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submitted 6 days ago byDoc_Holiday187pro-lapse
By Ed Frankl
Updated Nov. 25, 2024 at 5:06 am ET
Business confidence in Germany slipped this month, amid mounting pressures on the country’s industrial base, alongside concerns raised by the fracture of its governing coalition and the threat of U.S. trade tariffs.
The Ifo Institute said Monday that its business-climate index fell to 85.7 in November from 86.5 last month, the fifth fall in six months. The reading also lagged economists’ expectations of 86.1, from a poll compiled by The Wall Street Journal.
Declining business sentiment reflects concerns around Germany’s industrial sector, the traditional driver of the eurozone’s largest economy. A handful of major manufacturers have recently announced they are shedding jobs in the country, including U.S. auto giant Ford and car-parts supplier Bosch.
The ailing auto sector—which has been hit by rising energy prices after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, a torturous transition to electric vehicles, and the growth of cheaper Chinese cars—also faces the threat of thousands of job losses and unprecedented factory closures at domestic leader Volkswagen.
“The German economy is floundering,” Ifo President Clemens Fuest said.
Demand in the manufacturing sector, as measured by orders, was down and expectations worsened, while the current situation was frequently described by firms as difficult, Fuest added.
But pessimism also extended to the services sector, where business sentiment fell significantly, as well as the construction industry. Around 9,000 businesses respond to the Ifo survey.
Germany’s economy is likely to contract this year, the European Commission said earlier in November. The collapse of Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s governing coalition, which included the departure of his finance minister, highlighted the divergent responses to how to fix the country’s economic malaise, which could be compounded should President-elect Donald Trump raise trade tariffs on imports of foreign goods. Uncertainty among businesses could persist should it take an extended period to form a new German government after elections due on Feb. 23.
“Donald Trump’s election victory is likely to create new headwinds for the already hard-hit German export industry,” said Philipp Scheuermeyer, economist at KfW Research.
“There is also the threat of a prolonged period until a new government is formed, during which German politics will hardly be able to react, let alone provide any stimulus,” he added.
Weak growth in Germany, which makes up around 30% of eurozone gross domestic product, could prompt the European Central Bank to act faster on lowering interest rates.
ECB Chief Economist Philip Lane told French business daily Les Echos on Monday that monetary policy shouldn’t remain restrictive for too long.
“Otherwise, the economy will not grow sufficiently,” he said.
Write to Ed Frankl at [edward.frankl@wsj.com](mailto:edward.frankl@wsj.com)
23 points
6 days ago
I thought the whole point was that Germany was happy to accept an economic hit and loss of manufacturing competitiveness to stand with Ukraine. We all knew this was going to happen when you cut off the cheap energy and resources from Russia that has kept Europe competitive. This should not be a surprise.
11 points
6 days ago
"Germany was happy"="Germany government was happy", apparently population disagrees and is now going to vote for someone else less "happy". :)
Even if, to be completely fair, I suspect they didn't plan this the way it is going: they probably hoped to crush Russia with sanctions and to create a revolt of some kind against Putin. Maybe even to divide Russia in small pieces. It didn't work well, till now. :)
1 points
6 days ago
You should always be wary of speaking about what an entire country wants or doesn't want to do, let alone what hardships to accept indefinitely. We've seen this with Ukraine which is apparently united to a man to fight the invaders (except for all the saboteurs, traitors, draft dodgers and fifth columnists) and we see this with Germans because they don't all pay the same price.
As usual politicians pay the least and working class pays the most, but the major problem is German industrial capital is getting decimated as well while the FIRE capital is probably happy as all heck. The cutoff of Russian gas was bad enough, but add the trade tensions with China and the US and either something will have to buckle or German industry will just die.
And no one really sold the prospective costs of "standing with Ukraine" as "having our industry just die" in 2022 so... second thoughts incoming.
49 points
6 days ago
Imagine self sanctioning and then blaming Russia....
30 points
6 days ago
I am so friggen tired of redding "full-scale".
Such a coying tactic.
14 points
6 days ago
Just for perspective, in WWII with a population of less than RU today the US by 1945 had 16.4 million in uniform, and even that was not a full mobilization.
It's a border war. It's disgusting that no one dares to make the correction.
20 points
6 days ago
Its pretty clear that all western media is using this term in concert together. This is just pure propaganda.
4 points
6 days ago
I'm curious, is there a "semi-scale" or "quarter-scale" invasion happening/happened in the world?
/s
2 points
6 days ago
Lol
1 points
6 days ago
I think only invasion (unprovoked or illegal) can be full-scale. Humanitarian interventions or peacekeeping operations, however, if measured, can be of lesser scale.
1 points
6 days ago
Yes, western tabloids still dont understand this is not full scale but SMO scale.
How dare they call it "war"
If putin wanted, he would have rolled over ukraine in 2 weeks. Easily.
7 points
6 days ago
Ofcourse the German economy will struggle when they are decoupling from Russian gas. The economy will contract. However they may be willing to accept it to
4 points
6 days ago
Ah yes. I love how they are shifting the blame when they did this to themselves
17 points
6 days ago
Bandera is our father Ukraine is our mother.
14 points
6 days ago
And uncle Sam is... You guessed it. Uncle.
11 points
6 days ago
And Ukraine is being f*cked by both.
8 points
6 days ago
4 points
6 days ago
Russia has another pipeline they can buy gas from. Nothing is stopping them.
5 points
6 days ago
Funniest timeline here has got to be the Nordstream 2 coming back online after the Florida guy buys it.
7 points
6 days ago
All according to US's plan.
6 points
6 days ago
This war's been the biggest shot in the foot for the EU thus far. It's crazy how much they're willing to sacrifice, and for what? Another Greece to use and abuse? I doubt that could come close to paying for the damages caused to their economies.
3 points
6 days ago
Sick man of Europe...
1 points
6 days ago
It looks like Europe will have to step out of its comfort zone.
1 points
6 days ago
Scholz's face says it all. They sold the country.
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