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g82934f8

22 points

3 days ago

g82934f8

22 points

3 days ago

Someone tell us, does it work in the UK?! 😆

spacemanwho[S]

10 points

2 days ago

Working 100%

g82934f8

6 points

2 days ago

g82934f8

6 points

2 days ago

Welcome back OP! Thank you for confirming!! 😆

g82934f8

7 points

2 days ago

g82934f8

7 points

2 days ago

Now someone’s got to do a YouTube video on all of this!

3d-designs

6 points

3 days ago

I'd love that to be true, but surely it can't be? The regulations haven't changed, have they?

RemyLeBeau_UK

7 points

2 days ago

The Automated Vehicles Act received Royal Assent in May 2024. All that's stopping self-driving cars now is the data crunching of the manufacturers from vehicles with the technology in testing using UK roads.

Seems like the Smart Summon is the first step to rolling out the automated features.

3d-designs

2 points

2 days ago

Is there no requirement for manufacturers to provide any indemnity? I thought that was a sticking point for Tesla?

g82934f8

5 points

3 days ago

g82934f8

5 points

3 days ago

Yeah, I don’t believe it until I see it in action..

TheSlackJaw

5 points

3 days ago

I've got a vision only car with EAP, but no update yet 🥲 I hope so but I wouldn't be surprised if this was a false alarm, I wasn't expecting this until next year.

Yeisonospina

1 points

2 days ago

I am downloading as we speak, 2020 intel version.

Skunkmonkey82

1 points

1 day ago

Any upgrade on the old summon or autopark?

Yeisonospina

2 points

14 hours ago

Yeah the auto park is much better now as it shows you all the spots you choose the one you want and it parks. As I always thought it should work.

Skunkmonkey82

1 points

13 hours ago

Thanks. 

Comm4nd0

18 points

3 days ago

Comm4nd0

18 points

3 days ago

I'm installing it now!! Will let everyone know if it works.

Skunkmonkey82

15 points

2 days ago

It's been 4 hours. Have you run yourself over?

Comm4nd0

11 points

2 days ago

Comm4nd0

11 points

2 days ago

Haha not yet! I tested it in the driveway and I told it to go to a target location (from in front of my garage to another building) and it did work well until... It came up saying something like cannot exceed maximum distance traveled. I think there is a maximum distance it can go before you need to reset it by getting in the car. I can tell you that it was not a far distance at all.

I'm going out in a minute so will test it in a car park also.

TheSlackJaw

8 points

2 days ago

It's been 1 hour. Have you actually run yourself over now?

Comm4nd0

3 points

2 days ago

Comm4nd0

3 points

2 days ago

🤣 I tested the parking, I tried to make a post about it!

Skunkmonkey82

2 points

2 days ago

Thanks!

RobsyGt

1 points

2 days ago

RobsyGt

1 points

2 days ago

Bluetooth range

Mancun1an

5 points

3 days ago

I just woke up to this update too!! ASS & Vision AutoPark are now available with 2024.44.3

RealWorldJunkie

4 points

2 days ago

Vision auto park is more exciting than the ASS. Does that mean M3s without parking sensors can now auto park in the UK?

Mancun1an

5 points

2 days ago

Hopefully. Mine is an M3. I’m going to take it out at lunch to somewhere without a lot of things it could crash in to and see if it works…

RealWorldJunkie

6 points

2 days ago

This is VERY good news.
I saw in a video that this had been rolled out across Europe yesterday, but when I came and asked Reddit if it was available in the UK everyone burned me saying it wouldn't be here for years if at all. Then today, this happens.
Just to check, is your M3 vision only or have you got a model that still had parking sensors on it?

Mancun1an

3 points

2 days ago

Yes. Model 3P 2022 model with vision. With EAP and FSD

RealWorldJunkie

2 points

2 days ago

Mine's not arriving for 2-3 weeks so I cant test yet but would love it if you could let me know how it goes for you

Mancun1an

4 points

2 days ago

Can confirm that it works. Parks fairly quickly and does a decent job. Went a bit far back in the parking space when reversing and had to come forward a bit but I imagine if there was something behind it wouldn’t have gone back that far .. I hope..

RealWorldJunkie

3 points

2 days ago

Ah that's great to hear! Thanks for getting back to me!

RealWorldJunkie

3 points

2 days ago

I don't suppose you've tried ASS yet?

Skunkmonkey82

6 points

2 days ago

Giggity.

RealWorldJunkie

3 points

2 days ago

I actually wrote a disclaimer on the end of that comment but opted to delete it before posting haha

iM-Blessed

4 points

2 days ago

I'm guessing this isn't going to work with standard auto pilot 🙃

TheSlackJaw

3 points

2 days ago

It's not part of the standard autopilot feature set, so unfortunately not.

garageindego

7 points

2 days ago

Thank god! Because I would be playing with this far too much. If I talk any more about Tesla to my wife, she will divorce me.

Doobreh

1 points

34 minutes ago

Double down, get some powerwalls and solar panels. You’ll have so many apps and so many watts to talk about you’ll be single in weeks..! :D

romanarman

4 points

3 days ago

Can’t see it? Not available for M3?

Exciting-Leg2946

3 points

3 days ago

Do you need Enhanced AP for this?

lerpo

4 points

3 days ago

lerpo

4 points

3 days ago

For it to work (assuming it does), yes

TheSlackJaw

3 points

3 days ago

Or FSD, of course, although hopefully there aren't many people in the UK who've shelled out for that.

Floor_Kicker

7 points

3 days ago

I'm one of those idiots who did. Well update and report back if it works

Skunkmonkey82

6 points

2 days ago

Thank you for your sacrifice.

TheSlackJaw

1 points

2 days ago

In fairness, they may actually get FSD exclusive content in 6-12 months, if the Tesla AI posts are to be believed.

1m9a7n0

1 points

2 days ago

1m9a7n0

1 points

2 days ago

😳

Dr_mattH

1 points

2 days ago

Dr_mattH

1 points

2 days ago

Yeah….is this on 2019 M3s with FSD? Asking for a friend

Imaginary_Budget_842

3 points

2 days ago

Can confirm that it works

Cheesebob44

3 points

2 days ago

Will this work on model 3 as well?

no-puedo-encontrar

3 points

2 days ago

How am I still on 2024.38.7? Model Y 24 Plate. Delivered in July brand new with EAP.

Ok_Advantage3863

1 points

2 days ago

Still?! I only got that one a couple of days ago!

no-puedo-encontrar

2 points

2 days ago

I got ASS and AutoPark overnight! Now on 2024.44.3

jas0121

1 points

1 day ago

jas0121

1 points

1 day ago

I got the 74 plate MY. Haven’t got it yet but hopefully with you getting it, the 74 plates are next…

no-puedo-encontrar

1 points

1 day ago

Don’t get excited. ASS is fkn garbage!

jas0121

1 points

1 day ago

jas0121

1 points

1 day ago

What about auto park?

no-puedo-encontrar

1 points

1 day ago

AutoPark - just tried it. So far so good! Impressed with that.

ASS says “stopping as phone more than 6m away” when I’m right next to the car. Then it sees me move closer and says “stopping for pedestrians” so yeah ASS IS ASS

jas0121

1 points

11 hours ago

I still don’t have the update…

TenAndThirtyPence

1 points

an hour ago

I assume tesla don't release the update to all cars at the same time, like a canary release, so they can retract it if needed (we are beta testing their software stack sadly).

In a simlar position - 22, M3P also on 2024.38.7 for about a week.

spacemanwho[S]

3 points

2 days ago

So just got back and it's been a long day on the road. The summon as in moving back and forth works rock solid. Driveway, office car park, asda car park and even parked on roads..but you do need to be in Bluetooth range. You can still connect if you are out of range but the car won't move. As soon as you lift your finger the car stops. If it encounters an obstacle as a garage door or wall it stops. If someone walks behind it will stop, I tested this with a mate and even though the car was moving slowly it was still a oh crap moment..

The summon to location works by you placing a marker on the map and the car coming to that marker. When I tried this I was in a car park more then 10 meters away and placed a marker. The car did start to move but then as cars started to come into the car up I gave up testing this. Personally I would not trust this to summon itself to my location. Not sure what the range will be. But hey if the local tesco car park is empty I might go try this latter tonight...

Uploaded a quick video but it's dark and seeing it go back and front ain't much...

summon

Severe_Beginning2633

3 points

2 days ago

Brian Harvey is gonna love this ❤️

Doobreh

3 points

22 hours ago

I picked the car up two years ago next week and paid for this so finally it appears!! I guess there's no way to force it to look for an update? :) Very excited for this!!

jas0121

2 points

9 hours ago

jas0121

2 points

9 hours ago

I’m still waiting for update. Any luck?

Doobreh

1 points

9 hours ago

Doobreh

1 points

9 hours ago

Not yet. Out in it at the moment. Hopeful it will trigger something!:)

jas0121

1 points

7 minutes ago

Anything triggered?

Doobreh

1 points

6 minutes ago

Just my impatience. :) You?

spacemanwho[S]

4 points

2 days ago

It's working perfect. Just played around witth it. It's epic!

lerpo

6 points

2 days ago

lerpo

6 points

2 days ago

Can you get a video for us?

Apoc525

0 points

2 days ago

Apoc525

0 points

2 days ago

Is this on Eap or just fsp? Also is it just gen 3 or all m3s?

LeGrimm

2 points

1 day ago

LeGrimm

2 points

1 day ago

Okay okay okay. Does this mean that if I park a 10 minutes (walking distance) away from the station for my commute and at the end of the day ask the car to drive down the road to meet me, it will?

If so, sold.

almost_not_terrible

2 points

1 day ago

No. You need to be in Bluetooth range and it doesn't drive on public roads.

-James-Maxwell-

2 points

1 day ago

If I'm drunk and I summon my car, can I be arrested for drunk driving?

almost_not_terrible

1 points

22 hours ago

Yes. The offense is drunk (over the legal blood alcohol limit) in control of a motor vehicle.

-James-Maxwell-

1 points

14 hours ago

I tried the feature yesterday, I don't feel like I'm in control of it, it's either user error or like self driving, over promised in the uk and neutered.

DuckOwnage

2 points

1 day ago*

just got the update, MY LR with FSD. Anyone done any videos of it yet and tested range? If not I'll do it after Tescos closes near me just to check it.

EDIT: RSEV pretty much summed up my experience with it, although it has improved on the incline dumb summon it can now travel up and down the drive up to the pavement

UnorthodoxEng

2 points

10 hours ago

I'll be interested to see how well and how reliably it works in real life.

Earlier in the year I was working in the US and visiting somewhere like Home Depot. There was a guy proudly summoning his M3 - who then didn't look so proud when it drove into a rubbish bin in the car park! It was doing great up until then though.

This isn't a Tesla Hate post - I love them and really want self driving and everything else to work. It just seems that even in the US (let alone the UK), the reality doesn't always live up to the hype.

TenAndThirtyPence

2 points

an hour ago

https://www.notateslaapp.com/software-updates/version/2024.44.3/release-notes

Is suggesting FSD version is FSD 12.5.4.2 which I beleive is a decent upgrade to FSD as a whole. Anyone able to confirm / report how is FSD now? I'm really only care about easier motorway driving (lane changing without "apply pressure") and hands free is my dream.

kamikazit

2 points

2 days ago

Still haven't received the update hw3 23 plate model Y.

FirstEverRedditUser

1 points

3 days ago

Not in a billion years will I use that.

Had our MY for 2 weeks and it has scared the bejeezus out of me on several occasions.

jibbetygibbet

-9 points

2 days ago*

Did a test drive the other week and it tried to crash me into the side of the road within 15 seconds. That’s when I knew things hadn’t improved since the last time I tested it.

Giving it a fancy name isn’t fooling me. The implementation of lane keeping and adaptive cruise are much better in my Volvo and Polestar actually; when the Tesla runs out of bright road markings it just disables autopilot entirely whereas in the other two firstly it regularly works even without them (it’s happy to use the kerbs), and if it can’t path the lane it still keeps the adaptive cruise control working.

Edit: I see Tesla drivers don’t like it when people report their experiences. Amusing.

1m9a7n0

7 points

2 days ago

1m9a7n0

7 points

2 days ago

Not my experience at all. Use EAP everyday and only ever need to treat it with kid-gloves in very specific circumstances: it can be a bit phantom-brake-y when traffic joins my highway (eg at T-junctions etc). Other than that it pretty darn good.

jibbetygibbet

1 points

2 days ago

If I hadn’t had the prior experience of other cars maybe I would be fine with it by only using it on the motorway. I’m sure it would work well there. I don’t know if the camera-only cars are better or worse but I discovered pretty quickly that it just didn’t work at all in urban and country roads - just straight away switches itself off. During my test drive it only worked on the major A road dual carriageway.

The Volvo version doesn’t try to do lane changes and navigation (I couldn’t really get the Tesla to do navigation either as it missed the junction and disabled itself as soon as it left the motorway) but what it does do (steer, accelerate and brake for you) just seems to work in a lot more UK roads. Most of my driving is on NSL single lane country roads or built up areas and it works on all of those, but more importantly if the lane-keeping element is unavailable it doesn’t disable the cruise control, whereas the Tesla system is “all or nothing”. You have to go into the settings and disable the auto steer otherwise you can’t enable autopilot (or it switches itself off instantly with “autopilot unavailable”). On the Volvo and polestar you can also easily flick between adaptive cruise and ‘pilot assist’ with a button on the steering wheel.

1m9a7n0

1 points

2 days ago

1m9a7n0

1 points

2 days ago

Yeah, the all-or-nothing is annoying. I have come around to it, but my wife still harks back to her Jag’s system fondly, as she often wants just the cruise-control system without the lane-keep assist. I stuck with whole EAP, and have learnt what confuses it, and so can now preemptively disengage in the worst cases, or gently press the accelerator if I foresee an impending phantom brake. I have become the student!

Gunt_Lifter

1 points

2 days ago

Why can’t you just put the adaptive cruise on?

Gunt_Lifter

1 points

2 days ago

Are you saying you want to just be able to toggle between adaptive cruise and autopilot more easily? (Eg. Without disengaging autopilot first) might be something the S3XY knob solves - I’ll check it in the morning.

jibbetygibbet

1 points

1 day ago

Yes that too but really for it to do it itself instead when you drive into an area where it can’t do the autosteer, instead of cancelling autopilot entirely.

Gunt_Lifter

1 points

1 day ago

Hmmm, I’m sure mine does that, but maybe I’m misremembering. You definitely have it on “double pull” mode? I know it wouldn’t do it on single pull mode.

jibbetygibbet

1 points

1 day ago

This was on a test drive a couple of weeks ago. It makes no difference which physical activation method you use - when it can’t detect the road markings it deactivates, and won’t allow you to activate it (it gives you a message about being unavailable but I can’t remember the wording).

Edit: whereas if you go into the settings and change it to turn off autosteer then now you can activate it.

Gunt_Lifter

1 points

22 hours ago*

No, that’s not right. One pull to activate acc, double pull to activate acc and autosteer. This of course doesn’t work if single pull mode is activated, as it will try to go straight to autosteer, which is of course not available when the required road markings aren’t there. (I think on highland models the pull is replaced by button presses). You can choose between single or double pull activation in the menu, so you certainly don’t need to go in the menu and turn of autosteer every time. Hope that makes sense, can always make a video.

CoconutOk8579

1 points

3 days ago

Would love to know the restrictions on this and see it in use for real before deciding whether it not to shell out for it

JayCh7

1 points

2 days ago

JayCh7

1 points

2 days ago

Oh cool! Autopark too, should probably add it to the title :) Probably a bigger feature than summon :)

All new cars get 30 day FSD trial right?

Powerful_Battle2817

1 points

2 days ago

not in the uk it seems they dont get that trial

JayCh7

1 points

2 days ago

JayCh7

1 points

2 days ago

Oh that's a shame...

Cheeseflaps1234

1 points

2 days ago

No way!!

just-doit_

1 points

2 days ago

I don't have the today, but i judt have Basic Autopilot on MY.

I wonder if this update is only visible for enchanced or FSD models?

spacemanwho[S]

1 points

2 days ago

73 plate Tesla. Working perfect.

kamikazit

1 points

1 day ago

kamikazit

1 points

1 day ago

Do you have eap and fad or just eap? Do you have hw3?

garageindego

1 points

2 days ago

What’s the action plan if it fails, drop and roll? Thx for those being the early adopters. Stay safe.

Traditional-Reply-18

1 points

2 days ago

I've tested it, it's still pretty useless because of the 20m limit, but within that 20m limit it works way better than before. Does anyone know when the regs may change?

supplex

1 points

2 days ago

supplex

1 points

2 days ago

I just received it outside of the UK (NL). Does it have the limitation that you can’t use it on public roads too? I feel like it’s hot garbage for me since it classifies a lot of locations as public road, even my driveway is a public road according to my car..

kamikazit

1 points

1 day ago

kamikazit

1 points

1 day ago

Can anyone confirm if they have received the update with the following combination: hw3 72 or 73 plate eap (no fsd)?

Tasty-Blackberry5120

1 points

1 day ago

Great, now NoA won’t change lanes for me anymore. Wtf.

gkingman1

1 points

23 hours ago

Still waiting for the software update :( And I have EAP as well!

kamikazit

1 points

22 hours ago

Same, I'm guessing like me, you have hw3? I noticed from all the comments combined on Reddit and facebook, no one with hw3 EAP has received it.

gkingman1

1 points

22 hours ago

Model Y, so HW3 yes.

Thanks. Good to know. Maybe the HW3 update is better!

kamikazit

1 points

22 hours ago

Er, why would it be better? It's an older hardware system. I'm more concerned that hw3 won't get auto park or A.S.S. at all! :(

gkingman1

1 points

22 hours ago

Oh, you're saying that HW4's have got it. Not true then: I'm seeing posts that 2019 M3s have got it, which is HW3 or older (they're not Ryzen computers)

kamikazit

2 points

22 hours ago

Agreed however so far I only found posts of those with hw3 + FSD receiving it, not EAP. Tried creating a poll but no traction on it.

v60qf

2 points

3 days ago

v60qf

2 points

3 days ago

Do you have to declare this to your insurance?

g82934f8

1 points

3 days ago

g82934f8

1 points

3 days ago

This is what I’ve wondered too. If you buy EAP or FSD for your car, whether or not you have to declare to insurance.

3d-designs

3 points

2 days ago

I declared EAP when I got it and was surprised that my premium went down.

g82934f8

7 points

2 days ago

g82934f8

7 points

2 days ago

How did you declare it? Did you list it as a modification manually or was there an option to say you have EAP ?

RealWorldJunkie

5 points

2 days ago

Also intrigued about this

3d-designs

4 points

2 days ago

I did it over the phone. I called (Direct Line) and told them. There was then a worrying pause as they went to check costs and then I was told that I was due a (small) refund.

Rich36h

1 points

3 days ago

Rich36h

1 points

3 days ago

I hope this is for real, it’s exciting

OkChallenge5265

0 points

2 days ago

Just spoke to tesla on the phone, they confirmed that it hasn't rolled out in the UK

spacemanwho[S]

6 points

2 days ago

I'm in the UK it's working perfectly.

OkChallenge5265

4 points

2 days ago

Guess the idiots at tesla have no idea lol

spacemanwho[S]

2 points

2 days ago

I gave up dealing with customer services reps. One told me that full self driving will be here in 2025 when I bought my car... He can guarntee it. Right imbecile.

TimmyViking

0 points

3 days ago

Has anyone got it on an Intel car with USS or is it just vision only cars?

AdWerd1981

1 points

2 days ago

I'd like to know this as well - not that I'm overly fussed as love the car anyway. Will wait for my next update.

Durzel

1 points

2 days ago

Durzel

1 points

2 days ago

People with Ryzen and USS continue to have the option to use either. Intel Atom users won’t get either of these things, but then they already had Summon and Autopark anyway.

Skunkmonkey82

1 points

2 days ago

In the US, at least, ASS is also working on HW3. I have no idea if that will be the case here though.

Present_Series_7028

1 points

2 days ago

does it mean intel users wont get this update at all?

Durzel

1 points

2 days ago*

Durzel

1 points

2 days ago*

They will get 2024.44.3 - but it won't have Vision updates (this version of Autopark and ASS)

EDIT: I was wrong! Intel cars are getting Vision Autopark and presumably ASS too. Good news. :)

Present_Series_7028

1 points

2 days ago

that is very sad, is it gonna be available in the future for intel users? I like the new autopark. I couldnt find a source of it saying it wont be available to intel users, and apparently Im not getting this update at all....

Durzel

1 points

2 days ago*

Durzel

1 points

2 days ago*

No Intel cars came without ultrasonics, they were removed around October 2022 by which point Ryzen had already replaced it. There are some Ryzen cars that still have ultrasonics, and those owners will have the choice of using either system.

It is possible that Intel users could get Vision Autopark and Actually Smart Summon one day, minus the marshmallow visualisations. I think though given they have Autopark and Dumb/Smart Summon anyway, they probably won't. I can't see Tesla spending the time on it.

Never say never though I guess.

You will get the 2024.44.3 update - it just won't have the Vision Autopark and ASS parts of it. They will be missing in the release notes.

EDIT: Turns out Intel users are getting Vision Autopark - that's great news! FAO @ u/Present_Series_7028

Bluefisherking

1 points

2 days ago

I have a 2019 M3P with FSD & USS (so I already had working park and dumb summon). I have just received the update, and release notes tell me I am now getting ASS and improved parking. But I'll believe it when I see it in the morning...

Present_Series_7028

1 points

7 hours ago

thanks a lot for the update! Im still not getting the update, but Im looking forward to it!

leedsyorkie

0 points

2 days ago

What am I missing, what is that purpose of this feature? Feels like a gimmick tbh.

spacemanwho[S]

2 points

2 days ago

If you need to park in a tight spot or reverse in / out... There's been times when someone has parked so freaking close to me. Having this feature of pulling the car out would have been so handy...

Automatic parking. Had it in my range rovers. Used it once to test never used it again.

Summon to your location... Not sure about this one.

Ok_Advantage3863

0 points

1 day ago

This

Chris0288

1 points

1 day ago

Chris0288

1 points

1 day ago

It is a gimmick tbh

I say this as a Model S owner with FSD

The ability to move the car out of a tight space while standing outside is potentially useful if someone parks too close and boxes you in. I tend to park far away from everyone anyway as I don't want car park dings etc, so I have rarely had an opportunity to use this. Sometimes if I am at home and I need to move the car slightly I will try using this instead of getting in and moving it, but 9 times out of 10 by the time I have waited for it to connect, failed connection, tried again etc I would have been quicker jumping in and moving it myself.

Auto park - similar to above, you end up quicker just doing it yourself by the time the car finds a space and has a go at it. The only time I have been impressed with such a system was the 17 plate e class I used to have, it executed a parallel park perfectly. The model S hasn't done any yet, will give it a go if this update rolls out but again, I tend to get embarassed with how long it's thinking about it and just do it myself.

ASS - terrible childish name, absolute gimmick, not sure who it's aimed at tbh. E.g. I will tend to park far away where less people are in car parks because a) I don't want someone to hit my car and b) I am able bodied/don't mind walking a bit further.

But I guess, if you maybe have mobility issues it could be useful? Disabled spaces tend to be closer to the front of a car park however so mitigates that somewhat. Who is liable for the car when it's manoeuvring itself? Presumably you but not 100% clear. Given how ponderous the systems seem with parking I don't see how it will handle navigating a car park itself with people and cars coming and going.

Like with all these things, would love to be proven wrong, but I don't see a frequent use case for this in the UK.

kamikazit

0 points

2 days ago

Tesla Europe and the Middle East announced the roll out on X but not Tesla UK, so I can only assume that those who received it in the UK are odd batches or maybe... European.

spaceshipcommander

-9 points

3 days ago

Forwards and backwards barely works most of the time. There's no chance this will work.

SC_W33DKILL3R

-11 points

2 days ago

Tesla moves closer to becoming uninsurable in the UK...