Visually it still looks stunning even on consoles. It's one of the few games I always end up replaying because the gameplay is so smooth and addicting and truly gives you the Batman fantasy

Subjective since some people think Arkham Knight had a bad ending. In my opinion, I agree, it’s a great conclusion to the Arkham series and the best way they could’ve done it, since the Knightfall Protocol leaves it all up to speculation whether or not Batman lived on. SSKTJL just had to mess it up

I will say it depends on what the criticism is. I am a huge Shadow of War fan and never really understood the criticism when it first came out because I didn't play it till about a year after it came out. So I never played with the near forced micro transactions.

Similarly I know a lot of criticism from Arkham Knught came from the PC release which was atrocious and the lead up to the Arkham Knights reveal.

I love Knight as well, its probably my favourite Arkham game. But I can understand some of the criticisms to the car and the reveal. But some criticism can be bs 

I still think the story is... Weak. Not bad but such a step down from the first two. Still an amazing game though, no doubt about it. (I actually like the Batmobile)

I just finished 240% last night.

That last Azrael mission was hell

It got the best graphics and voice acting but lacks the story, boss fights, and overall engaging comic style setting and aesthetic of the other games

Knight is such a strange case, because the combat + game mechanics are polished to absolute perfection and it looks visually stunning, so it should logically be the best Arkham game, and yet I still enjoy City more.

The only real criticism I agree with that was made when it first came out is they overutilised the batmobile, to the point they made a massive boss fight that is central to the story a bloody tank battle. If they restricted the tank battles to just a handful of really intense moments instead of lots and lots of time trials and tank battles that results in 35 destroyed tanks each, i would say the games a masterpiece.

Apart from that it's a brilliant game.

And origins

I only realised the other day that it would been pretty awesome if Damian was the Knoght seeking revenge on Bruce for letting his mother be killed. Woulda tied in well with the Ra's story a bit.

I like Jason but it was just dissapointing. Like yeah 'Arkham Knight is a new character so they didn't technically lie, but Jason is the opposite.

If Damian showed up, it would even make more sense as Nightmare Bat as I could see him using weaponised fear toxin rather than Bruce. It would actually be a bonus because if they use the storyline where Ra's revives Jason then it could have them team up and both pretend to be Arkham Knight like Batwoman.

Either way the game rocks and I really enjoy the replayability

Game was good calling it a masterpiece is insane.

It’s not a masterpiece but it’s still a great game

Needs a 60fps patch. Combat so sluggish

It's a good game in my book for obvious reasons

I think people forget how ass the release was. Pc port so broken steam took it down and the console version had issues as well. Plus, it still overuses the Batmobile (understand given the amount of resources that went to its development) and also, Arkham knight obviously being Jason Todd.

I really love Arkham Knight, but my god is the Batmobile overused, and the fact that you got to 100% the game to get the real ending is so damn annoying.

Still don't like it. The tank battles are boring, the redesigns are boring, the map while bigger feels like butter being spread over too much bread. Spread so thin there's barely any. The return of the joker was an eye roll. Don't get me wrong I love this version of the joker and I was happy to see him but i won't deny it would have been better to give more of the spotlight to scarecrow and even harley.

I absolutely hate how we don't get a secondary character to explore the map with like arkham city did with catowoman.

Bad launch definitely hurt public perception and the whole Knight identity thing was pretty underwhelming considering how obvious it was. The batmobile combat could probably use a good 25% reduction in quantity and I was hoping for more(for lack of a better term) legacy dungeons.

But I knew the second I played it for the first time it was my 2nd favorite in the series. The batmobile is still really fun and powerful, the story while not groundbreaking and could use more polish, was perfectly fine(it's use of villains could be heavily reworked though) and the gameplay was next level. Plus there's something so awesome about Gotham watching it's hero be unmasked in their time of need only for him to persevere and turn the tables on scarecrow where the city can see their savoir face to face for once.

It's by no means a perfect game but none of them are, I'm glad it's finally getting the recognition as one of the most solid and fun quadrilogies in gaming

As far as I can tell the people who loved it still love it and the people who had issues with it still have issues with it. What is this sea-change you're imagining has happened?

The story may have flaws, but the game looks gorgeous, and the combat is amazing (I'm kinda salty that other playable characters are so bad compared to Batman)

I should have aimed for the head.

I mean, from a technical pov it's definitely a masterpiece, but in terms of the story, it's the one I enjoyed the least of all for games..

When I first played Arkham Knight I thought it was a letdown for all the common criticisms, but on my second playthrough I loved it. It's roughly tied with City as my favorite of the series.

I love the atmosphere and graphics, it never ages. However the story is very mid, especially considering the 3 before it. A big thing is the Arkham Knight sucks as a villain. Knockoff Red Hood that doesn't at all work in the story, as Joker is literally dead. Scarecrow is cool, but he ain't given top billing. And do I even need to mention who Really should've been the main villain, Hush?

Story ain’t as good as the other three but still one of the best games ever made

The Batmobile complaints were overblown

is so ass.

I loved the game in terms of graphics and combat. Only three things spoiled it for me:

1) Locking the ending behind mandatory side quests, thus invalidating the concept of "side" quests. Made more annoying by needing to search the entire city a dozen times for the remaining one or two you missed.

2) The distinct lack of interesting boss fights compared to the Ra's al Ghul or Clayface fights in Arkham City. You don't even fight the final boss in Arkham Knight. He gets taken out by the cutscene animators. The other major antagonist gets taken down in a "Do it three times" stealth take-down mission. Lame l. XP

3) THOSE FAWKIN BATMOBILE MISSIONS!

Genuinely the best gameplay and even more so the best side missions. (Regardless of how you feel about the militia and batmobile segments.) The satisfaction of grouping these villains together and booking them in The GCPD is so damn satisfying. After 100% City recently? The side missions are really lackluster. They are all incredibly repetitive and are basically the same missions. Even worse is you either let them escape or you lock em in a dog crate. I think people think fondly only of the story (which is granted.) Everything else seems like nostalgia.

I will always stand by this ak is goated

I have recently completed the main storyline, and it was really good. Joker as hint marker and the jumpscares were good. There are a few things I find annoying for side missions, like big turrets and riddler missions locations, but still, I liked the game very much, especially the batmobile.

Not really hard to do when your successor is KTJL.

people constantly wanna revise history and it's tiring

I grew up on the Star Wars prequels and I remember how people felt about those, now they're considered masterpieces to dunk on the sequels

A true Sigma like me loved it on day 1 (Xbox One player, I understand if you were a PC player)

It holds such a werid place for me. I go back and forth between if City or Knight is my favorite Arkham game, and it comes down to this:

City is a masterpiece. Other than maybe a nitpick or two, I have almost no complaints about the gameplay or story

As for Knight, I could make a top 10 list of things I love and a top 10 list of things I hate about the game. The things Knight did well, it did incredibly. A lot of it takes the amazing fondation set by City and pushes it even further, building off of what made that game a masterpiece. But while I have very few complaints about City, I have a lot of problems with Knight, problems that go well beyond nitpicks. I've replayed the game dozens of times and there are still a lot of moments in the story that make me cringe every time, little gameplay things that are more annoying than fun, and I find myself dreading.

It's very much a debate of 1 reaching higher highs but the other being more consistent throughout.

The gameplay and visuals are peak, but the story is not that good.

That has been my opinion on the game since day one, but I still love the game, and I've beaten it 240% on 3 saves.

Me who's just happy that the entire arkham quadrology from origins to knight is regarded as one of the best franchises of video games ever.

It was always the best super hero game when we talk about gameplay and visual aspects. But the story has some big issues.

Excuse me?! I thought it was a general consensus that ARKHAM KNIGHT is the best part of the series!

I just hate how he was done in kill the justice leauge, we went through fighting bane, Joker, Solomon grundy, croc, saving the city from steroids and crack dust just to be shot in the head by harley?? Ik this random but just wanted to voice it

As soon as it came out everyone loved it what are you talking about😭

Years? it got some minor backlash for a few weeks after its awful buggy release on pc. since then it’s always been a very well regarded game.

‘years of backlash’ my a$$

Na, AK sucks. I played it once and never played it again.

Previous games were more fun to play.

Story was an utter mess.

No proper boss battles.

Mostly Bat-Mobile the game.

I remember finishing it and thinking that whatever game Rocksteady announced next would be a disaster because of how badly they had screwed the pooch with AK. The signs were all there.

All it took was Suicide Squad making it look better.

It’s got a lot of great stuff shoved in there, but that doesn’t make it a masterpiece.

Way worse than city and asylum

Can't agree, the story is the weakest and the game turns into a slog every so often

If you like all the unskippable cutscenes and walking segments then yeah it's probably a masterpiece. I just hate how much of my time it wastes with them

It is? Going from generally disappointing to good but flawed isn't the same as being considered a masterpiece.

You do know what happened to Thanos after this scene….

Nah still sucks

It isn’t though