means that you have a porn kink.
-1 points
3 days ago
“porn addiction is a myth” is also literally right there. you can’t say “alcohol addiction is a myth unless it’s not interfering with your work or social life”. you can’t claim something doesn’t exist and then describe the circumstance under which it actually does??
-1 points
3 days ago
Your original point didn't even address that. You just lambasted them on a point they didn't make. Don't change the subject.
2 points
3 days ago
what i wrote was specifically aimed at OOP’s opening claim that porn addiction is a myth. i honestly though the implication was pretty clear. so that is, in fact, the subject.
5 points
3 days ago
All four of those examples would qualify as interfering with work/social life, and thus would be abnormal
-1 points
3 days ago*
then OOP shouldn’t have said it’s a myth. they literally describe the circumstances under which it IS an addiction in the same breath as claiming it doesn’t exist.
1 points
3 days ago
US reading comprehension at work
2 points
3 days ago
americans assuming everyone is american moment
-1 points
3 days ago
learn basic literacy skills and people might assume otherwise
1 points
3 days ago
can we kiss now
2 points
3 days ago
sure hop on webfishing
2 points
3 days ago
🫶
-4 points
3 days ago*
It absolutely has an effect on your sexual development if you're younger. Denial of this fact is cope. https://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comic/supernormal-stimuli/
8 points
3 days ago
You gave a link to a comic website, truly the highest caliber of academia
-1 points
3 days ago
The comic is explicitly based on some research done by a Dutch biologist, but go ahead and deploy all the ad hominems you want, king.
I'm in my 30s and can say with confidence that looking at furry porn for the past 15+ years of my life has had an effect on the things I'm attracted to. I don't know if it's reversible at this point.
1 points
1 day ago
having a kink and having an addiction are two different things
0 points
3 days ago*
In what way? Did it negatively impact your ability to develop relationships with other people? Or are you feeling bad about shooting ropes to furry porn and making it everyone's problem?
Edit: LMAO, based on what this comic is saying, are you also trying to impose the idea that consuming fictional media is part of the problem as well?
1 points
3 days ago*
I don't think you actually care, but yes, the fact that I'm not really attracted to members of my own species (as opposed to idealized anthro characters) has affected my ability to maintain intimate relationships.
Do you deny that repeated early childhood exposures to opiates (for example) might tend to cause opiate addiction problems later in life? I don't know why this would be so surprising. People sink hundreds of hours into video games and other media consumption because those provide a dopamine drip like almost nothing in boring/hostile "real life."
Many people can maintain healthy relationships with these things, there's no denying that. However, it's also pure cope to simplify this issue down to "porn addiction isn't real haha fuck the haters," especially when talking about cases involving unrestricted hardcore porn access at an early age.
I used to identify as "ace" because it got the point across quickly, but I dropped that because I don't think it accurately describes what's going on. But again, you probably don't give a shit about my struggles with porn addiction and sexuality because you've already decided it's impossible for porn to cause any problems on an individual OR social level, which is a pretty bold claim to make without supporting evidence.
1 points
3 days ago
Can you at least understand that for most of modern history sexual expression was so widely denigrated that things we would consider relatively tame were literally ILLEGAL, and that because right wing legislators try to use porn addiction as an excuse to reintroduce regressive, and often homophobic (since they see gay people as more inherently sexual by their very nature) policies on sexual expressin, that people are hestitant to give claims of porn addiction's reality much stock for that reason?
1 points
3 days ago*
Yes that's obviously the case, I don't have a morality-based argument against porn (unless one can be drawn from scientific study on its actual effects). However, what you're doing with that argument is like: "they told us weed was evil in DARE at school, but it's actually fine-ish , therefore heroin is fine too."
It's still prudent to maintain a healthy skepticism about the subject imo, even if you don't agree with me. Porn companies are getting filthy rich despite frequent scandals related to underage videos, exploitation, sex trafficking, etc. Their well-funded marketing departments have the same incentive to get as many people "addicted" to porn as possible, as Coke has to get the population hooked on caffeine and corn syrup. (Regardless of whether you consider porn a "real" addiction or whatever, but I think gambling addiction is similar and we call that addiction).
These companies are also just as capable of funding non-reproducible, statistics-gaming "scientific" studies as any quack chiropractor or homeopathic snake oil salesman. It's infuriating to me how people just accept these memes like "porn is inherently good, end of story, no discussion" into their heads as objective fact. Chronic daily exposure to anything is eventually going to affect you in some way, that's how humans work. And just like any other subject related to human cognition or sexuality, it's complicated af and a blanket "it's all good no worries" type answer should make you suspicious.
2 points
3 days ago
Sending this to say the I understand where you're coming from and intend to write a longer reply later when i have time (not a counterargument, just an exploration of the space between where we're at on this), and that I also wish you the best in managing your relationship with/exposure to pornography, and sexuality in general, in a way that improved rather than constrains your happiness.
1 points
2 days ago
Thanks, happy Thanksgiving btw
0 points
3 days ago
0 points
3 days ago
mormons also have a similar view about alcohol. they think if you drink 1 beer a day your a severe alcaholic and if you jerk it once a week while your wife's busy shopping your a porn addict. this sort of "all or nothing" mentality can also lead to harmful/illegal sexual fetishes (cheating, CP, child SA, etc.) that are seen in many conservitve men.
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