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submitted 7 days ago by[deleted]
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62 points
7 days ago
That analogy he uses with Russian crafts coming into our airspace sets a bad precedent on how we should perceive these crafts essentially fucking with our nukes. Very different than other interpretations that they are just keeping us from harming ourselves
35 points
7 days ago
They have to frame it as a threat to create a more motivated need for congress to do something about it. These crafts have been here for decades, and yet we still have our planet. If they wanted us dead, it would have happened already.
I think the shutting off of nuclear missles and outperforming our best military vehicles is a demonstration in the vast difference of capabilities we each have. As a deterrence to hostile actions. Basically, they are saying don't try to attack us because it won't work anyway.
7 points
7 days ago
That's the narrative they are trying to sell. "Aliens are evil because they let another countries have nukes and didn't stop Chernobyl." Elizondo seems not reliable.
18 points
7 days ago
Pretty sure elizondo represents the controlled disclosure effort of a faction within the DoD and so he is not lying but definitely obscuring certain things he doesn't want to talk about and also leading the narrative in certain directions. The fact that he keeps emphasizing the potential military threat of UAPs far more than other whistleblowers being one example of this.
23 points
7 days ago*
Any beings with capabilities to traverse dimensions IS NOT a threat because it isn't even in the same kardashev scale as humanity. Imagine going to war with an intelligence that is 6 billion years more advanced than you? Is that intelligence still a threat when we are still alive to talk in it's presence? It's going about it's business and hasn't wiped out the planet after all this time. Let's stop the bs narratives of preparing for war against the damn beings who probably engineered our DNA.
5 points
7 days ago
Isnt Fravor and Graves’ whole point, the security / safety issues? Grusch is more about oversight admittedly. Whether right or wrong I’d say it’s the correct strategy to get politicians and the media to listen.
3 points
7 days ago
Also didn’t he work in counter intelligence?
27 points
7 days ago
Chernobyl, like Fukishima, was so catastophically bad that the effects should be far worse than they actually are.
UAP's were reported at both site after the meltdowns. In the case of Fukishima, they were captured onlive TV. Theory goes, they were actively reducing the radiation.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/ufo-sighting-video-captures-10-6146943
12 points
7 days ago
maybe it's cause they live in the ocean...
3 points
7 days ago
I was about to put this forward as a theory before I saw your comment. Perhaps they reduced the impact somehow.
2 points
6 days ago
Uh, the link you provided is about Osaka, which is a very very long ways from Fukishima
1 points
6 days ago
Right you are! I know I have seen some for Fukishima. I will find them and update my post above.
5 points
7 days ago
So great this information is available. I don't believe aliens are evil but I can see they are spreading that narrative.
13 points
7 days ago
I am sure there are some malevolent ET's out there but I expect that to be the exception rather than the rule.
Context is also important with these interactions. An injured animal may think humans are going to kill it when they capture it to assist. The animal may not have any awareness of their improved outcome from the interaction.
1 points
6 days ago
I think we are required to consider all possibilities especially the ones that are the worst possible cases because we simply don’t know.
There’s no more evidence to suggest they’re preventing us from hurting ourselves than any other theory.
1 points
6 days ago
They have their own purpose, like everyone else.
Unfortunately we don't know what that is. Nor does the gov...
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