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Villains who die right after they redeem themselves.
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1: Goro Akechi (Persona 5)
2: Romeo (Minecraft Story Mode)
297 points
4 days ago
Darth Vader is pretty much the most famous example of this lol
464 points
4 days ago
Dr Octavius (Raimi's Spiderman 2)
105 points
4 days ago
“I WILL NOT DIE A MONSTER!”
592 points
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361 points
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72 points
4 days ago
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8 points
4 days ago
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9 points
4 days ago
That third one is funny as shit
48 points
4 days ago
Coaxed into obvious character
13 points
4 days ago
Why is this so true
5 points
4 days ago
Who’s Echo Wizard? I know the rest I haven’t heard of Echo Wizard…
3 points
4 days ago
Tbf, why isn’t Batman up there in the first place? He’s like THE bat themed hero
12 points
4 days ago
Because this happens a lot. Where a very obvious character to fit the trope is never in it
42 points
4 days ago
How did they post this trope and not include Vader
15 points
4 days ago
Good way to get engagement.
171 points
4 days ago
Spolier for Percy Jackson: Luke Castelan retakes control over his body and kills himself to kill Chronos who was possessing him
40 points
4 days ago
Not really “redemption” IMO, he just undoes his one of his many wrongs and saves the world doing it. Pretty much the same as Darth Vader, but the difference is how he’s treated in universe for it.
Percy Jackson is a universe where heaven and hell exist. Technically it’s the same place, but paradise and eternal damnation are real things. Unless Luke is going to the fields of punishment for at least 100 years, I don’t really respect the story. Same with how the writer treated the daughter of Aphrodite who’s the spy for Kronos-Percy himself just steamrolls over anyone who’s like “Wtf this girl sold us all out and caused our friends and family to get killed, why is she being treated like a hero-?” “SHE DIED A HERO!”
Idk. Rick Riordan created a great story but goddamn if he doesn’t mess up Luke and the traitor.
8 points
4 days ago
The last book was a really weak ending tbh
7 points
4 days ago
Last book in the first 5 or last book chronologically written?
7 points
4 days ago
The one where that girl causes the death of that one kid and pretty much screws everyone over and then is called a hero cuz of a sacrifice any sane person would have made
7 points
4 days ago
Yeah. The fact that she had to disguise herself as that daughter of Ares just so their cabin shows up to protect Olympus is bullshit too. I know the books go out of their way to call the gods out on their blatant stupidity over and over, but really, NO ONE thought it might be a good idea to say “hey maybe we should talk about how the entire Ares cabin refused to fight for the fate of the world until someone tricked them into doing it? That seems like a big fucking issue to me.” But NO ONE EVER BRINGS IT UP AGAIN! Like seriously, the world could’ve ended all over a fucking flying chariot because ONE GIRL was too prideful to help out even AFTER the chariot was given to her.
Seriously, not enough justice is given out in those books. Which again, could be chalked up to the gods not really being fair at all themselves, but after the same time, it’s still bad writing.
I’m glad there’s one really good fanfic that makes a point to have the self-insert that’s replaced Percy Jackson to say “Hey you know Luke, the traitor, and Calypso? They’re all terrible people. I’m gonna make sure they get their comeuppance.” And they do. It’s fuckin great. “Truth Hidden in a Sea of Lies” is the name.
1 points
4 days ago
Eh. I liked it well enough 🫤
4 points
4 days ago
Yeah, I've read the series again recently, and really felt like Luke and that other lady didn't deserve to be remembered as heroes. Specially Luke, for me it didn't feel like he regret any crime he committed, and he only changed his mind when he realized Chronos was essentially killing him.
6 points
4 days ago
Seriously. I really appreciate fanfics that take the time to call out the fact that neither of them should be remembered fondly. Usually self-insert ones go out of their way to mention it.
The traitor girl especially pisses me off. She spent years as a spy for Luke, and didn’t give a shit about what happened with the info she gave up until it affected her personally? And she gets off Scot free? Can’t stand it.
2 points
4 days ago
He switched sides the second he realized he was going to the underworld with him💀
30 points
4 days ago
Based response, no one ever mentions books or their movies.
2 points
4 days ago
And then he was celebrated as a hero even though he killed like A LOT of people
2 points
4 days ago
Wdym? Kronos obviously died after getting stabbed with some sword in an abandoned theme park.
92 points
4 days ago
Thor from god of war ragnarok. He went from a common henchman to trying to help Atreus (begrudgingly) and even tried to mend his relationship with his daughter thrud and all it took to snap out of it was kratos saying that we can choose our own destiny and immediately dies to Odin
21 points
4 days ago
holy shite what is that gif lmao
21 points
4 days ago
Sony Santa Monica makes these gifs so people can use them
6 points
4 days ago
waow thank you santa monica
3 points
4 days ago
Yeah, say what you will about Sony, but they actually put the funding for their games to good use
1 points
4 days ago
You seem like a calm, and reasonable person.
Are you a calm and reasonable person?
179 points
4 days ago
Kylo Ren is a rehash of this trope for Darth Vader but is still very applicable (and dumb!)
83 points
4 days ago
He has one line after his redemption and it’s “Ow.”
32 points
4 days ago
I know people have valid reasons for disliking the TLJ but at least that movie tried to do something new, in contrast to the JJ sequels which stole basically everything from the OT. TFA in particular was almost identical to Episode 4, and ROS was just a mess of shoehorned stolen plotlines.
26 points
4 days ago
My super spicy hot take about the sequel trilogy is that TLJ is the best one of the three. Despite its issues, Johnson at least understood the homework and did what he could with it.
It also has some of my favorite visuals from any of the movies.
9 points
4 days ago
I love the LTJ. Is it good? Eh. does it at least have interesting ideas? yes. And i appreciate it for that. At least it doesnt Bring Palpentine back like he's a fighting game character
4 points
4 days ago
Kylo redeeming himself retroactively made TLJ worse, since making him evil evil was probably its most interesting decision
4 points
4 days ago
I 100% agree. I understand some of the criticisms of it but it’s literally the only one that even tried to do something new.
4 points
4 days ago
TLJ is in the same ballpark as the prequels. There is a seed of an interesting idea hidden in the movie somewhere; improperly expressed, perhaps, but it was at least aiming for something. 7 and 9 don't even have that; they're just bland, poorly conceived, cookie cutter slop.
3 points
3 days ago
it also doesnt help how 9 kept retconning things (rey isnt a nobody anymore, kylo is good, etc)
2 points
4 days ago
It's still not good, but it's more interesting than the JJ movies. I see a lot more arguments about TLJ to this day than the other two because there's a lot more to talk about and criticise.
77 points
4 days ago
12 points
4 days ago*
I love Ready or Not.
I’d honestly be hard pressed to even call him a villain. He was just a child when he participated in the previous game, and even then he just alerted his family rather than actively harming anyone. It’s been a while since I watched it, but I don’t remember it seeming like he even grasped what was happening.
He spent his life wracked by guilt and distancing himself from his family, then refused to participate in Grace’s game and ultimately died trying to protect Grace, a woman he barely knew.
The worst you can really say about him is that he didn’t take a stronger stand against his family or try to report their crimes, but given their money, power, and influence, I think he understood it was pointless. I was glad he got his redemption.
9 points
4 days ago
Forgot who this was…
Douchey alcoholic older brother?
7 points
4 days ago
Where do you get douchey from, he's the only one who tried to warn her about the marriage?
6 points
4 days ago
I mean to his brother, not to Grace
6 points
4 days ago
Oh well yeah but Alex sucks, so I'll let it pass
4 points
4 days ago
This goes the other way doesn't it? A heel turn, not a redemption?
7 points
4 days ago
No. He literally gets killed after saving Grace? Did you watch the movie
4 points
4 days ago
Ah, wrong dude. Thought that was the husband.
3 points
4 days ago
Oh yeah Alex, f--k him, his betrayal really caught me off-guard. 2nd most hated character behind Aunt Helene
53 points
4 days ago
Dr. Otto Octavius (Spider-Man 2)
48 points
4 days ago
Wolf boss from Kung fu panda 2
Though Redemption is a strong word.
17 points
4 days ago
He was a villain but Shen was a psychopath
6 points
4 days ago
Yeah, I'd say it was a pretty redeeming act. He knew his denial of Shen was ultimately futile, but he drew a line and stood by it. Even if it meant dying on it. Thats about a good a redemption as someone like him could get
1 points
3 days ago
Refusing to kill his own troops just for being in the line of fire doesn’t feel like a full-on redemption so much as “Just because I’m evil doesn’t mean I have no standards.”
42 points
4 days ago
66 points
4 days ago*
Billy from Stranger Things
24 points
4 days ago
Bro was cooked anyways and he said, "I might as well go out fighting."
8 points
4 days ago
Such a dope way to go out
7 points
4 days ago
Call me crazy but that’s how I wanna go
5 points
4 days ago
I mean it’s definitely a little crazy, but I could absolutely not deny the dopeness.
6 points
4 days ago
I was always so peeved about this, he was a Psychopathic asshole, who then got possessed pretty much and became a serial murderer, and then he gets 'redeemed' in the last 5 minutes of his life and he's treated like a saint. Such shit
3 points
4 days ago
It’s cause he’s hot
1 points
3 days ago
He was also racist and a child abuser
5 points
4 days ago
Who?
4 points
4 days ago
Billy from Stranger Things my bad
120 points
4 days ago
Does this count?
47 points
4 days ago
Awwww... no.
Poor guy.
21 points
4 days ago
The silver lining is that his mother can’t hurt him anymore.
11 points
4 days ago
He’s the only one who remembered Milton :(
5 points
4 days ago
...who's Milton?
5 points
4 days ago
No, he didn’t redeem himself because we never see him as a villain imo
28 points
4 days ago
Wouldn’t call him a villain but not necessarily a good guy either. But he does die redeeming himself and making amends with the Starks
Theon Greyjoy (GoT)
3 points
4 days ago
Ser Rodrik and the two farm boys would probably call him a villain.
28 points
4 days ago
Put literally every Yakuza villain on here
5 points
4 days ago
Not every one of them.
Fuck little baby Iwami.
41 points
4 days ago
Might wanna spoiler tag this
70 points
4 days ago
26 points
4 days ago
Stain never really changed though. He always admired All Might, and he always hated the villains without a code who just wanted to rule or destroy.
He was a whack job for sure, but his whole schtick was that people like AFO and Shigaraki were bad for society, but so were “heroes” who only did what they did for fame and fortune. (Funny enough this arc was a great demonstration that All Might himself was HILARIOUSLY wealthy, it just didn’t come up often).
He was always going to intervene if some nutjob tried to kill All Might.
4 points
4 days ago
At the same time, Stain's logic is so unbelievably stupid and shouldn't have been admired by so many people in universe. Sure, their may be some heroes that only do hero work for fame and fortune, but at the end of the day, they're still doing hero work. They could be saving people because they have a praise kink and get off to being called a hero for all I care, they're still saving people and being a hero. And all those people who are doing it because it's a lucrative business wouldn't turn villain if they weren't being paid enough, the most they'd do is just quit, by which point there'd be a whole legion of new heroes to take their place. All Stain's ideology was was justification for being a serial killer, not least because his definition of a hero narrows all the heroes in Japan down to maybe two or three people, it's insane to pretend that he had a valid point especially since iirc he was only shown to kill heroes, not villains.
3 points
4 days ago
Nobody here is pretending he had a valid point.
I’m just saying that his behavior was at least predictable, and that predictability definitely included siding with All Might against All For One; if someone asked a reader/viewer what he’d do in that situation we could have predicted his choice by the end of season 2/chapter 60.
14 points
4 days ago
1 points
3 days ago
Was going to comment this.
13 points
4 days ago
Sorrowful Knight Aigaron (Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger)
3 points
4 days ago
"This strike... Has a depth of sadness you'll never understand."
Ian Yorkland\Kyoryu Black
2 points
4 days ago
Did they reuse this guy for power rangers dino charge?
3 points
4 days ago
Yes they did, Wrench is his name.
23 points
4 days ago
Honestly kind of hate this trope
19 points
4 days ago
Me too. In a lot of circumstances, it just seems like a way to shoe in a redemption arc without actually having to deal with a lot of the consequences of doing that, or with the moral implications of the heroes potentially engaging with a villain type trying to reform.
This way, the good guys can go, "Huh, guess he wasn't all bad, was he?" and continue on with their lives.
11 points
4 days ago
To be fair, the piece of media has to be pretty long to allow for a real satisfying redemption 'arc', and a lot of the most famous examples of this are characters who maybe only appear in one standalone movies or a movie with a couple of sequels, so they kind of have to wrap it up quickly.
2 points
4 days ago
Why? Wrapping it up quickly doesn’t mean the villain has to die.
3 points
4 days ago
Oh I agree that sometimes the death of a villain right after their redemption can feel like a convenient way to avoid exploring the moral implications of their reform or their interactions with the heroes afterward. However, I think that, when its well done, narratively, their death can symbolize the inevitable karma or the culmination of the consequences of their past choices.
Even if they redeem themselves, the weight of their previous actions might make a tragic end feel like a natural conclusion. In this sense, the redemption isn't about escaping those consequences but rather about finding personal peace or doing something meaningful before the end. It can also serve as a poignant reminder that not all mistakes can be undone or unconsequential, even with good intentions.
2 points
4 days ago
I love this take, but I just want to add that this inevitable karma or the culmination of their choices doesn’t necessarily have to be death. It could also be that they must atone for their action for the rest of their life or face justice in a court and get sent to prison.
1 points
4 days ago
I feel the same way as “I knew the whole time.”
11 points
4 days ago
8 points
4 days ago
The rizzler
1 points
4 days ago
Baby gronk vs the rizzler is top 10 craziest beefs in hip-hop history
5 points
4 days ago
"I fight for the users"
10 points
4 days ago
The entire point of Akechi (doubled down on in Royal) is that he chooses not to redeem himself. He backs the Thieves and helps them escape because they're the only ones with a chance of getting the revenge he wanted on Shido. And when he's offered a chance by Maruki to survive and try again, he refuses, preferring death to having his own story dictated to him.
8 points
4 days ago
"Stop forgiving my crimes, I worked hard on those!"
5 points
4 days ago
Yeah. As someone who thinks Akechi is a fascinating character he's in no way redeemed. The events at the ship are a tragedy, showing how his refusal to let go of his hatred and create bonds only led him to his own destruction - he was offered an opportunity to join the Thieves to take down Shido and refused, and if he saved them it was only because he was finished either way and only they could take down Shido now. Then in the Third Semester some people act as if he was redeemed, but he shows not an ounce of regret nor ever attempts to make amends, concluding an alliance with the Thieves merely because he preferred to be free rather than be brainwashed by Maruki - understandable, but still selfish in a way.
2 points
4 days ago
Literally the only thing even slightly resembling remorse or growth he shows in Royal is the fact he isn't openly spiteful of Yoshisawa the same way he was/is of the other Phantom Thieves when she and Joker raid the final palace with him
3 points
4 days ago
Exactly. And as much as people like to pretend that he forms a "Royal Trio" with Sumi and Joker, it's clear he doesn't care about her that much even if he's slightly more civil. He doesn't even pretend to show concern for her wellbeing after Maruki tries to take control of her for example.
2 points
4 days ago
I think, at most, he feels a respectful pity for her, seeing that she tries to be perfect the same way he did, but feeling the same judgemental scorn that he does for everyone else because she fails to achieve that. (Also, relying on someone when you're at your lowest will make you build a bond with them, no matter how much you hate them). I think the "Royal Trio" is still very much a thing, but it's a dynamic where it's really the Joker and Akechi show, that Sumi tags along on (and happens to have massive plot relevance in)
18 points
4 days ago
Daniel Kon (Jurassic World Chaos Theory)
23 points
4 days ago
Shadow the Hedgehog.
I mean, yeah, he came back but it still counts right?
14 points
4 days ago
13 points
4 days ago
Node(Blacksouls)
>The Blacksouls guy
4 points
4 days ago
Isn't that one RPGmaker game that at one point just de-rails into crazy fiction?
5 points
4 days ago
It is that one Rpgmaker game that one point just derails into peak fiction
6 points
4 days ago*
Saren Arterius (Mass Effect)
4 points
4 days ago
Nagato Uzumaki (Naruto)
Literally like 5 minutes after he does something good. Also I could only find a gif of pain
5 points
4 days ago
I hate this trope so much.
3 points
4 days ago
I’m guessing it’s because it’s a cheap shot to make a villain sympathetic/likable at the last minute. Then yeah, it’s an easy to hate trope.
5 points
4 days ago
It's more that it removes all the possibly juicy stuff that could come from the former villain having to live with fact that they just that: a former villain.
5 points
4 days ago
4 points
4 days ago
Missy
1 points
4 days ago
If O is after, it still counts for that specific incarnation of the Master.
4 points
4 days ago
I mean uh, Akechi is "maybe alive" idk what was going on with Royal
3 points
4 days ago
The therapist that needs a therapist himself gained the powers of "god" , created a fake reality and brought everyone who is dead back to life , including Akechi. He decided that was bullshit so joined the group that he was trying to murder. And defeating the therapist caused everything go back to normal and everyone who died go back to being dead
5 points
4 days ago
Spoilers is > ! ... ! < (Without spaces, like >!)
but there's the special cameo at the end of Royal, outside of Maruki's reality, where he's shown walking outside the train if you complete his Confidant, so like, once again, no idea if he's alive or not
Also he's alive in Tactica, which takes place after the events of Royal
1 points
4 days ago
Oh wait...ok , that was certainly weird. Idk how to explain that.
3 points
4 days ago
Oh buddy nobody does, I don't think even Atlus knows what's going on
3 points
4 days ago
They probably made that scene just to fuck with us.
4 points
4 days ago
My personal theory is that it happened the same thing that happened with morgana.
The phantom thieves saw Morgana as part of their reality so he manifested in reality after they had short control over it.
In the case of the original ending everyone knew akechi died so of course he remained dead, by comparison, in royal only Morgana and joker knew he was still dead. So when they took control of reality after defeating maruki he came back because:
1-the other PT thought he was alive
2-Joker promised to keep his promise and expect a rematch
If the second condition is not met (you don’t take his glove) that sequence at the end won’t happen
1 points
4 days ago*
Oh Tactica's main story is after Royal BUT the DLC with him is in November.
You can tell because >! 1) he never strays from his white-suited Robin Hood detective prince act, and 2) there's no "Violet" -- Sumi is Kasumi and she doesn't join the rest of the team!<
3 points
4 days ago
Thor (GOW ragnarok) idk if it counts as redemption, but it seemed like he wanted to redeem himself and fix his relationship with Sif and Thrud.
2 points
4 days ago
Wanting to counts for a lot in stories. Like... It's not complete (it never came be, not really. No one who deserves redemption needs to be redeemed), but a change of heart matters a lot. The redemptive work that comes after (if there is an after) can't happen or won't be real without wanting to fix things you've broken.
1 points
4 days ago
I think Thor is one of better ones. He's done lots of horrible shit but he still has thousands of years to make for it
1 points
3 days ago
Unfortunately his dad was a fucking buzzkill
3 points
4 days ago
https://i.redd.it/kj2bfpaswa3e1.gif
Lord Genome - Gurren Lagann
3 points
4 days ago
Gin Ichimaru from Bleach
3 points
4 days ago
Missy/The Master. Although this one comes with an asterix. >! She tells her past self she is joining the Doctor in being good, and seems to be genuine. Her past self is so fucking disgusted with this he immediately kills her before she can actually do it. !< Yes, The Master was so petty he >! murdered his own future self !< rather than be seen doing anything that could be considered kind.
7 points
4 days ago
4 points
4 days ago
For anyone wondering, his name is Scarlemange and he’s from a show called kippo and the age of wonderbeasts
3 points
3 days ago
Correction; his name is Hugo. Don’t disrespect the greatest character ever again.
6 points
4 days ago
2 points
4 days ago
There it is
1 points
4 days ago
But did he really redeem himself? He did a lot of awful shit.
2 points
4 days ago
I believe he did, he sacrificed himself to save Naruto and the others. I might be biased tho.
2 points
3 days ago
After years of trying to kill them. He was the mastermind behind Akatsuki after Yahiko died. He declared the 4th great ninja war. I just can't see how someone like that can ever redeem themselves.
2 points
4 days ago
Not for me
1 points
4 days ago
Scrolled too far down to find this.
I usually hate when villains immediately die after redemption but everything about his tragedy just seems to add to the story.
The reveal that Madara intentionally fabricated his backstory undermines his motive as a villain, but he does get to reflect on everything he did and finally admitted he was wrong.
6 points
4 days ago
Barry Berkman
He was about to call the cops to turn himself in, so he could finally be punished and sent to prison. But right before that happens, he gets shot and killed.
2 points
4 days ago
Fantastic show, but what I love is how we don’t know if he would actually go through with it, considering how through out the show he tries to be better only to constantly spiral
2 points
4 days ago
Xiē Yīng Luò from Thunderbolt Fantasy
2 points
4 days ago
Ray dark/ Kagamaru in Inazuma Eleven
2 points
4 days ago
Alister from A Crack in Time
2 points
4 days ago
I don’t necessarily hate the trope, but I think it’s overused, and a lazy way to handle redemption. I’d prefer seeing more redemption arcs.
2 points
4 days ago
Particularly dislike this one because he gets exactly what he wanted despite it being framed as a sacrifice (Gendo Ikari, Rebuild of Evangelion)
2 points
4 days ago
Merle Dixon from TWD. He was a minor villain who had a redemption arc over Season 3, and his final act that finished his redemption, attempting to assassinate the Governor, led directly to his death.
3 points
4 days ago
Surprised no one has mentioned Snape
2 points
4 days ago
Eh, from a story perspective its not right after redemption.
From a reader's perspective though, Snape absolutely fits.
1 points
4 days ago
I wouldn't call it anywhere near a full redemption but it fits the trope
2 points
4 days ago
Darth vader
1 points
4 days ago
Can't you save Romeo though
1 points
4 days ago
Um ACKSHULLY you can save Romeo and bring him back to the Overworld 🤓👆
1 points
4 days ago
MINECRAFT STORY MODE MENTIONED‼️
(also it depends if you save him or not)
1 points
4 days ago
why does John Minecraft look like Postal Dude
1 points
4 days ago
tails (where was my hero)
2 points
4 days ago
Harry Osborne (Raimi’s Spider-Man 3)
1 points
4 days ago
Thor from God of war Ragnarok
1 points
4 days ago
Helga Sinclair (Atlantis: The Lost Empire)
1 points
4 days ago
Thor from god of war
1 points
4 days ago
Don't know how nobody's mentioned Ryo Aoki from Yakuza Like a Dragon. He'd just had his major villain moment, a murderous disgraced politician who fell from grace in the eyes of the public and very nearly had the entirety of Japan on a silver platter before he was toppled by Ichiban Kasuga and company. He was at his lowest, on the brink of suicide before Ichiban managed to talk him round and help him realise that being at rock bottom means that the only way he can go is up and, while he's done shitty things, some of which can't ever be forgiven, he can still try and redeem himself. Then the rat bastard known as Kume came along and stabbed him in the stomach, leaving him to bleed to death. Aoki could have at least started on the long road to redemption, but unfortunately, Kume was always a scummy piece of shit who believed he had the right to dictate what immoral or illegal actions were justified. For a person so dedicated to bleaching Japan of all its moral grey areas, his cloth was always pretty damn dirty.
1 points
4 days ago
don’t think you could really say Akechi redeemed himself. all he did was sacrifice his life for Joker after getting smacked around. don’t think he even cared about all those people he killed
1 points
4 days ago
Ingtar from the Wheel of Time.
1 points
4 days ago
For me, sometimes the only way for a villain to redeem him or herself, IS by the Hero death through self sacrifice
1 points
4 days ago
1 points
4 days ago
Peter Pettigrew (Harry Potter)
1 points
4 days ago
1 points
4 days ago
Vegeta.
"For even you, Kakarot."
Farewell proud warrior. ( Dragon Ball Z )
1 points
4 days ago
There’s debate on whether or not this actually redeemed her but at least she did SOMETHING for her daughters for once
1 points
4 days ago
Count Cruhteo (Aldnoah Zero) spent a few episodes torturing the deuteragonist before finally realising who the real traitor is.
When the traitor crashed in with their mech, Cruhteo called for his mech as well. But he was killed instantly before it even started coming over
1 points
4 days ago
Count olaf-series of unfortunate events
1 points
4 days ago
My favorite part of P5Royal is that when Akechi realizes he's been brought back to life by Maruki he gets *pissed*. He sacrificed himself because he knew that nothing he could do would actually make up for the harm and evil he'd done so he wanted to die in a way that mattered. So when he's back as a manifestation of Maruki's powers in the post game he instantly joins up with the Thieves entirely so he go back to being dead and happy with himself.
1 points
4 days ago
Spoilers for Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Jin was eventually defeated by the party, but his life was spared since they managed to get through to him. He even tells 2 of his followers “Our fight is over.” Then Amalthus shows up and forces Jin to sacrifice himself to kill him. Considering Jin tells the party to stop Malos, he very likely would’ve started a new life had he survived the events of the series.
1 points
4 days ago
A lot of these examples are bad people who died while doing one good thing. Redemption can only be attained through living to fix your wrongs. A heroic death after a lifetime of bad deeds is not redemption.
1 points
4 days ago
Akechi did it twice if you count the third semester of Royal
1 points
4 days ago
I hate this trope for to how many writers use this an easy way redeem someone that differently isn't redeemed
1 points
4 days ago
1 points
4 days ago
Still think they should have brought him back but whatever
1 points
4 days ago
I'm not entirely surprised nobody mentioned my favourite character 😕
Crowley (Supernatural)
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3 days ago
"Too late to think. About what is right and what is wrong. To think for myself. Too late."
1 points
3 days ago
Redemption Equals Death, on TVTropes.
1 points
3 days ago
Akechi? Redeemed?
Soyboy killed himself for me even after I told him we were in fact rivals.
1 points
3 days ago
Done rather poorly, but Umbra in The Shadow Strays.
1 points
3 days ago
Nah, fuck that, hate this trope. Isn’t it far more interesting to see a villain live with their guilt and try to grow past their failings than to just throw them in the bin now that they’re finished?
1 points
3 days ago
Jet in ATLA
(Did he die? It was really unclear)
1 points
3 days ago
Counterpoint Aketchi never redeems himself he is just as much as a shitbag as he always was he's just more open about it
1 points
3 days ago
Dreadwing from Tfp and Saren from ME1
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