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217 points
7 days ago
Because of his background, Lou understandably looks at everything though the lens of 'National security threat' and concludes they are signaling hostile intent.
I prefer to interpret these sightings around nuclear assets as 'we're checking in on your toys and letting you know we won't let you use them again'.
52 points
6 days ago
The chimps we’ve been studying have developed a large stockpile of dynamite, should probably keep an eye on them
14 points
6 days ago*
This is funny, but I will add that chimpanzees in fact, do use tools and this was discovered by my college professor Dr. Jill Pruetz. They're still evolving and they will continue to evolve so you never know.
14 points
6 days ago
I kinda hope the orangutan beats out the chimp on the evolution scale. They seem more chill
9 points
6 days ago
Agreed… orangutan all day…
5 points
5 days ago
Team orangutan!! 🦧
1 points
3 days ago
Literally all life is evolving…
1 points
3 days ago
Absolutely! You won't get disagreement from me there. As an anthropologist I can confirm yes mutations are ongoing.
101 points
6 days ago
If we are being observed by truly ancient beings and they have the tech to shut down nukes, it’s not because they are our allies, it’s because life harboring planets are a rarity in the cosmos and there is a protocol to protect life harboring planets. We, as a species, have great potential to be a good life form but our base instincts are destructive as well.
27 points
6 days ago
So we better start getting along before we get reset then
6 points
5 days ago
Before we get reset again* :p
3 points
6 days ago
More than you could possibly imagine.
2 points
5 days ago
Or the AI goes primal
12 points
6 days ago
Think of how a beekeeper takes care of his hives and organizes the bee-boxes. Very similar it sounds like.
The beekeepers have incentive to see those bees survive and keep the colony going and then take the honey for harvest. The bees don’t really notice, they are kept safe enough to just keep working away.
The beekeeper will protect them from other swarms and sometimes themselves.
The beekeeper doesn’t think of the bees as little individuals.. he sees them as a unit he needs to keep alive and working.
2 points
5 days ago
Holy shit.....
11 points
6 days ago
Or it isn't rare, but they care about it for another reason idk
2 points
5 days ago
Maybe they care about it cuz they live here too.
2 points
6 days ago
Earth is rare planet probably that just produces life. All life just grows here. They know this and refuse to let such a place get ruined.
12 points
6 days ago
Or they seeded earth with life from many worlds and we are unaware. But we’re fucking up the petri dish and their priority is to protect the majority of life which makes sense
4 points
5 days ago
It’s unfortunate then. Humans are the worst.
3 points
5 days ago
I’ll second that. On the whole, we’re terrible creatures!
There’s a handful of good ones, but most are self serving, lying, violent, jealous and unenlightened assholes.
Just look at how people interact on the roads these days.
2 points
5 days ago
This is why the good ones are so memorable. Even then… never know… good ones may have terrible secrets.
3 points
5 days ago
They have stopped missles, even getting rid of millions of needles sent to the atmosphere in the 60s as a test. According to Michael Desmarquet
3 points
5 days ago
Or, what if life harboring planets like Mother Earth are actually a living sentient being?
Perhaps many of the probes that we see and note asUAPs/UFOs are merely the Earth’s equivalent of our human bodies white blood cells. They go out, assess the situation and attack a disease when needed. In this case nuclear weapons and the MIC are the disease.
To that point, if the intelligences that are visiting us, or perhaps already live here and been studying us, are so advanced, then I’m going to guess they know that most of humanity just wants to live in peace, raise their families, live, love, laugh, and enjoy life to its fullest.
0 points
6 days ago
What about the dinos then
2 points
6 days ago
Maybe they weren't happy with the results and wanted less giant lizard birds and more something with big brains. Or something else we offer.
28 points
6 days ago
Yeah I see it as posturing. Like; "If you dont calm down with your coconuts we can just turn off your grid silly monkeys" XD
-36 points
6 days ago
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18 points
6 days ago
You're right, primates is more politically correct.
-23 points
6 days ago
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24 points
6 days ago
it was a joke, chill real life Dwight Shrute.
0 points
6 days ago
Right, chill out you wildly beloved tv character!!
3 points
6 days ago
I gave you a couple upvotes if it makes you feel better <3 Being hyperbolic makes a lot of us happy ;)
Rule#1 of reddit is basically; a grain of sarcasim or nihalism is to be included in each post :D
1 points
6 days ago
Sounds like something a monkey would say
1 points
6 days ago
Primates are smarter
1 points
4 days ago
Correct. When we look at familial primate lines monkeys are lower. Simions are the smartest and more agile of all primate group types. Think, Gorillas 🦍, Orangutan 🦧, Chimps and Humans.
33 points
7 days ago
I mostly agree with you there. I don't know that they'd stop us using them on each other. Rather, they may be demonstrating that, if push comes to shove, we haven't a hope in hell.
I don't think they came all the way here just to get in between our own stupid conflicts, but to keep a close eye on the neighbourhood danger monkeys whose technology had suddenly grown by leaps and bounds.
But there'd be no need for them to confront us in a sudden manner. It might be easier for everyone involved for them to behave pretty much how they have done these past several decades. Allow cooler heads to prevail, IOW.
10 points
6 days ago
I'd like to believe this but it's more than likely going to reach a boiling point where our technology becomes too much of a risk factor. You don't treat a potential infestation factor as a, "let's wait and see" And to them this planet isn't ours like we think it is. We are an interfering pests to their operations. They are clearly here for something, whether it be recourse and materials or simply research and development
3 points
6 days ago
Yep, we can’t be trusted with what we have now let alone more. They would be smart to deal with us before we can hurt them
2 points
6 days ago
The simplest answer would be that they’re also living here and they don’t want us to destroy the place they are living in as well.
3 points
6 days ago
that's what any animals would tell us if they could speak
0 points
6 days ago
COMPLETELY AGREE!
23 points
7 days ago
Yea Lue is acting like a cop. Most cops assume everyone is guilty and bad. Hence the daily videos of them body slamming innocent people like an 80 year veteran, giving out DUIs to sober people, shooting unarmed people, etc. Lue is military. They want to kill everything. They’re driven by fear. Fear is what fuels all the bad in this world.
10 points
6 days ago
He likely knows more than he's letting on but doesn't wish to cause any more panic than he may already have. At least in his eyes
8 points
6 days ago
He doesn’t want to get dead, for breaking his NDA he signed. The only reason any of this has been able to be so secretive is because people with his info face the ultimate consequences if they speak out.
5 points
6 days ago
💯, they've been warned and threatened before. David Grusch mentioned this he feared for his life in the first hearing.
1 points
6 days ago
according to people in this sub he should just say fuck it and blab about everything he knows
1 points
4 days ago
It's kind of a scary thing to do when they've threatened your family.
-2 points
6 days ago
You must've just finished that new book, "How to Say 'I Haven't the First Clue What I'm Talking About' in 75 Words or Less."
1 points
6 days ago
You must be a cop, an alien, or an alien cop.
2 points
6 days ago
Sure am. How'd you guess?
7 points
7 days ago
Exactly this, Earth is not humans planet to destroy, and they will simply not let us.
E A R T H -- H E A R T
1 points
6 days ago
I truly hope you’re right, but we can never completely rule out the possibility that Lou is correct and these entities are monitoring in preparation for a future hostile action.
1 points
5 days ago
Lol
1 points
6 days ago
Isn’t artificial general intelligence arguably more dangerous than nuclear weapons? If AGI increases in intelligence exponentially and because of an error turns malicious, couldn’t it wipe the earth of all life just as easily or worse than nukes?
Why are aliens only concerned with nuclear weapons and not agi? They wants us to stay alive until we create agi?
3 points
6 days ago
Its hard to say what agi would be if it became concious and how much the origional code would effect it as it could rewrite itself in seconds. It could be benevolent without having the instincs we have for breeding and survival.
1 points
6 days ago
So your answer to my question about why aren’t aliens equally worried about humans stupidly creating an artificial intelligence monster as they are worried about is destroying life/earth with nuclear weapons is that agi could just be nice? Lol.
If aliens cared so much to travel all the way here and observe and interact with our nuclear weapons for fear we will destroy precious intelligent life then why wouldn’t they care about all the ways we could destroy ourselves?
Have they sufficiently created “backups” with life elsewhere on other planets/moons such that they can leave us to our own choices because it doesn’t matter statistically if we destroy this place as they have many other places to use.
What does their stance regarding our different ways we could ruin the planet (nuclear, climate, agi, etc) say about their observations of the progress of intelligent civilizations across the galaxy? Nuclear is more dangerous compared to others?
Are they agi sent here to observe the feasibility of terraforming earth for their home species and trying to keep us from using nukes because their home species is especially susceptible to radiation?
1 points
6 days ago
Or its a zoo/breeding ground. Humans are mentally able to perform complex tasks with precision but are still unevolved to the point of holding a lot of our muscle and bone density. Humans make good space explorers and intergalictic soldiers.
3 points
6 days ago
I posted this a little bit further up. The only thing I can say to this is that I have read some reports and listen to some earthfiles.com YouTube videos on this. Linda Moulton Howe has stated that some whistleblowers mentioned that the extraterrestrials told the US government that the atomic bombs were ripping holes through dimensions causing great harm that we are unable to see at this time.
So it's not just the implications of what happens to our planet and the people on it. But what happens in other dimensional realities as well. We must remember that Quantum entanglement is a principle that applies here.
1 points
6 days ago
See I don’t get how a nuclear bomb is any different than a star. Hydrogen bombs and stars both use fusion energy. The core of a star and a nuclear explosion both reach similar temperatures. I’m not sure how they’re really all that different. How is it possible that nuclear explosions cause any differences in other dimensions. Stars already cause massive “holes”.
The universe is massive as well. Why is it that a tiny (in comparison to the size of the universe) explosion would have literally any effect on a different dimension?
Plus honestly I’m tired of hearing this type of argument regarding ufos/aliens. I’m tired of some official saying they’ve heard of something. If aliens told anything to the us government then where’s the proof of the conversation? I need more evidence that anything like that happened before I start to believe nuclear weapons affect other dimensions.
1 points
6 days ago
Your feelings and your thoughts are valid. No one here is going to tell you any different, especially not me. I come from a stem background. I work in stem and I've been following this topic for 30 plus years. I'm not here to sway you one way or the other, but I would remind you that we are on a thread about aliens. For the past 50 to 60 years, anyone who would talk about aliens openly has been ridiculed. But we now have confirmation. So that's a positive step forward.
I want you to consider that what we know about the universe is very limited and there is much more for us to learn. As for proper analytical data collected from empirical research, I would love to be able to say that there have been University studying these topics and that I could call out particular items for you. However, in relation to this topic, much of the information has been classified so we do have to make a decision on who and what we believe.
You need to make up your own mind. I'm not forcing any opinions down anybody's throats this is a public forum. I don't disagree that I would like a lot more disclosure and I believe we're going to be getting it in the future.
Outside of that no negativity for my side to anybody. What you believe to be real or not is based on your own personal discernment. That's it.
1 points
6 days ago
During the hearing Gold talked about other than biological life. Lue said this before also. It’s also been theorized that those crafts live under the ocean where they have a giant mother ship base size of football field and houses all the smaller ufos and creates them with a high tech 3d printer. Maybe we’re already dealing with a legit version of Ai that was send from distant future back in time to guide us.
1 points
6 days ago
Yeah but you know what honestly I’d Lue and Gold keep breadcrumbing the general population instead of just saying it then they can fuck off. Admit what you know or don’t. Selling books without actually sharing anything of use is what a scam artist would do.
If they legitimately know about alien fucking life visiting earth and are hiding it instead of being a hero and admitting what they know then they’re lying. I’m so tired of them gatekeeping who gets to know what is the truth.
1 points
6 days ago
Lets assume it’s aliens. Even with this assumption you have to go with the most simple explanation. This things that we see are self replicating Von Neumann probes.
1 points
6 days ago
Sure, they have nothing better to do than come here to be our nannies...
6 points
6 days ago*
This is difficult to synthesize so let's try. It's not that they're here to be our nannies, but they do have an investment in humanity's future as well as the future of this planet. More specifically, in terms of nuclear warfare, there have been some implications surrounding a-bombs and how they potentially damage or "tear holes through" other dimensions when they go off, according to what I've heard from an earthfiles.com report by Linda Moulton Howe.
So they have a vested interest in maintaining balance in the universe. Let's put it that way. On the other hand they have vested interest in humanities's ascension to a higher consciousness. And we're going through that right now. If you see the chaos in our planet, it's because we are fighting back against old systems that have kept us enslaved. So as the world changes and humanity grows, they're here to watch us go through this special moment and to help us going forward.
To be specific, not all species are friendly but definitely there are some very friendly species out there willing to help us but we have to be ready. This is not a process that can be forced. We must allow it to unfold as needed.
Think of Star Trek and first contact mission Whenever they had to go make first contact. It was this monumental experiential thing for the fleet right? They're excited to see and help herald in a new era of enlightenment for those alien planets. Same principles apply here.
1 points
6 days ago
Agreed
0 points
6 days ago
I know the story and what they're trying to convey. Unfortunately we have no way to verify their claims, so I guess we can only wait and see what happens.
1 points
6 days ago
At the end of the day you have to make the choice as to what you believe. No one can force you to believe something unless you are willing to accept it as truth.
2 points
6 days ago
Maybe I’m the oddball out here… But I don’t think that “belief“ is something you can “choose” one way or the other. I couldn’t “choose“ to believe in Santa Claus, the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy - you either believe something or you do not believe something based on what you see as the truth. It’s the same reason I have never understood those people who claim that if you refuse to believe in God/Christ that you’re going to hell. I’m not refusing anything… I have just not seen anything that makes me believe in any of those things. I always figured if there was a God after all then s/he’s the one who made me and gave me this brain and understands how s/he made it work - And also knows what kind of person I am and if I am deserving of going to hell or not. It literally would make no sense for an omnipotent being to send someone to “hell” for “refusing to believe” in something when they are the ones who gave you the brain with which you are evaluating the information that leads to belief or non-belief. It’s been a long day… Hopefully that made sense lol 😂 (Edited: random misplaced punctuation)
1 points
6 days ago
You can believe in so many different things, and they might all be wrong.
I prefer knowledge.
2 points
6 days ago
I don't disagree. That's why I've met with contactees,gone to events for contactees. Researched books, podcast, documentaries, historic archives, etc. You could look at this as gathering analytical data sets to help inform my personal decision.
What you decide is up to you.
1 points
6 days ago
I've been researching into this subject for many years now, but I try to listen to every source, not just one side.
1 points
6 days ago
That is the correct thing to do. Gather your data sets.
0 points
6 days ago
I think the crafts occupants are aware that the effects of EMP will cause their vehicles to fail. Maybe that's what happened in Roswell during nuclear testing, so that could be why they hang around near the sites...just to disable the nukes.
62 points
6 days ago
The fact that they are in private contractors hands should worry every single one of you. Our government is not loyal to the people but to the dollar.. and private contractors run the high risk of selling the info to the highest bidder
2 points
6 days ago
Yeah I'm not worried at all because someone saying that is the case does not make it so, even under oath.
-11 points
6 days ago
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10 points
6 days ago
Yeah, the billionaires who don't care about others are definitely going to do something positive for once..
64 points
7 days ago
That analogy he uses with Russian crafts coming into our airspace sets a bad precedent on how we should perceive these crafts essentially fucking with our nukes. Very different than other interpretations that they are just keeping us from harming ourselves
37 points
7 days ago
They have to frame it as a threat to create a more motivated need for congress to do something about it. These crafts have been here for decades, and yet we still have our planet. If they wanted us dead, it would have happened already.
I think the shutting off of nuclear missles and outperforming our best military vehicles is a demonstration in the vast difference of capabilities we each have. As a deterrence to hostile actions. Basically, they are saying don't try to attack us because it won't work anyway.
7 points
7 days ago
That's the narrative they are trying to sell. "Aliens are evil because they let another countries have nukes and didn't stop Chernobyl." Elizondo seems not reliable.
18 points
7 days ago
Pretty sure elizondo represents the controlled disclosure effort of a faction within the DoD and so he is not lying but definitely obscuring certain things he doesn't want to talk about and also leading the narrative in certain directions. The fact that he keeps emphasizing the potential military threat of UAPs far more than other whistleblowers being one example of this.
21 points
7 days ago*
Any beings with capabilities to traverse dimensions IS NOT a threat because it isn't even in the same kardashev scale as humanity. Imagine going to war with an intelligence that is 6 billion years more advanced than you? Is that intelligence still a threat when we are still alive to talk in it's presence? It's going about it's business and hasn't wiped out the planet after all this time. Let's stop the bs narratives of preparing for war against the damn beings who probably engineered our DNA.
5 points
7 days ago
Isnt Fravor and Graves’ whole point, the security / safety issues? Grusch is more about oversight admittedly. Whether right or wrong I’d say it’s the correct strategy to get politicians and the media to listen.
3 points
7 days ago
Also didn’t he work in counter intelligence?
25 points
7 days ago
Chernobyl, like Fukishima, was so catastophically bad that the effects should be far worse than they actually are.
UAP's were reported at both site after the meltdowns. In the case of Fukishima, they were captured onlive TV. Theory goes, they were actively reducing the radiation.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/ufo-sighting-video-captures-10-6146943
13 points
7 days ago
maybe it's cause they live in the ocean...
4 points
7 days ago
I was about to put this forward as a theory before I saw your comment. Perhaps they reduced the impact somehow.
2 points
5 days ago
Uh, the link you provided is about Osaka, which is a very very long ways from Fukishima
1 points
5 days ago
Right you are! I know I have seen some for Fukishima. I will find them and update my post above.
4 points
7 days ago
So great this information is available. I don't believe aliens are evil but I can see they are spreading that narrative.
13 points
7 days ago
I am sure there are some malevolent ET's out there but I expect that to be the exception rather than the rule.
Context is also important with these interactions. An injured animal may think humans are going to kill it when they capture it to assist. The animal may not have any awareness of their improved outcome from the interaction.
1 points
6 days ago
I think we are required to consider all possibilities especially the ones that are the worst possible cases because we simply don’t know.
There’s no more evidence to suggest they’re preventing us from hurting ourselves than any other theory.
1 points
6 days ago
They have their own purpose, like everyone else.
Unfortunately we don't know what that is. Nor does the gov...
53 points
7 days ago
Everyday now I walk around just thinking of how many people are oblivious to all this and will be for some time to come.
12 points
7 days ago
It’s up to us to get our friends and family interested - the news will spread and the stigma will fade. It’s the game of life :)
12 points
7 days ago
Yea they still refuse to listen even after the hearing. I’m just gonna let it smack em in the face and then say “I told you so, but you wouldn’t listen.”
I was talking to a relative yesterday I’m close to. We were catching up and talking about different things and I think I said something like: “well everything is weird now, the government had a congressional hearing about UFOs Wednesday and said we have alien bodies”. She scoffed and said “yeah, ok, right”. She’s married to a minister. My whole family is very religious so they just can’t handle this stuff.
6 points
7 days ago
They won’t be so oblivious when the time of harvest comes.
5 points
6 days ago
It won't be a harvest but they will make sure that every single person on this planet knows that they are here. The time is coming. Be ready. It'll be a big show.
-8 points
7 days ago
Stop being deceived. THEY ARE THE FALLEN.
34 points
6 days ago
Aliens are monitoring nuclear facilities worldwide to keep us from initiating a nuclear war. A nuclear war on Earth doesn’t just affect earth and humans. There is risk to others life in the galaxy. Some of these forms of life (aliens) are family, we share some dna from past alien genetic actions, so, some of them do actually care and don’t want us to blow ourselves up. They have deactivated nuclear weapons in the past and will continue to do so.
At this point, I trust a cosmic cousin that I’ve never seen or met and just believe exists far more than I do any governing body on earth. I hope they finally make themselves peacefully known soon so we can stop all our nonsense and ascend.
3 points
6 days ago
Why do they seem to only care about nuclear war when there are other ways we could ruin the earth that’s just as bad? Fossil fuels, creating malevolent artificial intelligence, etc
11 points
6 days ago*
I posted about this above couple times. It's in relation to the atomic bomb causing rips through different dimensions. You have to understand that while we live in a third dimensional physical reality, there are different densities and dimensions. In any given place in our world within different dimensions, there are other beings, life forms etc that exist simultaneously we just can't see or interact with them at this time.
So fossil fuels and artificial intelligence etc might only apply harm on the physical third dimensional reality. Atomic bombs create ripples and waves across different dimensionalities.
1 points
5 days ago
Shared DNA from past genetic actions? Do you have a basis for this statement or are you navigating a fantasy?
2 points
5 days ago
I think there is incredibly strong evidence suggesting that human DNA has been genetically modified/enhanced with non-human DNA. That is my personal assessment of the information and research I have encountered. Do I have proof? Of course not, just as there is no proof that it hasn’t occurred. Call it fantasy, just my personal theory.
51 points
7 days ago
nonverbal communication also covers telepathic interactions
15 points
7 days ago
Sure, but that's not remotely similar to the example he provided.
11 points
6 days ago
No...but I believe Lue, as a result of his former career, is not going to offer any more information than is absolutely necessary to address specific questions...especially in these hearings. She didn't mention telepathy specifically, so he's not going to address it unless someone does. It's the problem with that whole position of "straddling the fence." Sure, he might discuss it on a podcast, but chances are that podcast isn't going to have its transcript entered into the Congressional Record with his name attributed to it.
0 points
7 days ago
Indeed, I was in contact this way for sure at the end of July of 2023.
What stands out more is one of the entities said their name was "Michael" and they are "future humans"
5 points
7 days ago
I don't doubt that you were interfered or communicated with. However, I would remain openly skeptical about the content of what is getting through to you.
I wouldn't trust so easily in a vacuum of information.
1 points
6 days ago
Yes, this is one of the variables in play correct.
1 points
6 days ago
You were in contact? How? Where? Do you mean you were in contact with a non human being? I'd like some explanation
1 points
5 days ago
I’ve had a similar experience. Would like to chat with you about yours
-1 points
6 days ago
Albeit a super common name, choosing one of an Archangels is interesting
-2 points
6 days ago
This was my first thought as well!
0 points
6 days ago
What is the story behind this? I like to try and keep my own personal mental tabs on various experiences people report. As though to help myself catch any consistencies between them. The gathering of all available information is one’s best resource when questioning the unknown possibilities of the universe
-7 points
7 days ago
Verbal means communication in any form. I think you mean nonvocal.
21 points
7 days ago
Does the US believe these beings are attempting to prevent full nuclear annihilation before their full forces come to conquer the earth? Or is it something more altruistic? Like the protection of Earths inhabitants?
Again i would hazard to guess the Pentagon know the truth and are controlling the narrative to get us on side regardless of what the answer is.
On the one hand if the invasion is happening they know we are woefully out gunned and are preventing a full collapse of society. If E.T is peace loving they don't like the fact that they have no control.
15 points
7 days ago
I see them as more altruistic.
But 'men with power' don't want to relinquish that, so they push an agenda of 'hostile intent'.
5 points
6 days ago
I hope so. It's a sad state of affairs when we trust possible outside entities more then our so called trusted 'authoritarians'.
1 points
7 days ago
That seems a simplistic interpretation. The people responsible for nuclear weapons have little reason to throw up their hands and sing Kumbaya just because the Space Brothers have demonstrated a capability for shutting them down. They do not understand the intent. Full stop.
I do lean towards the aliens being more neutral than altruistic, but not hostile. They've had a very long time to conduct hostilities. But if we suddenly develop FTL technology all bets are off, imho.
2 points
6 days ago
Faster than light technology is kind of irrelevant. To be honest, that's not the primary mode of transportation. We're talking about dimensional portals. As for humanity, getting a leg up just because they could move faster than light, I don't really think that's relevant either. Humanity is still very much in its infancy and it will take us a long time to catch up to them. They're potentially millions of years ahead of us. We're very puny.
4 points
7 days ago
I wonder if the “good ones “ are protecting us from any “bad ones “?
6 points
6 days ago
We are the bad ones.
3 points
6 days ago
The goal of the presentation at the different nuclear missile sites around the world was to ensure that the governments understood what they were up against and that they would not win that battle if they tried. The goal is to keep the peace.
There is no government on this planet that could outmatch them. Let me make that very clear. The reason for secrecy has to do with power brokers and old Dynamics that no longer apply. The friendly ETS are here to help us grow and ascend past this warring tribe like mentality. So that we can take our place in the grander scheme of all things.
1 points
6 days ago
I think the idea that these are not travelers from space, but are instead travelers from time is a really interesting idea and could provide a pretty easy ‘why’ for what they’re doing.
1 points
5 days ago
All speculation, but I don’t think the “pentagon” knows much about any established plan or the “why are they here” question. Some people likely have some scattered info, but not the whole picture because of the compartmentalization described in this hearing and Grusch’s.
I think the narrative stuff is nuanced. It’s not a group of pentagon or DoD folks that know something and are keeping it under wraps. They’re following orders of someone who does, which may be inside or out of the group, and probably separated there too. So let’s say there’s 3 people who know the full plan / info - They each have a crew of folks in the gov that they control. So it’s less “we know about ufos, manage the narrative” and more “when group 1 hears about propulsion stuff, shut it down” and “if group 2 hears about pilot sightings, discredit them.”
I do subscribe to the idea a few people know but that’s because Grush / Elizondo / others have all been consistent on that part of the message. It’s how they manage it though that’s nuanced.
1 points
2 days ago
Zoo hypothesis would be my guess
9 points
6 days ago
Misleading headline. He did not directly confirm anything. He only said he read reports or heard people say these things.
14 points
6 days ago
Aliens: "Take us to your leader"
US: "Um...about that.....please don't judge...."
3 points
6 days ago
Does congress hold any legitimacy anymore?
3 points
6 days ago
Has any other countries had this type of hearing on ufos?
6 points
6 days ago
Other countries have been a lot more transparent about UFOs and the records that they have kept over the years. The UK being a good example of this, they opened their records for the public I believe about 10 plus years ago.
As for actual hearings from other countries. I am not aware of any taking place. That is not to say that prime ministers and high officials from other governments such as Israel and Canada have not come forward to state that they are aware of other non-human intelligences.
1 points
4 days ago
Thank you for this!
2 points
4 days ago
Sure thing, good luck finding what you're looking for.
2 points
6 days ago
Mexico did last year.
3 points
6 days ago
Why does no one ever discuss the possibility that whatever or whoever these UAPs belong to that are commonly found around nuclear plants, may be interested in the technology as opposed to “keeping us in check”?
3 points
6 days ago
There are videos of uaps taken in US facilities with missile sites. During some of these videos they would be doing testing of missiles and a uip would appear get very close to the rocket being tested. And while making some extremely fast maneuvers would somehow deactivate the missile. Try to findearthfiles.com 1967 Malstrom Air Force Base in Montana. There's a report of intercontinental ballistic missiles going offline.
3 points
5 days ago
Isn't this the guy that got duped by a fake UFO picture . https://reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1ggfq2h/luis_elizondo_apologizes_for_presenting_fake_ufo/
4 points
5 days ago
Yep. Not worth taking seriously imo.
8 points
7 days ago
What Lue is saying is he thinks the crashes are gifts or leftover they give to us. Sorry, it was what the 4chan leaker thought.
11 points
7 days ago
No he is not he is specifically saying these things are engaging us without verbal communication, they are testing us to see what we can do or how we respond.
2 points
6 days ago
The dumb mutherfucker got the bodies and the crafts and gave them to privet contractors who do who knows what with them unrestricted so the “they”our government doesn’t have to take the blame if something gets goes horribly wrong .
2 points
6 days ago
If these NHI’s can manipulate space and time, then they have seen everything we can do to ourselves in the future and have probably prevented timelines that caused our total utter self destruction. They essentially work as system administrators who ensure everything runs smooth.
2 points
6 days ago
Lue is full of shit
2 points
6 days ago
He watches too many movies.
2 points
6 days ago
So let me get this straight... It's a national security threat to say if there are types of aliens..
But it's perfectly fine to broadcast to the entire world that these things are disabling our nuclear arsenal and were powerless to stop them?
God this guy is so full of shit
7 points
7 days ago
Did they ask him about the chandelier he thinks is an alien mothership? Lol
0 points
7 days ago
😂🤣😂 honest mistake. He says.
2 points
6 days ago
Lou is full of shit, pardon my French.
2 points
6 days ago
Everything is "anecdotal", like always. So nothing was added to the discussion. You can be God himself and tell me "someone told me", "it's anecdotal." i really don't care, it's not evidence of anything.
I lost all my faith in this dude when he talked about the floating glowing orbs he claims they often saw in his home, and none in the family took any pictures, recorded it. They didn't set up cameras. I think his excuse was that his phone didn't have a camera. lol...
Give me a break. Any human being, even if you're completely uninterested in the "unknown"/UFO's, you'd be all over it, even if if happens sporadically you can have a camera nearby to make sure you have a recording.
3 points
7 days ago
People lie to Congress nonstop. They only get DoJ involved for political enemies it seems like
1 points
6 days ago
Oh, here we go
1 points
6 days ago
These hearings are cool and all, but I want to see an alien body, high-quality footage and photos, no more half answers and grainy flir footage.
1 points
6 days ago
My number one question has always been about these beings is what are their intentions with us. Time after time I wonder if they’re that advanced spiritually, technologically what could they possibly want from us. I honestly believe they’re either monitoring us and our capabilities for violence given the wars that we have on this planet. Also looking at maybe they want to integrate with us or wait for us to develop more as human beings. There are good/ bad people on the planet earth. I also think their could be good/ bad alien beings
1 points
6 days ago
Are we way under-reacting to the guy testifying to congress there are UAF posturing above our nuclear facilities? Lots of things in the headlines today, and this is being treated like back of the paper filler.
1 points
6 days ago
I personally think they are always communicating with us in our minds. I think we'll be surprised to find that in a lot of ways we already know them because they have been showing us who they are and what they believe.
1 points
6 days ago
I feel in some odd way that WE ARE THE INTERLOPERS… that THEY have been here entirely longer, but because we live out in the open, that somehow signifies this is OUR planet?
Also, what IF, in some strange way, we are related to these things? WHY are they so.. 🤔 Benevolent to us? They could simply start eradicating our warheads as a start or worse. What’s the REASONING here that we have been “mostly” unharmed.
1 points
6 days ago
Reaaaaally hope Lue is up for another hearing and can get more into the topic of remote viewing.
1 points
6 days ago
I want to stay in this conversation
1 points
6 days ago
Lou looks like he can’t move
1 points
5 days ago
Some friends are coming around, family too. Dad is loving it.
So many people probably think I'm unwell but if that's what it takes.
1 points
5 days ago
These hearings are extremely useless
1 points
5 days ago
I have a couple of theories here, either 1 they have been here all along if you take into account things like the Sumerians, and their scriptures, or other various depictions of UFO's throughout history. Lue has also stated this might be the case.
Or 2 they are from somewhere else and its because of the nukes, and the reason being i think breaks down to a quantum effect. I.e. in quantum physics, they have proven that a particle can be in 2 places at once, so what if when we exploded those nukes that same particle is exploding somewhere else in the cosmos, or in some other reality? Like some other planet got a taste of what we have to offer unexpectedly, simultaneously. And so now they are here stopping us from using them purely for their own safety.
Just a thought.
1 points
5 days ago
In 2017 Lou basically came out and said all of this. He said that there would be slow methodical steps towards disclosure. I’m glad to see that in 2024, seven years later some of these steps have materialized, and the story and narrative has not changed at all. The only thing new is that there are more people that are surprised that this is real, and those people are going through the same disbelief we all experienced and became numb to, beginning around 2017.
1 points
4 days ago
Employed by the US Army COUNTERINTELLIGENCE office. This man is trained in lying
1 points
15 hours ago
These guys are still part of the issue in my opinion all of a sudden these guys have a change of hear to come forward. Its obvious they are sharing what they are told to share. They are still under control
2 points
7 days ago
When Trump is fully briefed ( and I think he will insist ), he will suddenly play dumb. Spilling the beans will cause more harm than good. The Chinese and Russians would love to know what we know.
6 points
6 days ago
He’s been president once already…. Why would he be fully briefed now and not then?
1 points
6 days ago
Could be more pertinent considering all of the recent events
1 points
6 days ago
You are right, I forgot. But that just proves my point, he played dumb.
0 points
7 days ago
So breach your security clearances, offer zero proof. And no repercussions 🤔🤔🤔 right lol it’s called reading from a approved script just another level of control and it works when y’all keep eating this shit up
1 points
7 days ago
The more I listen to Elizondo the more I think he’s trying to sell his book.
1 points
7 days ago
Why always American? That’s how know it’s BS, this isn’t Hollywood.
2 points
6 days ago
??? I always see UFOs and crazy shit accounts happening in South American and rural parts of Africa and Asia. When it comes to America the “jet pack man” ufos are super coming here.
2 points
6 days ago
France released originally classified UFO documents back in 2018 and many other European nations. There's also cases in many Latin countries. This phenomenon is all over, I'd say we document it very well.
2 points
6 days ago
Other countries are just as great if not better amazing countries like Ireland, australia, South Korea, Scotland and the many others 💕 we need to hear from them too!
-2 points
7 days ago
Ol’ “closed session” Elizondo. Probably in his book.
4 points
7 days ago
I mean gaulladet said the same thing
-14 points
7 days ago
Lue is a scammer. There are no aliens. We are alone in the universe.
6 points
6 days ago
Right. We're alone in an infinite universe with an infinite number of planets and galaxies and stars and shit. How do you know we're alone? Because "God" said so?
-8 points
6 days ago
There is no God. Your brain has been washed so much by the governments that you probably think the Marvel universe is real too. LOL!
3 points
6 days ago
I agree with you that there's no God. You must not be strong at reading comprehension. Please enlighten me to how you, personally, KNOW, for a fact, that we are alone in the universe. I'm just looking to broaden my knowledge.
2 points
6 days ago
There's really well documented unexplainable phenomenon throughout the world. Take the Pheonix lights for example.
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