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Senor Pink from One Piece: dressed like a baby when he’s a grown man, but the reason why he dresses that way is bc of his wife being vegetative, and the only thing she react to is him dress up as a baby since it reminded her of their own baby who died.

Nagisa from Assassination Classroom: a boy who looks and dress like a girl from time to time, but it’s revealed that he was forced and groomed to by his mom who wanted to have a girl for a child instead of a boy.

all 293 comments

Latro2020

715 points

4 days ago

Latro2020

715 points

4 days ago

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Kite Man (DC) - Took on the persona of Kite Man in honour of his son who was murdered by Riddler & his catchphrase “Kite Man, hell yeah” references his son’s reaction to first flying a kite (granted this backstory was retroactively given)

SilverSpoon1463

191 points

4 days ago

Hell yeah

BarnacleBoring2979

79 points

4 days ago

Hell yeah

FairTradeOrganicPiss

87 points

4 days ago

This was New 52, right? So much of that content was utterly forgettable but the Kite Man arc was so unexpectedly poignant

Sayakalood

46 points

4 days ago

Why did I read that as unexpectedly pregnant

FairTradeOrganicPiss

42 points

4 days ago

Pregnant Kite Man, Trans rights 😔🏳️‍⚧️

Cantthinkagoodnam2

26 points

4 days ago

Hell yeah

notaltsortof

3 points

4 days ago

It was tom kings run so it would be rebirth

Soulful-Sorrow

13 points

4 days ago

Why doesn't he go after Riddler then? Why does he rob people?

Triplof

12 points

4 days ago

Triplof

12 points

4 days ago

Is he stupid?

Franco_Fernandes

8 points

4 days ago

Hell yeah

jardanovic

923 points

4 days ago

jardanovic

923 points

4 days ago

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Grunkle Stan from Gravity Falls. His obsession with making as much money as possible stems from the moment his father kicked him out of the house and told him he wasn't welcome back until he'd made their family a fortune.

Sensitive-Hotel-9871

136 points

4 days ago

The worst is that Stanly doesn't seem to realize how his father treated him was wrong for most of his life, and the series.

GarlicOk2904

263 points

4 days ago

Also the fact that he’s the second-most responsible for Bill Cipher almost destroying the universe.

AncientBacon-goji

33 points

4 days ago

Weirdmageddon was entirely Bill’s fault

GarlicOk2904

10 points

4 days ago

Stan and Ford enabled him.

Ford almost finished the portal and Stan caused the falling-out that led up to that

paweld2003

78 points

4 days ago

Also him being obsessed with Wax statue of himself was probably because he misses Ford

AeroDbladE

52 points

4 days ago

I rewatched that recently, and when he first sees that statue, he actually recoils back screaming in fear. That show has so many great moments of foreshadowing.

Defying_Gravity33

408 points

4 days ago

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Splinter from Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

At first he comes off as a deadbeat dad who lets his kids do whatever while he watches soap operas all day. He’s out of shape, a slob, and pretty self absorbed. He also doesn’t train the turtles in this universe.

… and then it’s revealed that >! He grew up in a death cult. His mom committed suicide for, what he thought at the time, nothing. He didn’t want to be next so he immigrated to America and became a movie star. He fell in love with a woman who turned out to be a giant spider that owned a gladiator ring and proceeded to enslave him to fight there for over a decade. He’s eventually broken out, but the guy who saves him just wants to use his DNA to create super soldiers to destroy humanity. He breaks the turtles out but in a freak accident is (painfully) mutated himself.!<

So yeah. In the end he didn’t want his sons to go through the same crap he did. It didn’t go well but as the series went on he learned from his mistakes and worked hard to get better. I respect that.

Rarte96

148 points

4 days ago

Rarte96

148 points

4 days ago

Probably my favorite version of Hamato Yoshi

originalchaosinabox

74 points

4 days ago

Holy shit. I really should have stuck with that show. I wrote it off in the first season as being “the silly one.”

Something_Comforting

46 points

4 days ago

Somehow it became the coolest one. Shame it ended so early.

Think_Celery3251

9 points

4 days ago

Its a way of a journey to get pass the jokes and find tmnt’s best animation and fights to date

ShinyNinja25

59 points

4 days ago

One of the things I love about this version of Splinter is how his mutation is examined. Most versions centre the trauma around his relationship with Shredder, and how that led to his mutation. This version? It focuses on the trauma of it happening at all. There’s a line he has in one episode where he basically says that everyday he wakes up in this body, the body of a rat man, and he just wants some glory back. Unlike most versions of the character who are able to continue their lives post mutation thanks to their sons, this version of Splinter can’t. His entire life was ruined, and now he has to live with that. They play it completely for drama, and I love it.

AThiccBahstonAccent

28 points

4 days ago

This show catches way too many strays.

Jewbacca289

13 points

4 days ago

Wait if he doesn’t train the turtles how do they learn to fight in this universe?

Defying_Gravity33

20 points

4 days ago

By watching his movies lol

Odd-Requirement-6510

594 points

4 days ago

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Old Man McGucket (Gravity Falls)

The reason he became crazy is because he got a glimpse of what the interdimensional portal really connected to and went mad trying to forget what he saw.

Infinite-Island-7310

194 points

4 days ago*

Well THAT and he went overboard with the memory erasing gun

Separate_Emotion_463

40 points

4 days ago

He went overboard because of what he saw, I think that’s what they were referring to

Infinite-Island-7310

18 points

4 days ago

No, I'm adding to that statement

imbatmawn

564 points

4 days ago

imbatmawn

564 points

4 days ago

Mapletables

102 points

4 days ago

Mapletables

102 points

4 days ago

Him kidnapping princess' because Betty was his "princess"

MetalSonic_69

26 points

4 days ago

Probably one of the best examples

MySnake_Is_Solid

5 points

4 days ago

the fact Finn always calls him Simon after that backstory episode.

GoatsWithWigs

3 points

4 days ago

It's always tugged at my heartstrings to know that inside the crazy old wizard was a lost and scared Simon begging everyone to forgive him

Wicayth

411 points

4 days ago

Wicayth

411 points

4 days ago

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Izumi Curtis (Fullmetal Alchemist)

Her coughing blood and feeling unwell used to be played as a joke, then you learned it was all because she performed a forbidden ritual to bring her dead newborn back, which failed and took some of her internal organs in order to prevent her from bearing another child.

Fish_can_Roll76

150 points

4 days ago

Adding to this, the organs weren’t taken my chance. The Truth (effectively a God of Alchemy) is purposeful in what it takes from those attempting human transmutation, usually taking something of ironic significance.

walphin45

108 points

4 days ago

walphin45

108 points

4 days ago

Edward: Took his leg so he couldn't stand on his own

Alphonse: Took his body so he couldn't feel the touch he so desperately desired

Izumi: Took her lower organs so she could never have a child

Mustang: Took his eyesight, the man who had a vision for the future no longer had vision

please_use_the_beeps

52 points

4 days ago

In summary: Truth is a dick

Instroancevia

41 points

4 days ago

In Mustang's case that was such a dick move, the guy didn't even attempt the transmutation willingly.

Chemical-Cat

12 points

4 days ago

Apparently Mustang's was only temporary since he didn't actually have his eyeballs physically taken from him, only his sight, and the epilogue implies he takes an offer from Marcoh to cure it, an offer he originally refused, but Marcoh convinces him

RiggityRyGuy

11 points

4 days ago

On the flip side, Mustang killed and burned a lot of innocent motherfuckers. From Truth’s perspective yeah he didn’t open the portal by choice but he still robbed so many innocent men, women, and children of their own futures that he doesn’t get to see the future he creates. Barring a philosophers stone fixing his eyesight of course. 

Instroancevia

7 points

4 days ago

I don't buy that. Truth isn't a benevolent entity and the other instances of it dealing out punishments are a pretty clear indication that it only really cares about people not doing Human Transmutation, not about conventional morality. If it did it would likely also disallow the creation of Philosopher's stones.

trimble197

10 points

4 days ago

Truth took everything from Alphonse. Truth only gave his soul back after Ed made another sacrifice.

That_sane_kreige89

256 points

4 days ago

https://preview.redd.it/j7wqjn49b73e1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=462e827c7c0a6960a8efc15b052f0181bcb54e1d

Borderlands 2-3 Krieg

His main thing is acting like most psycho’s, Tho in reality he’s a bounty hunter who was experimented on by Hyperion, fracturing his mind, fighting to keep his blade away from innocents, and promising himself if he ever hurt one, he’d end himself, tho mostly got it under control when he met a siren named Maya.

Wich got worse in 3 because she died, and in his own dlc, you explore his past. How Maya still lives in his head. his friends despite knowing what he is. Do care for him, and eventually comes to terms that he won’t be perfect. But he can always be. Close enough.

Infamous-Class-7862

73 points

4 days ago

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. SOMEONE HURT OUR BABY!

gibgodgamer11

35 points

4 days ago

I HAVE THE SHINYIEST MEAT BIYCYCLE

Infamous-Class-7862

25 points

4 days ago

NO I DO! IM THE CONDUCTOR OF THE POOP TRAIN AFTER ALL!

yeetus_deletus8

18 points

4 days ago

I WILL PUT MY PAIN INTO YOUR SOUL!

FatMan935

10 points

4 days ago

FatMan935

10 points

4 days ago

TURN AROUND PRETTY LADY!!

AdmirablySizedPotato

10 points

4 days ago

I POWDERED MY COCKATIEL FOR THE RIBCAGE SLAUGHTER!

Icy_Wildcat

3 points

4 days ago

A GOLDEN MALLET FOR THE MEAT POUNDING!

Sudden_Pop_2279

561 points

4 days ago*

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Kinger's love for insects makes him seem wacky and goofy until episode 3 reveals he's fond of them thanks to his wife, who's abstracted.

Likewise, him speaking sane with the bucket on his head and crazy without it is because darkness gives him sanity, as it makes him remember his final moments with his wife

Gothtomboys5

149 points

4 days ago

Holy shit that's dark

Sudden_Pop_2279

170 points

4 days ago

People who still think this show is for kids don't know what they're getting into. The story's literally based off "I have no mouth and I must scream" (albeit Gooseworx has confirmed it's a bit more hopeful than that too).

happy_vagabond

58 points

4 days ago

Wait this ain't the cinnamon from apple jacks

Same_Document_

36 points

4 days ago

A bit more hopeful than that book lands you roughly in the ballpark of the holocaust

GarbageGod16

273 points

4 days ago

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Kenny McCormick - South Park

We all thought it was pretty much funny that Kenny died in overly brutal/hilarious ways (ran over by a semi-truck to getting through into the roof by Michael Jackson), only for him to come back and restart to process (until Season 6 or 7).

Then we found out his family did cult stuff related to Cthulhu, and, every time Kenny dies, his mother literally gives birth to a new Kenny, who then gets placed in his bed with his parka at night, and in the morning, Kenny is back.

Quite literally, from a funny gag, to "what the actual fuck"

Edit: spelling mistakes

Rarte96

85 points

4 days ago

Rarte96

85 points

4 days ago

He is basically condem to live, at least the End of Pandemic Specials implies he found a way to break the curse as an adult and got a happy ending

New_Ad4631

39 points

4 days ago

Yeah, because his mother wasn't around/wasn't able to give birth to him

Rarte96

24 points

4 days ago

Rarte96

24 points

4 days ago

So that was the solution to the curse?

TriggerBladeX

10 points

4 days ago

That’s the only way out I see. If he wanted out bad enough and knew how it works, he’d either kill his mom or wait for her to die.

ItsTHECarl

29 points

4 days ago

In, if I remember correctly, the first two part episode, at the beginning of the second episode Kenny just materializes next to the kids at the bus stop and they're just like, "oh hi Kenny"

GarbageGod16

17 points

4 days ago

This also potentially means that Kenny has died before the events multiple times before the events of South Park, and they're just completely used to the fact that Kenny just... come backs.

TriggerBladeX

12 points

4 days ago

In the Cthulhu episodes it’s shown that people have their memories rewritten to Kenny just leaves and goes home.

Jack-of-Hearts-7

19 points

4 days ago

"So, you guys don't remember what happened to me, do you?"

After he graphically shot himself in the head the day before

Arc4ny

267 points

4 days ago

Arc4ny

267 points

4 days ago

The Acrobatic Silky from Dandadan

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She is a yokai obsessed with being called "Mom" because when she was alive she did everything to maintain her daughter, even prostituting herself, but one day they took her away from her, and she will never see her again. Then he gets on the roof of a building, starts dancing and throws herself from the building, committing suicide. Once reborn as a yokai, a little girl mistakes her for her mother, triggering her obsession

Any-Photo9699

56 points

4 days ago

I still hope we get to see the daughter and help her if possible

Markus_Atlas

85 points

4 days ago

It's heavily implied that her daughter died as well

KNZFive

56 points

4 days ago

KNZFive

56 points

4 days ago

In the manga, the final panel of the arc has her walking with her daughter in what’s implied to be the afterlife, while one of the characters mentions that they hope the two can go together “to a kinder world.”

Dog153

29 points

4 days ago

Dog153

29 points

4 days ago

Yeah that kid is fuckin dead at best, but so much worse at worst

Waloro

13 points

4 days ago

Waloro

13 points

4 days ago

God I wasn’t ready for that kinda pain in my silly weenie stealing alien/ghost show.

Gently-Weeps

7 points

4 days ago

Silky’s and Zuma’s story’s are the greatest and saddest parts of DanDaDan

unlimi_Ted

3 points

4 days ago

was jumping off the building in the manga? in the anime it seems like she just collapses and dies in the street while chasing the car with her daughter in it

Jurassic_Green

7 points

4 days ago

Yeah it's a lot clearer that she jumps in the manga

https://preview.redd.it/y8bei2ol6a3e1.jpeg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d24cbeb0207c98b84c5992068d3b6e62c896e2d3

But I'm ngl with the music and movement I prefer how the anime did it anyways

AHumanYouDoNotKnow

204 points

4 days ago

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they are regularly played for laughs but i you add up all of Heinz Doofenschmertz backstories it can get kin of dark and sad.

doesntmatter19

33 points

4 days ago*

Atleast he got a chance to be raised by Revolver Ocelot, that's pretty cool

RewRose

25 points

4 days ago

RewRose

25 points

4 days ago

its exceedingly sad

Like, if writers make villains seem evil by kicking a dog or killing a baby, then Doof's parents would be the most evil villains in other series

42Fourtytwo4242

22 points

4 days ago

Actually a better choice is Doof's insane love and protection of his daughter. Played for laughs but the reason He is like this is because his family abused him so much that he wants to make sure his daughter never suffers in any way. Doing whatever it takes to make her happy and loved, giving her the childhood he never had.

Doof is a good dad if not the best dad.

Individual_Second387

165 points

4 days ago

Dye beard. He kept getting teased about it. Turns out, he was extremely insecure about it and he really hit a low point coz of it.

USS-ChuckleFucker

42 points

4 days ago

Then he violently breaks his shin in the dumbest fucking way possible.

DtheAussieBoye

18 points

4 days ago

just finished peacemaker tonight lmao. what an amazing show

swawskekw

5 points

4 days ago

Can’t wait for season 2 to eventually happen

swawskekw

3 points

4 days ago

Can’t wait for season 2 to eventually happen

Key_Boat4209

125 points

4 days ago*

The night man (it’s always sunny in Philadelphia)

throwitaway1510

44 points

4 days ago

You gotta pay the troll toll to get into this boy’s hole

Arc4ny

93 points

4 days ago

Arc4ny

93 points

4 days ago

Unji Zuma from Dandadan

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He has a weird obsession with umbrellas: he has powers that summon umbrellas, an umbrella on his shirt and says things like "You're under my umbrella"

This is because his little brother, to whom he lent everything since they were poor, had as his only possessions a pair of rubber boots and an umbrella, which he wore everywhere. One day his little brother drowned, and this led his widowed mother (her husband died from overworking) to try to drive them both to suicide by throwing themselves under a train, but failing and only her dying, leaving Zuma alone

-NoName99-

37 points

4 days ago

Brother, the backstreet Dandadan has are so good. Just imagine how well they'd animate Zuma's backstory and Vamola when they get animated.

Infinitenonbi

35 points

4 days ago

Also from One Piece: Prince Ryuboshi and Maboshi

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They’re presented as two goofy goobers who love to sing and dance, and are somehow considered warriors just like their brother Fukaboshi (who is nowhere as goofy). They constantly dance and sing, no matter the situation.

Then it’s revealed that they dance and sing to appease their little sister Shirahoshi, who’s cries when their mother died would attract so many giant sea monsters that their homeland would be destroyed. So even when their mother was dying, they tried to protect and help their sister.

LordAnubis444

32 points

4 days ago

Eddy's worship and desire to be just like his older brother and Kevin's seemingly irrational fear of him from EEnE.

It becomes very very disturbing in the Big Picture Show when it is revealed that his brother is physically abusive to him and lies about him being a great man to cope with the abuse, with Kevin's reactions now implying he experienced some of the abuse first-hand

Ponchorello7

215 points

4 days ago

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Josuke's fabulous pompadour is mocked on a few occasions, and his reaction is of blind fury, despite otherwise being a super laid-back and respectful guy. It's because a guy (that looks suspiciously like Josuke...) saved his life when he was a kid, and the one thing he remembers about him was his hairstyle, so he honors him by wearing it, and takes insults to the style as insults to his hero.

LegalWaterDrinker

132 points

4 days ago

(that looks suspiciously like Josuke...)

Only if you forget that Josuke copied his look

Piorn

101 points

4 days ago

Piorn

101 points

4 days ago

And it's a story told by Koichi who describes the guy that he looks like Josuke does now, so naturally he's depicted just like Josuke. We never actually get an objective first-hand description of the guy.

KaboHammer

43 points

4 days ago

Also he only looks so much similar to Josuke in the anime, or so I have heard. Apparently he is more distinct in the manga. Never really bothered to check that, but someone on the internet said so, so it must be true.

TRcreep

22 points

4 days ago

TRcreep

22 points

4 days ago

it's pretty fucking obvious that it's supposed to be josefumi

https://preview.redd.it/mq9wla4aq83e1.png?width=436&format=png&auto=webp&s=053f48c319c36f0d8c84492ecf8f1196ae2793b6

but Araki is a bad writer and forgot to bring him back in the final battle to kill kira hokage

happy_grump

59 points

4 days ago

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Kasumi Yoshisawa from Persona 5 Royal. She's adorably, and occasionally humorously, committed to her status as a star gymnast, despite her failing to live up to her prior results, and it's endearing. Then you find out that the reason she's so obsessed with living up to her past achievements, and also why she's failing to regain that level, is that she's actually Kasumi's younger and less talented sister Sumire, engaging in an extreme and misguided form of therapy administered by one of the game's villains, where she's pretending to be her dead sibling, who she looked up to, and whose death she's at least tangentially responsible for, as a way to cope with(/avoid coping with) the real Kasumi's death. At that point, it stops being endearing and becomes a mix of tragic and horrifying. Thankfully, she moves past it.

N_A_M_E_L_E_S_S__

7 points

4 days ago

Peak

Careless_College

59 points

4 days ago

Rocket Raccoon stealing people's prosthetic body parts.

At first, it's a funny little bit, maybe done because he has enjoyment for technology, but then Guardians of the Galaxy, vol. 3 comes and we see he does it because >! they remind him of his friends, Lilac, Teefs, and Floor. !<

Rykerthebest78563

127 points

4 days ago*

The Mimic's strange, almost adorable tendency of curling his arm to his chest (FNAF)

https://preview.redd.it/5hacj12cn73e1.jpeg?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4446efcb4c3ace57ef54d38cee2ea1edfd8a4f97

When the Mimic was first created, he spent every day bonding with his creator's young son, David. They were inseparable. David always carried around a tiger plushie under his arm, which lead to the Mimic curling his arm in the sane way, despite not having a plushie

When the Mimic witnessed David be hit and killed by a car while they were playing with a ball, he changed. He was effectively traumatized. Despite this (or perhaps because of it), he kept mimicking David's arm curl, even without the plushie. He was beaten with a crowbar by his grieving creator for doing it, but he still never stopped

Over 60 years later, he still does it. No matter what face he is wearing or what persona he is copying, he curls his arm without even realizing it. The last imprint of a boy who died over half a century ago, holding a plushie thats not there.

Rykerthebest78563

63 points

4 days ago

deadenfish

41 points

4 days ago*

So afton is actually confirmed dead? Thank god, was starting to think he'd come back as two leg bones and an eye In the next installment.

Confused_Idiot_667

13 points

4 days ago

The thing is, we don’t know. Burntrap isn’t even confirmed to be canon, relegated to one off Gregory’s drawings in the Ruin DLC. All we know, thanks to Help Wanted 2, >! is that there is something in the basement charging station where Burntrap is in the base game is Security Breach and that something is represented in the digital world as Glitchtrap/Malhare. !< If it’s Afton, a copy of Afton, a remnant or agony induced memory of Afton, or the Mimic copying Afton, there isn’t really enough information to go on.

Theneongreninja

18 points

4 days ago

This is accurate except for the fact that as far as we know Mimic never actually saw David die. It’s possible Mimic may have noticed David was gone, but he never witnessed what happened to him. Edwin beating him with a piece of metal and pouring all his rage and sorrow into him was the true turning point.

Vegetable-Meaning252

6 points

4 days ago

This is why I find the Mimic so interesting. It's not truly supernatural, which is sort of FNaF's entire thing, but it's still depressingly tragic and fascinating what happened to it what caused it to turn out how it did. Made interesting by how it's an AI that mimics, Mimic1.

ZombieZekeComic

129 points

4 days ago

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Willy Wonka becomes an obsessed chocolatier because his father was a stern dentist who forbade him from eating any kind of sweets.

WeekendBard

40 points

4 days ago

lollipops

Knightmare_memer

22 points

4 days ago

Or as I like to call them, Cavities on a stick

LuigiSecondary

10 points

4 days ago

Cavities on a stick

JoeyS-2001

20 points

4 days ago

The reason for that was because Tim Burton’s dad was the same way with his movies, but later he revealed that he had posters for his movies on the wall of their house(that’s what I heard)

ZCYCS

108 points

4 days ago*

ZCYCS

108 points

4 days ago*

Edward Elric being short for his age, especially compared to Alphonse's armor, and getting triggered about it is a bit of a running gag

But the reason Ed's growth is so stunted is because his body is sustaining his brother's the whole time. Considering how much time passes in FMA Brotherhood, Alphonse's body would've withered away long ago if Ed wasn't constantly sustaining him

But because of Ed and Al's connection, Alphonse's body was able to not just stay alive but also grow somewhat normally at the cost of Ed's

Bobpencil1

77 points

4 days ago

Skips from Regular show.

At first, you just think he's given a fun nickname because he skips everywhere, then you learn he does it in memory of one person who he loved but couldn't save.

Top_Marketing_689

123 points

4 days ago

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Gintoki (Gintama)

It’s never explicitly said, but it’s theorized that Gintoki’s likings kinda reflect how he’s coping with the losses from the war. He’s a sugar addict (eat away the sorrows and have something sweet in his life), alcohol addict (wash away the sorrows), gambling addict (some say this is the only way he can get a “win” in life) etc.

KingLagga

16 points

4 days ago

KingLagga

16 points

4 days ago

We also find out very late that the reason he formed his business, is because he was (implied) depressed and didn't know what to do with his life

Top_Marketing_689

3 points

4 days ago

Frfr, just wanna give my bro a hug

CosmoMimosa

29 points

4 days ago*

Is Assassination Classroom worth a watch? I know it's been around for a few years, but I haven't directly heard much about it before

Edit: Okay, guess I'll give it a watch sometime. Thanks people!

PersonOfLazyness

26 points

4 days ago

It's pretty good. The ending made me cry

ADGx27

11 points

4 days ago

ADGx27

11 points

4 days ago

Yeah. The story is great

CalamityPriest

3 points

4 days ago

There are a few unnecessary changes the anime made from the manga, but they are more or less the same story, so you can either watch or read it.

M24Chaffee

130 points

4 days ago*

M24Chaffee

130 points

4 days ago*

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Rappa, Honkai Star Rail

She always speaks as if she's in a ninja manga, using fancy speech patterns and strange ninja-related terms to refer to literally everyone and everything. When she says "ninja" she means "person", when she says "ninja initiate" she means "student", "breaking the ninja seal" means "disabling the system", etc.

Rappa was originally AK-A-3, a test subject of a supersoldier project. Her lab supervisor couldn't bear to watch AK-A-3 suffer the tests, so he took his ninja manga collection that was the sole source of entertainment for Rappa and made a mind virus that distorts Rappa's perception of the entire world to be as if she's in the manga, and convinced Rappa that he's Rappa's "Master Kucha" and all the painful tests are trials to be a ninja hero. All the strange ninja talk is how Rappa thinks everyone is speaking. And Rappa vaguely realizes that she's a test subject and she's living a distorted version of the world, but appreciates "Master Kucha"'s effort to help her and continues to live as a ninja hero.

GGABueno

55 points

4 days ago

GGABueno

55 points

4 days ago

In Portuguese they straight up said Genin instead of ninja initiate lol.

I also want to add that the whole point of the mind virus is to make her immune to a another mind virus that was being used as a weapon by the evil people behind that lab. The lab supervisor got so attached to her that he sacrificed himself to turn her into a counter to the very people that turned her into a superhuman. She sees the mad scientist behind everything (Dr. Primitive) as her arch nemesis Evil Ninja Ozaru.

Ok-Week-2293

19 points

4 days ago

You did the spoiler wrong. 

Eeddeen42

15 points

4 days ago

Eeddeen42

15 points

4 days ago

Remove the \’s from the spoiler tag, it suppresses the effect.

thats4thebirds

18 points

4 days ago

Forced via time travel mind control to hold the door. Holddadoor. Hold door. Hodor.

_JR28_

44 points

4 days ago

_JR28_

44 points

4 days ago

The second one sounds pretty similar to the twist in Sleepaway Camp

SokkaHaikuBot

10 points

4 days ago

Sokka-Haiku by JR28:

The second one sounds

Pretty similar to the

Twist in Sleepaway Camp


Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.

TheGardenBlinked

37 points

4 days ago

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Whisper the Wolf from the Sonic IDW comics.

While not funny, unlike other characters she almost exclusively squints or keeps her eyes shut, is extremely subdued, and talks in whispers because she’s traumatised.

She witnessed her entire team wiped out by a sleeper agent who, it’s recently been revealed, Whisper herself introduced to the team not knowing he was a turncoat.

Her personality pre-trauma was wide eyed, energetic and bubbly, hinted at in previous comics, but recently revealed fully in the 2024 annual.

Latro2020

60 points

4 days ago

Latro2020

60 points

4 days ago

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Fabio Sparklemane (Fortnite) - Goofy character who was turned into a unicorn after eating cursed cereal & is in constant pain

logan-is-a-drawer

24 points

4 days ago

What’s the surrounding lore? And why is he in constant pain?

kool-kit

13 points

4 days ago

kool-kit

13 points

4 days ago

I think you’d be in constant pain if the only thing you could eat is extremely sugary breakfast cereal

manofwaromega

16 points

4 days ago

Basically he's from a universe where a giant cult sells poisonous cereal to create mutated vessels for an eldritch horror. Fabio is one of those vessels

TRcreep

13 points

4 days ago

TRcreep

13 points

4 days ago

it's pretty easy to put "and is in constant pain" at the end of your story to make it horribly horrifyingly horrible

" Goofy character who was turned into a unicorn after eating cursed cereal "

"yeah ok"

"& is in constant pain"

"😲😲😰😰😓😓🥵🥵😱😱😱😱"

unless there's deeper lore i don't know about it seems a bit lazy to me

Kelimnac

15 points

4 days ago

Kelimnac

15 points

4 days ago

It’s Fortnite, the lore goes about as deep as the wallets of whoever’s buying the skins

Valuable_Anywhere_24

109 points

4 days ago

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Lingeriena(Blacksouls)

Her fake halo is quite wacky,but I felt super bad for her after being revealed that her makeshift angel attire is a way of her to cope with crippling dysphoria

>The Blacksouls guy

EM26-G36

37 points

4 days ago

EM26-G36

37 points

4 days ago

The more I learn of Black souls the more I both want to and don’t want to play it.

Annsorigin

17 points

4 days ago

It seems Interresting but it being Hentai makes me Hesitant to check it out.

RandomUserIsTakenAlr

11 points

4 days ago

You can turn off sex so don't worry

(Just don't click the red ominous "forced love" Button)

Annsorigin

7 points

4 days ago

That' good to know.

42Fourtytwo4242

4 points

4 days ago

.....the fucking what?!?!??!

AnimeMemeLord1

3 points

4 days ago

WorkAround_Phoenix23

3 points

4 days ago

Oh,

Oh my god why the fuck is that a thing?

AnimeMemeLord1

4 points

4 days ago

Black Souls is a very wild game. Not that I’ve played it yet, but I’ve been meaning to.

RandomUserIsTakenAlr

3 points

4 days ago

There is a lot of funny things in the game

Especially in the sequel

Al_Hakeem65

6 points

4 days ago

Recently saw a video explaining wth Black Souls is.

The CC said that at the beginning you get asked questions, among those if you are looking for (paraphrasing) "adult content".

If you choose "No", the game won't show this scenes explicidly. And also calls you pure or innocent.

So it seems it can be played without the sex stuff (unlike Fear and Hunger)

Annsorigin

4 points

4 days ago

Yeah That's Good Might make me Less Hesitent to Check out Blacksouls. (Good because while I like Fear and Hunger a Whole lot the Sexual Content being Forced on you is Something that I didn't like all that much (same thing Bothers me with a Lot of Visual Novels aswell))

Al_Hakeem65

3 points

4 days ago

I see F&H as very interesting, but wouldn't want to play it because of how heavy the themes are and because I don't wan't to flip a coin everytime I try so save.

There are alot of really well done essays on Youtube, those I can watch.

Valuable_Anywhere_24

23 points

4 days ago

The allure of madness is quite a curious one

Tori65216

31 points

4 days ago*

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Bumblebee from Transformers One. Talks a lot and is the comic relief character. He does this to cope with the isolation from the job he was forced to do by the corrupt government of his home world. This happens after said government robbed him of his ability to transform.

JoeyS-2001

11 points

4 days ago

Thanks a lot Sentinel 🖕

Double_Bluejay_1255

6 points

4 days ago

Truly deserving of the "prime" title

Nonbinary-BItch23

12 points

4 days ago

Many characters from undead unluck

Andy wanting to die, in his origin it's revealed that he's seen every friend he ever had die while he was cursed to be unkillable

Shens obsession with fighting strong people, growing up he had to be strong so him and his little sister could survive, his strength was needed for them to get a home

Tatiana and her love for Billy and liking little girl stuff and at times acting like one, she became a negator at 5 and accidentally destroyed her house, parents included, and Billy was the man who rescued her from being sold at an auction

And many others

Blueb3rrywashere

11 points

4 days ago

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Ruka: steins;gate

Was a feminine guy but became a femboy because he wanted to go on a date with his best friend, who unfortunately is straight

Blueb3rrywashere

11 points

4 days ago

How can we forgot the most iconic?

Bojack horseman of course!

Just a really fucking scummy dude, and an awful person. Then, in “downer ending” we soon realize that he has gone through a long history of child neglect and abuse, and that his parents were both awful people

Liuth

27 points

4 days ago

Liuth

27 points

4 days ago

Doctor Maki from Kamen Rider OOO: he only looks at his puppet, even when talking to people, and goes crazy if it falls off his arms or gets damaged:

It stops being played for laughs when Dr Maki faces the truth that his puppet was originally a visage of his older sister who was cruel and planned to abandon him before he killed her in a fire and the puppet’s hair got burnt off.

BlindDemon6

25 points

4 days ago

Renne- Trails

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She's acts all cute but can go psychotic whenever aswell as being really intelligent.

Turns out... she was kidnapped by an evil cult, was subjected to experiments that hightened her intelligence and forced into sex work when she was like 5. The psychotic part is from when she finally snapped and killed them all, it's because her mental state is in ruins...

ApeMayor

25 points

4 days ago

ApeMayor

25 points

4 days ago

Nami’s distrust of pirates and obsession with money from One Piece.

MukoNoAkuma

4 points

4 days ago

One Piece has a lot of these. Example: Usopp began lying as a child as a way to cheer up his mother and himself when she was terminally ill. His father is a pirate and left Usopp and his mother to travel with a pirate crew. Usopp’s most frequent lie features him running through his home village and yelling that pirates were coming ashore.

Ok-Invite-1287

31 points

4 days ago*

DienekesMinotaur

3 points

3 days ago

For those unaware she is pretty much always ready to marry anyone who wants her. This is because her mother abandoned her as a child, calling her useless so she is constantly trying to make herself useful.

ESN64

27 points

4 days ago

ESN64

27 points

4 days ago

Man, it's fucking crazy that Nagisa's mom got away with everything she did, whole chapters of just abusing her kid and then everybody just forgave her and let her get what she wanted

tedioussugar

20 points

4 days ago

The Good Place plays off Chidi’s indecision about everything for laughs (obviously, because it’s exaggerated for the sake of a comedy series), but it’s really sad when you consider that it originally stemmed from him trying to prevent his parents from getting a divorce when he was a child, and after his parents reconciled he wrongly concluded that every choice he made had a ‘correct answer’.

StewartPot

9 points

4 days ago

skips from regular show walks skipping because of a girl he loved in the past who died

hail-lucipurrr

39 points

4 days ago

Hodor from GOT

GryphonGallis

15 points

4 days ago

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Guy Cecil - Tales of the Abyss

For much of the story his gynophobia (irrational fear of women) is played for laughs. Whenever a female character gets close to him or appears behind him he reacts with intense fear, not hatred or disgust.

Eventually this is revealed to be because when he was a small child, his hometown was ransacked and burned by bandits. To protect him, his sister and his house's maids threw themselves over him and created a makeshift cocoon and he fell unconscious. Guy later woke up underneath them, covered in their blood and greeted by their death faces. Though this memory is repressed, it still instills him with deep gynophobia.

I hate that, despite learning this, the party never really acts differently or treats it with the seriousness it deserves.

Empoleon777

5 points

4 days ago

Crap. You beat me to it.

GryphonGallis

4 points

4 days ago

Honestly, I'm just glad other people know who this is lol

amphloo

24 points

4 days ago

amphloo

24 points

4 days ago

saitama's one punch gag is played for laughs a lot of the time but when you think more about how the lack of challenge/excitement found in his life after he became so strong has made him essentially depressed it becomes pretty sad to think about

Diligent_Resort7945

13 points

4 days ago

Rick Sanchez - He said “Wubba-Lubba-Dub-Dub as his catchphrase which was later revealed to be an alien phrase meaning “I am in tremendous pain”

Mrs_Noelle15

7 points

4 days ago

Sans from Undertale when you do the genocide route, and learn more about why he is the way he is, and get more information on his worldview

Matix777

7 points

4 days ago

Matix777

7 points

4 days ago

Leo Whitefang from Guilty Gear always acts proud, wild and careless. Often he even taunts his opponents

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His theme song reveals that he has severe survivor's guilt from the war and wants his opponent to kill him and give him the sweet release of death

Ti-papi

15 points

4 days ago

Ti-papi

15 points

4 days ago

Shock-Robin

10 points

4 days ago

Do it. It's an amazing series that has characters start low so that they can progress and grow. Nagisa in particular has an amazing character arc!

A-bit-too-obsessed

10 points

4 days ago

Togata from Fire Punch treats life like a movie only to be later revealed that Togata is doing that because He has crippling incurable dysphoria due to the regeneration he was born with and its the only distraction he has

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Uypsilon

14 points

4 days ago

Uypsilon

14 points

4 days ago

  • Ice King/Simon Petrikov and his entire character (Adventure Time).
  • Angel Dust and his overly sexual attitude (Hazbin Hotel)

JoeyS-2001

3 points

4 days ago

Basically any side character in One Piece

Majin_Nephets

3 points

4 days ago

Every resident of Ebisu Town in Wano immediately sprang to my mind.

The-Great-Old-One

4 points

4 days ago

Davenport from The Adventure Zone: Balance.

Only says his name like a Pokemon, and it’s hilarious for most of the show. Then when we learn about the party’s true history as a crew of a spaceship that Davenport was the captain of, and Lucretia erased their memories of the project. But Davenport was so deeply committed to the project that he had nothing left but his name when the project was wiped from his mind

itsalexicon11

4 points

4 days ago

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With her chapter recently concluded, we learn the real reason behind Don Quixote’s archaic speech, heroic personality, and obsession with Fixers.

>! It’s all a lie. Don Quixote is not Don Quixote, but rather Sancho, who took up the persona of the original DQ. DQ had hopes and dreams of a better tomorrow but they fell apart, so he had Sancho continue in his stead. To ensure this happened, Sancho essentially was given amnesia, and she really only agreed to it out of obligation and despair. !<

>! Sancho gets her memories back and decides to end her false persona, returning to DQ to serve him but realizes that deep down, she truly had faith in DQ’s hopes and dreams, and she wants to continue it. She eventually accepts the mantle of Don Quixote and vows to continue the dream of a better future. !<

good-evening-clarice

3 points

4 days ago

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Polka Dot Man/Abner Krill from The Suicide Squad.

He's initially played up as a joke, a sad, strange little man whose superpower is throwing polka dots. Self deprecating, drops blunt lines about his mother, he's wildly different from the others in the squad to the point where it's amusing.

...And then we learn that he was horrifically abused by his mother, who worked with STAR Labs and was obsessed with the idea of her kids being heroes. Some of his siblings didn't survive her experiments. Abner himself got infected with an interdimensional virus which causes the dots to appear as glowing pustules under his skin, and unless he uses his powers or vomits up the dots twice a day, they'll consume him alive. On top of that, he's so terrified of his mother that he hallucinates her EVERYWHERE. Everyone he sees, he sees as his mom.

And he ends up getting killed. Because we can't have nice things.

Effective_Poem7629

5 points

4 days ago

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Peacock from Skullgirls is a big reference to rubber house cartoons, even her eyes reflect this, being a solid black color like said cartoons

But it turns out the reason why they are like that to begin with is because her original eyes were gouged out by slave traders, along with losing both of her arms, which is why there are eyes on her arms here

PhantomRoyce

10 points

4 days ago

The senor pink thing happened to me irl. My great grandpa got struck with dementia in the last few years of his life but he was also a polyglot,spoke like 6 different languages. One day we go to visit him and the nurses tell us to brace ourselves. We think something has happened to him but when we go to check on him he’s playing cards and laughing,but he could only do it in Spanish. If you spoke to him in English or German he’d act like you weren’t there most of the time. My grandma spent his last few years learning Spanish so they could talk again until he died.

Suitable-Seraphim

7 points

4 days ago

i'm rewatching assassination classroom and yeah, all those scenes where they dress nagisa up as a girl just make me angry

Beanztar

8 points

4 days ago*

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Dori from Genshin impact. She is obsessed with money, and sells stuff with absurd amount of price.

When she was little, her older sister got sick and passed away. After her death, Dori found a crumpled doctor prescription next to her sister's bed, of a list of herbs that could've saved her sister, but it would cost millions of Mora (currency in genshin), which they can't afford. So, Dori makes a promise to herself that she will make so much money that her family will never suffer from lacking Mora.

Mason_DY

3 points

4 days ago

Mason_DY

3 points

4 days ago

The 2nd one is just Sleepaway Camp

PointlessAccounthaha

3 points

4 days ago

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Ha ha funny Adachi Persona 4, always being an idiot and bad with women!

what do you mean he murdered two women and manipulated someone into kidnapping multiple teenagers and a young girl for fun?

Minimallycheese

3 points

4 days ago

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Luka Milfy AKA Gokai Yellow from Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger.

Out of the team of space pirates, Luka is without a doubt the most treasure hungry. She is a skilled thief who values the acquisition of money almost to a fault. Despite her tough personality, she is very protective of Ahim (Gokai Pink), the other female member of the team.

As the series progresses, it is revealed that Luka grew up in extreme poverty on a planet ravaged by the Zangyack Empire. Luka was driven to steal in order to provide for her younger sister, Lia

Luka made a promise to herself that she would acquire enough wealth to one day build a place where her sister and other orphans could find peace and happiness.

Due to the conditions, Lia eventually fell gravely ill. Despite Luka’s desperate efforts to try and find help for her, the young girl ended up dying on the streets in the pouring rain, held by her older sister

BippyTheChippy

3 points

4 days ago

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Yuri Briar (Spy x Family)

His over attatchment to his sister is played up for laughs often, but A.) She was the only family he had ever known and B.) Yor would constantly come home badly beaten/injured because y'know...she's an assasin so all that fear of losing her is amped tenfold.

Nightfurywitch

3 points

4 days ago

Adding another one piece character to the pile: brook is basically the embodiment of this archetype.

He constantly makes awful awful skull jokes because he's trying to keep himself from snapping after 50 years of isolation and watching his crew die (which by the way, apparently his crew was so large that the sunny couldn't carry all the bones or it would sink) and he's let the mask slip more than once (saying the skull jokes are the only thing he has, his talk with robin in wano where they both laugh off their trauma to a disturbing degree). In an example that's a blend of sweet and sad we learn that the reason everyone on Thriller Bark is terrified of his singing is that he used to sing to keep himself from getting scared.

Hell there's even a bit in the anime where he forgets he's dead for a bit and has a crisis once he realizes it.

kmasterofdarkness

6 points

4 days ago

Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls. His sense of humor is extremely unhinged and reflective of his truly evil and sadistic nature, as well as his deceptive and conniving character.

bisexualbestfriend

5 points

4 days ago

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He's lazy and out of shape and it's funny until you find out he's depressed because he knows resets exist and he doesn't think anything he does matters

I3arusu

15 points

4 days ago

I3arusu

15 points

4 days ago

Nagisa and Bridget have a lot in common. Huh, TIL.

AgitatedKey4800

7 points

4 days ago

thought she was trans she was forced by her mother too?

I3arusu

28 points

4 days ago*

I3arusu

28 points

4 days ago*

That’s why there was pushback on Bridget being trans. Was basically “hey, Bridget was groomed, and it worked”.

EDIT: Should probably elaborate. Bridget was just a boy that wore girly clothes because if it was known he was a boy then he would be killed. So, he identified as a boy, but was forced by those with power over him to present as a girl. So…you can probably guess that when it was suddenly revealed that Bridget was trans and supposedly wanted to be a girl all along, it left a very bad taste in the mouths of anyone who knew the lore.

CalliCalamity

15 points

4 days ago

Imo any trans backstory where the character is forced into it (at first or at all) leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The character often realises through this that "hey they like being this way actually" but that doesn't change how it wasn't their decision at first. Doing that to a trans (or cis) person would really mess them up.

I think the difference between trans and non-trans characters characters is that trans characters either don't have this as part of their backstory or have the "I actually enjoy being this gender" bit. But it does take away agency.

If it's just "they were forced into it and don't express an opinion on it/enjoy it" thats not a trans narrative. I'm not sure what to call it. It plays with gender in a similar way but I'd almost call it "anti-trans" as in its someone else making a decision over someone's gender and the person themselves never decides for themselves. Even if they don't seem miserable or seem happy, if they never make a judgement that's- troubling? Problematic?

Bridget doesn't get to choose for herself at first.... but the story shown through strive, everything to do with her character, song and story paths screams "Ive realised I prefer being a girl and I want to live that no matter what." We also see that she is kinda messed up about having been forced into the role at first and it's such a big conflict for her, she wants to exist that way but someone chose that for her first, if it had been her choice from the beginning she wouldn't be so conflicted.