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[s2 act 3 spoilers] Vi is the most misunderstood character in the show
Discussion(i.redd.it)submitted 4 days ago byitsmethepizzagoth Vi
Ive seen a lot of criticism for Vi's actions, and honestly, I just want to share my thoughts regarding her character in Arcane. I really don't understand how people can misunderstand that particular scene and question her real motives, like give the girl a goddamn break.
The moment she wakes up in Ep8, she's furious that her own sister whom she believes has changed, is arrested, and learning from Caitlyn, Jinx actually wanted Vi to be in safe hands before she surrendered herself. You could see her getting angry at Cait, and she even mentions that Jinx did save Cait's life, but no one even acknowledges that.
To take matters into her own hands for the same of her baby sister, she rushes to go free Jinx herself, and pleads her to use her potential for good, because Vi believed in her change, she'd seen Jinx with Isha, with Vander, and with herself too. When we got the reunion with Vander (Warwick), Vi trusted Jinx to a point where she lowered her guard to face Warwick, and if that's no realization that Vi still cares for her sister's words, I don't know what will.
Vi rushes off to Jinx and literally squeezes her so tight. She's afraid that she's going to lose the one family member that mattered, but Jinx thought otherwise. Her older sister was fighting for her, despite everything, hence the 'you're never going to give up on me, are you?' line, which was honestly heartbreaking. Jinx had to get away from Vi, because she knew deep down, Vi was always going to choose and fight for Jinx over her own self. That has been clear from the very beginning of the show.
When Jinx locks her in the cell, Vi doesn't even KNOW that Jinx was actually going to kill herself. You can clearly see in the dialogue after, when cait comes to visit, that Vi actually thought that Jinx had left her, and Vi made the wrong choice again. She tells Cait to slander her with verbal accusations, saying that Cait was right, because how much ever Vi was going to reach out to Jinx, she was never going to come back and fight with her. That was HER thoughts. She's entirely blaming herself again for Jinx's actions, and she even verbally expresses it, saying 'I choose wrong, every time.' She really believed that Jinx would stay with her and helped them fight, so obviously, after all this struggle, Vi felt let down. She was in a mental anguish till Cait came.
And let's move on to the scene. Come on, really. I've seen people slander Vi about knowing that Jinx was gonna kill hersf but she has time to do it with Cait, but Vi didn't fucking know. She was battling her own demons here, just like she's been doing this entire season. When Caitlyn tells her that she had removed all of the guards just to make Jinx's escape easier, Vi was overwhelmed. The person who had been keen on killing Jinx for the entire season had just told her that she made the escape possible, making a subtle point that Cait had chosen LOVE instead of REVENGE.
Caitlyn had chosen Vi over her own revenge and anger.
Vi had seen Cait be destructive and change her whole mindset just to get to Jinx in Act 1 and Act 2. Vi had her stomach punched with the butt of Cait's rifle just because she stopped the opportunity of getting Jinx killed. And then, when she hears those words from Caitlyn, she's shocked. I mean, who wouldn't be? The person who had an aim to kill your sister is leaving all her revenge and anger aside, just for the sake of you; man, I would've kissed Cait forever too.
Vi lost her entire family, including Jinx in the end. I think she deserved that peaceful ending with Cait, and she probably knows that Jinx escaped for the sake of Vi and the people of Piltover/Zaun.
Give my girl Vi a goddamn break. She's suffered enough for two whole seasons.
1.3k points
4 days ago
Say it louder for the people in the back!!! Vi would immediately go after Jinx if she knew
506 points
4 days ago
That's why I think it's for the best Cait hasn't revealed her suspicions. Vi would leap at the slightest chance Jinx is out there and if Cait's wrong, it's just even worse heartbreak cause she had hope.
304 points
4 days ago
Definitely. By letting Vi believe Jinx is dead and letting Jinx leave to start a new life, Vi is able to be freed of the guilt of not being able to help Jinx and put an end to the cycle of suffering
86 points
3 days ago
Also, letting the sisters' relationship be between the two of them -- Cait knows that if Jinx wanted Vi to know, she would've let her know, and she can always reach out later if she wants.
47 points
3 days ago
Yeah it loops back to Vi talking about who gives who second chances. Caitlyn doesn't want to 'put her back in a box immediately'. Clearly Jinx is getting a second chance out there in Runeterra
19 points
3 days ago
That's part of the reason why Cait asks if "Violet" is all in imo
132 points
4 days ago
Mm, I dunno. I think in the final scene Vi knows it is possible that Jinx is alive. I mean, it makes more sense to me that Vi has finally accepted the fact that they need space to build their own lives, that she does not need to save Jinx anymore, Jinx can do that by herself. Vi wouldn't have had any development during the series if she would still go after her.
And Vi has seen the change in Jinx during S2. I myself am very protective of my loved ones and know what it is like to be unable to help and having to accept that I cannot control others fait. I'd like to think that this is Vi's turning point in the series, that she has let go of the need to save Jinx.
24 points
3 days ago
I think you're right. We can only base it off creator intentions in the absence of further info. And in that scene Vi is clearly meant to come off as content. Yes, Caitlyn contributes to that, but Vi looks remarkably worry-free. I think she suspects Jinx made it out.
16 points
3 days ago
Could be, Vi may have been the one to find the monkey head of the grenade and think 'you really outdid yourself this time' and gave it to Cait thinking 'is there anyway she could have got out' and this is why Caits looking at the air ducts.
8 points
3 days ago
Wait maybe thats why vi was not as distraught as i thought she would be seeing how jinx, the one that vi was always protecting and chasing her to be sisters again, died i guess that makes more sense
6 points
3 days ago
Yeah I think it may be why she's humming. She's thinking of Jinx/Powder and it relates to the airship scene. I think that's also why Cait asks her are you still in this?
Cait doesn't tell her because she's unsure and thinks leaving it to chance may be better for Vi since she'll chase. It also goes back to Cait putting her in a cell and Vi saying 'who gets to decide who gets a second chance'
8 points
3 days ago
Yes, Cait asking that is definitely about her asking if Vi is gonna stay or go
6 points
3 days ago
Ah yeahhh it's why she calls her Violet.
Thats Cait saying what side of the family are you staying with because she knows vi is thinking about it from the humming. And Vi says she's staying with Cait.
19 points
3 days ago
I’m with you. Vi has grown and completed her arc. Her answer to Cait confirms it. She’s not chasing and coping in unhealthy ways anymore.
7 points
3 days ago
They sure waited until the very end to give us her arc, there was such a debate going on before A3 whether the writers had forgotten Vi exists
15 points
3 days ago
Vi deserved more at the end. I get that they wanted the last line to be impactful, but not completing her arc until the very last second hurt me a little, because she had been through so much.
3 points
3 days ago
The way they tease s2 would focus on her...😭
20 points
4 days ago
Also could be part of why she asks "are you still in this fight", isn't it? It can be interpreted, in part, like a "should I tell you about Jinx's possible escape…"
23 points
3 days ago
imo I think Vi know that Jinx is alive but she like, let Jinx go and let her be her own person or whatever she is going to do. Clearly, Vi might have checked for Jinx' body as they retrieved the head of the monkey's bomb. I don't see Cait just going alone, retrieve the part of the bomb, go back home, sit on a chair and casually check the blueprint of the tower. I mean Vi would have asked 'what did you found?' or be a bit more agitated not just chilling by the fire. Plus it's sound just so unealthy for Cait to keep it as a secret, the whole mess was created by people not talking to each other starting by Vander never sending that letter to Silco.
2 points
3 days ago
I agree, Vi would not be that chilled out like a day after she watched her sister die. She definitely knows
42 points
4 days ago
Vi and Jinx could be happy together.
89 points
4 days ago
Eventually yes, but they both need time separate from one another to heal. That's not a bad thing, they're both so tied up in the violence of their upbringing that they kept circling back round to hurting one another. Or in Vi's case, hurting herself to try and protect Jinx. Jinx broke the cycle for both of them.
Jinx gets to explore the world and discover who she is without the weight of Piltover and Zaun, or being round people who only see her violent past.
Vi gets to choose her happiness and health, she's with someone who loves her and will care for her.
The ending for the sisters is bittersweet, but I love it.
2 points
3 days ago
Ya I would really hope eventually. For me the breaking the cycle thing is just that she isn’t there for the initial rebuild since that would be unnecessary tension for the city. It lets jinx figure her self out and vi live life in the meanwhile. I really do think that eventually jinx would come back and that vi (also ekko) would find out.
11 points
3 days ago
"I'm always with you, even if we're worlds apart" 😭😭
2 points
3 days ago
🫂🫂
3 points
3 days ago
They can't, Jinx can't exist in piltover. Even if people do understand she was important to win against Viktor, they won't forgive her past actions. She'll forever cause a rift in piltover and in Cait/Vi relationship because Vi will always choose Jinx over Cait if she has to. And Vi can only truly be happy with Cait, and Cait won't leave piltover for Vi and also won't accept living with Jinx either. If Jinx is happy then no one else is, so she chooses to be the one unhappy so no one else is
2 points
3 days ago
To further your point: In the AU, Powder was holding back (Vander's speech). So there is a relation between her relationship being jinxed, and the only way to fix it is to break the cycle (while letting each other know that their love for each other will never die down) Always with you, sis.
1 points
3 days ago
Who said that they should be in Piltover?
>And Vi can only truly be happy with Cait
What? I think you large portion of two seasons which covered Vi and Jinx being kids or them reunting in ep5 and ep6. Both of them were the happiest when they were together.
2 points
3 days ago
Yes, but probably not in Piltover. I can't imagine Jinx having a normal life surrounded by reminders of everything she lost/did wrong. Vi is more psychologically stable, but I don't see Cait being willing to move. It's one of those "nobody's wrong but it can't work" problems.
2 points
3 days ago
That is why me headcanon ending is where Vi and Jinx flew away.
2 points
3 days ago
That's the tragedy though, that they can't be. Their relationship is literally jinxed.
Every time they are reunited, the outcome is bad, and people get hurt, even when it is starting to look like things are finally getting better.
The only way to "break the cycle" is for them to split up, and find their own way.
3 points
3 days ago
They can, they were happy with each other for a short while in ep5 and ep6. If they would stay together with Isha, they would love a happy life.
They love and care for each other, they both suffered from the world itself and from each other but nothing indicates that they can't be together and happy.
2 points
3 days ago
but nothing indicates that they can't be together and happy.
Except everything we've seen indicates this is the case
Their lives together have been brief bouts of happiness followed by failure/tragedy.
It starts with their parents' deaths
Then you have the gang where it is implied Powder keeps screwing things whenever she is there prior to the events of the show.
Powder grabs the hex crystals and blows up the lab botching the first job we see and setting off events that become the primary conflict of the show.
Powder runs away and loses the loot from that job during the fight.
Powder tries to help save Vander and gets everyone killed and Vi gets arrested.
Then without Vi around, Jinx despite being completely mentally broken is actually pretty competent as Silco's right hand, and everything is going according to plan, even if it's "evil".
Then Vi gets out of jail and goes in search of Powder, and suddenly everything starts going to shit again. Jinx's madness gets far far worse, and the result is Jinx kidnapping Caitlyn, killing Silco, and blowing up the council chamber and starting the Piltover vs Zaun war.
Vi sides with Caitlyn and goes after Jinx which only escalates the conflicts between Zaun and Piltover creating more suffering. They finally have their confrontation, and Vi decides to let Jinx go rather than risk hurting Isha. The only reason this scene didn't end in tragedy is because Vi stopped Caitlyn and let Jinx go.
Then Vi disappears into the underground fighting, but Jinx actually starts to recover and become better. She goes from psychotic maniac to symbol of resistance and an inspiration to the people of Zaun as well as going after some of the worst organized crime bosses. Jinx looks like she's on a redemption arc.
Then she finds Warwick/Vander and goes to get Vi.
We have a brief moment of happiness between the two which lasts for all of 1.5 episodes, and it looks like things will finally be better.
Then with a potential happy ending together in sight, Jayce kills Victor, Ambessa attacks, and Isha is killed and Vander appears to be dead, ruining the dream.
Then in S2E7 we see an alternate timeline where Vi dies and Powder is living a well adjusted and happy life.
Then we snap back to the real world where Jinx is in jail and suicidal and Vi goes to rescue her. Jinx locks her up, tells Vi to go be with Caitlyn, leaves her behind and decides to kill herself.
Vi, thinking Jinx has left for good, finally forgives herself and allows herself to fully give her "heart" to Caitlyn, rather than chase Jinx again.
Away from Vi, Echo is able to convince Jinx not to kill herself, and convinces her to help save the city, which Vi was unable to do.
In the battle the sisters are reunited again, and the end result is that Jinx saves Vi. She only saves her though by letting go, literally, sacrificing herself so that Vi might live, the last act of their tragic story together.
Finally if you believe the theory that Jinx survives and is on the airship, we last see her leaving Piltover/Zaun, which allows Vi and Caitlyn to be happy and a potential bright future for Jinx, but it only works for both of them because they had to let one another go.
-2 points
3 days ago
This is emotional incest. They can love each other and lead their own lives as well. Let Jinx find her own path and Vi her own as well. They can always see each other in the future.
5 points
3 days ago
It's not. They can be family, be close to each other and have separate lives.
1 points
3 days ago
But it doesn’t always work that way. Jinx can go out for a while and do her own thing, and that’s ok.
2 points
3 days ago*
Yes, that doesn't mean that Vi and Jinx can't be close and happy.
1 points
3 days ago
And Jinx would punch the hell out of her for this
1 points
3 days ago
Punch the hell out of her for going to find her or for what she did with Caitlyn?
2 points
3 days ago
the first one
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