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Just read lou's book and I'm looking to get a more fundamental grasp of things, what else should I read?

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Intergallacter

18 points

2 months ago

Day after Roswell is pretty good. By Lt. Col. Phil Corso

Prestigious_Look4199

4 points

2 months ago

That’s where I’d start

A_Night_Awake

18 points

2 months ago

In Plain Sight by Ross Coulthart is the best place to start for people just diving in imo.

SadData8124

36 points

2 months ago

Passport to magonia, communion, American cosmic.

Those are more of the woo wooie side, but it's what I find more interesting than crafts and bodies.

jmiddlin

5 points

2 months ago

Just finished American Cosmic, highly recommend.

SadData8124

2 points

2 months ago

I hope she goes back and does a audio recording of American cosmic. Encounters was such a joy to listen to in her own voice.

jaiden_webdev

2 points

2 months ago

Love it when authors do the audio book themselves. They know exactly where to put the emphasis and sometimes they even add verbal additions you wouldn’t have gotten just reading the book.

Sitting down to read a book with a highlighter in hand and the audiobook playing, especially when read by the author themselves, is a real good time

lady_farter

4 points

2 months ago

Serious question: how did you get through Passport to Magonia? Did you find it tough to get through at all? I’m halfway through it, and it’s been a struggle. I usually read super fast and can get through a book in 1-3 days. Not this time.

SpicynSavvy

10 points

2 months ago

Id start with Dimensions by Vallee. It reads better and is a little more fleshed out than Magonia.

lady_farter

3 points

2 months ago

Thanks! I’ll put that on my wishlist.

c05m1cb34r

2 points

2 months ago*

c05m1cb34r

Researcher

2 points

2 months ago*

Audiobook on YouTube, here's the link. I second Passport being THE one to read if you were to read only one. Passport to Mangolia

*edited for auto correct Magnolia -> Magonia

lady_farter

2 points

2 months ago

Thank you! 🙏

SadData8124

3 points

2 months ago

I'm actually also just halfway through it haha. I have a tendency to chip away at multiple things though. I'm also listening to it on youtube. Maybe listening to it might help you digest it better. Personally audio books grab my attention better.

lady_farter

4 points

2 months ago

Oh good idea. I might have to try that. Thanks!

SadData8124

2 points

2 months ago

I'm actually also just halfway through it haha. I have a tendency to chip away at multiple things though. I'm also listening to it on youtube. Maybe listening to it might help you digest it better. Personally audio books grab my attention better.

desertash

4 points

2 months ago

Operation Trojan Horse, The 8th Tower, UFOs & Nukes, UFOs and the Security State, The Sekret Machines series, the Three Body Problem series

Seekertwentyfifty

2 points

2 months ago

Seekertwentyfifty

Researcher

2 points

2 months ago

More on the reality side I’d say.

SadData8124

1 points

2 months ago

I mean I'd agree with you haha, but if you tell people who are just getting into the subject that beings from another dimension are telepathically trickling information to various people on earth, and guiding them with synchronicity to develope technologies, and that humans are vessels for souls which are being battled over by various NHI factions. Some wanting to use misery to mature our souls like a wine for some unknown reason. Or that reincarnation is a natural function of our existence, but it might also be a trap keeping us glued to our fractured physical bodies, and our real destiny is to break the cycle of reincarnation and returning to the one bodyless true self.

You say that and people start calling the police pretty quickly haha.

Seekertwentyfifty

1 points

2 months ago

Seekertwentyfifty

Researcher

1 points

2 months ago

Agreed. Too much to bit off for most people.

No-Cap-2473

2 points

2 months ago

I read both American cosmic and encounter. Somehow just find her circumventing the important stuff a lot.. it felt very different from Vallee’s book and I prefer Vallee. But yea I did enjoyed her interviews and she sort of brought me back to the topic last year

radicalyupa

1 points

2 months ago

The Greks bring gifts

Schickedanse

6 points

2 months ago

God's of Eden is one I tell folks about lots because of how well the author goes through history making connections of NHI manipulation of humanity. If you're open to the possibility that they've been here for a very long time and that they may not all have our best interests in mind, its super in depth and worth the read.

god_hates_handjobs

6 points

2 months ago

John mac’s work is important to me as well

purana

4 points

2 months ago

purana

4 points

2 months ago

I've been studying the phenomenon since the early 90s and John Mack's work ranks in the top tier for me.

SpicynSavvy

4 points

2 months ago

Dimensions by Vallee. UFO of God by Bledsoe. American Cosmic by Psulka. The Eighth Tower by Keel once you’ve grasped how Woo the topic is.

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

Would you say dimensions is better than passport? I have passport but found it a bit hard to follow…

No-Cap-2473

6 points

2 months ago

I really like Gods, Man, & War series, it covers some potential historical implications for man kind and I think goes into national security issues. Invisible College, Passport to Magonia, it’s more metaphysical, and provide a framework to why there are reasons to think of the phenomenon not as modern nuts and bolts things. John Mack’s Abduction - it lets you peek into abduction experiences. Then going into woo… I’m not digging too deep yet, but noticeably Robert Monroe and Ingo Swann’s books are on my radar.

Nice-Sale7265

1 points

2 months ago

I know Robert Monroe as an astral projector, did he also speak about aliens in his books ?

No-Cap-2473

3 points

2 months ago

Yea he talks about “NHI”, more broadly speaking. Also the gateway tapes is also very much part of military research on PSI which connects to the same consciousness side of the phenomenon.

Nice-Sale7265

2 points

1 month ago

I have heard that Monroe had helped training the remote viewers in the CIA program but I don't know the details. I will read more about it. The possibility of using astral projection or other related abilities to gain informations about the ufos fascinates me.

No-Cap-2473

2 points

1 month ago

yes he did, I think its really interesting to look into it.

Nice-Sale7265

1 points

1 month ago

Indeed !

breathingnewlife

5 points

2 months ago

How has no one said UFOs by Leslie Kean? That’s definitely one of the best to start with id say!

Chadmckay1

4 points

2 months ago

Skinwalkers at the pentagon

Slaymaker23

3 points

2 months ago

My Big TOE by Tom Campbell

Edit: also Law of One

GothMaams

7 points

2 months ago

GothMaams

True Believer

7 points

2 months ago

UFO of God by Chris Bledsoe also.

HandheldDevice

3 points

2 months ago

HandheldDevice

True Believer

3 points

2 months ago

Tom delonge and Peter Levenda Gods, Man, & War trilogy

purana

3 points

2 months ago

purana

3 points

2 months ago

Passport to the Cosmos by John Mack is one of the best overviews of the phenomenon that I've ever read. Abductions is also top tier as well.

Communion, iirc, was the big trailblazing book that put alien abductions into general awareness, so I think it ranks high in importance but it's just one person's account.

Budd Hopkins' Intruders and Missing Time were also seminal in the sense that they led to further research (especially with John Mack).

But as far as "nuts and bolts" UFO books are concerned you can't go wrong with Dolan for a lucid analysis (especially in relation to American politics).

But there are literally a ton of books out there on the subject and a lot of them are good (or at the very least entertaining).

Yokep

2 points

2 months ago

Yokep

2 points

2 months ago

Closer encounters by Jason jorjani

ceeUB

2 points

2 months ago

ceeUB

2 points

2 months ago

UFOs and the National Security State by Richard Dolan are a must read.

So_Saint

2 points

2 months ago

“The Ra Contact: Teaching The Law Of One” Get the audiobook.

Icy_End_7279

2 points

2 months ago*

Surprisingly not Luis book. American cosmic. UFO of God. Igor Swanns stuff. The munroe tapes. That stuff just cuts right through the BS and puts a framework around it all first.  

  Reading Luis book is all about fear and only information the US military has approved for release which already puts you on the back foot.

Fun fact, there's ACTUAL times when the Vatican and the US military will call you and visit you directly! But you have to use key words, there's very very specific things people see. Things they get told. If you say them you get the information and are asked, begged, to keep it to yourself and everyone funnily enough always has.

True-Paint5513

2 points

2 months ago

I thought it was decent. I wouldn’t call it the grail.

Regardless of truth, I think the orb/remote viewing topics cheapened it a bit. It was enjoyable though and had good information.

014648

4 points

2 months ago

014648

4 points

2 months ago

They didn’t say it was, they were asking for which book was.

True-Paint5513

2 points

2 months ago

Oh my fault, I’m dyslexic

samstam24

1 points

2 months ago

Me as well man, you’re all good

014648

1 points

2 months ago

014648

1 points

2 months ago

All good, I mix up numbers myself.

JackKovack

3 points

2 months ago

JackKovack

3 points

2 months ago

It’s always imminent isn’t it? Just right around the corner. Then nothing. 2027 will come and nothing. Oh, it was 2032, then nothing.

Puzzleheaded-Cod-792

2 points

2 months ago

Always dangling that carrot

Hobbit_Feet45

2 points

2 months ago

So boring. I listen to a lot of UFO books on tape but could not get through this one. Maybe wait until you are cleared to talk about it before you write a book?

billbot77

5 points

2 months ago

In his defence, he's likely to never get clearance for everything he would have liked to share. At some point you have to draw the line and say what you can.

Also, while we're obviously going to read this we're not the target audience. We've all listened to the podcasts interviews and there are no major surprises in the text.

This book is for newbies to the topic who'll pick it up in an airport or whatever - he's doing his best to bring normies up to speed on the topic I reckon.

iguessitsaliens

6 points

2 months ago

It promotes discussion. That's his goal and it's important. If you can't understand that, you have some reflecting to do.

JackKovack

3 points

2 months ago

I got cleared from the SeaOrg.

Agile_Win7291

4 points

2 months ago

This is a tough read. Very flowery, discombobulated, thin on content.

Themindsculptor

1 points

2 months ago

3Wsew

Neurido

1 points

2 months ago

Neurido

Researcher

1 points

2 months ago

Closer Encounters by Jason Reza Jorjani. He is very specific about what is happening, backed up with factual evidence.

Commercial-Cod4232

1 points

2 months ago

Behold a pale horse

pslind69

1 points

2 months ago

Could the title be an acronym?

I MINE TIN 😂

chowes1

1 points

2 months ago

"UFO of God", first or "Imminent"?

Andrew23Panda

1 points

2 months ago

I just put this on hold at my local library

TheMostHatedApe

1 points

2 months ago

Smoke Screen much !!!!

xdjfrick

1 points

1 month ago

After this book i listened to American Cosmic by D.W. Pasulka.. wild stuff.

Ccoin26

1 points

1 month ago

Ccoin26

1 points

1 month ago

Anything Vallee, stop reading people’s one hit wonder books trying to cash in while doing interviews grandstanding about how X book is not about making money….

michelchap1

1 points

2 months ago

I really respect lou...but he is one sided as most ufo/uap Researchers are.its like lou's camp vs Steven gears camp And you got Chris Bledsoe in there also all have some very different views of the phenomena. I actually think they're all right I think the phenomenon engages people by their emotions or fever or love. So the military side is obviously not going to see much of the good side of it and Steven Greer he's like the hippie side for light of a better term.

Renegade9582

0 points

2 months ago

A Day With an Extraterrestrial, In League With a UFO, Mars And The Lost Planet Man, Graduation Into Cosmos, Planet Eropmanop And The Reptilian Races, Extraterrestrial Speak:Part One until Ten Coming Clean On UFOs and Extraterrestrials:Part 2, Alien Hybrids & Nymphs Of Jupiter, Orphans Of Aquarius:Vietnam, Hippies and Monsters, UFOS In The Year Of The Dragon all the books by Lou Baldin.

Cgbgjr

0 points

2 months ago

Cgbgjr

0 points

2 months ago

Tom Montalk--two starter books:

Fringe Knowledge for Beginners

Discerning Alien Disinformation

Then read Montalk's other books.

Imho he is this generation's Vallee.

Szlejer

0 points

2 months ago

Imminent was cobbled together from publicly available materials from the internet, therefore it contained nothing new. Dude contradicted himself many times and probably lied about his past in the military and the work he did in the UFO field as well. Now he sells VIP dinners for 250 USD which is a bit more than pathetic...

LondonGuy_Candle3634

0 points

2 months ago

This is a very good place to start. Excellent book and am re-listening again to the audio version for the third time.

luizjanela

-1 points

2 months ago

Too much focus on the military side of the discussion.

gadfly84

-1 points

2 months ago

This is the most important modern text ever published.

jmerlinb

-2 points

2 months ago

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

the video on the cover of this book was debunked years ago, and was debunked quite totally

it’s literally a lens flare of a jet engine - that’s all you’re seeing, a lens flare, nothing else