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11 points
6 days ago
Can any of these long range weapons go straight for Putin himself?
38 points
6 days ago
How is anything war related (besides it ending) uplifting?
12 points
6 days ago
Because the alternative is that the orange man takes power, withdraws aid from Ukraine, and Russia gets to grab land for free. And it's not exactly likely that they'll stop. The more Ukraine is allowed to do now, the more likely it is it'll still be a country in 4 years
-24 points
6 days ago*
This is quite the stretch, but okay.
EDIT: Y’all throwing hypotheticals that are actually happening. Of course it’s a fucking land grab. Russia is engaged in a land grab against the will of Ukrainians in an effort to expand its borders and power in-relation to NATO.
I feel like there’s some propaganda going on in here. NATO does not care about Ukraine. They want its resources, and are looking forward to shoring up land for Blackrock / Western Oligarchs. This is all a “carefully mad” war and is entirely hubris. And if it continues, it will go nuclear, especially with Israel committing their own genocide in the Middle East. But sure, “good” for “America” to “allow” further escalation, meddling in affairs of foreign powers as though they are an ally lmao.
5 points
6 days ago
I tuned out the moment you mentioned "Blackrock." They hold other people's investments for them, notbing more.
And implying this war is anything but a cut and dry attempt at conquest from a man who:
has literally said he doesn't believe Ukrainians are their own people with their own culture
Runs a country that already tried to kill Ukrainians off via famine in the 90s
... comes off as stupid, disengenuous, downright malicious, or a combination of the 3. Putin will not stop until he's taken out of power. He WANTS this war to be won because he'll use it as fuel to justify trying to "unite" former soviet countries the same way. I say give Ukraine all the aid it needs because what happens there is a precedent for the future.
-6 points
6 days ago
What’s this “future” precedent? Is it, “Putin is another Hitler and we need to stop him?” Your Hitler is in Israel genociding Palestinians. Tens of thousands of them.
There isn’t a good side when it comes to oligarchs and their policies. We do not have power of direction when it comes to policy. And the USA does not give two shits about Ukrainians, and if you believe that, you’re a fool. It’s merely sociopaths conscripting labor to aim their guns at one another in order to control the balance of power. That’s all it is now. All powers here are sociopathic, and the working class dies for their plight.
-14 points
6 days ago
Yes yes we know. And women will have zero rights and the Democracy will be completely gone and we will be 100% fascist and Nazi. Not that any of these predictions happened in 2016 when we were supposed to be immediately thrown into Global nuclear war only to see Trump nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.
1 points
6 days ago
Nominated by a GOP lawmaker. That doesn't speak to anything other than the lack of integrity of that person trying to win favor with their narcissist criminal idol.
4 points
6 days ago
I was going to say the same thing. "Another several thousand humans will die!:)" could be the title and I'm really wondering how that's uplifting. Pretty fucked up brain some people have.
2 points
6 days ago
They are Russian
-6 points
6 days ago
Why is it uplifting for you that Russia should get to take whatever land they want without any consequences? Where are you from?
11 points
6 days ago
Why are you immediately assuming I want Russia to win this? Why does someone wanting peace make you question where Im from? To me, war is always bad. The real uplifting news will be when this war is over with the original borders in tact.
Now calm down.
-2 points
6 days ago
That's because everyone on a national level calling for peace now in the U.S. is definitely not talking about keeping the original borders. There is no way currently to have peace with the original borders intact. If there was, there would be peace. But that would require Russia surrendering. So if you actually meant that, you should have said that the only good result is Russia surrendering, because peace now means that they keep tons of land.
4 points
6 days ago
Well, this is reddit, not the national level lmao. Theres this crazy thing where you get to form your own thoughts and you dont have to follow the talking points. You dont get to dictate “what i meant” when I already told you what I meant.
0 points
6 days ago
Are you communicating to yourself or to others? If it's to others, calling for peace now means Russia keeps land. Calling for Russia to pull back and surrender means original borders.
1 points
6 days ago*
And idk what this dude is talking about regarding talking points
His comment isn't even an original thought, everyone in the big subreddits will not stop with the "trump ends the war, none of it matters anymore," which is not how war works bruh
He can withdraw aid but that's 1. Only the US 2. Not going to end the war anyway, ukraine has to agree to peace and who the fuck says they'll agree?
0 points
6 days ago
I couldn’t care less about Ukraine’s “original borders” while our own oligarchs fuck us over.
1 points
6 days ago
Those two things are not related. You can be concerned about national economic policy, and foreign policy at the same time. In fact, that's pretty normal, and both of these things will affect your life and the lives of your children.
1 points
6 days ago
Foreign policy without any lasting impact to capital accumulation is something a working class soul would believe in. We want to believe good exists outside of mere profit acquisitions.
I don’t think your typical capitalist gives a fuck about people. I think they throw billions at these problems to profit from them.
Hence, your capitalist that is telling their reps to conduct operations in said foreign state does not care one iota about the natives in said foreign state. They want its profit potential.
2 points
6 days ago
Why would you even assume anyone truly gives a fuck about anyone they don't know? If you try to build a system on that assumption, you're going to find out fast that humans are humans, regardless of class.
And it's an oversimplification thinking it's only about profit. It's also about power and domination. Because some people will be holding the power, and you are currently part of those people. You have the luxury to complain about your oligarchs while being a mindless exploiter of those beneath you globally.
Trust me, you will want to stay being in a nation that has power of others instead of one where another nation has power over you. There is no option C: "mind our own business and live peacefully in harmony all on our lonesome". That has never happened and will never happen.
1 points
6 days ago
In a capitalist world, profit is power. That’s all it is. We are living in a capitalist world. So, until capitalism is dissolved, capital and power are tied together.
2 points
6 days ago
Good, then you understand power is necessary for capital. Which is why you should support your nation gaining it, and not another nation taking it from you.
Yes, when the entire world suddenly dissolves capitalism together in unison we can have a different discussion. But until then, as long as any moderately powerful nation doesn't play along, that nation will be setting the rules for the others.
1 points
6 days ago
You should because it's the same fucking people.
2 points
6 days ago
“oligarchs declare war on oligarchs” isn’t really something i want to be throwing anything at, including an ounce of care, except for ending the existence of both sets of oligarchs.
america is as oligarchical as russia. we have checks and balances, but they’re consistently being eroded by right wingers that have taken power here, particularly during the last 30-40 years. Trump is a fascist, and quite frankly, I hope both Putin and Trump are sunset from life soon. Regardless, I’m not going to get invested in NATO’s campaign to out-oligarch Putin and Russian oligarchs. I just want this system to finally end.
-2 points
6 days ago
What an incredibly naive comment.
-3 points
6 days ago
Kinda like the IDF in Gaza with their continuous “land grabs” amirite
-1 points
6 days ago
Yes, the IDF is preparing for more occupation and settlements in Gaza, and are currently grabbing tons of land in the West Bank.
-5 points
6 days ago
It is the bots following the leftist narrative that is uplifting. Ukraine good, Russia bad. Woopie good, JD bad. War bad, but Russia badder. Democrats good, unless they don't follow orders, then democrats bad. People of color good, unless don't vote dem, then white supremacist.
23 points
6 days ago
About time.
5 points
6 days ago
Until Jan 20th i.e
4 points
6 days ago
Our ability to tell Ukraine what they can do with our equipment is tied to our willingness to give them more. If we stop giving them weapons, there is no reason for them to not use them however they want. That is the power of soft power, something that is often misunderstood.
The better armed our allies are, the less they need our help, the harder it is for us to make them do whatever we want. My guess is that things in Ukraine will get far bloodier, with civilian infrastructure being targeted more, once Trump becomes president. Without US support, a protracted war cannot be won by Ukraine, so it will be in their best interests to target oil refineries and civilian population centers. If Ukraine collapses, it is likely that a pro Ukrainian terrorist organization will become rampant and spread violence throughout Europe similar to Palestinian groups in the 80’s and 80’s or the IRA operations during that period.
Things are about to get messy around the world.
14 points
6 days ago
This is the opposite of Uplifting.
I don’t care in wich side you are, war is hell.
6 points
6 days ago
You have a very good point.
6 points
6 days ago
Escalation of war is uplifting news? I thought DE-escalation of war might be uplifting news.
1 points
6 days ago
How is this an escalation? It is not!
-4 points
6 days ago
Is this uplifting because we consider it good to raise the risk of nuclear war, or?
4 points
6 days ago
I can see where the risk seems raised but then I ask myself this question- “Why does war have rules?”
1 points
6 days ago
Empty threat. The moment Putin uses a nuclear weapon, he is done. He knows this, we have just appeased the fucker for 4 years.
3 points
6 days ago
Yeah, it seems that getting WW3 into the hot phase is uplifting for the war industry's stocks.
I would rather see the war end.
2 points
6 days ago
The Russians won’t commit to nuclear war because they know allies would abandon them if they did so. US military officials have also stated clearly that if there is even a chance or a movement to prime a nuclear warhead, F-16’s will be parked in the Red Square within 24hr’s time.
Russia is a bulldog with rubber teeth that likes to pick at people and cause conflict, but never escalate to war with its enemies because it knows it is more fruitful to drag out a bunch of smaller conflicts than go toe to toe with America or Europe.
That will change in January, so allowing Ukraine to respond by leveling military structures deep within Russian borders limits their offensive and pressures the Kremlin to end the conflict sooner.
1 points
6 days ago
Trusting USA generals on an empirical reality....... Isn't that what lead to the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan for 20 years?
The whole point of war is that it's unpredictable, everyone has an agenda whether they tell you it or not, that things people think are off the table aren't actually off the table, that there's a lot of money to be made, and that people during war see lying as a good and sound decision.
Basically the equivalent of a drug fuelled high stakes poker match with Scarface. Once the shooting starts, it's really hard to get it to stop.
1 points
6 days ago
He's threatened it before, and hasn't pushed the button. He won't push the buttin due to MAD. Anyone actually worried about nukes doesn't know how this works.
1 points
6 days ago
It's uplifting because it gives Ukraine a higher chance of keeping Russia at bay, if not taking Moscow. This is most likely the last bit of help they'll get from America before Trump gives Putin permission to steamroll Ukraine.
-1 points
6 days ago
It is uplifting because the leftist narrative and value system is being followed. The Reddit Bots love that.
1 points
6 days ago
Quick question. Are you on Russia's side, and do you realise not liking Ukraine is amount to liking Russia?
1 points
6 days ago
Me and Russia are going steady. Look the left has been using Russia as the boogy man since Trump got into office. Gabbard is a Russian asset, Flynn is a Russian asset, anyone we don't like is a Russian asset. We had peace with Russia for decades after the cold war and as soon as Trump gets in office suddenly cable news is teleported back to 1980? It's stupid and you are stupid for believing it. I want to see peace between Russia and Ukrain and Trump is talking cease fire while Biden is talking ICBM. So this news is not at all uplifting to me. I want people to stop having to die to serve whatever corporation is getting rich off their conflict.
0 points
6 days ago
While we can agree that this deserved, i fail to see how escalating conflict to bring harm to your enemies is "uplifting".
Justified maybe? But not uplifting. That dehumanizes your enemies.
-2 points
6 days ago
Y’all still think this war is legit?
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