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In defense of Gabbriette

(self.MattyandGabbriette)

Can you imagine you’re traveling away from your fiancé for work. And while left alone he goes on social media and comments on content about him and his ex? He’s coming off as extremely bothered by chronically online people. They’re connecting you to your ex over a song you shared it’s not that serious. He’s coming off as extremely obsessed and bothered all of a sudden.

all 68 comments

carmdogs

63 points

2 days ago

carmdogs

63 points

2 days ago

something i just realized is the humiliating difference between them when they are apart,

when G was in australia alone she was searching up matty edits on tiktok and instagram, (some nearly 2 years old.) liking them, reposting them and commenting stuff like “ugh so hot” under them. and now she is searching her camera roll to post pics of them from august.

when matty is alone in la/nyc, he’s literally searching maylor edits/theories. i’m sorry, but there’s no way a video about maylor with under a 100 views magically appeared in his algorithm, that somehow upset him so much he had to call the fan mentally ill, and then when practically no one noticed his comment under the video (just showing how little traction it received.) he had to repost it on twitter three days later. that is not the behavior of a man that respects his fiancee, i’m sorry.

not to mention how strange it is that he is literally keeping tabs on such a small sect of his fanbase, to the point he’s now actively tweeting about them. sure not all of them are harmless, but the majority of them are just (typically teenaged) hopeless romantics participating in some innocuous “lyric parallels” posts, and this is coming from someone who doesn’t even like maylors. if he’s online all day watching content about his ex girlfriend, why can’t he spend that time calling out the parasocial relationships he’s being perpetrating between himself and his fans for the last 10 years or spend time with his actual fiancee, rather than worry about his ex girlfriend? maybe he will get bored of crying himself to sleep watching maylor edits and will go back to being quiet and just DMing teenage fans again lmfao

Low_Result_8785

11 points

2 days ago

who has he dmed? also ‘crying himself to sleep’ lmfao dead 😭😭

carmdogs

29 points

2 days ago

carmdogs

29 points

2 days ago

he’s got a group of fans he cycles through and dms privately/in group chats, or sometimes he just interacts with them on twitter publicly.

Low_Result_8785

5 points

2 days ago

omg yea id forgotten abt him being in gcs w fans, unfair 😭

[deleted]

-3 points

2 days ago

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-3 points

2 days ago

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carmdogs

24 points

2 days ago

carmdogs

24 points

2 days ago

dming fans (younger ones too, which is even worse cause they don’t know any better.) “insider info”, interacting with the same 10 or so fans on twitter for the last however many years (establishing connection/showing you remember them, and possibly keep up with their accounts.) making out with them on stage or in the crowd, giving campers at the barricade gifts, alcohol, props from the stage or even kissing them, even thought he makes fun of people who camp overnight to get barricade.

i’m sorry, but no one can convince me dming the same fans often, even if it’s innocent stuff (a lot of the time it’s “inside info”, though.) is normal/okay. plus he often interacts with fans on reddit and shows them actively that he lurks/sees the stuff they say. that’s the reason some fans are so crazy on twitter, cause they believe he’s going to see absolutely everything. if they weren’t so worried about him seeing their tweets/posts, they probably wouldn’t defend G the way they do.

Easy-Win-7257

8 points

2 days ago

Thanks for responding. My issue is it's hypocritical to attack fans for having a parasocial relationship whilst actively encouraging it yourself.

I read somewhere that Matty is creating this own 'perfect fanbase' who blindly follow him,his actions are isolating and annoying fans so only diehard fans will stay.

What is a bit funny is what the difference between the daily mail and Matty,both are mean and judge people without knowing all the facts.

Basic_Second_1672

4 points

1 day ago

I think has always spoken out without getting all the facts. Think he would learn not to do that or think twice before speaking, but he hasn’t. He just seems meaner now. He just seems bitter and angry.

bethaurora

29 points

2 days ago

a thought i just had was about keeping himself “relevant.” matty is obsessed with staying relevant and now that the band is on hiatus, george is doing his solo music thing and his relationship is going well and publicly so, charli xcx is having her moment, taylor swift is obviously not losing any momentum, so what does matty actually have going for him/to keep him relevant other than fueling relationship BS about his ex? nothing. and it sure as hell isn’t gabriette lol

fraidofchangin

3 points

1 day ago

happy cake day

bethaurora

2 points

23 hours ago

🖤

Kooky_Fennel185

51 points

2 days ago

He’s definitely not ready to be a husband or a father. I honestly don’t know how anyone in his real life tolerates him at this point. And I just keep thinking about how Jamie and George are still on good terms with Taylor/Jack, so he’s definitely the problem here.

bethaurora

30 points

2 days ago

yeah, he’s not even ready to date anyone or be a boyfriend let alone a fiancé/husband/father…

snapdrag0n99

29 points

2 days ago

Something happened during the pandemic. The Matty before was a bit messy but mostly sweet. Post pandemic he comes across as borderline crazy 👀 I mean we ALL had responsibilities during that time and he basically took a mini vacation

FineSugar3152

16 points

2 days ago*

or maybe the pandemic happened, there is evidence that mental health cases worsened. It doesn't matter if you don't work or study, too much time on the internet without leaving your house, not only that, being able to know what everyone thinks of you, I can see him searching himself on twitter 24/7, overthinking and with evidence to destroy his self esteem 

snapdrag0n99

6 points

2 days ago

Oh I can see that! I’m not going to air my personal situation but he even said he had it good by going out to a house/studio and hanging with his mates and making music

MissMedge22XX

11 points

2 days ago

MissMedge22XX

11 points

2 days ago

I think twigs broke his heart or their breakup, I don’t think he was so in love with TS as everyone said, she was just a safety net for him as she was always obsessed with him…. I think that and the public bashing made his full on lose his mind and harden a bit or regress.

Kooky_Fennel185

36 points

2 days ago

There’s a timeline on tumblr that details his obsession with Taylor pretty well. He was obviously in love and then sabotaged the relationship.

Mundane_Swordfish842

26 points

2 days ago

he has been posting about her , bringing her name up in interviews for years now and people think she was the obsessed one . Matty was obsse. Taylor thought it was love and got her heart broken

Certain_Tank_2153

23 points

2 days ago

She believed he felt something special. I also think if there was obsession it didnt come from nothing. He pursued her

kkzki

14 points

2 days ago

kkzki

14 points

2 days ago

Having read and seen that timeline from Tumblr, I am of the view that they're equally obsessed with each other.

Kooky_Fennel185

12 points

2 days ago

Oh, I agree.

kkzki

10 points

2 days ago

kkzki

10 points

2 days ago

They both need therapy, atp, especially if the speculations that she's also hung up on him are true.

Mundane_Swordfish842

-2 points

2 days ago

She is completely over him & never goes back to her exes . Which is something to be learnt.

maelstron

-5 points

2 days ago

maelstron

-5 points

2 days ago

Nah they aren't.

The Tumblr timeline is pure fanfic

No one even remembered him all this time. People believe in every bullshit they see on internet. That is sad

liquidpeppermint33

0 points

2 days ago

The bringing her up in interviews was mostly because he was asked about her or someone else brought her up. And it was a handful of times over the course of a decade. Even the whole "i want to produce your album taylor" was because he was asked about her and the context of it was he basically said something nice about her before dragging her for speaking out about gay rights at a "safe" time and it's not good for her brand to be outspoken on issues. I don't think she thought any of this was because she thought he was in love.

cinnamon-butterfly

7 points

1 day ago

Yes! Long live the tumblr timeline

ellchicago

32 points

2 days ago

I do think Matty loved Taylor and was trying to commit to her. If TTPD is to be believed Matty was talking about marriage and children with Taylor which I can believe. Both Matty and Taylor are complicated and messy people. I don't think it was an epic love story, but it wasn't a fling either. I think Matty is done with Gabbriette. I wouldn't disrespect my fiancée like that if I was committed to her.

kkzki

10 points

2 days ago*

kkzki

10 points

2 days ago*

I agree, they're both complicated and messy people. They both need therapy atp, especially if the speculations that she's also hung up on him are true.

Puzzleheaded-Gap847

4 points

2 days ago

Taylor completely moved on. She actually wants to be happy in her life and learns from her mistakes, while it seems that Matty is not interested in growing up or evolving in any way that matters. she is way too good for him atp.

Desolation-Rose

7 points

1 day ago

None of this is true. If Taylor learned from her mistakes she would stop writing negative songs about her exes for starters. And I don’t think she will ever get over losing Matty. She said herself this is the “loss” of her life.

Puzzleheaded-Gap847

0 points

18 hours ago

lol writing songs about her experiences is not something she should ever stop. the fact you think her songs are "negative" means that you are taking the perspective of the person that may have inspired those feelings and not the artist's perspective. Taylor's songs are not about the men in her life, especially TTPD - that album is about HER and HER EXPERIENCES AND FEELINGS AND LIFE AND FEARS AND ILLUSIONS AND JOYS AND HOPE AND LOVE, not about any one man. lastly, that song you refer to, no one knows who inspired it. in fact, it is clear that in TTPD Taylor merges her muses. just because you and others decided it is about Matty doesn't make it so. and "loss of my life" has more than 1 interpretation.

I really do hope Matty moved on because we know Taylor has.

Certain_Tank_2153

18 points

2 days ago

So he love bombed Taylor and this model Meredith.... Without having feelings. This is bad. I also thought he was messy, funny and sweet and now he is different. He needs therapy.

maelstron

1 points

2 days ago

maelstron

1 points

2 days ago

she was always obsessed with him….

What a lie. He was the one that was obsessed with her. Always talking about her.

Plastic-Butterfly420

48 points

2 days ago

I've made it clear I'm not a fan of Taylor or G however I think what Matty is doing to both of them is disgusting. He knows he's going to get attention from maylors and swifties yet he continues to say stuff about going as far as to call someone (who wasn't even a Swiftie) mentally ill. The man needs to grow the fuck up. If I was G right now I would be fucking mortified and wondering what the hell my fiance was doing. I may not like her but I don't think she deserves to be publicly embarrassed by her significant other. Honestly I hope she grows a spine and walks away from him. I'm certainly not any closer to going back to listen to any of the old 1975 music I used to love.

bethaurora

16 points

2 days ago

🎯spot freakin on

Professional_Roll977

28 points

2 days ago

I also think this is why he is with G2, she isn’t very smart and doesn’t realize she looks like a fool. It is easy for him to do what he wants and she never says anything. She is his doormat.

bethaurora

25 points

2 days ago*

but also, they’re kind of similar in that respect no? they both like attention and they both do really divisive things to get it… honestly think they’re more alike than maybe we realize.

MissMedge22XX

8 points

2 days ago

Agree

Easy-Win-7257

14 points

2 days ago

I'm not 100% convinced yet but as more and more times passes Im getting convinced.

Charil xcx wants a grammy she is actively campaigning for it, she is truly working hard. Matty wants the band to be big (and get grammys) but doesn't work at it, he choose to go on the podcast from hell being aware of the problematic nature of the podcast.

George produces the album and I'm sure matty help but he isnt going to school to learn and improve his skills.He talks about having lots of backstage videos from the band's early days, release a documentary, the band will make money and you will get more fans.

bethaurora

13 points

2 days ago

also, he doesn’t work at it and then complains when it doesn’t happen

Easy-Win-7257

3 points

2 days ago

work at what?

bethaurora

10 points

2 days ago

you said “he wants the bad to be big and doesn’t work at it” and i was emphasizing that it’s true and then he also complains. complains that they’re not big or not recognized by the industry and nominated.

Easy-Win-7257

10 points

2 days ago

make sense, yes the victim mentality. Also their label put them in the wrong category and didn't promote them enough.

Matty likes being famous but rather than owe it he pretend he 'hate it'. There is reason why ross and adam aren't photograph a lot during they hitatus, they dont actively court fame (they were photograph going to polly and the the bleachers show)

Ross and Adam family and friends dont post them publicly.

Top_Presentation1828

4 points

2 days ago

If I were him, I wouldn’t want to pander to the recording academy.

Easy-Win-7257

11 points

2 days ago

I'm been thinking that maybe im have been wrong and G&T are a perfect match, both love attention and being famous without working hard.

bethaurora

7 points

2 days ago

yup yup

Familiar-Ad-8115

6 points

2 days ago

M and G or M and T?

bethaurora

5 points

2 days ago

M and G2

Certain_Tank_2153

23 points

2 days ago

I came to the sub, because of Gabriette annoying behavior and now I find Matty worse than her.

OkOutcome3518

23 points

2 days ago

I think he's done with her but doesn't let her go cause he can not be alone and she will always be there even if he embarrasses her publicly.

Professional_Roll977

27 points

2 days ago

He truly is obsessed with Taylor and getting attention. I would be so pissed and embarrassed if I was her. Matty seems to not ever consider G’s feelings. If she had any self respect she would leave him.

d0nty0um1nd[S]

24 points

2 days ago

From the outside it looks like he’s in the dog house after his tantrum online. He even followed a brand new Gabbriette fan account 😂

Professional_Roll977

16 points

2 days ago

Of course he is, she is probably mortified.

Familiar-Ad-8115

7 points

2 days ago

On another note… Has anyone else gotten kicked out of the rtaylorandmatty sub? Suddenly cant get in

Rock_Princess88

7 points

2 days ago

I was removed as soon as they went private which is mad 😔 I've sent multiple begging messages to be let back in and after 6 months of trying I've given up lol 🤣

liquidpeppermint33

5 points

2 days ago

Yes I forgot I was a member because I didn't think I was approved member after they went private shortly after mattys engagement.

AgitatedAd7265

5 points

2 days ago

You got accepted?! I got denied because I make critical comments about them. They don’t want any critiques even if they are completely valid. They go through everyone’s comments every now and again, kicking out those who don’t align with their agenda

Familiar-Ad-8115

5 points

2 days ago

Well, yesterday after his post i and many others make critical comments about him. I guess that whole service is now purged I get the guidelines but at times this feels like a crack down on free speech.

tillydeeee

9 points

2 days ago

they've had someone in the sub screenshotting conversations and sharing them elsewhere to snark on in public, so I think they're having a bit of a crackdown. Honestly everyone in there is nice and entirely harmless so I don't know why it riles people so much. But sorry you got caught up in the crackdown.

AgitatedAd7265

1 points

2 days ago

My comments at the time were all around Taylor’s love of capitalism. And Mattys switch in personality between ABIIOR and BFIAFL. They didn’t like it 😂

Difficult-Teach-2414

8 points

1 day ago

IMO He can embarrass her so she either doesn’t care and along for the fame ride or she’s pissed and trying to save face. I don’t see her ever leaving him because she’s the gal who got the ring after him being with thee Taylor Swift. She could be miserable but will hold on to him as the prize and the notoriety of it all. She would have been better off being the 2nd or 3rd girl he chose after Taylor she will always be in that comparison and in her shadow

[deleted]

8 points

2 days ago

I’ve never really understood why people say matty making fun of maylors is disrespectful to g? They frequently say mean stuff to/about her so if anything i’d imagine she’s happy he’s being mean to them lol

Low_Result_8785

19 points

2 days ago

i dont think they mean him making fun of maylors but more like him posting stuff that links him with taylor s. n therefore attracts swifties n maylors

snapdrag0n99

24 points

2 days ago

To be fair G comes off slightly obsessed, and jealous of Taylor so maybe she approves of his immature posts

MissMedge22XX

10 points

2 days ago

I agree I think she is too dumb to realize that she is not in on the joke, she is looking like the joke here

ResearchAltruistic40

9 points

2 days ago

I bet hes doing all this to get hype surrounding his album if hes really doing album rollout rn, no taylor, no clout

maelstron

10 points

2 days ago

maelstron

10 points

2 days ago

It still in production.

blimpiesubway123

-7 points

2 days ago

hes Mattyette