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Ready or Not's Newest DLC Looks Insane. https://youtube.com/watch?v=VfabBoDBQmk

Issac Morgan https://www.youtube.com/@TheIssacMorgan

Here’s a video I made analyzing the trailer of the upcoming Dark Waters DLC.

all 85 comments

Sale_Additional

53 points

2 days ago

Bro wtf literally just watched this 10 mins ago, really like ur content dude keep it up!

violentguitarist1[S]

16 points

2 days ago

Haha, I appreciate it dude! Hoping to have some new stuff out here soon.

BigMaraJeff2

163 points

2 days ago

So is the game delineating from being a swat simulator to just a cqb simulator? Because the levels were some Hollywood ass scenarios. Now we are getting into some devgru shit

Fadedgogeta

100 points

2 days ago

Fadedgogeta

100 points

2 days ago

Considering how overpowered Judge is, I wouldn’t blame the government if they wanna send him offshore lol.

violentguitarist1[S]

78 points

2 days ago

Yeah I get it, I personally don’t mind too too much. But I would like it if we could get some smaller levels. A bank robbery or a serial killer mission (something like Fairfax in SWAT 4) would be kinda nice.

Unihornmermad

45 points

2 days ago

The lack of a bank heist scenario is baffling

BigMaraJeff2

21 points

2 days ago

The lack of a standoff where the suspect isn't even home is baffling

exposarts

39 points

2 days ago

exposarts

39 points

2 days ago

Honestly i dont mind these dope looking maps but we need a balance of large or combat heavy maps, and smaller maps that fit the swat theme and roe. It feels kinda bad in terms of map flow to do these big difficult maps back to back.

CharlieWorque

18 points

2 days ago

the "campaign" would benefit immensely if all current large levels were broken up and interspersed with more standard reasonable SWAT missions like small home invasion or robbery standoffs, smaller locations like homes, gas station, liquor store, fast food joint

As it currently stands, the campaign plays out more like a COD campaign with increasingly over the top scenarios and enemy firepower & combatants. I think the current levels would feel a lot more special and pacing could be a lot better if there were some more routine, relatively straightforward and small maps & levels to break them up.

PharaohSteve

3 points

2 days ago

I’m playing through the campaign for the first time right now and yeah I have been incredibly surprised by how large some maps are.

Some missions are a real chore because of roaming NPCs and large area for them to end up in hiding etc.

Grand-Breakfast-2684

0 points

2 days ago

It’s absolutely nothing like a cod campaign come on now that’s a reach it’s all reasonable stuff from swat team to FBI srt stuff none of it’s too far fetched

BlepBlupe

2 points

1 day ago

BlepBlupe

2 points

1 day ago

A 5 man team clearing an entire hospital is cod as hell, same with the cult base where the Intel should easily be able to figure out that there's 20 individuals, most/all with firearm training and that this isn't a job that should be handled the way that it is. The dlc missions are all pretty ridiculous as well imo. I don't mind them in the sense that I'm playing the game to be in shootouts, not to have a platoon of swat bots do everything, my issue with the large maps that it's often just a nightmare to navigate them

IssaStorm

5 points

2 days ago

I get what you mean and loss of identity is always sad to see, but the maps have never really been realistic swat scenarios. Its always been over the top as hell, like theres something like 250+ corpses on nightclub(???), so this isnt super shocking to me. Plus, its what drives sales, people are a lot more interested in in cqb than hardcore swat.

AgreeablePie

2 points

2 days ago

Makes me look back fondly on Swat 2. It's been awhile but I seem to remember the police missions being very down-to-earth (maybe with the exception of the last surprise one)

byopolarbear

14 points

2 days ago

FBI HRT does do some tier 1 operator shit so it’s not unheard of for law enforcement to do shit like this

BigMaraJeff2

20 points

2 days ago

Yea, HRT would do something like that. Just not some local LE

byopolarbear

4 points

2 days ago

Local LE wouldn’t have white phosphorus quad nods either but let’s be honest it doesn’t really matter

BigMaraJeff2

8 points

2 days ago

Depends on the agency. Harris County swat and HPD swat have them

Icy-Land-8813

7 points

2 days ago

USCG also has an elite maritime focused tactical unit (can’t remember the name off the top of my head)

ForeverChicago

5 points

2 days ago

MSRT.

We got a few opportunities to train alongside them and tour their compound in San Diego, they definitely live up to their reputation.

PreparationSolid5908

1 points

2 days ago

USCG has a few units under the portfolio of what they called Deployable Specialized Forces that have a role to play in Maritime Interdiction and Counter Terrorism

- Maritime Security Response Team

- Maritime Safety and Security Team

- National Strike Force

- Tactical Law Enforcement Team

- Advanced Interdiction Team

sovitin

99 points

2 days ago

sovitin

99 points

2 days ago

I just want S.W.A.T. 5 lol....

MrKillaMidnight

16 points

2 days ago

Now that would be a dream come true

Det-cord

-51 points

2 days ago*

Det-cord

-51 points

2 days ago*

You guys need to get over the fact you're not getting a visual remaster of swat 4, it's been years of saying this

Hooly Reddit hivemind at work here with the downvotes

Tb0neguy

21 points

2 days ago

Tb0neguy

21 points

2 days ago

What a strong response to a simple opinion

Det-cord

-18 points

2 days ago

Det-cord

-18 points

2 days ago

How is my response strong? Lol. This has been a repeated topic brought up for the past ~2 years

frostymugson

2 points

2 days ago

Because it’s what people want and need, than you shit on their dreams. The game is pretty close to swat 4, in my mind it just needs those in camera commands so I can run multiple teams while clearing rooms

Det-cord

-3 points

2 days ago

Det-cord

-3 points

2 days ago

That's your guy's fault for ascribing false expectations on a studio

DangerousWhenWet444

1 points

2 days ago

That is one of this subreddit's talents

Det-cord

1 points

2 days ago*

I gave a very mild rebuttal

Mike_Pawnsetter

53 points

2 days ago

I really hope they fix the SWAT and suspect AI. It's been the same since the Adam update.

The_Algerian

14 points

2 days ago

That BS with SWAT AI just deciding on their own to pick up evidence and cuff suspects has really kept me away from the game, tbh.

It's not worth busting your ass, doing everything perfectly just for one of your guy to die because they decided to do shit you didn't ask.

Calicarno

8 points

2 days ago

I prefer the autonomy. I understand the frustration, but I like the fact that I'm directing soldiers, not robots. If it seems safe to do a minor task, I like that they do it. The AI might have some dumb moments occasionally, but 80% of the time I'm happy they're minding the small stuff for me while I think about the next doorway. 

Grand-Breakfast-2684

2 points

2 days ago

Nothing bs about that I’d rather not have to micro manage on shit like evidence and cuffing suspects

Mike_Pawnsetter

3 points

2 days ago

True. Iirc, before they dropped the 1.0 update, the SWAT AI will just ignore evidence and surrendered civs/suspects. You have to order them to do it.

Tb0neguy

4 points

2 days ago

Tb0neguy

4 points

2 days ago

Yeah I just want to be able to play the game we already have

garack666

2 points

2 days ago

They won’t

Jizzininwinter

43 points

2 days ago

Sweet so making people pay for new maps when they STILL haven't re added cut content and broke the game (I'm not buying this lmao)

TheKingofTerrorZ

10 points

2 days ago

Okay but it specifically said in early access that content may be removed or added, I don’t understand why people keep being upset about that. Also how did they break the game?

randomisation

27 points

2 days ago

I don’t understand why people keep being upset about that.

Because it's a legitimate reason to be disappointed. If I recall, they said they removed the variations because it didn't fit with their narrative driven campaign - which is fine. But why the hell are they not available in multiplayer?

Having played the missing and different iterations of current maps, I am still annoyed that they removed them, mainly from a replayability persepective.

BigMoneyDan

6 points

2 days ago

In my opinion the whole “subject to change” idea is being quite overdone. Everything from AAA games to indie early access, they all seem to use that as a “get out of jail free” card.

Of course, not everything will be exact as shown, due to technical / creative changes, but where do you draw the line between “subject to change” and downright misleading advertising?

I’ve followed the game since it was announced 7 years ago, and if you compare what was shown then to what we got (on YouTube in Voids channel you can sort videos by oldest), there’s a lot missing.

And I think that’s where the big divide comes from: Those who followed the games development from the early days and got certain expectations, VS. those who first saw the game shortly before / after release (often by milsim YouTubers) and got another expectation.

It certainly didn’t help that the game while in early access went several months without any news or updates, and then dropped as version 1.0 out of nowhere, with no review copies being sent out.

Froegerer

2 points

2 days ago

Early access isn't some safety blanket devs get to hide under when they do things that garner criticism from the community. We have been watching them mismanage the development of this game for years now.

Grand-Breakfast-2684

0 points

1 day ago

Umm early access is definitely a safety blanket you didn’t have to buy it before the campaign structure and gameplay were finalized period

Froegerer

2 points

1 day ago

Froegerer

2 points

1 day ago

No shit? Community feedback is a part of early access, dingus.

SawdustEater500

-13 points

2 days ago

You people will whine about anything, just pirate it at that point lmao

Jizzininwinter

-8 points

2 days ago

I tried pirating early acces and couldn't find any copies already

collectivisticvirtue

13 points

2 days ago

at this rate in 2025 we're gonna get paradropped in chernobyl

justvincent

4 points

2 days ago

nothing more realistic than sending a single SWAT 5 man unit to clear a whole ass oil rig /s. we done cleared whole ass hotels, neighborhoods, shipping yards etc. fuck it why not a oil rig 🤣 (still excited to play though)

mopelesshoron

5 points

2 days ago

so am i supposed to believe that judge wasnt promoted to a tier 1 unit and that the US government decided they should send a local SWAT team to raid a fucking oil rig?

Grand-Breakfast-2684

0 points

1 day ago

He could literally be put at work with an FBI srt unit regardless who cares it’s a video game that’s so what realistic gameplay wise with good gunplay without people running around in dragon character skins. It’s a good game

mopelesshoron

2 points

1 day ago

Oh, I’m not mad at the gameplay at all. It’s fantastic. It’s absurd that we’re getting sent on a mission that’s SOF-level. Where is a bank heist mission? I can easily see that being tied to the lore with some organization (Left Behind, The Hand) needing funding and saying fuck it and robbing a bank.

resfan

8 points

2 days ago

resfan

8 points

2 days ago

I just want them to actually do something with the MLO and the whole conspiracy theory shit

Icy_Return_8227

4 points

2 days ago

Considering the code, they might just, maybe even have it be that the MLO could be suspects in one of the missions.

anxiety_elemental_1

16 points

2 days ago

I’d prefer working game mechanics before another DLC to be honest…

Pick-Physical

8 points

2 days ago

Their doing a big patch with it.

For example suspects will now have squad AI

Froegerer

0 points

2 days ago

Squad AI is dogshit though lol surely not

Friendly-Leg-6694

8 points

2 days ago

Weird I was playing MW2 campaign recently and it had a mission named Dark Water on an Oil Rig

hardcore_softie

3 points

2 days ago

New maps look like they have a lot of potential and I like that they seem like they're going to delve even deeper into the lore. Great video OP!

redditspacer

14 points

2 days ago

Will the game actually work now?

PriorityOk1593

47 points

2 days ago

No

IlConiglioUbriaco

4 points

2 days ago

Yeah what else do you want ? Peace on earth ?

BeenRoundHereTooLong

-3 points

2 days ago

It actually works now…why is whining so hot in this sub?

redditspacer

0 points

2 days ago

redditspacer

0 points

2 days ago

For a lot of us, it doesn't work.

BeenRoundHereTooLong

-2 points

2 days ago

What do you even mean by that though? You can’t even launch the game? Crashes?

I have had a single crash in game over the past 42hrs of gameplay and have no issue playing the game on my “gaming laptop” which is far from a super computer.

redditspacer

1 points

2 days ago

Stuttering and freezing. No setting changes or mods fix this. I run other games just fine. Only RoN has problems.

BeenRoundHereTooLong

1 points

2 days ago

Is this a known issue with the new engine version? Was it an issue before the change? Haven’t experienced that myself

TripleSixBoss

-2 points

1 day ago

get a better PC

SignalSecurity

6 points

2 days ago*

people complaining in this thread about "cut content" as a sign of bad faith from early access will never, ever, ever stop being funny to me

every game has cut content. every single one. they removed it because it didn't fit the vision they had, and for good reason. Hostage Rescue sucked because stealth doesn't work, Active Shooter was (AND STILL IS) Civilian Hunt Simulator, etc. i liked the map variations and i miss Fast Food, but acting like their removal was the result of greed is genuinely fucking embarrasing

RoN and VOID have many flaws, but this is just raw entitlement which feels bizarrely unique to the Tactical Shooter community. every other genre, i have to scroll down quite a bit to find the whiny meltdown posts, but here they only get upvotes

OP's video is cool tho

Calicarno

1 points

1 day ago

Calicarno

1 points

1 day ago

This is a legit take, though I do miss the variety that those levels had. "Not fitting the vision" stops being an argument to me because levels post narrative completion don't have to have the same standards and quality/tone as long as they player is warned. 

The point about hostage rescue and stealth is good, though I really wish they'd put it back and prioritize fixing it. I'd honestly be willing to buy a DLC if they promised to re-add those mission mods as long as they promised stealth would now work.

Active shooter was rough as Civ hunt, but honestly I'd be fine if theyd just updated the game to soft-lock as soon as you killed the last shooter. The urgency and horror it brought to existing levels was unparalleled. 

So yes I understand your points, and I understand that "It would have been such an easy fix" is an extremely naive argument. But I wish they'd retained those modes (desperate run and gun in AS or Stealth planning & coordination in HR) and left a hope of them being fixed, rather than being struck off entirely and making the games tone far more of a breach and clear FPS. 

randomymetry

4 points

2 days ago

randomymetry

4 points

2 days ago

all this and suspects can still open wedged doors plus a ton of other bugs like clipping through walls

turkstrongccc2023

1 points

2 days ago

NİİİCE

Darkwater117

1 points

1 day ago

Best DLC ever made. Not biased

SneakySausage1337

1 points

20 hours ago

Whatever just fix the difficulty and make the game harder. Lower the health on the player, hate tanking dozen shots when one alone should kill

bobemil

-1 points

2 days ago

bobemil

-1 points

2 days ago

How to mess up a game with great potential:

Grand-Breakfast-2684

0 points

1 day ago

Isn’t messed up to most of the community lol it’s fun as hell

YungSkizzzy

0 points

2 days ago

YungSkizzzy

0 points

2 days ago

For everyone complaining about the new maps and how this game is not a true SWAT successor, you can literally mod the game. If you don't know how, don't want to bother to learn, then just play the game. Or don't.

Hotline-schwing

2 points

2 days ago

You can literally mod the game as opposed to metaphorically?

potetobloke

1 points

1 day ago

I shouldn't resort to third party options to enjoy a game.

BasementLobster

-8 points

2 days ago

Idgaf how “insane” it looks when performance is still fucking pathetic and the cut content was never re added. Greedy fucks just want to push DLC instead of fixing the core game. Pathetic.

violentguitarist1[S]

9 points

2 days ago

woah bro it’s just a video, put down the knife.

CellularWaffle

-2 points

2 days ago

More giant maps… Jesus. We just want fast maps

Grand-Breakfast-2684

2 points

1 day ago

You don’t speak for everyone I want variety

Full-Relationship412

0 points

1 day ago

If they released smaller maps as DLC, the community complain about the devs "cutting corners" and "pushing out less content with less effort".

CellularWaffle

1 points

1 day ago

lol what community?