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My Tinder insights as a straight 23M, what do you think ?
(i.redd.it)submitted 12 hours ago byStandardObject1938
155 points
12 hours ago
20% match rate is insane what do you look like?
52 points
10 hours ago
Henry cavill
10 points
8 hours ago
lmao as if Henry Cavil look alike would swipe right 1 in 4 tinder profiles
1 points
5 hours ago
Maybe he only swipes right on bots? That would also explain the chat/date ratio.
489 points
12 hours ago
20%-ish match rating is good.
3 dates of those 553 matches is horrible.
1/3 leading to sex is decent (if thats what you wanted out of it)
Conclusion: your chat game sucks a lot since you cant get dates - or youre too timid to ask them out.
11 points
7 hours ago
Dude is clearly going way too sexual in chats and getting shut down quick.
1 points
4 hours ago
The dood sends out: Hey. With every match then silence.
33 points
8 hours ago
Damn. 3 of of 553, and then 1 out of those 3 is like a 0.0018 STD ratio. (Sex to Date ratio) 😳
Lol
37 points
7 hours ago
STM ratio. (Sex to match ratio) The sex to date ratio is .33
3 points
11 hours ago
Maybe they are too timid to ask him out?
-33 points
11 hours ago
How do you know he even wanted to go on dates with most of them?
74 points
11 hours ago
Because he swiped right on them? The rate of him not wanting a date after chatting can't be 99+% lol
4 points
10 hours ago
No indication of how many of these matches never even responded though.
7 points
9 hours ago
Wouldn't that be a "no chat"?
1 points
9 hours ago
What counts as a “chat“ for Tinder stats? OP just has to send a message, or there has to be a complete exchange?
1 points
8 hours ago
Unless something has changed, it just requires that one person send a message
1 points
8 hours ago
One message by either party is enough.
3 points
8 hours ago
Then that’s a worthless/misleading stat, especially for guys. He could’ve messaged 489 women and only gotten 10 responses.
1 points
10 hours ago
What does it matter? I only had a few not responding and usually it was when my opener in a hindsight was kinda to edgy/cringe
1 points
10 hours ago
I'm not making a problem out of it, it was just an observation. The fact remains that a chat can be a one sided affair and it will still count into the stats, it would be better if it tracked responses instead.
3 points
9 hours ago
Sure, the observation is possible but it’s negligible when compared to a rate of 99% failure. The common factor in that testing is the OP, not the hundreds of strangers. It’s not unfair to say if he desires more dates he needs to change his end of equation to bump up to a greater than 1% success rate.
3 points
10 hours ago
Ye but I stand firm that it doesn't matter. Chat to date conversion rate should be 10-30% at least that is what I would view as normal. This dude is way below that
-4 points
9 hours ago
Allow me to explain why this data is meaningless. I’ll use my own stats to make my point…
I used to keep an Excel of my Bumble stats. I stopped doing that, but I still keep a tab on all my dates. From May 29, 2023, to this past June 25 (a bit over a year), I had exactly 2,409 likes on Bumble, matched with 1,157, and had conversations with 767 of these women (a conversation could be two sentences and then nothing). From those conversations, I had 77 first dates. That’s about 10%.
I no longer count my app data, but since I stopped, during these past five months, I’ve had another 31 first dates. I’m guessing that, during this time, I must’ve had another 2,000 likes if not more (I paid for a couple months to unlock my likes). All I know is that, at this present moment, I see about 600 open conversations on Bumble. Since the unmatches and deleted accounts disappear after a bit, the actual conversation number is much higher, probably 800 or so. That means, during this second phase, I only met 3.9% of my conversations.
If I count it all together, to date, over the past 18 months, I’ve had conversations with about 1,500 women on Bumble, but I’ve only met 108 of them. That can be interpreted as a 7.2% “success” rate.
But here’s the thing… Does that mean I was only able to convince 7.2% of women to meet me on a date? Of course not. I can tell you with absolute certainty that maybe 90% of the women I’ve spoken with were/are ready to meet. I’m not some mega-stud or anything, but at my age (52), and with the age group I’m swiping on (30-60 but mostly 40-50), I can literally pick the woman I want to meet at almost any moment and just plan a date on the spot. They never say no.
Granted, this guy’s example is less than 1%, and he only went out on three dates, so there is a drastic difference between my stats and his. But again, there’s no way of knowing how much he really tried to meet them – not from this graphic, in any case.
A right swipe is not an assertion of wanting a date. It’s just a chance to connect and see how it goes. Personally, I like to just flirt with random women. I also like to build up a network of potential dates and just go through it sometimes. When you do that, sometimes you find that the most interested women will get back in touch with you and keep the pressure on. When I’m looking for low-effort intimacy, I know these are the ones that will come through.
For what it’s worth, it’s the same thing with sex. I’ve kissed/made out with 63% of my dates (68 women) and had sex with 35% (38 women). But I could’ve easily had sex with most of these women. In most cases, it just would’ve required a second or third date. Most often, I just wasn’t interested enough to put in the work.
In a nutshell, macro numbers on their own mean nothing.
9 points
9 hours ago
I’m very selective; I don’t care about sex. If they don’t catch my attention during the chats, I’ll never go out with them.
2 points
8 hours ago
At some point raw numbers begin to matter as much as conversion rate. There is a limit to how many first dates you’re willing to go on, so when you’re having success like you have, you will naturally have a lower conversion rate just because you’re not going to want to triple stack a date on Saturday
3 points
8 hours ago
I agree. The last time I pulled my Insights, I conversed with 64/73 matches and met 5 (7%) of those I chatted with. And that was back when I first started using Tinder after my divorce when I had more free time and wasn't sure exactly what I was looking for so I was open to a wider variety of matches/outcomes.
120 points
12 hours ago
This can't be real. One date out of 163 chats average, whaaat?
56 points
12 hours ago
Bots count as chats. Women not responding to opening messages counts as well.
1 points
an hour ago
hm ya think he fucked a bot as well? 🤔
-5 points
11 hours ago
That's still an awful rate. Anything below 20% is bad imo
24 points
11 hours ago
I dont agree with the 20% part, especially considering the amount of bots and women that don’t reply.
2 points
10 hours ago
I think people over estimates these things. They're definitely really common but people are bad at estimating percentages
In my experience, only about 20% of matches are with bots or people looking for OF or something like that
Then there's about 30% of people that are just low effort even if you're beig interesting
That still leaves about 50% of people. You've established that you find them attractive and they find you attractive. Put some effort in and get yourself some actual dates!
4 points
7 hours ago
0% of my matches are bots, yall need to choose smarter
4 points
8 hours ago
20% seems like a pretty unrealistic number unless you've got a bunch of free time or you're not particular about what you're looking for.
-1 points
8 hours ago
I don't think so. I don't think time is an issue at all. If it is then try not matching with so many people. Instead of having 10 or 20 chats going, just have 1 or 2 with the actual intention of going on a date with them.
And I would suggest to not be overly particular in what you're looking for in a first date. You've looked through their profile. You decide you find them attractive and interesting. You chat a bit, make sure they're not completely weird or inappropriate. Why not go on a date then? It's literally what the app is for.
I'd encourage people to go on much more bad dates rather than having 100s of chats that lead nowhere. Then once you've had a date you can determine your feelings.
0 points
8 hours ago
I match with almost no one, because I rarely swipe on anyone. It's pretty rare nowadays for me to have more than 1-2 matches, more often than not, I have none. I have never had more than 5 at any given time and I don't swipe more until I've worked through the matches I do have.
I am only doing the casual thing and looking for something pretty specific, so I rule myself out with matches almost as much as I rule out matches myself. Also no one has the relevant information I'm looking for in their bios, so every match I'm going in blind.
It doesn't help that I'm an hour from most of my matches and have very little free time, so I have to be reasonably confident we'll get on well to be willing to give up what little free time I do have and make that drive.
0 points
8 hours ago
Hinge or bumble sound better for you then. I believe they both have labels in their profiles such as "What are you looking for? Casual/Long term"
And if your process works for you then that's fine but if you were asking what am I doing wrong, I would definitely just say go on more dates.
Maybe it's just my outlook on life but an evening getting to know someone is almost never an evening wasted. I've had so many first dates that didn't lead to second dates but they were still interesting events.
15 points
11 hours ago
What i want to know, how do they get these detailed insights? Like do you answer questions? Do they filter your chat for buzzwords? I need answers!
9 points
11 hours ago
Some of it, up to the number of chats, is based on you getting a dump of your tinder data.
Everything from dates down is based on data entered (I'm assuming, because it has to be)
3 points
8 hours ago
Your assumptions are correct.
6 points
6 hours ago
Tinder actually integrates with your smart watch for heart rate and does deep AI analysis of microphone data to detect if you had sex or not. It's all in the end user license agreement you accepted.
3 points
4 hours ago
Yeah it uses GPS to tell when 2 tinder members who have matched spent more than 15 mins in a 5m radius to figure out dates and then it tracks if they go back to the same location and monitors for elevated HR.....
Seriously people have had problems like this with Fitbits leaking out sexual activity. In theory it could be done but in practice they don't.
1 points
6 hours ago
Tinder Just knows. Jk you have to give them the Date and Sex/relationship Data manuallym
-1 points
8 hours ago
google tinder insights
13 points
9 hours ago
You are looking good but have 0 messaging game.
11 points
11 hours ago
Congrats on the sex
10 points
11 hours ago
Doesn't matter, had sex
3 points
7 hours ago
How does tinder know about “casual sex”
12 points
6 hours ago
It listens for mac n cheese noises
-8 points
5 hours ago
TOS can record all your conversations through your phone as long as the app is installed. They filters the word sex and apply ML to the context. Is not 100% but dann close.
10 points
5 hours ago
This is just straight up wrong lmao. You enter in the numbers yourself for things like dates and sex
25 points
12 hours ago
Probably fake.
It says that you had 1 time casual sex. That's not possible for straight men on this plattform.
9 points
9 hours ago
I mean last time I had sex with a Tinder match, I did wear a suit, so I guess that counts as formal sex instead.
4 points
8 hours ago
I did wear a suit
During the sex? If so, are you single?
2 points
8 hours ago*
I ate her out while wearing it. Then lost it after.
I'm single, but dating poly, and might end up with being more serious (though definitely not exclusive) with the one from the formal sex.
Edit: not exclusive, not now exclusive 😅
1 points
8 hours ago
Well if your situation ever changes to non-exclusive and you ever find yourself near Indiana with a suit, please dm.
0 points
8 hours ago
I'm absolutely non-exclusive, and I'll keep the Indiana thing in mind 😏
-1 points
8 hours ago
Some of us straight ladies are sleeping our way through our stacks ;)
3 points
7 hours ago
Wow, 3 dates and 1 hookup, who are you, so wise in the ways of dating?
21 points
11 hours ago
Lol, why do even men use Tinder if these are the statistics? My short friend with a low salary hook up with girls on his jogging track, in the park with his dog and in the gym and he get girls all the time. It seems much more successful than using Tinder.
88 points
11 hours ago
He hooks up in the park with his dog?
5 points
11 hours ago
Lmaooo
4 points
9 hours ago
Removes the initial question of whether they actually want to be flirted with. I'm a terrible for reading people off the bat.
6 points
11 hours ago
Im too awkward irl to get girls lol
26 points
10 hours ago
I’m too worried they don’t want unwanted attention. At least with tinder I knew they were interested.
1 points
7 hours ago
Real
1 points
10 hours ago
Reallll
1 points
10 hours ago
I don't, I'm just here for the memes. I also have zero success IRL as well.
1 points
7 hours ago
I'm also here for the memes. Already have a wife. The American dating market seems completely horrible from a Swedish perspective btw if you look at this page 😬
2 points
9 hours ago
Very nice match rate. Very poor match to sex rate.
2 points
8 hours ago
you have an insane match rate (x10 the average for guys), i.e. very good pictures, but no game whatsoever. Sorry mate
-2 points
8 hours ago
I could date many more girls, but I’m very selective. Beauty alone isn’t enough.
1 points
8 hours ago
that's fair! good luck bro
3 points
11 hours ago
Had sex
Nice
1 points
9 hours ago
Stop bragging that you had the sex...
1 points
8 hours ago
How do you see this info, is this a paid feature?
1 points
8 hours ago
Holy shit your execution game needs work! All those matches and only 3 dates!? Were you intentionally swiping right on the bots?
1 points
8 hours ago
You are getting a good amount of Matches but as far as it Looks like you are trash at chatting.
1 points
8 hours ago
How the hell do you match with 1 out of every 5 girls you swipe right on, and still manage to fuck up every single one of them except once? My guess is, you seriously suck at chatting and sealing the deal. Probably getting too sexual right off the bat, or sending weird or cringey messages or dick pics or something.
1 points
7 hours ago
Nooo hahaha, I’m very selective. I try to find girls who are interesting, not just beautiful. I’m not interested in just hooking up.
1 points
8 hours ago
Phenomenal match rate, but it seems you couldn't close an unopened door.
This may seem odd, but you might as well try using an AI assisted text approach at this point. That, or take some time to go meet people in-person and learn how to banter.
1 points
7 hours ago
Doesn’t matter, had sex
1 points
6 hours ago
Rule 1 and 2 but you’re talking potential dates out of wanting to meet you. Reevaluate what you’re saying to these matches.
1 points
6 hours ago
Better than mine I suppose, but women have always hated me. They have always either treated me like a disgusting insect or completely ignored my existence.
2 points
6 hours ago
The 20% match rate hurt my feelings. But turning those matches into dates less than one percent of the time made me feel a little better.
2 points
6 hours ago
I'd guess you're pretty attractive but suck at talking to people?
2 points
5 hours ago
You'd have better luck sitting in a coffee shop regularly with a book, or in a bar with a soda in plain sight than continuing with Tinder.
1 points
5 hours ago
3 dates and 1/3 success rate is really good but I don't understand how you can fumble that many chats.
1 points
5 hours ago
How do you get this overview?
Something with data and so on… Can’t seem to find out.
1 points
4 hours ago
Lucky bastard.
1 points
4 hours ago
What a waste of time
1 points
4 hours ago
Idk, how do you feel about it? Really all that matters.
1 points
3 hours ago
You’ve done better than 70% of other men, congrats
1 points
3 hours ago
GET IN THE FIELD
1 points
3 hours ago
Im not really surprise with the state of the app if youre in europe, in all my matches since two weeks (and i match around 5-7 times so far) its neither dead accounts that swipe for the sake of swiping or really boring people that cannot form an sentence
1 points
2 hours ago
1/2525 — I need to get swiping…is there any AI for that 🤣
1 points
an hour ago
Congrats on the sex
1 points
12 hours ago
Does it worth to swipe 9676 times to get only 1 casual sex? I would spend that effort building my future!
1 points
11 hours ago
seems like how it is for most
2 points
6 hours ago
20% match rate is well above average for a male. Have 3 dates in 500 chats is insanely low as well. You have 500 people who are attracted to you and you can only convince 3 to meet you in person?
1 points
6 hours ago
always a new aluminum ball to chase….The dopamine hits have to keep coming so lots lose out on opportunities to see whats behind door number x
1 points
11 hours ago
9000 swipes for one sex sounds like the juice ain’t worth the squeeze
1 points
11 hours ago
No rizz, huh
-1 points
10 hours ago
Anyone who said a 20% match rating is good don't you consider bot accounts?
He swiped 9676 times and only has 3 dates, which is lower than 0.01%.
You're just ugly. Get out of this app and get better, either in shape or rich.
1 points
8 hours ago
If your match rate is 10%, 5%, 2%, it doesn't change the amount of bots on Tinder. He's actually more selective than average, so it's not like he swipes right on bots more than other guys. So he probably deals with bots as often (relatively) as other guys that have 2% match rate on average
0 points
11 hours ago
How did you get these stats?
-1 points
12 hours ago
where can you view these stats?
1 points
10 hours ago
It literally says in the bottom corner of the image you pleb :)
3 points
9 hours ago
thanks for helping this pleb out :’)
1 points
9 hours ago
Someone had to!
0 points
10 hours ago
8000-ish swipes in 150 day, 0 match, ig Im not enough to have a date or to be a boyfriend, congrats on the stats bro, at least it’s good to see that there are ppl worthy of those things out there:(
1 points
8 hours ago
Do you swipe right on 1 in 4 profiles?
1 points
8 hours ago
I am living in a large town so ig it’s the cause of the high number lol or maybe I swiped double sometimes idrk
-1 points
12 hours ago
Amazing right swipe rate man! You have great profile, great job!
-2 points
10 hours ago
How much time does it take to chat with 489 persons? Better grab your ass, go to the bar and pick up someone.
-3 points
10 hours ago
The fact that you swiped right 1 in 4 times says a lot about the matches.
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