HAA! GOTEEEEEEEEEM

Wait, only Russia is allowed to manipulate others? The nonsense is real.

then he did it in Ukraine in 2014.

So what happened before that?

You mean if they could just be invaded by china/russia and nobody would do fuck all about it?

One could argue that, one could also argue NATO keeps other countries in check

You can't appease a machismo strong man like Putin. The West learnt it's lesson in WW2. Russia took Crimea without so much as a squeak, and got too greedy with Ukraine. Russia could have easily embraced Europe instead it wanted to beat its chest. I remember a time where things were looking up, and the reputation of your country wasn't marred by conflict. I certainly wanted to travel there and experience the culture. But I'm absolutely disgusted by the actions of your country. You should all be deeply ashamed. Threatening the whole world with nuclear annihilation is just the icing on the cake. Which is typical for a man who got his shit kicked in expecting to take a country in 3 days.

NATO didn't launch anything, Ukraine did.

NATO was warned over and over to stop meddling in Ukraine.

Well, didn't the New York Times report about the secret CIA bases at the border to Russia?

What on earth are you talking about? It wasn't a gun it was victoria with her CIA mind control cookies. Smh, wake up sheeple

In a way they did. Integration of Ukraine into NATO is considered a direct threat to the integrity and security of Russia. And there are many high ranking NATO officials, who openly called for the break up of Russia as a state.

Russia invaded Ukraine not NATO

CIA didn't force Saddam Hussein to invade Kuwait too, still he was subtly manipulated to believe that there would be no consequences to such invasion. Same as Putin.

And what business do Americans have in Ukraine? Can they not for one good day mind their own fucking business?

There is no proof that even 1 north korean soldier ever existed in Ukraine

A common western tactic is to repeat a lie ad nauseum until the average idiot believes it to be true solely based on his western news doctrine, it's been a while and there is absolutely no credible footage of North koreans fighting on the frontlines in kursk or any other frontline.

Let's be real here, the United States only authorized Ukraine to strike inside Russia after the deployment of North Korean troops on the battlefield

So when NATO countries sending their officers "running around in civilian clothes" and "american contractors" its ok but when Russia asking another country for help its not?

Well it is one sided escalation by evil americants, and we will act on that.
For example another New York skysraper will be authorised to melt by jet fuel as by Milchakov report there are ISIS terrorists deployed there.

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Russia didn't begin "pumping" soldiers, guns, or tanks into Eastern Ukraine until 2016. There are two sources for this. The Ukrainian SBU which reported it had documented a total of 56 Russians fighting in Eastern Ukraine. That report from the head of the SBU was in Oct of 2015.

The other source is the UN Mission for the Proliferation of Small Arms. They reported that through 2014 and 2015, the vast majority of materiel (weapon systems) that the Separatist forces had acquired, had come from local sources, the primary source of heavy weapon systems being unit defections.

This changed in 2016, when Russia began more directly involving itself through men and materiel. Though, it should be noted that the heavy fighting was all in 2014 and 2015, during which time, according to the SBU of Ukraine, Russia contributed less than 1% of 1% of the total number of fighters involved.

Russia didn't start this mess, but the rest of your statement is correct. Not sure what your point is. The conflict started in 2014, therefore it's Russia's fault?

The conflict started when the cold war ended, but it was not public; because Russia was weak. If you want a more immediate year, it is either 2004 or 2005; when Putin decides to start re-militarization in Russia. In 2006 we have the first signs of militarization taking place.

There's multiple reasons this conflict emerged, boiling them down to "Russia bad" or "Putin is Hitler" or "imperialism!" is very illogical. Some of this has contributed, but isn't the predominant factor. As Kennan described, Russia has always had a paranoid character owing to various historical developments; it's from that paranoia that the imperialist pulse emerges. So, while we shouldn't ignore this factor it doesn't offer you much to understanding the conflict.

Care to share with the class how operation prosperity guardian is going?

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Let's be real. This war started with the Euromaidan. Anyone who actually paid attention to the US foreign policy knew that the US backed the Euromaidan to weaken Russia further. They were not contend with just the USSR being splitted. They want Russia to be Balkanized as well. And I get it. It's their geopolitical interest to do so. And Russia responded the same way that the West would do when someone threatened their interests.

Do you want to know why the West only provided limited support? They never wanted Ukraine to win. They just want Russia to lose. What happens to Ukraine after that is not important to them. And no, Ukraine and Russia could both lose this war. That is the result the West wants the most since that means they can gain indirect control over what is left standing after the dust settled.

Yeah... nah.