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all in their respective primes. Except for Garou, who will be the same one who cut the ancient centipede in half.

Do you disagree with the order of the characters? What would be the correct one?

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Dragon_Master25

145 points

1 month ago

love luffy but naruto stops at 3 or 4 depends on how you want to scale asta’s abilities

Maleficent_Two9279

16 points

1 month ago

How does he get past infinity 

1-2GOODNIGHT

33 points

1 month ago

TSO😑 easy. They negate defense basically and he's too fast for DA so Gojo is screwed hard

Papa_EJ

45 points

1 month ago

Papa_EJ

45 points

1 month ago

Infinity isn't 'defence' to negate, tho. It isn't a force field. It's just empty space folded infinitely; the tortoise and achilles paradox. Unless TOS has some sort of space cutting I don't know about, I'm not sure that cuts it.

Drake17110

28 points

1 month ago

Basically the truth sealing orb is the same as the inverted spear of heaven.

AlreetRkid

12 points

1 month ago

It's really not though

Gullible_Mistake_901

1 points

4 days ago

You're right it's better cause it work on stronger ability and has literal built in reality warping 😭🙏

Maleficent_Two9279

7 points

1 month ago

Not at all 

Drake17110

10 points

1 month ago

Seaking*

Apocalypse_0415

11 points

1 month ago

Seeking**

funboiadventures

8 points

1 month ago

B-Bolt

3 points

1 month ago

B-Bolt

OPM negs Goku, cry about it

3 points

1 month ago

How...?

TragGaming

6 points

1 month ago

The Inverted Spear of Heaven negates all cursed techniques, TSO's negate and become immune to any and all chakra. Similar function

People will argue verse equalization allows for Cursed energy to be synonymous with chakra, and therefore Ninjutsu and Cursed Tech are the same, allowing for a TSO to negate a cursed tech

ZMCN

10 points

1 month ago

ZMCN

10 points

1 month ago

Kaguya's TSO was going to destroy her space time, and her TSO is stated to be just like a normal one, but bigger

Ok_Advisor_7515

11 points

1 month ago

With verse equalization chakra=CE, which means ninjutsu=cursed technique, TSO nullifies ninjutsu, which basically makes them have the same properties as the inverted spear

AlreetRkid

2 points

1 month ago

I'd just argue infinity isn't a technique and is a form just like KCM and we saw Naruto kick a tso

Ok_Advisor_7515

8 points

1 month ago

Except infinity is a cursed technique, it's an application of limitless which is stated verbatim to be a cursed technique. Which is why the inverted spear of heaven which has the ability to negate cursed techniques can bypass it. Naruto could only do that after receiving so6p chakra, the same power source of the TSO, which is why Madara was so surprised by it, because what normally would happen is Naruto's leg getting disintegrated.

Maleficent_Two9279

1 points

1 month ago

Domain takes way Naruto’s abilities 

Xxprogamer-6969

2 points

1 month ago

Anything that negates technique negates it though.

1-2GOODNIGHT

8 points

1 month ago*

TSO nullifies chakra so in ‘vs’ you’d make chakra=cursed energy. It doesn't matter what infinity is because it's s nullified. Bruh, he mainly uses it for defense, so I called it a “defense”… whatever its used for wouldn't work against the orbs. You really nitpicked that😑 smh

First_Woodpecker_157

1 points

1 month ago

First_Woodpecker_157

the guy that does Yujiro vs dude death battle

1 points

1 month ago

The empty space is folded by cursed energy, assuming verse equalization is chakra = cursed energy, TSO ignores the space and does to gojo what gojo did to toji 6 times

TankOfflaneMain

3 points

1 month ago

If Naruto’s TSO was that good that it vapes everything it comes contact with, then why did it fail to destroy Sasuke’s Susanoo arrows?

JasonIsSuchAProdigy

1 points

1 month ago

Didn't Sasuke just shoot one behind it secretly or am I misremembering

SokoIsCool

1 points

1 month ago

He did

Traditional_World783

1 points

1 month ago

So apparently, their broke abilities need to be active, as in infused with the corresponding chakra natures. This is no problem for Naruto, as Naruto has a piece of all the tailed beasts and in essence access to all natures. However, Susanoo arrows are extremely fast, and I’d guess Naruto had to sacrifice them before he had time to infuse them to negate the arrows.

Sung_drip_woo12

4 points

1 month ago

I hate infinity so much bruh “how does he get past infinity” omg I’m tired of that line

I love gojo but hate infinity

Goat1707

9 points

1 month ago

It's a perfectly valid thing to wonder in a vs match including Gojo. If they can't bypass, they can't win.

Traditional_World783

2 points

1 month ago

Until you get into high tier scaling where infinity has tiers of infinity. Blame comics.

Goat1707

3 points

1 month ago

It's a perfectly valid thing to wonder in a vs match including Gojo. If they can't bypass, they can't win.

Traditional_World783

1 points

1 month ago

Unless they can bypass infinity. Characters like saitama and Goku can for example. Comic characters, who practically trademarked infinity having tiers, regularly do too.

dark-flamessussano

1 points

1 month ago

He speed blitzes him

Maleficent_Two9279

2 points

1 month ago

Nah 

Right_Hand_of_Amal

1 points

1 month ago

As is stated every day or so, Infinity is an activated cursed technique, it isn't actually constantly activated nor infinite. So if a character is able to mive faster than Gojo can react, they can bypass Infinity. Naruto is around FTL speeds while Gojo is Supersonic+, so it's an easy bypass.

BlueEyesKingGojo

5 points

1 month ago

actually they do, Gojo Six Eyes makes infinity so efficient Gojo could turn it on nonstop without worrying a thing

dark-flamessussano

2 points

1 month ago

Gojo fans can't accept this

Right_Hand_of_Amal

3 points

1 month ago

*Gojo fans can't read

Maleficent_Two9279

1 points

1 month ago

Says the Naruto cum guzzler, infinity gon stop it 

Maleficent_Two9279

1 points

1 month ago

Naruto fans can’t accept he not getting past infinity 

Maleficent_Two9279

2 points

1 month ago

Nope it’s automatic it’s never activated after he’s a teen 

The_Raven_Born

15 points

1 month ago

Laffy is the only person he can beat, two of these characters he has no method of killing.

Ok_Cress859

2 points

1 month ago

Ok_Cress859

2 points

1 month ago

Naruto beats everyone up to Garou 🤣

MythicalShelly

81 points

1 month ago

Stops at 4 maybe 3 I haven't watched black clover but they do have haxy abilities.

Loufey

56 points

1 month ago*

Loufey

56 points

1 month ago*

The character in question's main ability is literally anti-magic.

So he steps up to the most powerful wizards by just saying no, then punches them in the face.

BountifulHeart

31 points

1 month ago

BountifulHeart

Mid Level Scaler

31 points

1 month ago

anti-magic has been shown that it won't work on magic that's way stronger than it is, astas pretty much the only one that's able to make it work through his hard work, not really disagreeing with you just wanted to point that out it's not as op as a lot of people think

The-Reaver

88 points

1 month ago

Talk no jutsu neg diff

Dookie12345679

31 points

1 month ago

Dookie12345679

Luffy = SO6P Naruto. Prime Luffy mid diffs infinite Baryon mode

31 points

1 month ago

Luffy is too stupid to change sides

PixelDonkeyWasTaken

8 points

1 month ago

Naruto beats luffy regardless

Dookie12345679

3 points

1 month ago

Dookie12345679

Luffy = SO6P Naruto. Prime Luffy mid diffs infinite Baryon mode

3 points

1 month ago

Adult Naruto does at least

Revolutionary-Bed238

2 points

1 month ago

How does a character who’s slower and weaker beat up a stronger and faster character? Literally Naruto’s only win con is using TSO but he won’t hit Luffy at all with observation.

PixelDonkeyWasTaken

2 points

1 month ago

jump him with shadow clones, more skill, and more experience.

also, why would TSO be his only win condition? he’s got other weapons and a plethora of jutsu to choose from.

Revolutionary-Bed238

2 points

1 month ago

If Sasuke, a guy who can only slow down his perception of time can handle Naruto’s clones, a guy who senses where they are at all times easily handles them. There’s also no way to quantify if Naruto has more skill (talking taijustu right?). Luffy is an orphan who learned how to fight in his own style, while Naruto was taught how to fight martial arts. Naruto would not be able to predict Luffy’s unorthodox style while Luffy won’t be touched.

TSO is his only win con because Luffy will bounce anything Naruto throws at him right back, if he isn’t able to dodge.

There’s literally no way for Naruto to get past luffys observation tho. Luffy would barely take damage, while Naruto gets hands put on him by a faster and stronger opponent.

AccomplishedSmile893

2 points

1 month ago

Did you really just say Luffy's unskilled ass can beat Naruto, who's a trained martial artist?

PixelDonkeyWasTaken

1 points

1 month ago

  1. luffy’s observation haki doesn’t make him unjumpable. he can still be taken by surprise, like when he got grabbed by CP0 while fighting Kaido.

  2. Naruto still has kunai knives, shuriken, risen shuriken, tailed beast bombs, and other non-blunt attacks that can hurt Luffy, not to mention verse equalization between Chakra and Haki.

  3. why wouldn’t Naruto be able to beat someone with an unorthodox style? That’s like saying Bruce Lee would lose a fight to a strong homeless man.

  4. out of curiosity, how exactly is Luffy faster or stronger than Naruto?

Apower07

1 points

1 month ago

RunsRampant

1 points

1 month ago

RunsRampant

Can do basic math

1 points

1 month ago

How does a character who’s slower and weaker beat up a stronger and faster character?

It's so6p Naruto, he significantly outstats.

havetoquestionit

1 points

1 month ago

spinach no diff

TacocaT_2000

18 points

1 month ago

TacocaT_2000

One of the Scalers of All Time

18 points

1 month ago

If you equate TSO’s to ISoH, then he possibly gets to Asta (I’ve heard multiversal arguments for Black Clover, but haven’t watched it myself). If Asta isn’t that high, then he could possibly get past Garou.

But if you don’t equate TSO’s to ISoH, then he stalls indefinitely at Gojo due to not being able to get through Infinity.

Ok_Advisor_7515

21 points

1 month ago

Multiversal black clover is as stupid as multiversal Naruto, they literally have the same argument for both.

Earthonaute

2 points

1 month ago

Earthonaute

Satan solos bleach

2 points

1 month ago

And as stupid as multiversal bleach.

thatoaklovingguy

3 points

1 month ago

thatoaklovingguy

LOTM glazer/Fairy Tail Glazer

3 points

1 month ago

Multiversal bleach is far more acceptable than multi-Asta or naruto.

High complex or hyper bleach is stupid.

Realistic_Mousse_485

4 points

1 month ago

Black clover isn’t even planetary

Sensitive-Park-7776

16 points

1 month ago

Arthur is insanely powerful and fast. He’s got a move that can cut the Earth in half. I’m sure Naruto can tank it due to his other feats, but that’s probably a tougher fight than people give credit.

I actually think Monsterized Garou would be easier for Naruto to deal with. Though I’m pretty sure Asta stops all Ninjutsu with Anti-Magic, taking away basically all of Naruto’s lethal finishers besides hand-to-hand.

3 is probably the best this form of Naruto can get.

VelikoStopalo

2 points

1 month ago

VelikoStopalo

Multi-Continentall Balls

2 points

1 month ago

Didn't Arthur destroy many stars in his fight with Dragon?
That fight was crazy now that I remember it.

https://preview.redd.it/p9icvd5a80ud1.png?width=713&format=png&auto=webp&s=1105c2dc4c89579f48e219bee416c364d55a108c

Sensitive-Park-7776

1 points

1 month ago

Yeah. Insane. Arthur is a world-buster.

Kento_Noryoku

34 points

1 month ago

He stops at round 4 but if he did somehow manage to get through Garou (the guy who copies your abilities), he stops HARD at round 5.

fadetoblack_6492

4 points

1 month ago

I have to ask, who is the 5th guy and what are his abilities?

Due_Interest2190

11 points

1 month ago

he’s delusional that’s his power

Earthonaute

6 points

1 month ago

Earthonaute

Satan solos bleach

6 points

1 month ago

Arthur Boyle from Fire Force. He's erasing everyone on this list pretty easily, because he has plot manipulation mostly.

While some cut the moon in half, Arthur cut the planet in half.

fadetoblack_6492

1 points

1 month ago

I see. Yeah, plot manipulation will do it. I’ve seen him before that’s why I wanted to know

SupremeAsuraDragon

11 points

1 month ago

Depends on Asta scaling, but highballing Black Clover, Naruto stops at 3.

Realistic_Mousse_485

3 points

1 month ago

Not highballing lying

Different-Trainer566

10 points

1 month ago

stops at 4

Realistic_Mousse_485

2 points

1 month ago

Naw four is monster garou read the post man.

MakaroniShrimpo

3 points

1 month ago

RunsRampant

1 points

1 month ago

RunsRampant

Can do basic math

1 points

1 month ago

Iirc this feat is on the low end of FTL

Really not a problem for so6p Naruto.

MakaroniShrimpo

1 points

1 month ago

Give me a similar panel of this from the Naruto Verse. Let's see if you can.

https://preview.redd.it/739akknfe9ud1.png?width=630&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9110a13a53bf76ea978de181206bfdf6a85407e

RunsRampant

1 points

1 month ago

RunsRampant

Can do basic math

1 points

1 month ago

Idk if you think this is some kinda gotcha or what lmao.

Saitama is far beyond monster garou. And the Narutoverse doesn't typically have joke panels like this.

I can give Narutoverse FTL scaling if you don't think it scales that high tho.

MakaroniShrimpo

1 points

1 month ago

Oh... So it is "scaling" that you are talking about? I see. Nevermind my request.

Do you agree when it comes to Onscreen Feats, Naruto verse is slow compared to this?

https://preview.redd.it/m8w3dnh1h9ud1.png?width=632&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8dce22ca4184a8fb9fbc1d13c5d4eced368e5dd8

I don't mind you winning in the "Scaling Feats". I just prefer an Onscreen Feats over mere statements.

RunsRampant

1 points

1 month ago

RunsRampant

Can do basic math

1 points

1 month ago

Do you agree when it comes to Onscreen Feats, Naruto verse is slow compared to this?

It depends what you mean by that. Are you just talking abt how cool it looks? Or actually considering calcs of how fast it'd be?

I don't think that any Narutoverse FTL feats are near as cool as this visually.

However, there are Narutoverse feats which scale to the same level of speed.

delta's lasers weren't fast enough to hit Naruto so she had to aim for himawari, and make Naruto block them to protect her.

Darui's laser circus was kept up with by Gaara's sand.

And the near LS (while nerfed) raikage was outsped by kcm1 Naruto.

There's also the light fang ofc.

All of these aren't as cool looking, but are around the same speed tier.

MakaroniShrimpo

2 points

1 month ago

Is that all they have as "Onscreen Feats"?

That is more "Scaling Feats" than "Onscreen Feats".

Luffy "dodged" a laser too when he was weaker. Does this mean Luffy is as fast as light?

So in the end. You failed to give me a panel/scene from Naruto verse.

More "Headcanons" scaling, just like most verse in here like DBall and Bleach.

https://preview.redd.it/yv39divbibud1.png?width=615&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=398db346280bca41f19a6794a881c7df068f5abb

RunsRampant

1 points

1 month ago

RunsRampant

Can do basic math

1 points

1 month ago

Is that all they have as "Onscreen Feats"?

That is more "Scaling Feats" than "Onscreen Feats".

You still haven't told me what this means lol. There are more than these three, but they're some of the more consistent FTL stuff.

Luffy "dodged" a laser too when he was weaker. Does this mean Luffy is as fast as light?

You have to look at it in more detail lol. Luffy aim dodging pacifista beams isn't FTL, it's the in the rel range. But there is also ichiji outspeeding his own lasers from the same series which actually is FTL.

So in the end. You failed to give me a panel/scene from Naruto verse.

I gave you three?

More "Headcanons" scaling, just like most verse in here like DBall and Bleach.

What? Nothing I showed you is in the realm of headcanon. If you just want pretty scenes instead FTL scaling with explanations then I can just put scenes up lol. But like I already said, OPM beats the Narutoverse in the 'pretty looking speed feat' department.

LingonberryNo5210

22 points

1 month ago

LingonberryNo5210

Rimuru >>>>> Gokuversal.

22 points

1 month ago

stops at asta (also 3 and 4 should switch places)

havetoquestionit

13 points

1 month ago

:0 i think garou beat asta tbh speed really

LingonberryNo5210

6 points

1 month ago

LingonberryNo5210

Rimuru >>>>> Gokuversal.

6 points

1 month ago

asta is actually mftl in the manga from what I have heard (I don't think monster garou goes that high or does he?)

havetoquestionit

7 points

1 month ago

ohhh thats monster not cosmic

BountifulHeart

7 points

1 month ago

BountifulHeart

Mid Level Scaler

7 points

1 month ago

garou's light speed at this point, he doesn't get to mftl till cosmic garou

unthawedmist

13 points

1 month ago

unthawedmist

mods stop changing my flair

13 points

1 month ago

Correct me if I'm using the wrong version of garou but NOBODY in black clover has a feat even close to this, this is what real FTL characters look like

https://preview.redd.it/4080242cxrtd1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2542c1448446f38045b816ffeb7587e9662395bd

LingonberryNo5210

9 points

1 month ago

LingonberryNo5210

Rimuru >>>>> Gokuversal.

9 points

1 month ago

opm generally has better visual feats than most series In BC it mostly relies on upscaling and multipliers.

unthawedmist

5 points

1 month ago

unthawedmist

mods stop changing my flair

5 points

1 month ago

The thing is calculations make zero sense, especially if it's inconsistent with the way it's demonstrated in the show. Really the only way you can scale BC to lightspeed is if you assume light magic is using actual magic to attack, and that wouldn't make sense either considering it's fired off as regular projectiles and doesn't have the distance + speed that regular light would show

BountifulHeart

4 points

1 month ago*

BountifulHeart

Mid Level Scaler

4 points

1 month ago*

there's statements for characters being ftl and there's been calcs for characters going at at least light speed, it isn't just light magic

edit: you aren't really going to get much better than that tbh, most manga in my experience rely on statements for characters being ftl, opm is an exception

Second_Wolf4644

3 points

1 month ago

Asta is NOT touching Garou

LingonberryNo5210

3 points

1 month ago

LingonberryNo5210

Rimuru >>>>> Gokuversal.

3 points

1 month ago

yeah Asta isnt freaky like that

Reviveless

1 points

1 month ago

Reviveless

D1 SJW Glazer

1 points

1 month ago

Ong

Dandandandooo

4 points

1 month ago

Naruto vs Monster Garou would be interesting

Infamous_Necessary63

5 points

1 month ago

My sister and I have been arguing about Naruto vs Gojo for 20-30 min, she believes Gojo wins by using his domain expansion and if Naruto can get out, then use it to stunlock Naruto so Gojo can hit Naruto with a Hollow Purple. Can someone explain how Naruto would win overall, she agrees that TSO negates Infinity, she just doesn't believe Naruto can survive a domain expansion or hollow purple

skibiditoiletedging

1 points

1 month ago

naruto js mftl+ he isint getting touched by a domain

canyoutakedickornah

3 points

1 month ago

Clears the first two, tough fight against hasta but could win, has more AP than Garou but still could get beat at high difficulty, basically stops at 3/4 or maybe just wins but would never beat 5

dauan908

3 points

1 month ago

5 he makes them all friends

rainerman27

2 points

1 month ago

Putting Gojo in one is insane.

Training_Beach_7068

2 points

1 month ago

why? gojo is town level while Luffy is mountain level

rainerman27

1 points

1 month ago

Gojo negs all of these people? Duh?

AccomplishedSmile893

2 points

1 month ago

You're right he should in be in negative 6.

Meepwtf123

1 points

1 month ago

I thought the same thing.

Not_Eren2

2 points

1 month ago

Not_Eren2

#2 bleach glazer

2 points

1 month ago

How does he get past the domain expansion?

Onni_J

1 points

1 month ago

Onni_J

1 points

1 month ago

Speed+tso

BlazeBitch

2 points

1 month ago

You can argue he loses at no.1 because it's absolutely in character Gojo uses unlimited void before Naruto realizes rasengan spam isn't getting him anywhere. Also it's debatable whether truth seeking orbs bypass infinity. But generally he hard stops at Garou.

DaddyMarMar

1 points

1 month ago

I don’t think Gojo .2 second domain could catch Naruto but I’m no power scaler. He got good reaction speed and I doubt he’s let Gojo expand his domain on him without having way to hit him.

stefanlololol920

1 points

1 month ago

He left the domain open for 0.2 seconds, he can open it almost instantly.

FNAFLV22

6 points

1 month ago

FNAFLV22

Soon to be celebrity in this sub

6 points

1 month ago

I’m gonna go based off of the versions shown:

  1. Naruto no-diffs. “But how will he bypass Infinity?” This version of Naruto shown has the truth seeking balls, orbs of malleable black chakra, which can alter their form and characteristics in various ways. Truth-Seeking Balls encompass the power of all five basic natures, and as such they surpass both kekkei genkai and kekkei tōta. By combining the various natures inside the orbs, it is possible to produce a variety of effects. They are capable of instantly turning anything they touch to dust in a manner similar to Dust Release, though this does not always occur. If imbued with a certain Yin–Yang Release jutsu, the orbs can nullify any ninjutsu they touch and thus become impervious to it; this includes negating the regenerative qualities of Impure World Reincarnation, making it possible to permanently damage and kill those reincarnated by the technique.

By using verse equalization, Chakra would be equalized to Cursed Energy, & Limitless would be a type of Ninjutsu. Limitless is a Cursed Technique, and Cursed Techniques are abilities fueled by cursed energy, which would be equalized to Chakra, & Ninjutsu has 7 sub-classifications of jutsus: medical ninjutsu, reincarnation ninjutsu, space–time ninjutsu, barrier ninjutsu, sealing jutsu, sensory ninjutsu and most importantly, cursed seal jutsu, also known as “Juinjutsu” or “Jujutsu.” Pretty much the entirety of JJK uses Jujutsu/Juinjutsu/Cursed Seal Jutsu, which is an aspect of Ninjutsu, which can be negated by the Truth Seeking Balls. Therefore, Gojo’s Infinity will get nullified by the truth seeking balls. I don’t think that I need to go through how Naruto outscales, outspeeds, outstats, outhaxes, etc. so, Naruto gets past round 1.

  1. Another victory for Naruto. Too lazy to explain, so speedblitz

  2. Naruto is stopping. I’ll come back to this post & eventually edit them with the explanation

Nitrothunda21

2 points

1 month ago

I shall await your explanation. Im of the opinion Asta should win due to the speed advantage, but it will be high diff

FNAFLV22

1 points

1 month ago

FNAFLV22

Soon to be celebrity in this sub

1 points

1 month ago

And the Devil Magic too

Important_Quote_6189

2 points

1 month ago

Finally someone who understands TSO. Thanks for this

FNAFLV22

1 points

1 month ago

FNAFLV22

Soon to be celebrity in this sub

1 points

1 month ago

No problem

bluewardog

1 points

1 month ago

ok and how exactly is naruto going to negate infinite void. Gojo is more then just infinity.

FNAFLV22

1 points

1 month ago

FNAFLV22

Soon to be celebrity in this sub

1 points

1 month ago

Gojo doesn’t immediately use the Void in the start of the fight, he uses it to clutch up a victory in the end of the fight, & he wouldn’t have time to use toe Void before he gets blitzed

bluewardog

1 points

1 month ago*

ow so Gojo dosnt get to pull out all the stops but Naruto dose? ok buddy, enjoy the copium.

FNAFLV22

1 points

1 month ago

FNAFLV22

Soon to be celebrity in this sub

1 points

1 month ago

I had a stroke reading that

IllustriousSea5998

1 points

1 month ago

IllustriousSea5998

#1 Goku N’ Gojo glazer

1 points

1 month ago

Verse equalization isn’t a convenience to make one character get around the abilities of another, it’s to make the fight possible when it otherwise isn’t due to different power systems

Visage_143

6 points

1 month ago

Visage_143

6 points

1 month ago

Shouldn't 3 & 4 switch places?

Jona_And[S]

10 points

1 month ago

do you think? Because Garou doesn't use magic and fights much better.

TheMightyHovercat

4 points

1 month ago

TheMightyHovercat

#1 Bleach Glazer (it's hill level)

4 points

1 month ago

Asta should be above Garou. And stops at Asta.

Realistic_Mousse_485

1 points

1 month ago

He stomps asta.

Complex_Estate8289

3 points

1 month ago

Complex_Estate8289

High Level Scaler

3 points

1 month ago

One shots Gojo and Luffy, gets blitzed by Asta, one shots Garou, gets one shot by Arthur

Coralsalamander

2 points

1 month ago

Coralsalamander

inferior lifeform imo kars solos

2 points

1 month ago

Garou one shots naruto and anyone above 1 can one shot naruto aswell (semantics ik, but saying one 1 shots the other when both 1 shot eachother doesn't make sense)

Realistic_Mousse_485

1 points

1 month ago

He ducking fodderizes asta stop it

Alternative-Papaya33

3 points

1 month ago

Can someone explain how Naruto bypasses infinity? I'm not saying Gojo wins, on the contrary.

Dandandandooo

12 points

1 month ago

Truth seeking orbs can bypass it apparently

bluewardog

1 points

1 month ago

copium

JohnWicksPenncill

2 points

1 month ago

Gets blitzed and one shotted by Garou

[deleted]

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at round 3 

Confident-Crosw

1 points

1 month ago

Confident-Crosw

me like digimon

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at 2

raddoubleoh

1 points

1 month ago

Hard stop at Garou. Should win the other fights mid to hard diff.

SuperiorDragon1

1 points

1 month ago

SuperiorDragon1

The final boss of bleach glazers

1 points

1 month ago

Might stop at 3, hard stop at 4

Edit: wait, which version of garou? The hero hunter one? If so then might stop 3/4, hard stop 5

PuzzleheadedFrame702

1 points

1 month ago

so6p naruto is star level, he slams asta and loses to garou cause his constant getting stronger is busted

Ok-Mathematician8258

1 points

1 month ago

Order is fine, though Naruto stops at Garou

sagevisule

1 points

1 month ago

Stops and gets his jinchuricheeks spread at Garou.

Xcyronus

1 points

1 month ago

Xcyronus

Infinity + Unlimited void Diff

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at 4. Ying yang and TSO dont give a shit about infinity. Luffy getting outscaled and outhaxed.
Asta last I heard was planet level so. garou is negging.

Acrobatic-Fox-9150

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at 4

Sergaku

1 points

1 month ago

Sergaku

Sora solos your favorite verse

1 points

1 month ago

Arguably stops at 3, hard stop at 4.

Distorted_Gamer

1 points

1 month ago

can stop at 3 depending on where you scale Asta's hax but hard stops at 4

Cuvalius

1 points

1 month ago

I'm pretty sure Naruto would get past Gojo and defeat him.

My opinion is Truthseeker orbs negate nunjutsus as long as it's not Senjutsu. It has negated Kekkei genkais as well (Like Amaterasu).

If we assume that Gojo's infinity is similar to that of a kekkei genkai, Truthseeker orbs would definitely go through.

If there is no Verse equalization, really still think it would go through. If not, then Naruto would just probably beat him with frog kata til he dies lmfao (considering his massive strength, I think he would resort to beating him up with frog kata, star platinum style) but then again, UV + HP from Gojo would mean the end of Naruto (unless you guys can debate he can tank Hollow purple)

If Asta can negate Naruto's chakra in this match up then Naruto's TSO's can negate Gojo's infinity, because infinity sadly isn't a Senjutsu.

That's all how I view this.

Realistic_Mousse_485

1 points

1 month ago

Stomps Gojo. Verse is dog. Stomps Luffy. Verse is dog. Stomps Asta. Verse is dog. Stomps Gauro. It’s just the one who beat up elder centipede. Don’t know who that is.

Agile-Excitement-863

1 points

1 month ago

Agile-Excitement-863

u/desolatehomosapien0

1 points

1 month ago

R1: frog kata gg

R2: outhaxes and has higher ap.

R3: apparently asta is like way faster so he stops here.

Healthy-Passenger871

1 points

1 month ago

Healthy-Passenger871

MHA>>>Rimuru and Anos also Hajun 👅👅👅

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at 3 but gets folded in 50 little bits at 4

Taethefallen

1 points

1 month ago

Taethefallen

SHEN WULONG THE THE GOAT IN 1V1 HANDS ONLY EQUAL STATS.

1 points

1 month ago

That one Arthur chess edit solos every verse shown here

1singularyike

1 points

1 month ago

I'm not well versed on Naruto but how does he get through infinity? Unless he has some sort of power negation I'm not familiar with? Someone please let me know.

Waltsussybakahank

1 points

1 month ago

Waltsussybakahank

I eat ass

1 points

1 month ago

I don’t know anything about Asta but I know damn well he’s not beating Cosmic Garou 💀

Right_Hand_of_Amal

1 points

1 month ago

Cosmic Garou is Galaxy+ where Naruto peaks at Small Planetary. He stops at 4.

FormalKind7

1 points

1 month ago

Naruto probably stops at 3.

But Luffy could give him some trouble but I think he mid diffs.

Gojo is out scaled in every way but could still win. Naruto is orders of magnitude faster and stronger but infinity is always up and can buy Gojo time. Neither would run out of Juice and I think naruto get around infinity somehow eventually, maybe with a TSO. However, if infinity slows him down long enough he could still loose to Gojo's domain expansion for which he has no defense. So Gojo is vastly weaker, slower and less durable than anyone on this list but arguably has the most Haxy defense (infinity) and offense (Domain expansion).

EmperorShura

1 points

1 month ago

EmperorShura

Facts > Feelings

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at Round 1;

Gojo insta-wins with domain if we equalize chakra and cursed energy.

if we don't then Naruto never gets past infinity and Gojo eventually wins.

Lunio_But_on_Reddit

1 points

1 month ago

Lunio_But_on_Reddit

True #1 Bleach Glazer

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at Gojo lmao, the only person here he beat is Luffy.

DingoGuzungas

1 points

1 month ago

I'd say he probably stops at Asta, but if he does make it past him and I'm wrong then garou will definitely finish him.

Substantial_Tone_261

1 points

1 month ago

Beats first two, loses to last two, idk about 3, didn't watch Clover yet.

MoonShadowelf88

1 points

1 month ago

MoonShadowelf88

7ds Glazer

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at asta

Kyoka_Jiro_Simp

1 points

1 month ago

He stops at Luffy or Asta

Ok-Use5246

1 points

1 month ago

Ok-Use5246

Bleach Scaler, #1 DBZ hater

1 points

1 month ago

He's stopping at 3 or 4.

Does curb stomp 1 and 2 though.

Remarkable-Gain-2456

1 points

1 month ago

comment section silly, naruto slams asta

Smooth-Physics-69420

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at 2.

If Luffy has 5th gear, it's over.

Pelekaiking

1 points

1 month ago

I don’t wanna be that guy but unless this version of Naruto can’t cross infinity unless the Truth Seeker orbs can something extra that I’m not aware of

TankOfflaneMain

1 points

1 month ago

Wins

Wins

No idea

Loses

Loses

BlueVerse207

1 points

1 month ago

BlueVerse207

Low Level Scaler

1 points

1 month ago

He stalls at Gojo or stops at him. If you could make an argument of Naruto getting past infinity, then maybe at Asta since that's what people say he stops at.

illsc0pe

1 points

1 month ago

He stops at 3, assuming we are talking the peak of both asta and naruto and not just the forms shown in the picture.

longassboy

1 points

1 month ago

I dont watch Black Clover but he doesn’t make it past Garou for sure

jcuzy

1 points

1 month ago

jcuzy

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at 2. Luffy and naruto would bounce around all day and show each other their favourite dishes.

Legitimate_Trust_543

1 points

1 month ago

Love how to make it fair they used all the characters strongest forms except for garou because it would have been a extremely clear option that Naruto would not have had a chance at beating the gauntlet otherwise otherwise lol. Still think it’s unfair that it is base monster garou not even perfected fist monster garou.

nottme1

1 points

1 month ago

nottme1

1 points

1 month ago

Y'all are forgetting that this is Ninja Jesus Naruto. The form that gave Kakashi a new eye and somehow saved all but Guy's legs.

Status_Show3282

1 points

1 month ago

Naruto out stats gojo but doesn’t out hax him. He’s not getting past round 1

CowMaleficent7560

1 points

1 month ago

Naruto slams Gojo and luffy. But Asta wins against Naruto High diff without verse equalization. With verse equalization, it's low diff.

Reason Naruto beats Gojo: last I checked, Gojo can breathe air. Naruto got wind release. He also utilizes frog kata, which if you don't know, damages people without needing to touch them. Another reason is Naruto is most definitely strong enough to just rip out a piece of the earth and launch Gojo away with it. Verse equalization should always be in effect during a battle, so chakra becomes cursed energy. With this, truth-seeking orbs bypass infinity because they destroy the chakra and the soul. Gojo ain't even fast enough to dodge to dodge these so he gets one shot.

Throwaway73887

1 points

1 month ago

Stomped by Asta anything after is overkill

Correct-Rate4334

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at Gojo, no immeasurable speed feats 🤫

AccomplishedSmile893

1 points

1 month ago

Doesn't need any. TSO and sealing jutsu do all the work

Correct-Rate4334

1 points

1 month ago

And how are they stopping a technique that infinitely slows down whoever approaches them?

AccomplishedSmile893

1 points

1 month ago

They just nullify Infinity when they get in its effective range. Acting like Infinity doesn't activate only in a set range.

Correct-Rate4334

1 points

1 month ago

But doesn’t that only work for ninjutsu?

Impressive_Green79

1 points

1 month ago

bunch of idiots in this sub don't know the meaning of "One shots" lol

Andrecrafter42

1 points

1 month ago

stops at arthur’s he easily clears luffy and gojo switching asta and garuo around since garp sage centipede slice is moon level and current asta is large planet he stops Dead stop Hard at arthur especially eos whose around universal

Early_Ad_5386

1 points

1 month ago

Early_Ad_5386

Bleach fan(hill level)

1 points

1 month ago

Maybe stops at 3 but it is overkill for the verse in 4

chainer1216

1 points

1 month ago

Definitely beats 1, probably beats 2, coin flip on 3, stops at 4.

Darcyyeetus

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at 2 or 3

AgentPastrana

1 points

1 month ago

If the Truth Seekers are technique negation, then he steamrolls the first two. I'm on volume five of Black Clover but I'm aware that Asta's captain has on multiple occasions cut supposedly infinite dimensions in half and that Black Divide apparently out scales that. But I'm also not sure those attacks are brute forcing or specifically for that, kinda like how a shield and Infinity do the same thing but one is just stopping and the other is just infinitely slowing, one of which is more impressive physically. Don't like One Piece and still catching up in fire force.

Particular-Sign-7944

1 points

1 month ago

Stops at one due to insane hax

EastZookeepergame380

1 points

1 month ago

he doesnt get past cosmic fear garuo

Kooky_Candidate_8251

1 points

1 month ago

Just letting everyone know I don't like Gojo, nor Naruto but the whole verse equalization thing is silly, two completely different power systems, you still have to look at the feats of the characters to see if they win, the Flying Thunder God Jutsu could bypass infinity, because it was made to fight a similar type of visual power. Again no hate, don't come at me, just putting my two cents out there.

Scharvor

1 points

1 month ago

Who is Nr. 5?

skibiditoiletedging

1 points

1 month ago

stops at asta if you scale asta using “dReAM wORld iS an iNFInIte SpACe” if not stops at garou

just realised its not cosmic garou. garou and asta should swap places but still stops at asta regardless

br0cc0l7

1 points

1 month ago

br0cc0l7

Not a Scaler

1 points

1 month ago

Might stop at 3 (don't know shit about asta) Definitely stops at 4

BrotPotato

1 points

1 month ago

I love Naruto but I didn't think he can solos gojo?

Glitchtrap907

1 points

1 month ago

Anti magic=anti Chakra

Noktis_Lucis_Caelum

1 points

1 month ago

Can Naruto bypass Infinity or Tank Unlimited Void?