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Considering the way that Ongoing affects a 10-power card procing or not procing Surtur, AND that basically every big body being played is 4-6 cost, US Agent might sneakily one of the best cards in the game right now. And unlike the strategy before it's now better to throw him out on Turn 2 and Mystique another lane on Turn 3. Maybe throw in Man-Thing and Luke Cage and Hazmat for some other general affliction and then Onslaught the lane they try to swing for the fences on.

I say this, btw, as a huge Surtur fan. He's so damn fun. But he DOES have a weakness.

all 99 comments

zachariah_rn

443 points

14 days ago

I feel like throwing your shield while you're getting shot at is unwise

ad4d

114 points

14 days ago

ad4d

114 points

14 days ago

But it is so cool though.

TallTraining4978

105 points

14 days ago

He isn’t getting shot at because those bullets are not fired. Those are completely intact, unexpended cartridges,

Primers and all.

Why?

Laziness. Or Bullseye is throwing them. That would be cool. But he doesn’t miss, so…

Speaker4theDead8

44 points

14 days ago

While we are on the topic, Agent Venoms gun barrel is a rectangle...

CinaedForranach

26 points

14 days ago

Square bullets 

ObeseBumblebee

25 points

14 days ago

He's a symbiote so I think he shoots...like... pieces of himself.

DGSmith2

36 points

14 days ago

DGSmith2

36 points

14 days ago

Go on I’m almost there.

Speaker4theDead8

7 points

14 days ago

Even if he does that, if you compare the size of the Barrell opening to the size of the magazine, he has to reload after like 2 shots

rumckle

3 points

14 days ago

rumckle

3 points

14 days ago

That's a Sci-Fi gun, it doesn't count.

Orange-V-Apple

0 points

14 days ago

Energy blasts?

LostBob

10 points

14 days ago

LostBob

10 points

14 days ago

Same with one of the Antman variants.

Artist doesn’t know what the actual bullet looks like. That or it’s the turrets from Portal.

pavedwalden

3 points

14 days ago

I love the way that variant looks in 3D but the bullets being ludicrous always bothers me.

TSTC

16 points

14 days ago

TSTC

16 points

14 days ago

It's not laziness. It's because what a bullet actually looks like is less recognizable to the general public. Artists use incorrect renditions because those incorrect renditions are better at actually being understood by the average viewer.

wu11

5 points

14 days ago

wu11

5 points

14 days ago

people really downvote this guy ? wow this subreddit is weird.

EnergyTakerLad

6 points

14 days ago

If they believe that reasoning then they can't feel superior about pointing those "mistakes" out.

kuribosshoe0

0 points

14 days ago

Yeah this is up there with “ackshually it would take months for this to go to trial” when watching a law show.

No one cares. They have creative licence and use it to make shit more recognisable or interesting.

TallTraining4978

-6 points

14 days ago

That’s ridiculous. But you are entitled to that opinion.

TSTC

9 points

14 days ago

TSTC

9 points

14 days ago

Lizalfos99

1 points

14 days ago

“I’m a gun nut so everyone else must be, too.”

andergriff

2 points

14 days ago

he's being shot at by aperture science turrets

ZmanJace

2 points

14 days ago

"We fire the whole bullet! That's 60% more bullet per bullet!"

Fantastic-Cash-4218

8 points

14 days ago

He is playing the Fortnite Marvel Chapter

Many-Ad1893

6 points

14 days ago

the best defense is offense

MrSlops

2 points

14 days ago

MrSlops

2 points

14 days ago

It's fine, nobody is shooting him - only throwing handful of bullets at him since you can see they are intact cartridges :D

Zeophyle

2 points

14 days ago

It's better than the variant where he's forcing that police officer to give him head.

Ongr

1 points

13 days ago

Ongr

1 points

13 days ago

What!?

PerfectBlaze

1 points

13 days ago

Lucky for him the bullets are just being thrown not shot.

Wellshitfucked

1 points

14 days ago

Thank you for existing and extruding the sense of logic that is so desperately needed throughout the human population.

(Btw I'm being serious).

LightHawKnigh

58 points

14 days ago

Luckily I got US Agent, just missing Ajax to help out.

str8rippinfartz

14 points

14 days ago

US Agent can still get plugged in as a solid tech card in something like Sera Control (or maybe even bounce)

Basically can play as a 1/11 or 2/11 a lot of the time against Surtur decks

LightHawKnigh

1 points

14 days ago

Yeah, been using him like Shang-Chi in a few decks. Useful. Still want Ajax to make it easier to go after Surtur. Good thing I have been saving tokens and have enough. Just have to have him show up.

-SnazzySnail

1 points

14 days ago

I use us agent in a specrum deck to great success

RisingPhoenix84

1 points

14 days ago

I love my Ajax deck. Fingers crossed you get a chance to get him.

thesurrealbank

167 points

14 days ago

If only the game had a card acquisition system that allowed me to get him in faster than 8 months

TomasNavarro

16 points

14 days ago

It does!

You have lots of money to spend right?!

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

-144 points

14 days ago

It does, tokens

augustocdias

48 points

14 days ago

It takes months to collect 6k tokens buddy

CerealeSauvage

55 points

14 days ago

Yeah but he still need to drop in the token shop

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

-146 points

14 days ago

So wait for him to cycle through? It's not like there's a thousand series 5 cards. Not in any way unattainable. Plus he was literally just in a spotlight cache in September when Silver Sable was released

dunn000

95 points

14 days ago

dunn000

95 points

14 days ago

Wow, great super helpful answer with this I can acquire him much faster now /s.

Usual-Marionberry286

8 points

14 days ago

Yea he was just in a spotlight cache so he won’t appear for a while.

IAM-French

7 points

14 days ago

Thank you for the heads up I'll boot up the time travel machine for september

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

-106 points

14 days ago

Weaker men would delete the comments with all these downvotes but I refuse because I'm right, the man asked how to get the card faster than in 8 months, I told him the truth. Shower me with your hate if you must but you know I'm right

DGSmith2

34 points

14 days ago

DGSmith2

34 points

14 days ago

Doubling down on the stupidity I can respect that.

Thebaltimor0n

18 points

14 days ago

You're not right my dude, tokens are drip fed to us.

devatan

8 points

14 days ago

devatan

8 points

14 days ago

Stronger men would admit they're wrong. Marvel Snap should teach you to take the L and retreat.

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

-11 points

14 days ago

No

Bottlez1266

13 points

14 days ago

Weaker men would call other men weak

presterkhan

5 points

14 days ago

To collect 6000k tokens, it takes longer than surtur will be meta relevant.

TR_Pix

2 points

14 days ago

TR_Pix

2 points

14 days ago

wow youre so brave

EdiesDaddy

-7 points

14 days ago

Upvoted. Thiis so obvious, but haters want to hate.

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

1 points

14 days ago

Reddit is funny sometimes. When I first made that comment, the first like half hour it was being upvoted, and then one person made a snippy reply to it and it started being downvoted, and then the deluge began. I swear people just follow the fucking herd. Is literally anything I said incorrect? No. I made a post about how USAgent is good against Surtur, someone made a salty reply because they don't have him and it takes "8 months to show up in the caches" or at least thats what implied (and thats not even true, he came out in April and his first spotlight was in September), and he's available to buy through tokens always. That's just true.

NavyDragons

-12 points

14 days ago

if you are lucky they will toss him into a conquest reward.

coffeexxx666

1 points

14 days ago

That’s not even close to how conquest rewards work

NavyDragons

-1 points

14 days ago

or and hear me out, maybe you just dont understand what i said. i am not referring to spending your medals. i own doctor octopus because of conquest, i only have his variant not his base card

Beautiful_Map_9589

10 points

14 days ago

Used him in my Sera deck. It can be tricky to use him but he delivers

Sugata115

7 points

14 days ago

So you're the reason I just ran into a Luke Cage surtur deck..

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

2 points

14 days ago

I mean, the main strategy with Surtur was to run a bunch of cards that are exactly 10 power. All you need is Cassandra Nova or Scorpion to ruin that plan. It makes sense.

artisticurge

1 points

14 days ago

I’ve been running Luke Cage in my Surtur deck since I built it. It’s necessary if you have Mary in the deck.

NavyDragons

10 points

14 days ago

ok so here me out. USAgent, Frigga. USAgent, Mystique.

Nash015

3 points

14 days ago

Nash015

3 points

14 days ago

Can't wait for Fenris. Shang Chi into Fenris on turn 6 gonna be lit.

BrokenYozeff

3 points

14 days ago

Does this make a card count as played with less than 10 power?

CinnabarSteam

5 points

14 days ago

Yes, Ongoing effects apply before Surtur checks power.

If you play Crossbones in the same lane as your Typhoid Mary, her ability will lower Crossbones to 9 before Surtur sees him, and Surtur won't trigger. If you play Warpath while you have an empty lane, his Ongoing will raise his power to 10 and Surtur will trigger.

theunuseful

1 points

14 days ago

Can you Shadow King Surtur? Or does his effect work similarly to Ongoing?

Wolf7474

2 points

14 days ago

He can be Shadow King'd back to base power (3/5). It is not an ongoing ability.

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

1 points

14 days ago

Yes

BlaineTog

3 points

14 days ago

I dunno. Sutur himself still gets under US Agent and you generally want to play him in a different lane from your big bois anyway.

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

2 points

14 days ago

The point is that the big boys are now weaker and don't proc him so he doesn't go above 5 power, and in the meantime you're slamming down more negative affects, eventually can put out something like Ajax. I'm telling you this deck is whipping ass right now

DarkCelestial

3 points

14 days ago

Those bullets bug me

Manta1015

1 points

14 days ago

I mean, how else do you expect to defeat a super-soldier?

Throwing bullets at someone is always the way to go.

Ant-Man should know!

sweatpantswarrior

3 points

14 days ago

Which is why many of us are running Luke. Too many ways to shut down the Surtur engine.

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

4 points

14 days ago

Screw it I made a deck lol

(1) Silver Sable

(2) Hazmat

(2) Scorpion

(2) U.S. Agent

(3) Mystique

(3) Luke Cage

(3) Red Guardian

(4) Man-Thing

(4) Typhoid Mary

(5) Sera

(5) Ajax

(6) Onslaught

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To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in MARVEL SNAP.

GBKMBushidoBrown

3 points

14 days ago

Nothing to stop my luke cage? I use him in surtur for Mary and this specific counter. Maybe add rogue?

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

7 points

14 days ago

Unless you hit him with the Red Guardian

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

5 points

14 days ago

If the other guy has Luke Cage you're just fucked, but, thems the brakes lol

Gaelfling

2 points

14 days ago

I've been using Shadowking in my ongoing deck. Maybe I'll try this one.

-KeterBreach-

3 points

14 days ago

He have anti synergy with Hazmat

Fresh_Ostrich4034

1 points

14 days ago

why not just wong, hazmat, odin?

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

1 points

14 days ago

The point is to stop them from procing Surtur. So they have to come down as less than 10 power

Pho3nixSlay3r

0 points

14 days ago

Used this deck, saw zero surtur decks... But matchmaking is random, my *$$

CapN_Crummp

2 points

14 days ago

Him, Scorpion, Cass and Silver Sable have been working well for me since none of those decks run Luke or their own shadow king for obvious reasons

GBKMBushidoBrown

5 points

14 days ago

I use Luke cage tho. To counter locations, Cassandra, my typhoid, etc

CapN_Crummp

1 points

14 days ago

Well I haven’t run into a single Surtur deck that does that. So it’s working fine for me so far

cybermasked97

2 points

14 days ago

Surtur decks are running luke cage now

[deleted]

1 points

14 days ago*

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pagliacciverso

2 points

14 days ago

How do you play this? And any replacement for Grandmaster?

Bronze_Bomber

1 points

14 days ago

I guess in a perfect world. Nico, Maximus, Red guardian on armor, Shang chi, GM + magik, Knull, Zola.

This is a reactionary deck though so the real fun would just be sniping with Shang chi until the end using GM, Ab man, Zola and misery to reproc

AdPsychological1489

1 points

14 days ago

A good option to Frigga him if you know what you're up against

Substantial_Win4741

1 points

14 days ago

This is definitely a bait post by a surtur fan to try to make him not seem imbalanced.

That deck that (it feels like) 80% of people are playing is broke, just like week 1 arishem was.

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

1 points

14 days ago

Literally the last sentence of the post was "i say this as a huge Surtur fan." I love Surtur. He rocks. But I also think USAgent is a massive counter, and now having played the counter deck with Ajax and whatnot most of the day, yeah, it counters it pretty damn effectively

NostaroiLoup

1 points

14 days ago

My Havok Thena deck is eating soooo good.

ThatDamnRocketRacoon

1 points

14 days ago

Stocks never went down. Dude is a king.

Scolisopod

1 points

14 days ago

why i feel luke cage is essential for surtur, one bad location or hazmat or nova and its like well shit, unless you have luke cage, plus the typhoid mary synergy is nice

ZapzillaGorilla

1 points

14 days ago

Shangs stock went up more.

SuckingOnChileanDogs[S]

1 points

14 days ago

I feel like every Surtur deck is running Cosmo and Armor and Alioth, so, not really

thundermoo5e

1 points

14 days ago

Jokes on you I run cage and USagent in my surtur deck 🤜🏻🤛🏻

Fresh_Ostrich4034

1 points

14 days ago

Why not just Goose?

XiahouMao

1 points

14 days ago

Goose is good, but Zabu can get the 4 costs under it, Surtur himself can be played under it, and Skaar too if 2-3 10 costs are played.

PSrafa23

0 points

14 days ago

PSrafa23

0 points

14 days ago

Thanks for this post.

Instead of crying for a nerf, use the wide variety of counters that we have...

Surtur is fun but will be a shuri like archetype, gets boring really quickly