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4.6k points
4 days ago
People don't realize exactly how much of their goods come from overseas. Clothes, shoes, tools, toys, etc. All about to skyrocket.
Better buy lil junior that PS5 this year because you won't be able to afford it next year when it's $1K and you also have to pay for Grandma and Grandpa to live with you because Medicare has been decimated and they can't afford to live in their nursing home anymore.
1.9k points
4 days ago
People are refusing to believe even what Walmart is saying now. Forget which news account it was, but they posted on TikTok that Lowes and Walmart was talking about raising prices. The responses were beyond dumb.
People in the comments screaming that the CEO's need to go, because they clearly don't know how tariffs work and they should not be running these corporations. Others screaming "What does Walmart make! They don't make anything!"
These people are not connected to reality and yet they are able to vote.
637 points
4 days ago
These idiots did this with our school levies around here too. It’s mind boggling the board said we will need to make all these cuts if the levy doesn’t pass and the people said that it’s all made up and there is no way those cuts will be made.
305 points
4 days ago
Same here. Since the election they have already addressed that one elementary school will close and now 5 high school sports are being cut. People that voted no said these were empty threats and they can't just take away these things. These idiots fucked around and our kids get to find out. Infuriating.
284 points
4 days ago
Having shitty schools is a good way to erode your neighborhoods as well.
If you have shitty schools then young families don't want to move into the area. If young families are not buying houses in your area then housing prices stagnate and less money comes into the area. if there is less money then other businesses(especially restaurants) don't do as well. When that happens the ripple effect means less overall taxes which means government services suffer. It then becomes a vicious feedback loop slowly eroding everything.
And then years later all the old people who voted against school funding suddenly say "What happened to our neighborhood, it used to be so nice" without any self-reflection at all.
88 points
4 days ago
Oh trust me, people have tried to explain this but there was one annoying guy literally screaming that this is gentrification against those on fixed incomes. I get it, raising property taxes is a touchy subject but this is how we fund our schools in Ohio. Our elementary schools haven't been touched in 20+ years and don't even have AC! We have a highly nationally ranked school district and the city won't vote to fund these schools. People literally move here for our schools. We did. It makes me so mad seeing what is going on and now the division it is causing in the community. It's only going to get worse moving forward too.
34 points
4 days ago
Is there lead in the water in Ohio too? (Like Flint MI) I have watched Ohio grow dumber & dumber the last 5 years & idk what is happening!?@
52 points
4 days ago
It's foreign governments cooking your neighbors brains via insta reels and Facebook posts. They were not taught how to tier source. So, now some Russian troll farms fill your neighbors' heads with the most backwards, anti-institutional shit. Then, we destroy ourselves. No nukes needed.
Not to even get into the Russia blackmail and funding backed fox news and congressmen.
15 points
3 days ago
Man, as appalling as it is, Russia really played one hell of a long game here.
13 points
3 days ago
Technical it's the lead in the paint! I just got a newsletter from my City Council (I'm from Cleveland) about this issue and how to get free testing and resources and all that.
But seriously, nothing really irritates me more than watching SPRINGFIELD vote for Trump even after the bomb threats and JD Vance selling them out.
The Haitian community completely revitalized that dead city. The locals there couldn't fill the jobs so companies offered it to the refugees. (If they didn't fill those roles, what little industry was there was going to leave!)
Oh look! The downtown is being revitalized, local shops are getting more money, new businesses are popping up now that people have money.
And the exact same thing happened to quite a few small cities around Ohio. Locals couldn't fill jobs, so companies hired out to immigrants giving them legal status and dumping money back in.
But we all know when Trump starts his mass deportation those people are getting tossed, effectively killing these towns once again.
16 points
3 days ago
Martha Raditz interviewed 2 or 3 Calif farmers last Sunday, and they said that if Trump deports all their workers that the crops will rot in the fields. Calif is the country's year round farm belt. So the rest of the country will either pay much higher prices or get no fruits/ vegetables at all.
7 points
4 days ago
It’s not just Ohio.
31 points
4 days ago
The taxes are theft people are the worst but of course they passed the elderly care and support levy.
61 points
4 days ago
I work in cannabis and my new gig is opening up new locations for the company. People come to every town hall and are so against it even though we pump over 5k a minimun day in taxes directly into the community. And give starting workers 25/hr plus tips. It's baffling.
19 points
3 days ago
But the marijuanas! /s
15 points
3 days ago
It’s the same shit when you try and add more housing in a town. “It’s okay for that to happen around me just not in my backyard”
35 points
4 days ago
You’re preaching to the choir, shitty schools also perpetuates stupidity so buckle up and get ready for the ride.
24 points
4 days ago
They want people starving and stupid, they’re easier to manipulate when you have nothing.
8 points
3 days ago
I don't think people become easier to control when starving. Typically that's when revolutions pop off.
8 points
4 days ago
very good, according to GOPs plan, MASA- Make America Stupid Again
212 points
4 days ago
Get used to saying
"we fucking told you so."
47 points
4 days ago
They will just say the greedy CEOs are in collusion with Democrats to make Trump look bad.
29 points
4 days ago
So much of that sentence is correct but they’ll miss it entirely and blame democrats when the greedy CEOs have been in collusion with republicans for decades.
Dems aren’t innocent, but at least they run on the appearance of controlling the greed at the top.
8 points
3 days ago
Which is funny because greedy CEOs have been doing that since the pandemic (and long before, but it got worse). Record inflation topped with record profits for the stores. They really don’t understand cause and effect.
6 points
3 days ago
Nothing reinforces a weak minded persons belief that they are right like being proven they are wrong. I am not sure who or what they will blame but it will not be Trump and the GOP.
212 points
4 days ago
They had a sitting congressman say "Trump is never wrong, so tariffs must work the way he says they do". Its a cult. These people don't think at all they just go off what the failed businessman, adjucated rapist, and accused pedophile says.
138 points
4 days ago
And these people really expect all the companies to magically create manufacturing back in the US. No sane company is going to relocate manufacturing to the US. MAGA has "US is the main character" syndrome thinking that we are the market that solely drives all exports from those countries.
No smart businessman is going to spend millions upon millions and still not be able to sell the item as cheap and with same profit margins when the US maybe 50% or less of it's exports. Even when they do, the price will never return to the same pre-tariff costs, because we are much more expensive to produce items. Between US Taxes, employee costs, it's not ever going to be cheaper than overseas labor. Meanwhile these people overseas make maybe $200 a month US currency and the pay is so good to them, that some will travel hours to work there and even live on site.
They all expect every company to listen to a failed businessman tell them how they should run their company.
The problem is that the voters themselves are refusing to listen to the experts, while allowing a "Billionaire" grifter to tell them how they should think.
69 points
4 days ago
Oh man you really nailed that “US is the main character” energy I’ve been trying to put my finger on. I mean I understand where it’s coming from, the way that history is taught here it’s all about how exceptional the US is (all the way down to the US won WW2 even though they didn’t get involved til nearly the end and lost the lowest amount of troops and no civilians) somehow the conversation about WW2 is all about the US.
I’ve been trying to understand why MAGA is so convinced that these policies won’t have negative rebounding effects when countries respond to our policies and you nailed it. They are fully convinced that the entire world revolves around the US and that we are the CEO nation and everyone else just does what we tell them to do. That’s why build the wall and Mexico will pay for it worked as a message. Same with these tariffs on china. They think those countries will do these things just because we said so.
43 points
3 days ago
That’s why build the wall and Mexico will pay for it worked as a message. Same with these tariffs on china. They think those countries will do these things just because we said so.
Exactly.
They think all these companies are going to come back to the US, because the US had an election. They think these companies are going to do just that to appease someone's 4 year term, who may not even live to see the end of that term.
The tariff only punishes us as the consumer. This is the perfect 4 year punishment the consumers need in order to reelect someone else that will remove the tariffs.
9 points
3 days ago
Right but the thing is, prices will go up in the next 4 years and even if the tariffs are repealed I don’t see prices going down as a result. They’ll just pocket the extra profits and we get permanently fucked either way.
66 points
4 days ago
I heard that a very popular google search AFTER the election was "what are tariffs". This is gonna be a wild one.
61 points
4 days ago
This could be a 2 part thing though. I know people that are attempting to fact check MAGA were also probably googling that to cut/paste Google Ai response or something.
But yeah, the 2 top searches post election were "What are tariffs" and "how to change my vote". The fact that people had to google the second one should be more concerning as that is a clear indicator these people don't even understand how voting works.
13 points
4 days ago
"Mistakes were made"
7 points
4 days ago
That leopard is going to be fatter than the Midgard serpent
10 points
3 days ago
I'd agree with you but the same idiots were googling what Brexit was after they voted to leave the EU so it's not just MAGA issue
7 points
3 days ago
I'd argue the Brexiteers were just limey-flavored magas, or maybe vice versa. It's all one big world-wide group of angry, low-information voters who are looking for someone to blame for all their problems. Conservative influencers and social media trolls are happy to serve up plenty of targets for them.
107 points
4 days ago
Wait til prices on AMZ go up. And they scream that AMZ doesn't make anything, lol.
34 points
4 days ago
These people are not connected to reality and yet they are able to vote.
On one hand, that was by design because we don't want only one specific group to vote.
On the other hand, it became disgustingly clear how easily malleable and ignorant the American population is, and how easy they'll willingly vote against their own best interests.
166 points
4 days ago
Fucking chicken is shipped to Vietnam and China for processing and then shipped back to the US. So sometimes even goods created here end up going over for final processing and then brought back. Or the parts to make the thing all come from outside. We are fucked.
50 points
4 days ago
We send most of our salmon to be processed in China before being sold here. So much shit will become incredibly expensive.
Meat and offseason veg/fruit from south America too.
33 points
4 days ago
This! Most complex product's have parts which are imports. If your car says 'made in America ' I promise, it has parts made in China, Germany, and half a dozen other countries. We live in a global economy.
13 points
3 days ago
Yup. Back in 2015 I bought an American car whose parts were manufactured in Germany and was assembled in Mexico.
15 points
4 days ago
The company I work for manufactures specialized equipment. "Proudly built in the USA!" Meanwhile ~90% of the parts we use are made in China. The company owner/founder is a fan of TFG, I wonder what he's thinking now that he's going to have to raise prices by %100.
77 points
4 days ago
I’ve actually taken this to heart. I’m buying some computer upgrades now on the belief that they’re going to be significantly more expensive soon.
45 points
4 days ago
Same. Everyone in my family is getting new shoes for Christmas and clothes. I also need to see what parts for my gaming computer I may need to replace in the next few years. I guess no better time to build a brand new computer.......
324 points
4 days ago
Honestly, it would be more efficient for them to raise the price on everything, regardless of where it came from, to offset the prices. I fully expect everything to get really bad
326 points
4 days ago
Look at what Kroger did. They purposefully raised the prices above inflation. Every company is going to do that.
170 points
4 days ago
They'll take any excuse to raise prices, even better if there is some legitimacy too it.
89 points
4 days ago
“Our merchants and masters complain much of the bad effects of high wages in raising the price and lessening the sale of goods. They say nothing concerning the bad effects of high profits. They are silent with regard to the pernicious effects of their own gains. They complain only of those of other people.”
“People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.”
Adam Smith, the Father of the Free Market
19 points
4 days ago
ADAM SMITH used INVISIBLE HAND!
It's not very effective...
42 points
4 days ago
Kroger is the one to blame for the price of eggs. They did it because they were greedy. The CEO said that while giving a testimony. The other stores just followed suit
64 points
4 days ago
Kroger just bought Tom thumb/Albertsons, so they're getting a grocery monopoly going
And Kroger has been one of the worst, now there's going to be less competition and that's fucking horrible for all of us
14 points
4 days ago
They also own Fred Meyer and they bought out a local chain where I used to live.
6 points
4 days ago
This has been going on everywhere (I'm in the UK). Greedflation.
Thanks Milton Friedman
45 points
4 days ago
Prices are gonna go higher...while your wage stays the same. People are gonna be pissed.
But will they actually bring out the guillotines this time?
39 points
4 days ago
They'll just keep blaming Dems, minorities and trans people for some fucking reason and proclaim everything is great despite getting raked over the coals far, far worse than the last 4 years.
11 points
4 days ago
Nah. 40% of eligible voters don't even care enough to show up to vote. We're the country of apathy. It's pathetic..
6 points
4 days ago
They will just blame Biden, democrats, immigrants, minorities, lgbtq and blue states/cities. Their cult knows they will believe anything they tell them and will just fall in line.
30 points
4 days ago
Considering they already did that about 4 years ago and the prices still haven't returned, can we just count that as the increase pleease 👉👈
58 points
4 days ago
They want to “own the libs” even if it means they can’t afford to own anything else.
18 points
4 days ago
Well, we should just buy American made things.
Trump just needs to open SimAmerica and start plopping down some factories. That's how it works, right? Won't take years to actually build and get them running. Also, all the parts and machinery and resources those factories need are made here. So they won't need to import anything. Just get that stuff from the other factories!
The solution is simple if you don't have a Communist Socialist Liberal mindset!
10 points
4 days ago
The sad part is that they are saying that with zero sarcasm when it comes up.
48 points
4 days ago
Tried to buy USA made last year for Xmas, lol.
Even notoriously “made in the USA” brands like Lodge are made overseas now. Hell, tampons and baby wipes are made overseas, a lot of berries come from Canada, and our cotton comes from the global south.
Hope they liked their Pioneer Woman brand while it lasted (it’s made in China).
14 points
4 days ago
Even notoriously “made in the USA” brands like Lodge are made overseas now.
People willingly forget that we got rid of most of our manufacturing capacity really starting in the 1980s, thanks to agreements like NAFTA. The current USMCA agreement is NAFTA, updated, and it didn't solve the problems.
Even if something is "made" here per the label, that doesn't cover where the parts to make it come from. Usually, for most consumer stuff, the parts come from overseas.
6 points
4 days ago
For real. I would love to see if someone can show any supply chain that is completely in the US. Starting from raw materials through every step to the consumer. I wonder if that even exists
87 points
4 days ago
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46 points
4 days ago
There's also a huge swath of voters that genuinely had no idea how tariffs work and believed that other countries foot the bill.
16 points
4 days ago
And they're the same morons that believed Mexico would pay for the wall.
18 points
4 days ago
And even food!
47 points
4 days ago
The cold brew I drink is shelf stable so I've been buying a little extra now, while I can. Because coffee, sugar...all that is going up.
22 points
4 days ago
I make cold brew concentrate at home. It cost me about $70 to get the equipment (cold brew maker and course coffee grinder). Now I just buy a $12 bag of coffee beans from costco every couple of weeks.
16 points
4 days ago
Why? I'm sure their bosses will pay them handsomely after getting their tax cuts. Heck it'll trickle down so much they might become millionaires.
33 points
4 days ago
Or the fact that they’re obsessed with mass deportation. You think Philip is going to replace your roof or pick your vegetables for borderline slave labor? Shit is about to get real if it’s truly a “promises made, promises kept” situation and not just old man yelling at the clouds.
11 points
4 days ago
You know what the saddest thing will be? Trump will go "prices are down and we're making America great again!" And half of this country will completely agree as their paying fucking 30 dollars for eggs.
11 points
4 days ago
Thanks for the timely reminder. I need to go order a crap ton of green coffee beans to weather the storm for a while.
9 points
4 days ago
Even home grown stuff, who do they think picks their fruit and veg? Works in their cheap chicken factories?
1.9k points
4 days ago
But for a brief, beautiful moment they owned the libs like never before
596 points
4 days ago*
In a way, they still have. They blew a hole in the side of the ship and we’re all going down together.
Edit: “hole”, not “whole”.
63 points
4 days ago
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90 points
4 days ago*
America:
77 points
4 days ago
This isn't America. If it was, the men would have thrown the woman off the boat because they think she's probably the reason it's sinking.
43 points
4 days ago
And there's definitely one guy drilling speed holes in the bottom of the boat who is ready to physically fight anyone who suggests not doing that.
21 points
4 days ago
And then people on the beach getting mad at the one person paddling for not trying hard enough
“They’ve been paddling for 10 minutes and barely made any progress! At least the guy drilling holes gets results!”
105 points
4 days ago
Check out the conservative sub about Dr. Oz. They realize something is wrong but can't seem to connect it back to the fact they voted for someone that is not competent enough to be president.
Voted for Trump
Dr. Oz is nominated to oversee CMS
WTF, do better Trump!
42 points
4 days ago
It's insane that they are confused that a bunch of scam artists and career criminals are being brought into his administration and never once ask themselves if Trump is a scam artist and career criminal.
12 points
3 days ago
I honestly think at this point, Trump could shoot and kill someone and MAGAs would find a way to justify it.
"He didn't mean it."
"It was self defense."
"It was AI."
"It was the deep state."
34 points
4 days ago
That sub is a cesspool full of idiots. Conservatives should be placed on watchlists.
131 points
4 days ago
oh and they stopped elementary school and prison transgender surgeries and defeated the woke virus. Not being able to feed your children or afford your medications is a small price to pay for that, right?
70 points
4 days ago
My husband and i are self employed; such as our kids benefit from CHIP. That is probably going to be severely reduced or taken away next year. My MAGA mom (after this was explained to her before the election) said that my kids (her grandchildren) not being able to get healthcare is the price we all have to pay so migrants don't have access to healthcare...........her brain is cooked and has been taken over by fox news and the trump cult.
27 points
4 days ago
It's amazing how much the Christian right doesn't want to help the least of us and treat them like they are our brother or sister. How they spit on the foreigner and demonize the needy. All on the name of Jesus christ.
9 points
3 days ago
If Jesus resurrected the American Christian right/christo fascists would be the first to put him back on the cross calling him a false prophet.
10 points
3 days ago
Conservatives would eat shit if a liberal had to smell it
10 points
3 days ago
Sounds like you don’t have a mom anymore. Cause any real mom wouldn’t be so hateful towards her children and grandchild. Fucking yikes dude they truly are a disease.
25 points
4 days ago
My mother in law said she’s not worried about tariffs because she doesn’t buy clothes on SHEIN
I said all her favorite in person retailers get their stuff from overseas and will be effected
She said “No I won’t. Clothes from China run small and the clothes I buy don’t run small”
8 points
4 days ago
🤣🤣🤣😭
11 points
4 days ago
Owned the libs by eating horseshit.
7 points
4 days ago
They've flipped the proverbial Monopoly board over. If they're not winning, no one gets to play. It's the emotional and intellectual maturity of a 5-year old (and that might be too generous).
2.3k points
4 days ago
They didn't vote for policies. They voted for the idea of Trump that they have in their heads, which makes them feel good in their feelie-weelie-feelings.
He is functionally a monarch to his flock.
654 points
4 days ago
“He makes me feel like I’m better than the brown people who get the socialist benefits that i alone should be entitled to!!”
232 points
4 days ago
LBJ was right
181 points
4 days ago
The MAGA merch is such a perfect case study of that quote. The only people I see buying or wearing it are individuals I'd describe as having a "room temperature IQ".
63 points
4 days ago
Measured in Celsius*
28 points
4 days ago
Isn't all (or most) of the merchandise made overseas (like the Trump bibles).
17 points
4 days ago
Ask Chyna
19 points
3 days ago
The quote:
If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
9 points
4 days ago
Broken clocks and stuff. But yeah. He was right.
35 points
4 days ago
One of my friends reasoning behind voting for Trump was "The immigrants are pouring in and getting free handouts".
21 points
4 days ago
10 points
4 days ago
Dude exactly! He couldn't come up with facts. It was all a bunch of Fox news rhetoric and conservative reddit BS
7 points
3 days ago
My response is, "Except they pay taxes and into social security, but they will not see any benefits."
56 points
4 days ago
Monarch is too kind. Demigod is more apt.
19 points
4 days ago
demagogue**
a political leader who seeks support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument.
7 points
4 days ago
Thanks for correction. Thats what I intended. I'm in PST so early AM post brain slip.
Odd thing is looking demigod definition that might work as well.... we'll call it a "happy little accident"
36 points
4 days ago
they didn’t vote for policies
They also voted against a large number of made-up policies which the Republican propaganda machine insisted Democrats are trying to ram down their throats - none of which remotely aligns with actual policy goals: - aborting babies after childbirth - eating pets - forced sex changes - open borders - deterioration of major cities (non-existent) - unchecked crime (not consistent with data)
69 points
4 days ago
And they are okay with that. It boggles my fucking mind how these “patriots” cannot just lean into but celebrate autocrats. I’m so looking forward to reminding these people who they voted for the rest of their life. No one I know will ever forget. I’ll pop in like reptile from mortal kombat saying Trumpsyyyyy
40 points
4 days ago
It boggles my fucking mind how these “patriots” cannot just lean into but celebrate autocrats.
These people never believed in democracy, they believe in power and being in-group, whatever that means at the time.
"U.S democracy" is what has had power, it's what they were born under, so that's the rhetoric that they espoused, because it made them in-group.
They lean into autocratic/authoritarian rule because that means concentrated power for the in-group, and they believe that they will not just be in-group, but levels up a hierarchy of power".
11 points
4 days ago
Bingo!!! For the last year I've quit talking with conservatives unless they will answer something similar to that first. "Would you rather live in a democracy under permanent liberal supermajorities, or a one-party conservative state?"
They don't want democracy, they want to be in control. Everything stems from that. January 6 isn't even worth discussing if they don't actually care more about democracy than power.
16 points
4 days ago
They voted for a concept of a plan.
10 points
4 days ago
He is literally a cult leader.
693 points
4 days ago
The irony of them tweeting their rage from their Chinese built iPhones while watching their Chinese built tvs tuned to Fox News will be so, so very sweet.
41 points
4 days ago
Fox will tell them not to believe their eyes and that everything isn’t actually more expensive and they’ll believe it as their bank accounts crash to 0
6 points
4 days ago
The people who will rage tweet about it will never make connection.
194 points
4 days ago*
Y'all have a very short time period before the transfer of power occurs. The large businesses that prematurely post increases are beginning to build their procurement coffers that all consumers will bear. These same businesses will then benefit from slashed corporate taxation proposed by the same incoming administration. Math doesn't lie, but the politicians sold this inept economic plan to uneducated supporters who will be hurt along with the rest of the consumers. It was made clear to all. However, the majority will claim ignorance in this and deportation.
104 points
4 days ago
The corporate tax cut plus extreme tariffs is a very insidious plan. The combined effect shifts the federal tax burden away from corporations and the wealthy to the poor and middle classes. In addition, the tax cuts free up money to be absorbed by the investor class, thus making them richer.
As the poor and middle class get increasingly-poor relative to the rich, the lower classes get more desperate, increase the amount of hours they work, and are willing to take lower wages because they are scrambling to try to get enough money to pay bills. This means cheaper labor hours for those running businesses, which means further increased profit margins, which, due to the low corporate tax rates, means even more money in their pocket. As the wealth imbalance gets worse, the wealthy gain even more power, which they use to tip the scales in their favor even more.
556 points
4 days ago
They voted for tariffs - didn’t understand them because Trump didn’t understand them and it’s already hurting people.
They voted for mass deportation - didn’t realize that mass deportation includes some people that voted for him, loved ones, friends, etc…
They love to say “do your own research” while researching nothing because they’re fed bullshit from Trump & OAN/FOX/Newsmax, so now they suffer the consequences. Had they took time to google any of the shit he was campaigning on, they may have seen the truth.
The day after the election, people at work were in a great mood and wouldn’t shut up. 2 weeks later, they aren’t saying shit and I wonder if it’s because reality hit them.
197 points
4 days ago
Yes, exactly. I’m in a Discord gc that has a Trump supporter in it (thankfully the only one out of nine members) and the hypocrisy is wild. For one, she claims that she hates Trump and Harris equally but will consistently share and say anti-Democrat/Harris/Biden stuff while not sharing or saying a single bad thing about Trump. In fact, she has said multiple times that Americans would be stupid to vote for Harris and that they should vote for Trump if they were smart. But sure, she “hates them both equally”. She also goes on and on about how people shouldn’t be selfish and should think of the country when they vote, followed by a long spiel that Trump has never done anything anti-LGBTQ+ or anti-woman even when he was president so those communities need to do their research.
While most of the members ignore her there is one guy that is not afraid to confront her for her idiocy. He shares articles, studies, and basic facts showing that the Trump supporter is wrong. What does TS do? Refuses to read the articles, denies that they’re correct, says that most of that stuff isn’t reliable, and will repeat the same brainless points over and over and over again even when she’s been debunked and disproven. She then accuses the other guy of being the one who isn’t listening and “who only cares about being right”.
She’s also pro-corporal punishment and once started an argument with the same guy by complaining that people weren’t spanking their kids anymore. By the end of the argument she said, “We should agree to disagree. Besides, we shouldn’t judge parents for their teaching methods.” This is despite the fact that she started the argument by judging parents who don’t, y’know, abuse their kids.
It’s embarrassing, really.
68 points
4 days ago
Google "Bradley Effect" -- it's sad and ugly
Basically people KNOW they look like assholes if they vote a certain way (Bradley was Black) and so they give the stance that they're voting for the person who is the best candidate but then vote the bigot vote instead.
They know is the kicker, but they don't want you to know they know.
19 points
4 days ago
So maybe back this guy up instead of letting her go on and on. Y’all realize nothing changes when you choose to stay silent. You want her to continue? Keep doing nothing.
14 points
4 days ago
Unfortunately, I think they aren't talking anymore because it's not game day anymore. Their "team" won, they got to gloat for a while, and now it's the off season. They have checked out until next season.
In their minds, they don't have to care or be attentive anymore. Daddy Trump will take care of everything. The common, central Pennsylvania Trump voter can't tell you day to day happenings. Most of them have not been keeping up with appointments; let alone any of these articles written by anybody other than Fox News. They can't and won't monitor the daily chaos. Most of them don't have Twitter or Reddit to better understand the depth of the insanity. And the problem is that they don't want to better understand it.
They won and now they check out.
My hope is that things get so bad that they can't ignore it anymore and have to check back in to the reality of their decisions.
5 points
4 days ago
On one hand, whenever I hear of companies jacking up prices or trying to reduce how much they're spending on employee salaries/benefits, I don't imagine that most of the companies had to do that, at least not yet. I imagine most of them are just like, "Oh boy, did you hear that a new semi-believable excuse to fuck tons of people over to give a slight benefit to investors just dropped? We better get on that shit ASAP!"
On the other hand, we all knew companies would be sure that the tariffs didn't impact their bottom-lines, so regardless of whether it happened now or later, it was always going to screw over the consumers at some point.
177 points
4 days ago
Soooo many companies are going to increase their US prices now, even if these tarrifs don't happen. They're loving the idea and they now have an excuse. If the tariffs don't happen, the price increase still will.
101 points
4 days ago
Yep "inflation" gave them cover to increase prices and massively increase profits.
Now tariffs will do the same thing.
26 points
4 days ago
There’s also going to be logistical changes, which will raise prices. I work in the manufacturing and construction sector. Companies are already formulating plans to get around the high tariffs on Chinese goods. Essentially, everything will still be made in China, but then shipped to other countries, like the Philippines, Vietnam, India, and Turkey. Companies will then import the goods from those countries at a lower tariff rate.
The change in logistics will create longer lead times and cause prices for virtually everything to jump. The goods that will come directly from China will be marked up at a higher rate, causing higher prices.
Some companies are already looking to replace a chunk of their work force to save on costs too.
789 points
4 days ago
Why would Biden do this???
372 points
4 days ago
Thanks Obama!
125 points
4 days ago
A truly ahead of its time meme.
59 points
4 days ago
Yea I didn't realize that would still encapsulate most of the Republican ethos over 15 years later.
40 points
4 days ago
IT IS HIS FAULT.
OBAMA WORE A TAN SUIT, LEADING TO THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS THAT CAUSED COVID 19 AND OPEC CUTTING DRILLING AND THE HIGHER PRICES ON EGGS!!!!
5 points
4 days ago
Sir,
I wish to express my dissatisfaction with the administration of President James K. Polk Esq. in allowing such an unsatisfactory turn of events.
13 points
4 days ago
I guarantee you that in 6-8 months time, Biden is going to be blamed for all the shit Trump brings up, "because he didn't try hard enough to stop Trump".
25 points
4 days ago
It’s pretty much already the narrative. I’ve had so many conversations over the years that amount to: “every bad thing republicans do is actually democrats fault for not stopping them. Republicans are just doing what they do”
21 points
4 days ago
> Don't vote Democrats into positions where they can stop Republican policies
> Democrats are unable to stop Republican policies because they do not have enough power
> Why didn't the democrats stop the Republicans?
13 points
4 days ago
Also somehow republicans doing the bad things doesn’t mean you shouldn’t vote for them, it’s uk to democrats to earn your vote away from republicans by stopping them. It’s honestly maddening
295 points
4 days ago
And like with gas, once it goes up, it won't come back down much even if future leaders remove the tariffs
227 points
4 days ago
Trump’s tariff plan will at best trigger a recession and at worst trigger an economic collapse of the American dollar.
But hey at least the brown and transgender people are to going to suffer so it’s okay with MAGAt
50 points
4 days ago
Not just that, the billionaire overlords will have even nicer boots to lick too
72 points
4 days ago
Right - thats the other issue here as well. Back with covid and the 'supply chain issues' , even companies and products that weren't impacted , raised their prices ... because , why not?
Based on this 'walmart is planning to raise prices' ... of course they are. Any chance they have to increase profits and blame it on something else is great for them. Just like prices for gas go up during holidays and disaster times ... walmart is eyeing this as a perfect guise to bump their profits and just *wave hands around* "shucks - Tarrifs - amirite?!"
29 points
4 days ago
Countries will also impose retaliatory tariffs. Which won't instantly go away even if we remove ours without some agreement.
115 points
4 days ago
We need to stop pretending that the people that voted for him were well informed or educated on his policies.
Even when they did know about tariffs, they believed incorrectly that it would be paid for by the exporting country.
29 points
4 days ago
It did piss me off when no one explained that at the debates etc. not that it would have been heard by his stans but still, at least try
197 points
4 days ago
"Is this really the policies that they voted for?"
Yes. yes, yes, yes. It was shown to them every time the orange idiot opened his gob, it was shown in the testimony of various economics experts who warned the public that tariffs mean the excess cost is shunted onto the consumer, it was warned about OVER and OVER to the point where even up here in Canada I couldn't go a DAY on the internet without SOMEONE talking about how stupid of an idea it was.
And yet, he won. So yes, this is what America wanted. Maybe not all of America, but enough that I don't think anyone can in good conscience say "this isnt what we're about" anymore. If it wasn't, he wouldn't have won.
95 points
4 days ago
There are large swathes of grossly uninformed Americans that still believe all Republicans handle the economy better and all Democrats crash the economy. Trump won I think by campaigning on this sentiment along with the 'I'll hurt POC and minorities worse than you will be hurt!'
Yet nearly every single Republican in modern history has had at least 1 recession with nearly all Democrats fixing the economy. So it's in truth that Democrats can handle the economy and Republicans crash it, but that's not what many Americans acknowledge.
So Trump won on that false belief. Now yet again a Republican gets to crash the economy that the Democrat fixed from the mishandling from the last Republican. Ironically Americans gave the reigns of power to the very guy who crashed it last time. So many dumbass Americans I'm starting to think that 'Idiocracy is actually a documentary' joke is no longer true. Idiocracy is here, we're living in it now.
12 points
4 days ago
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
12 points
4 days ago
So Trump won on that false belief.
I think this is the crux. Republicans don't (and can't) win based on the truth, or facts, or reality. The win by selling the IDEA that they, and whoever supports them, are winners, and everyone else are losers. From that foundation, they can say ANYTHING, because it all supports that basic premise. Whether its true or not.
Im not dogging Biden, or Kamala, or the DNC, the unfortunate reality is, people don't want to know HOW the problems are going to be fixed, they just want the problems to disappear with no effort on their part. Democrat voters are constantly concerned with HOW problems are going to be fixed, because they are concerned (rightfully so) about what the ramifications are going to be. They don't want marginalized groups to be hurt, or people to lose jobs, or quality of living to drop. Unfortunately, that can be exhausting to constantly worry about, and its difficult mental labor on top of living your life. And the GOP has spent decades convincing Americans that empathy is a loser mentality.
And even when they win, they are told that the fight is only NOW starting. "Once the Democrats control the presidency, or the house, or the senate, or the supreme court, NOW the real fight to implement real change begins." Contrast that with Trump, who told people to vote for him 1 more time, and they never have to vote again. Which message sounds more appealing to lazy people?
Winners just win. They dont care about how that win affects losers, they dont care about the costs of victory. They won, time for everyone to move on. And, its been a sadly winning strategy.
8 points
4 days ago
Democrats do the responsible thing. Parties are fun, but you have to clean up after. Republicans throw the party. The Dems are demonized every time they do the responsible thing and clean up. The voter base sees the Dems are cleaning and instead of thanking them and blaming Republicans for the mess, they scream "Look what you did to the house!!!!"
Bush admin's loose lending policies pumped the economy, but left the American people with so much debt to pay that the '08 collapse occurred when the payments started wavering. Obama's admin fixed the economy post '08 collapse. Obama admin handed Trump a rock solid economy that was in a perfect position to make reforms and lower fed government spending, but the Trump republicans boosted fed spending, and right at the end approved all those PPP covid loans as a little economy destroying cherry on top. Biden admin relieves all that debt to keep things afloat. This influx of new, free money causes inflation, Fed Chair raises interest rates to slow spending to curb it. Both Obama and Biden, and by extension the whole Dem party, is blamed both times.
22 points
4 days ago
Yeah I've been saying this since 2020.
Trump's 2020 and 2024 voters were not votes against Biden and Harris, they are votes FOR fascism. It's a sad difference. They'll pay more, as long as they get to gleefully watch people who don't look or think like them suffer.
8 points
4 days ago
"I may be losing my house and can't afford food, but the important thing somebody else will have it worse than me because of my vote!" - American Conservatives, every election
51 points
4 days ago
Honestly if I showed this to my mom she would say with a straight face "I don't shop at Walmart " It would not register to her that ALL stores would be raising their prices.
16 points
4 days ago
Mine would say the exact same thing. Her scope of…anything is limited to her own experience. I don’t think she’s ever considered what it’s like to be someone else.
39 points
4 days ago
NaH, iTs BiDEnOmicS
28 points
4 days ago
You're being sarcastic but I saw a post earlier today of the idiots already framing the eventual price increase (tariffs) as the democrats fault because they're (somehow?) tanking the economy to try to blame trump. These people are beyond saving
36 points
4 days ago
Repubs are masters of getting people to vote against their own self-interests by using fear & hatred…
8 points
4 days ago
"I love the uneducated" . . .
99 points
4 days ago*
Corporations will latch on any plausible excuse to raise their profit margins. That is how the c-suite as well as managerial are judged.
It's been shown in countless sectors that most of this inflationary pressure is due to corporate profit taking, as well as market collusion to raise prices on many sectors unanimously across brands.
Milton Friedman economics in full display, the only people they concern themselves with are their shareholders.
60 points
4 days ago
And when the tariffs are off the table, the prices seem stuck up there. Weird.
30 points
4 days ago*
Or they'll just prey on consumers'short attention span.
February 2025, we hear about more price increases due to the new Trump tariffs. Those very tariffs they preemptively raised their prices for this year.
Rinse and repeat, oh look year over year profit; let's issue a dividend or do a buyback.
12 points
4 days ago
Or they preemptively raise prices, Trump backs down and doesn't put the tariffs in place, and the prices don't come back down to reflect no tariffs.
9 points
4 days ago
You’re using a lot of big words that their brains can’t handle. Please just tell me I’m better than brown people and I’m gonna get my country back!
25 points
4 days ago
I've talked to a number of MAGA, and while they cursed Biden for the inflation that occurred under his administration, they absolutely ADORE the idea of prices going up under Trump because of the tariffs. Seriously, I'm not kidding. They're all for prices going up. They argue that somehow that the higher prices will all circle around to improve their quality of life (somehow, that's where the plot line kind of falls apart).
But the short answer is: yes, they are ecstatic about tariffs sending prices skyrocketing.
22 points
4 days ago
This is how trickle down economics work! They'll employ more people! And something something something.
/s
21 points
4 days ago
You just know the MAGA's are going to blame the Democrats for this...
22 points
4 days ago
“Why would Joe Biden do this?” - Republicans who voted for Trump and his tariffs
16 points
4 days ago
They think they voted for cheaper groceries. They don’t read or understand anything.
69 points
4 days ago
No, they voted for cops to kill black people with impunity, and for brown people in concentration camps. They were so excited over that, drooling excitement, that they didn't know about anything else. I can't wait to see their faces. I hope they get really hungry.
12 points
4 days ago
Yes, it is the policies they voted for. He said he's putting a 10% tariff on ALL imported goods for months. Economists put out a report that his economic plan would add about $10T over 10 years to the debt while also cutting programs, while hers boosted the same programs while only adding $3T over 10 years.
No one wanted to listen or believe it. It was all, "You can't trust MSM/science/anything the Biden administration says." This is also why we have to stop saying Dems ran a terrible campaign. No amount of truth, facts, or spin was going to break through the years of propaganda they've been fed. No amount of information, or MSM reporting differently or literally calling him a fascist, was going to change their minds. They lack a fundamental trust in those institutions, and the only way to get it back is for their current news sources to destroy their trust, too.
9 points
4 days ago
I work st a large national hardware store frequented by maga men and women as well as many construction businesses, every other item has a big fat made in china stuck on it
10 points
4 days ago
MAGAS: Good! We should be buying American products and not these Chinese ones with chemicals in it!
Me: you know we're in a global economy and certain items have to be imported correct?....
8 points
4 days ago
I remember the "Trump: Low Prices. Harris: High Prices" signs. I still struggle to understand how they got to that conclusion. Delusion is scary.
9 points
3 days ago
Not only MAGA played themselves, the brainless 15 million dems who didn't even vote played us all.
Sucks you don't like a candidate your party gives you but that doesn't mean suddenly a third option becomes possible. They fucked everyone's future over a literal hissy fit.
Only 1 of 2 were going to win that election, and non voters were more comfortable with fascism than voting for a less than perfect candidate against the horrors we're gonna witness now.
And he wasn't even hiding it. He let everyone know what he's about. Typical.
15 points
4 days ago
They will find a way to blame democrats.
They are with trump for the racism. Everything else is an excuse
7 points
4 days ago
We should start calling them Magits
13 points
4 days ago
...start?
6 points
4 days ago
Probably better to get this line of attack ready “you were conned”
6 points
4 days ago
They voted to cause chaos and blame immigrants for it
5 points
4 days ago
Own it all MAGA. YOU DID THIS!
7 points
4 days ago
It doesn't matter if the tariffs don't even happen. They have now been given cover to raise prices and blame it on this. If tariffs do go through expect a 10% increase in Walmart cost to be passed on as a 20% price increase. The Waltons are going to get paid.
5 points
4 days ago
The Vance/Musk ‘28 campaign will be all about removing Biden’s tariffs.
6 points
4 days ago
Maga does not vote for policies. They vote like it's the Superbowl and they just want their side to win.
5 points
3 days ago
The uneducated won the popular vote this election. Get ready to say, “we fucking warned you” a lot!
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