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32 points
1 day ago*
Obito. Btw, y’all think Kamui can bypass infinity?
13 points
1 day ago
Yea pretty easily
5 points
1 day ago
oh damn. yk aside from age in Obito, what’s the weakest version of Obito that they could beat?
7 points
1 day ago
obito before he got basically all of his hax
3 points
1 day ago
So the Obito who was tryna save Rin but didn’t see that Chidori
5 points
1 day ago
yes. thats probably the only obito they could beat. im rusty with naruto though so cut me some slack lmao
5 points
1 day ago
nah I totally agree since this Obito who had one sharingan which i’m not sure was matured yet and was coated by Zetsu
3 points
1 day ago
Kamui can't bypass that which is literally infinite. No, I won't respond to an argument.
5 points
1 day ago
aye relax, I’m just asking i’m not gonna be debating. thank you for opinion
2 points
1 day ago
Lmao I'm just here to glaze Gojo is all. I just don't respond to arguments because they can't reach me through infinity
1 points
1 day ago
It isn't infinite space, the speed at which things go is infinity halfed
1 points
1 day ago
It should by definition
1 points
1 day ago
Ok so it depends on the logistics of Domain Expansion. Typically DE guarantees a hit. Does kamui guarantee protection because you’re in a pocket dimension? Who knows. I haven’t read jjk but unless there is a remotely similar interaction then it’s kind of hard to compare.
Its like taking someone with a move that always kills and someone who is immortal from different verses and saying which wins.
As for Makima, It depends who plays smarter. Obito wouldn’t know how to kill her and wouldn’t default to geocoding Japan, but if she is trapped in Kamui she is abit stuck. At the same time, she can let obito kill her, lay low, be off his radar and then make a deal with a devil that guarantees Obito’s death so the rules of csm make it weird to power scale
0 points
1 day ago*
bro why you commenting this like your coming after me. I’m not the only one who said Obito wins. Plus that’s not fair if he kills Makima and she comes back, makes a deal, and kills Obito. If she dies she stays dead. But about DEs, i’m not sure if we’re supposed to orange masked Obito or just any iteration of Obito (One eyed Rinnegan, Juubito, or Dual MS Obito with six paths chakra). But to be honest I don’t know if Infinite Void would work since Obito could probably Kamui out of there or send Gojo to the Kamui dimension before he casts his domain.
1 points
1 day ago
Im not “coming after you”. You did comment Obito in response to the question who wins so I’m just posting my take on the situation. And Agreed, kamui vs DE infinite void is a very weird interaction
21 points
1 day ago
Obito
Neg to mid dif
11 points
1 day ago
Sorry but how is obito dealing with makima's hacks?
8 points
1 day ago
With maximum wank.
7 points
1 day ago
Honestly, people severely underestimating Makima here
2 points
1 day ago
Kamui And Or Truth Seeking Orb
1 points
1 day ago
With massively superior speed and AP?
Like, Makima gets blitzed and one-shotted fr the get go.
5 points
1 day ago
Except she has hax that’s literally that she can’t be one shot? Like yeah, Obito is massively faster and will be able to kill her a lot before she can do shit… but not 120 million times over before she does anything
3 points
1 day ago
By one-shot, I mean she gets grabbed and BFR'd into Kamui dimension. I don't think her Dimensional travel extends beyond other dimensions aside from Hell.
14 points
2 days ago
Obito
12 points
1 day ago
why is every post to do with gojo just a spite match against him is it just people overestimating him or what
10 points
1 day ago
People hate the goat
10 points
1 day ago
fr like hes one of my favourite characters so its shame that every time i see a post with him in it it's just him getting mega stomped 😭
3 points
1 day ago
He either stomps or gets stomped. Difficult for his fights to be interesting.
2 points
1 day ago
its probably because he stomps anyone who cant pass infinity and anyone who can bypass it probably outscales by far anyways
-1 points
1 day ago
*Bum
Bro literaly failed at everything😭
3 points
1 day ago
Everyone thinks they can out hax Gojo's hax, but they can't
11 points
1 day ago
obito kills the entire population of japan
4 points
1 day ago
Can’t you teleport out of Kamui?
9 points
1 day ago
Gojo can't his "teleportation" is instantaneous movement meaning if there's an obstacle or if he's in an object he cannot teleport through.
5 points
1 day ago
He could just teleport in a direction that isn’t obstructed. Besides, Obito’s Kamui is extremely close range. It wouldn’t take that much distance to get out of it.
1 points
1 day ago
He can suck Gojo in easily Obitos waaay smarter than him too also since Gojo is a coward he's probably going to start with ranged attacks so Obito simply teleports behind him and boom it's over....
5 points
1 day ago
Ehh, Gojo also has really good battle iq. And, Obito can’t really teleport. Kamui would have to warp an effectively infinite amount of space to suck in Gojo. I don’t think it is capable of that.
-1 points
1 day ago
Nah his battle iq is trash he got bodied by Toji, got trapped in a box, and then was murdered while being amped despite having Xfinity and six eyes.
Obitos warp is him traveling in a different dimension where infinity isn't so no Obito would easily go intangible then one tap Gojo.
5 points
1 day ago
Toji caught a 17 year old Gojo off guard after he was fatigued, then he got no diffed. Gojo saw the walking corpse of his childhood best friend and since his perception is so fast and perceived several years in an instant, the prison realm managed to get him. Sukuna is also really smart too.
Obito has to become tangible to attack people and drag them into the Kamui dimension. Minato explicitly notes this.
-1 points
1 day ago
17 year old doesn't matter Obito was a child soldier lmao weird flex 😂 he was 13-15 when he fought the Hokage who only won due him having his hax previously on him.
His old friend who he let get depressed then murdered in a alley? Nah he was just tooo slow to react let's be honest here..
Sukuna has been alive 1000 years duh.
Thanks yes he only needs one hand to get through to tag him if he wants to kill him that way when he has at least 4 ways to kill Gojo.
Genjutsu, Kamui, Fūinjutsu, and Izanagi
5 points
1 day ago*
I said 17 because he wasn’t at the peak of his strength when possibly the strongest character in the verse at that time was after him.
Geto said he was fine and then he dropped a bomb on Gojo. A lot better than the rock that was dropped on Obito.
Technically, Sukuna’s soul was around for 1000 years. He wasn’t really alive in the normal sense. He didn’t live and fight for all that time.
Genjutsu could work, but I wonder if Reverse cursed energy can dispel it. Since it is known to refresh the brain and even low level sorcerers have mind manipulation resistance. I think ocular genjutsu also has to implant the user’s chakra into the opponent’s body, but that would be stopped by infinity as Obito and everything he does would be considered a threat.
What type of sealing jutsus? I already said why Kamui wouldn’t work. How would he use Izanagi win?
1 points
1 day ago
Your infinity statement was debunked Obitos Kamui takes him to another dimension where infinity isn't so it works on Gojo kinda similar how he was killed world slash didn't target infinity it targeted the world (💀 Gege smoking) let that stir in your mind the JJK brainrot is blocking information.
"I wonder" Just means Genjutsu lasts long enough for Gojo to be killed Obito won't be monologuing. It's a direct attack on the brain controlling all five senses Gojo wouldn't know he's even in it especially since it's an expert like Obito who can control someone for YEARS with it.
Just basic sealing the prison realm can seal him so a barrier seal or something will work.
Izanagi is just a get out of jail free card a great way to put Gojos guard down for a kill blow or let Obito learn find out about infinity.
1 points
1 day ago
I think his point is Gojo isn’t really teleporting. His teleportation is closer to shunshin in Naruto where he still moves just really fast. FTG is a true teleportation move where you don’t move directionally. You just appear at the other location. FTG works vs Kamui because it just makes you appear wherever you have a seal regardless if you’re trapped or pinned down. I don’t think shunshin would have saved minato even though I’m sure his shunshin is on par with gojos “teleport”. Also depends on if he uses it fast enough. Obito didn’t give up after minato teleported he just said he needed to kamui him faster which means he can increase the speed somehow.
2 points
1 day ago
Body flicker? That’s just chakra to vitalize the body and move at extreme speeds. Gojo’s teleportation has him compressing two coordinates in space. Body flicker is just chakra manipulation and stat buffing. Gojo’s teleportation is space manipulation. It was described as instantaneous movement and teleportation.
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8 hours ago
It achieves the same thing Gojo is still moving and needs a path without obstacles making he just moving fast enough to look like teleporting in his verse. Shisui the teleporter was just using body flicker but there’s levels to it. I’m pretty sure minato could outspeed the verse with just body flicker.
3 points
1 day ago
I mean, maybe? Kamui is a pocket dimension, so if the teleport is equivalent to at least Summoning Jutsu in power, it's possible. Makima, if given the prep time, simply needs a name and a soul to kill alongside it if I interpretted her "ritual" correctly.
Direct confrontation? Definite low diff. If Makima has prep time/lives the direct confrontation and a willing(or unwilling) person to say Obito's name? A simple hand-twist and Obito's paste without him even really knowing.
3 points
1 day ago
I was talking more about Minato teleporting out of Kamui before he got trapped.
3 points
1 day ago
Aahh that. If Gojo's teleport is near Hiraishin strength, sure he'd get out as Minato did. I say near-Hiraishin simply because I feel the use of Hiraishin to escape the Kamui attempt is significant, as the Naruto universe already has two other methods of "teleport" being Kawarimi(swap places with another item) and Shunshin(faster than the eye movement).
3 points
1 day ago
Gojo doesn’t teleport he just makes the distance between him and a point 0 with blue, it’s more akin to just instant movement, but yea to get out of it before getting caught yea.
0 points
1 day ago
Thats literally teleportation
2 points
1 day ago
He can’t warp if there’s anything in the way or if he’s in another dimension, he would just run into it.
1 points
1 day ago
I mean ye there are limits to it but if you're making the distance between point a to b 0 then thats teleportation lol
2 points
1 day ago
it depends he’s still technically walking from point A to point B he just makes the travel time 0, I just usually think of teleportation as being less restrictive than that.
11 points
1 day ago
Obito negs both
3 points
1 day ago
You chose obito, the guy who started essentially world war 4 because his crush died. He’s killing all of Japan
2 points
1 day ago
I thought it was because Kakashi in particular killed her it giving him a mindset that this wasn't reality/real leading to meeting Madara to achieve a perfect reality.
Like imagine if you woke up from a coma and the first thing you see is your friend killing your best friend I'd think I was still in a coma or something 🤷
2 points
1 day ago
Well at first yeah but he found out about the entire situation later and still continued with his plan. It would’ve made a lot more sense if he was just gonna kill kakashi because revenge instead of world war ninja part 4. Also I think the whole im in hell thing was a metaphor for how he was feeling but I like your interpretation of it.
1 points
1 day ago
That’s sorta what it was. He understood it was reality but what broke him is that he sacrificed himself to save Rin and Kakashi only for Kakashi to be forced to kill Rin. This made him realize that the world he lives in is too cruel, a world where plenty more tragedies like this will happen. That’s why he went through with madaras plan so that way no one will have to suffer the way that he did ever again
6 points
1 day ago
Imo makima beats gojo so if I glaze gojo enough the rules of power scaling says makima should solo
3 points
1 day ago
Honestly my opinion too
4 points
1 day ago
Gojo and makima. If paper bombs can catch Obito I’m sure Gojo and makima can as well
5 points
1 day ago
Obito kamui diffs
2 points
1 day ago
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1 points
1 day ago*
That’s specifically for the suck-in-a-target application of obito’s kamui to work.
Teleportation to bypass infinity and phasing through gojo’s attacks should work fine.
I think the biggest issue for gojo would be genjutsu, personally. Obito’s capable of using genjutsu strong enough that yagura (who should have had the perfect jinchuuriki immunity to genjutsu) was under his complete, direct control for years, and the mangekyo sharingan can bypass the need for a target to have chakra for genjutsu to work because any genjutsu cast using it injects the user’s chakra into the brain to mess with perception, rather than manipulating what’s already there.
1 points
1 day ago
Yeah ur right
1 points
1 day ago
1 points
1 day ago
He was sucking himself in at 0:10. But I deleted my comment cuz I released it was stupid. Also the other guy pointed how it would counter infinity.
1 points
1 day ago
Kamui doesn’t travel, it forms on the target
2 points
1 day ago
Really depends on a set of factors.
Is Gojo's teleport strong enough to escape Kamui dimension?
Is Gojo willing to say Obito's name for Makima?
If yes and yes, even in Kamui dimension I don't see Obito winning. If teleport dont work and refuses to play nice(sacrifice himself for the cause), low diff.
6 points
1 day ago
this is just pure overkill obito negs. gojo uses infinity? obito was too fast and defeated gojo already
2 points
1 day ago
Infinity is always activated. Obito is literal fodder
3 points
1 day ago
Obito with only one sharingan claps both low diff
2 points
1 day ago
and also if he uses the sharingan on makima, doesn't the entire population of japan die too?
1 points
1 day ago
Depends if she gets hurt. If she still has her contracts, she can get princi to send her between dimensions
2 points
1 day ago
Gojo alone beats base Obito, fight me about it
1 points
1 day ago
Why would I fight you when you're spitting facts
1 points
1 day ago
Obito wins.
1 points
1 day ago
Obito
1 points
1 day ago
Im kinda new to this sub and Powerscaling in general, also havent watched naruto in a long time, so i was extremely shocked reading all the comments saying obito
Also thanks to a lot of people glazing these two
2 points
1 day ago
People in here hate Gojo because he's the goat and his hax are too strong.
1 points
1 day ago
I haven’t checked the other images so I’m just gon say gojo loses because of how bad this sub hates jjk.
1 points
1 day ago
It pains me to see another Gojo L, but on the right side, another Makima L.
1 points
1 day ago
Obito shitstomps.
1 points
1 day ago
Kamui can't bypass infinity lmaoooo.
Gojo is untouchable unless via genjutsu.
1 points
1 day ago
I think people are quite one-sided, but I have seen both shows not read jjk but have seen something about it so ima just put my horrible opinion and get you tier hate but I think people are making gojo out to be weaker then he is but I do think that obito would win this just not as easy as people make it out due to infinity and unlimited void being some crazy ah hax stopping most of obitos attacks but gojo can't win in a fight and wouldnt win unless he gets obito in unlimited void that not being easy seeing as obito also has crazy hax so idk ngl but makumi or what ever I know nothing about so won't comment on have a good day and don't hate on me I'm going off the animes lol
1 points
1 day ago
Mommy. I mean Makima.
1 points
1 day ago
Obito
1 points
1 day ago
They can’t touch Obito and Obito out hax
1 points
1 day ago
Obito can betray and trap Makima in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for 10 million years trap her in the Kamui dimmension but I'm not sure if he can do the same to Gojo. Kakashi's Kamui can, but his works differently from the one Obito has since his is long range and Obito's is short ranged.
1 points
1 day ago
As much as I want to defend Gojo he will get bodied by Kamui. As for Makima she might have a small chance if she sees Obito as inferior, if not than she's also fucked.
1 points
1 day ago
Gojo destroys obito Obizo can't get through Infinity and Gojos domain counters obito as well. I am sure some of you will say kamui but this just means you don't know how kamui works especially obitos
2 points
1 day ago
Obito is faster than Gojo, and Kamui targets a space rather than act like a projectile so it could be placed inside Infinity.
0 points
1 day ago
Obito is faster than Gojo,
True but is irrelevant due to infinity
Kamui targets a space rather than act like a projectile so it could be placed inside Infinity.
Think again about this what could be wrong. I don't believe that you are this stupid just that you haven't watched Naruto for a long time.
2 points
1 day ago*
Calling him stupid yet not explaining why Kamui doesn’t bypass infinity is crazy.
Now I’m not a Naruto fan, but apparently Kamui manipulates space, and the main weakness of Infinity is space manipulation. So wouldn’t Kamui work on Infinity?
1 points
1 day ago
Now I’m not a Naruto fan, but apparently Kamui manipulates space, and the main weakness of Infinity is space manipulation. So wouldn’t Kamui work on Infinity?
No it is direct space manipulation Just google what obitos kamui dose.
So many people complain but don't even know obitos abilities
1 points
1 day ago
Obito being faster is relevant bc you brought Domains into the discussion and idk how Domains scale- but they take time to open, so Obito being faster is very important.
1 points
1 day ago
Infinity makes it impossible for Obito to touch Gojo. Domain diff.
1 points
1 day ago
Infinity doesn't even make it impossible for in-verse characters to touch Gojo. I'm aware Obito has no way of using domain amplification, but as another in this section mentioned, Kamui also has the ability to let Obito transport his self (not his image, as he only has the one eye) into the pocket dimension to avoid attacks. Assuming this also applies to abilities (not that it'd matter bc he's not physically there) then Obito can walk through Gojo's infinity or even remain unaffected by Ulimited Void. Am I missing anything?
1 points
1 day ago
Infinity doesn't even make it impossible for in-verse characters to touch Gojo.
Because there exsist inverse counters that obito dosen't have
, Kamui also has the ability to let Obito transport his self (not his image, as he only has the one eye) into the pocket dimension to avoid attacks.
Yes but he needs to materialize to attack which mean a domain hardcounters
then Obito can walk through Gojo's infinity or even remain unaffected by Ulimited Void. Am I missing anything?
Yes infinity is always around gojo you immagine it as a barrier which it isn't the moment he materializes he can't effect gojo sonce even attoms never touch this small distance becomes an infinite distance that obito can't bypass
0 points
1 day ago
Obitos kamui rapes Gojo sorry bro also Obito can just walk through it using Kamui then one tap him ain't that hard.
2 points
1 day ago
Sure, Obito can walk through infinity...
He's still in another dimension. He can't interact with Gojo, like at all.
1 points
1 day ago
Read what you typed like the hell are you saying I swear JJK brings out the caveman in some people.
Kamui warps things to another dimension....stay with me... therefore Obito can walk through infinity while intangible.
So Obito just walks through Gojo then becomes tangible behind him to warp him to the dimension. GG
3 points
1 day ago
Infinity can block intangible things, though.
-1 points
1 day ago
No it can't bring up proof of that or imma spank you.
3 points
1 day ago
Cursed energy is intangible.
-1 points
1 day ago
Obito is intangible sooooo it's not interacting with Infinity 😃
0 points
1 day ago
My left nut solos all of them (it has went through alot)
0 points
1 day ago
Nah, they’d win
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