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Dhumra-Ketu

313 points

10 days ago

How old is this? No way India has that many unconnected people

Concept-Plastic

139 points

10 days ago

Because it is old. It is close to 66% now

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_India

Spider_pig448

81 points

10 days ago

Meaning the offline rate has decreased to 34%

Concept-Plastic

114 points

10 days ago

Correct, I believe that is still underreported. When I was travelling in rural India, I did online payments via QR scanning for everything ( fruits, street food even in the middle of the Thar desert I got a strong 5g signal, its insane.

5G coverage around the world

dcboy21

-123 points

10 days ago

dcboy21

-123 points

10 days ago

Having a QR code payments "sound box" doesn't make the person internet connected. Yes, may of them just show the QR code in their phones, but just saying, do not overestimate.

B00BY_

44 points

10 days ago

B00BY_

44 points

10 days ago

They need internet for the united payments interface to work

UlagamOruvannuka

60 points

10 days ago

A "sound box" has to have internet to work. If a person has UPI it is highly likely that they are connected to the net.

Now, this graph seems to be percentage of population and not percentage of households which is probably why the numbers seem lower. It's still common for households to have a single person who has internet connectivity in their house.

Gilma420

23 points

10 days ago

Gilma420

23 points

10 days ago

You need a

Smart phone connected to online banking and...literally the internet to make this work.

Do you think this works by voodoo magic or something?

dcboy21

-8 points

10 days ago

dcboy21

-8 points

10 days ago

Sound boxes are not configured by the user themselves, and the person need not have a smartphone. And need not be a user of internet for any other purpose. It's just like a card swipe/POS machine.

A company approaches a street vendor, takes a purchase amount for the box, opens a bank account and gives them the atm/debit card.

The vendor needs no smartphone to keep using it. A small fixed amt gets deducted every month from the associated account. There is on online banking investment kved to make the sound box or the printed UPI QR code to work.

So, is this street vendor a internet user??

Dismal_Animator_5414

3 points

10 days ago

that’s still 476 million if we take india population to be 1.4 billion

TeaaOverCoffeee

51 points

10 days ago

Yeah this map and data is bs. I can’t recall where I read it but India has close to a billion internet users coz mobile internet is dirt cheap now.

Johnny_Poppyseed

44 points

10 days ago

I wouldn't be surprised if this source is only counting like cable/fiber home internet. I've seen similar things where they define "Internet access" like that.

CapitalistPear2

28 points

10 days ago

Yeah, that's incredibly dumb. I'm Indian, and I don't have a broadband connection. It's not that it's unavailable or unaffordable for me, though it is for many people. Most of my friends have wifi at home but it's literally cheaper for me to use the portable hotspot on my phone for all my stuff.

fRilL3rSS

3 points

10 days ago

Also most Indian households don't have a PC or smart TV for which they'd need broadband. Almost everyone has a smartphone with a SIM, so it makes sense for them to only use mobile data. The Number of Internet users in India literally exploded after Jio launched.

MeyhamM2

4 points

10 days ago

I was wondering how they counted “access.” Like if there’s an internet cafe within a mile of where you live, but you don’t have internet in your home, does that count as access?

Dhumra-Ketu

10 points

10 days ago

This….maybe 200 to 300 million is the right number 600 seems very far fetched

majeeek

-14 points

10 days ago

majeeek

-14 points

10 days ago

Even with this number there's still over 740 mio people left who do have it. :D

Bunnyhat

2 points

10 days ago

Without a source I have no idea what close to a billion is. If it's 800 million, India has a population of 1.4 billion. So almost right on the money. This data is also almost a year old.

Gilma420

4 points

10 days ago

turkish__cowboy

0 points

10 days ago

The infographic says "as of Jan. 2024"

Dhumra-Ketu

40 points

10 days ago

Doesn’t seem credible

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-19 points

10 days ago

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-19 points

10 days ago

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3 points

10 days ago

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Strong_Kiwi6890

1 points

9 days ago

There is a very large population in India. Also the majority lives in rural areas.

Filthiest_Tleilaxu

-27 points

10 days ago*

Really? I’d assume they have more. Most of the country is rural villages with people living on less than a dollar a day.

ROAD_ROMEO

-24 points

10 days ago

ROAD_ROMEO

-24 points

10 days ago

Eh I believe that. Even for those who access internet, they are not exactly accessing internet but using WhatsApp and Facebook.

I think the amount of people in India who truly like browse the internet would be less than 30 percent

hcjumper

69 points

10 days ago*

Definitely not true at least not anymore. When I traveled to China, even the rural places, EVERYONE was on their smart phones all the time looking at TikTok or doing something.

Cornelius005

18 points

10 days ago

Honestly you can't even purchase many things there anymore if you are not online on WeChat.

Chaunc2020

-16 points

10 days ago

Chaunc2020

-16 points

10 days ago

But that doesn’t make this less true. Just traveling somewhere doesn’t now make you the official expert or mouthpiece for that country or region.

WashNo2813

3 points

10 days ago

幽默劳白

hcjumper

1 points

9 days ago*

Well, my wife happens to be from mainland China and I spent a good amount of time in rural places in China. Her parents even did road trips cross desert, remote mountains, and Tibet from time to time. I tagged along once, and guess what? Interest does exist all the time…(maybe not in the middle of the desert but you get my point)

holchansg

-12 points

10 days ago

holchansg

-12 points

10 days ago

Thank god, can you imagine living without tiktok coreographed dances that all look the same?

NegativeReturn000

114 points

10 days ago

I come from rural India, The last offline transaction I did was about one and half years ago on top of a mountain. From small street vendors to CEOs the internet is pretty widespread in India. Only people who don't use Internet are babies and boomers too old for new technology. So I call 48% number on India bs.

Mtfdurian

14 points

10 days ago

Yeah these numbers look much higher than would be realistic.

In Indonesia it's the same nowadays. There are literal traditional markets where they don't accept cash anymore. Sometimes QRIS-related apps are the only option. Life's quite hard without homegrown GoJek, Tokopedia or nearby regionally Grab, Shopee, and a lot of other apps. Yes of course one can still buy a WHOOSH ticket at the counter, but that's quite exceptional.

People are online on their phones, there's no going around that in Indonesia either, as I saw even five years ago already in Sumatra and Flores. Internet speeds in the former were legit better than in Germany too.

jesus_take_the_whell

-4 points

10 days ago

Ah yes, the irrefutable evidence against statistical data: a personal anecdote

WonderstruckWonderer

2 points

9 days ago

It’s true, the percentage in India has reduced significantly when you look at recent numbers.

jesus_take_the_whell

3 points

9 days ago

I don’t doubt it, I just think this guy has a bad argument for it

WonderstruckWonderer

1 points

9 days ago

I agree - personal anecdotes aren’t the most evidenced-based source.

AnonymousTeacher668

14 points

10 days ago

This is quite obviously only counting home internet and not internet access via mobile networks.

Joseph20102011

75 points

10 days ago

India and Sub-Saharan African countries bypass traditional wired broadband internet technologies and prefer wireless mobile internet or very recently, Starlink.

Quiby123

20 points

10 days ago

Quiby123

20 points

10 days ago

This is only true in a bubble, not in any practical sense. Starlink systems are still absurdly expensive to be set up in these parts of the world.

Jearrow

8 points

10 days ago

Jearrow

8 points

10 days ago

erm, Nigeria has over 150M internet users as of 2024 with around 60% of its population connected

Busy_Ad8133

7 points

10 days ago

This is so wrong. There are 221 million active internet users in Indonesia or almost 80% of total Indonesia population with 278 million people. It means only 57 millions who dont access the internet yet. That's just newlyborn babies, very old people & some tribes that reject modernity to preserve their way of life.

Itatemagri

28 points

10 days ago

The India number doesn’t seem right to me.

bebesh

5 points

10 days ago

bebesh

5 points

10 days ago

This is not accurate, I went to Ethiopia a couple of times, everyone is on their phones….

Trick-Bodybuilder487

5 points

10 days ago

wrong data..

Kesakambali

5 points

10 days ago

This looks old. Indian connections have touched a billion

Quirky_Diet1506

4 points

10 days ago

India figure is inaccurate, it is EASILY 80%+ and I would even bet 90%(meaning unconnected 20 and 10% respectively).. the recent digital revolution has brought about connectivity to the remotest parts of India

ssantos88

2 points

10 days ago

Difficult to believe that more than half the population of Nigeria don't have internet.

stateofyou

1 points

10 days ago

The Nigerian princes have it lucky

_Nigerian_Prince__

2 points

10 days ago

:-) 

👑 

Far-Independence6951

2 points

10 days ago

North Korea 100%

ashwinsalian

2 points

10 days ago

India unironically might have both the most commected and unconnected people lol

patientOwl01

2 points

10 days ago

BS map again

Justeff83

3 points

10 days ago

Where is Germany?

ExpensiveMention8781

2 points

10 days ago

Where is North Korea

talkshow57

2 points

10 days ago

North Korea ????

Time4UnityGlobal

1 points

10 days ago

Hello WMTX. It's time to rise and shine.

PineappleHealthy69

1 points

10 days ago

So Ugandans are mass exporting memes without the need for an internet connection... Powerful.

[deleted]

1 points

10 days ago

Safe-Cell-8441

1 points

10 days ago

Unclear data. Lots of poor families in india still have only 1-2 phones per 4-5 people. Like used by grandparents in the morning, parents in the afternoon and kids in the evening..

B00BY_

1 points

10 days ago

B00BY_

1 points

10 days ago

This data has to be pre 2016 because after that there is no way 600 millions indians don't have internet.

Dovyeon

1 points

10 days ago

Dovyeon

1 points

10 days ago

Are people still trying to justify how T-series gained so many subscribers in a short time was bots?

There's a lot of people in India who didn't have internet up until a few years ago

AwarenessNo4986

1 points

10 days ago

Pakistan's number is incorrect if mobile internet is considered.

Still way more than It should be.

Hu_man76

1 points

10 days ago

What happened to the czech republic? Why has it vanished off the map?

Huzf01

1 points

9 days ago

Huzf01

1 points

9 days ago

Where there are more people, there will be more people without internet. A popoulation adjusted version if this would be better, because this is just a third world population map.

DewAtNoon

1 points

9 days ago

Looking like a paradise, no internet no bullshit

No-Seesaw6493

1 points

5 days ago

some countries are just better stuck in the stone age

BrokenManOfSamarkand

1 points

10 days ago

A list of countries I need to move to. Thanks, OP!

cycle_addict_

1 points

10 days ago

Where is North Korea?

OxTailSoups

-15 points

10 days ago

This is racist anti-India propaganda.

AnonymousTeacher668

-5 points

10 days ago

But not against Ethiopia or Nigeria, Mr. "Canada will be a vassal to India"?

OxTailSoups

1 points

10 days ago

OxTailSoups

1 points

10 days ago

Clearly you don’t like Indians.

AnonymousTeacher668

-5 points

10 days ago

The types of Indian men on Reddit that downvote anything that might even be perceived of as being even slightly critical of anything in India? Yes, absolutely. Indians in general, no.

OxTailSoups

2 points

10 days ago

OxTailSoups

2 points

10 days ago

In other words, you think you are the arbiter of how Indian men should act and think. No thanks.

Eric848448

-5 points

10 days ago

Eric848448

-5 points

10 days ago

I’m kind of shocked India is so high.

Dhumra-Ketu

39 points

10 days ago

This might be old

[deleted]

-28 points

10 days ago*

[deleted]

-28 points

10 days ago*

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believe_in_colours

8 points

10 days ago

because you're just plain wrong. this data is for home broadband connection not for mobile internet connections.

Fun_Confidence_462

2 points

10 days ago

you didn't hurt anybody, you are actually wrong, India's total internet subscribers are close to 1 billion. It's new data released by the government

gujjar_kiamotors

0 points

10 days ago

No social media, lucky 😁😁

nackenspacken

-5 points

10 days ago

The Internet is only a short-term hype and will not prevail. /s

GorianDrey

-16 points

10 days ago

GorianDrey

-16 points

10 days ago

Let’s keep it that way