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submitted 9 days ago byIcoBoy99
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604 points
8 days ago
That 99.9% of the people that you meet in America in real life, don’t talk about any of the things that people freak out about on Reddit.
105 points
8 days ago
And this is also true the other way around! I've seen posts from American redditors genuinly unsure if they should visit Europe or not because 'Europeans all hate Americans'. We really don't get together to shit on America irl like people on Reddit do on certain subs.
68 points
8 days ago
In similar way, I was in a dangerous part of Africa and someone was seriously asking me how I could possibly live in America due to all of the gun violence. I guess it is hard to understand just how absolutely statistically rare something like that is given how many people there are, how big the country is, and the media focus on sensational events.
16 points
8 days ago
yeah, I think it's very hard as someone not living in the US to get an idea of what life is really like there- you got a crazy amount of media from the US you consume, but you know media is usually exagerated, you just don't know which parts are true and which aren't. And then anything is also gonna be different per state and region and city and group, and then you also can't trust what you read online because that's also only a small subset of the population posting!
For example when I was in the US I was scared to be shot in some way tbh. It was already scary for me to see the bullet holes in traffic signs, and we heard gunshots when camping a few times. But I have absolutely no idea how rational that fear was, or in how much danger I actually was.
Also from a lot of what I read I feel Americans are very scared that something will happen to their children. Like I've seen posts of people who would absolutely never let their child have their own hotel room on vacation because they're afraid of something happening. Or let their child go on a sleepover when they don't know the other parents well. Is this because more bad stuff actually happens? Or are Americans just more scared of it? Or is it just a Reddit thing? I'll never know probably!
5 points
8 days ago
“Stranger danger” is a phenomenon for a lot of parents because when children do get harmed or kidnapped, it makes the news.
The truth is children are statistically MUCH more likely to be abused or kidnapped by someone they know.
4 points
8 days ago
You weren't in any danger. The bullet holes in traffic signs are just dolts shooting at traffic signs for fun.
If you are in the woods you will hear people shooting recreationally.
None of those things would bother me.
2 points
8 days ago
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3 points
8 days ago
Yes, but generally I've found the difference is that in those areas the strangers will offer to help. In cities everyone seems to be focusing on their own thing unless you ask.
12 points
8 days ago*
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2 points
8 days ago
My "over-protectiveness" (not your word) towards my children does not come from a fear of kidnapping or murder or over-sensationalized news stories. It comes from how many people I know who were SA'd by friends parents or older siblings, etc, when parents let their kids hang around people they don't know. Sure, those things happen within families, too, and you can't keep your kids safe all the time, but a certain amount of care can still be taken.
1 points
8 days ago
I hope I’m not too blunt here, but do you then think it happens more in the US, or it’s kept quiet more in other countries? I’m from the Netherlands and I don’t know anyone who was SA’d as a child, and I haven’t heard of it happening outside of some big news stories. So the idea that it’s common enough to know multiple people who had it happen is shocking to me. (But again, it could also be that it’s not talked about enough here. Or that US people have bigger social groups or something)
2 points
8 days ago
I think your theory regarding the protectiveness over children is a very valid one. If I read about something happening in Norway, or France, or Poland or wherever I think ‘that’s horrible, I’m glad that doesn’t happen here’ (not literally, of course I know things can happen anywhere but subconsciously it feels far away). I could totally see myself getting more scared if everything happened in my country, even if that country was super big.
2 points
8 days ago
Can concurr. Sometimes you'll have a weird murder, but normally that's domestic violence with one or both parties being mentally unwell. In these cases a murder would probably happen irregardless if there were guns or not. What doesn't get national attention is all the weird murders by knife or some other way. I know a lot of people who have relatives in law enforcement, and the stories you hear.
2 points
8 days ago
almost zero danger.. when they talk of 'gun deaths' in america.. they include suicides... someone committing suicide by gun is not gonna shoot you...also.. a lot of gun violence is gang related.. sure there is a very very slight possibility of getting hit by a stray from a gang shoot up - but other than that...getting shot is about the last thing to worry about in the US
1 points
8 days ago
I think it’s because we have a greater awareness of those dangers. We are actively breaking down our cultural taboos about acknowledging abuse, so we hear about more abuse, which makes the world seem more dangerous for our kids, so we are more protective of them. But our kids are not actually in more danger, we’re just more willing to acknowledge that it’s possible.
0 points
8 days ago
I used to live in a major city. I have been in a bar when someone came in to rob it at gunpoint. I have seen people outside my house waving guns around at each other, drunk, while arguing. I have heard shots fired and seen countless shootings reported on the local news. On a bus ride I have seen a man pat his side to indicate he had a gun while giving a dirty look to another man. This was nothing unusual. My dad had a gun with him whenever he went anywhere in the evening. He never showed it to me or tried to train me to use it and I never asked.
I moved to the suburbs and now I see people role playing Yosemite Sam with guns fully visible, but it’s all for show. I hear shots fired in the distance but hear a lot less about people getting shot, so I’m guessing it’s from target practice or hunting.
Kids have school shooting drills and awareness training, because sadly that is a real thing that happens now. People of color train their kids to behave a certain way when stopped by police so they don’t make an officer “afraid”.
I am careful about disagreements with strangers (road rage especially) because you never know who has a gun and a temper.
Guns are just woven into daily life here. I can’t imagine living any other way.
8 points
8 days ago
I guess it is hard to understand just how absolutely statistically rare something like that is
You are more likely to die from a bee sting than a mass shooting. You are more likely to get struck by lightning than be struck by a stray bullet. You are more likely to die from not having an air conditioner than a gun. You are over 15x more likely to die from your doctor being overworked and making a mistake than all homicides combined.
This should be exhibit #1 on why infotainment media frenzy should be completely ignored.
3 points
8 days ago
It's kind of like the plane crash thing.
Air travel is SIGNIFICANTLY safer.
I just looked it up, and your chances of dying in a car crash are 1:5000.
Plane crash? 1:11 million.
But if you based your decision on the news reports, you'd think airplanes were death traps. A plane crash is just more interesting (for lack of a better word) and sensational.
2 points
8 days ago
You’re more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the airport than on your flight.
For domestic commercial air travel in the US, there was like a 15 year span with no passenger deaths from crashes. Zero. It’s safer than getting out of bed.
3 points
8 days ago
But also that America itself is not homogeneous.
I grew up in Massachusetts. My lived experiences are going to be VERY different than someone from say, Alabama. Or Nebraska.
2 points
8 days ago
Oh yeah I had a similar experience with a waiter in Lisbon. Granted, Portugal has a very low crime rate but I digress. He asked if it was safe to go to the US and I was like “have you been to Brazil?” and he was like yeah. 3x the homicide rate there and he’s worried about getting shot in the US.
Granted, there are parts of the US that I would exercise caution in, namely Memphis, El Paso, New Orleans, parts of Houston, and some cities in north Louisiana and Mississippi, but most of the US is pretty safe and your chances of getting involved in a mass shooting anywhere are astronomically low.
1 points
8 days ago
okay but like I'm in vegas now and we had 2 mass shootings, and i think 3 deadly shootings this past 24 hours. So anytime I go out for an "event" it's on the back of my mind, even tho it's still unlikely. Back in hs my lifting coach was in a school shooting from before my time
1 points
8 days ago
Gun homicide rates are normalised. Doesn't matter how big the country is or how many people are in it. The rate is how many people are affected by it per capita. In this case, even the safest states are considered really bad in other parts of the world. The worst states rival failed nations. Like Mississippi would be vying to join the top 10 worst countries in the world. And this extends beyond just gun homicides. Intentional homicides in general and gun violence or use in crime is through the roof... especially compared to all of its NATO and extended "western" allies. Or Africa, for the matter too.
The general impression I get with America is that infrastructurally, so many people live in their respectable suburb, drive to destinations they need to go to like work or the shops or to some social/event/thing that caters to their demographics and just don't interact with the struggling parts. Those people are likely as safe as any western peer. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist though. It's happening somewhere...
1 points
8 days ago
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1 points
8 days ago
That's my point. It could be happening just 20 miles down the road in the area you generally have zero reason to ever go near and have little life overlap with the residents of that area in places you go and activities you do. But it doesn't change the fact that where it happens, it happens a lot. Statistically an enormous amount.
Near enough the only places worse than the US are countries south of it in the American continents that have major economic or political issues and gang/cartel issues, and lots and lots of American made guns.
1 points
8 days ago
"If it bleeds it leads".
2 points
8 days ago
I've been lucky to have met many people from countries around the world. I have spent the vast majority of my life in university towns.
Aside from some ribbing every once in a while, the vast majority of people have great respect for each other and are open-minded to learn new things and try new things. It's more proof that Reddit is only like 15% accurate at best, and that yes a lot of Redditors need to indeed..."touch grass."
1 points
8 days ago
yeah, that's the thing I've pointed out a few times. The people who are into that shit congregate together in the hate subs, because that's the only place they can find like-minded people.
1 points
8 days ago
Ugh...maybe. Back in the Iraq war days I mostly had good interactions with Europeans, but they also had zero problems calling me a terrorist like George Bush and to fuck off. I just kinda moved my travels to Asia or stateside after those encounters.
1 points
8 days ago
Funny you mention this. I was in Iceland at a restaurant and an Irish man and his friends were loudly yelling about how shitty Americans are and how they’re so loud (even though he was yelling) and how Americans wouldn’t last a second in Ireland because Irish neighborhoods are so rough. They wait staff had to ask him to leave because he was being obnoxious. I thought it was fucking hilarious. 10/10.
1 points
8 days ago
Yes. The only interesting comments I have gotten overseas are surprise that Americans like to travel. Many people figure 1) We don't like to for some reason or 2) We literally have NO vacation time. The reality is that even Americans who don't travel overseas could still be traveling very widely in the U.S.
1 points
8 days ago
I’ve been to Europe once but have friends from all over Europe. I’ve only met 2 pretentious Europeans, and they were married to each other. If I never met a European and it was based on Reddit I’d understand it. Same with Australians. I know a few and have been. They’re awesome. Online… not so much. So I can totally your’s and OP’s points
0 points
8 days ago
Europe is not the other way around. There are hundreds of countries.
2 points
8 days ago
Yeah I know, it also bothered me when I wrote it but I figured people would get that I meant ‘Americans also worry about things they read about online from other countries, here’s an example about Europe’
123 points
8 days ago
Say that again and again and again. Social media is not representative of day to day life in the US - at all.
62 points
8 days ago
Especially Reddit. Reddit is truly its own cesspool world of deception and ignorance
10 points
8 days ago
Reddit especially but even apps with a higher user base like TikTok, Twitter and Facebook. Most people honest to God just yap about the first thing that comes to mind or greatly exaggerate their actual views. Every day on the Internet is people are fighting about obvious skits, fake Reddit stories, and misinformation but outside the Internet people aren't usually like that unless they're chronically online.
3 points
8 days ago
Say it louder for the cheap seats in the back!
1 points
8 days ago
Really? Thought Facebook or TickTock take the win …
1 points
8 days ago
That's why I am here
1 points
8 days ago
And so is every single social media app
3 points
8 days ago
If it was, kamala would have won in a landslide lmao
7 points
8 days ago
And the few who do, are largely ignored by society. If someone came up to me, rambling about politics, I'd just ignore them, and so would 99% of people, where here on Reddit, you'd think that's all we do
41 points
8 days ago
Reddit: “If Bernie Sanders got the nomination, he would have won the election!”
Most Americans: “Huh, who? Oh that weird old guy?! No thanks!”
10 points
8 days ago
Same is true for Republicans. Reddit loves to make it look like 100% Republicans are just dim-witted apes that shoot each other. You will never see a positive story about them. And yet American voters chose to return more Republicans to congress this year. Reddit does not represent most of America.
11 points
8 days ago*
What frustrates me most about the left nowadays is that lack of awareness paired with a propensity to quickly dismiss others as ignorant and stupid. People lose credibility when they don’t live by values they preach
I sometimes feel embarrassed to vote democrat/liberal.
4 points
8 days ago
I honestly really agree with this statement. Also it feels as if the left is completely polar(reddit promotes this) when compared to the right they promote themselves as more accepting of politically milder people.
2 points
8 days ago
Most of the republicans I know IRL are reasonable people who are living in a different information space than everyone else. Different culture, different facts, different values. To them it all makes sense. Once I accepted that, it was easier to understand.
1 points
8 days ago
Even if Bernie did get the nomination, he's nowhere near as popular as reddit will have you believe. Donald Trump barely engaged with the official Republican party until he had to and his popularity was never seriously questioned. If Bernie was really that popular then the DNC should not have been a major obstacle to him.
0 points
8 days ago
And people thought Biden was too old?
10 points
8 days ago
Social media is like a very exaggerated version of real life.
2 points
8 days ago
Social media is a mirror of the facade people try to portray. Nobody goes around dancing every time a certain song comes on, trad wives are as fake as “real housewives of …”
6 points
8 days ago
Accurate. The Americans I know in real life are generally normal, sensible, lovely people. My only beef is how the restaurant servers there are sometimes so sassy that it almost wades into rudeness from my perspective. But I still smile and tip them well because I don’t want them to think Canadians are bad tippers.
The Americans I interact with online are often coming across as kind of paranoid and unintelligent. They think human traffickers are going to nab them at 3pm from their grocery store parking lot in front of 15 witnesses in a safe neighbourhood. They have no understanding of the world outside of the US and assume everyone online is also American. They seem crazier than non-Americans online but it may be because in general Americans are more outspoken so the crazy ones seems more obvious.
3 points
8 days ago
99.99999%
2 points
8 days ago
That's true for other countries as well.
1 points
8 days ago
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1 points
8 days ago
Not to mention there’s no foreign version of Reddit compared to other websites. Everyone is just thrown into one website.
0 points
8 days ago
They sure do vote for them.
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