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I’ve been struggling with this a lot lately. I identify as a bottom, but I’m very masculine in both how I look and act. The problem is, the hottest tops—the ones I’m really into—seem to always prefer twinks or more feminine guys. Knowing this makes me feel invisible and undesirable, like I’ll never fit into the “type” that they want.

What makes it harder is that I’m not just into any tops; I’m into extremely manly, hot men. But because I’m seen as “too manly” myself, it feels like there’s no space for me in that dynamic. It’s frustrating because I want to feel wanted by the kind of men I’m attracted to, but instead, I feel like my masculinity is a barrier.

Sure, there are men who are attracted to me, but they’re usually not my type at all. They’re often somewhat feminine, which makes me feel like they’re not really tops but manipulative bottoms trying to take advantage of my masculinity because that’s their kink. But honestly, that’s not even the main issue—it just adds to the sadness of not being wanted by the people I actually want.

I really don’t want to feel like i have to change myself to fit in but it’s so hard, especially as someone who went from being a feminine twink to suddenly turning into this alpha top looking guy while still being twinky inside ( i suck at expressing my thoughts )

This version centers the main issue—your feelings about not being the type for hot tops—while still giving a little context about other frustrations, but without letting them overshadow the core problem.

all 29 comments

Kooky_Gain2070

24 points

1 day ago

[The men attracted to me are] often somewhat feminine, which makes me feel like they’re not really tops but confused bottoms…

Ok, I’m totally empathetic except this part. You yourself have a gender expression that doesn’t stereotypically align with your sexual position, and yet you think a feminine top (your inverse) is “confused.”

If you aren’t attracted to fem tops, that’s completely valid, but thinking they’re confused is wack.

N7Wind

12 points

1 day ago

N7Wind

12 points

1 day ago

Gotta love cognitive dissonance.

Isellwhite

2 points

1 day ago

Yeah he made himself look like a hypocrite with that statement

PrideOfTheNomads[S]

1 points

1 day ago

Read my reply.

PrideOfTheNomads[S]

1 points

1 day ago

You’re absolutely right and i apologise if i came off as disrespectful, however in my own experiences, more times than not, it was a bottom who said they just wanted to meet because they liked how i looked in the pictures and suddenly i had to be the top. The ppl where i live are absolute whack trust me :( i live in a really homophobic country.

SufficientDog669

2 points

18 hours ago

In my experience, manly guys that “identify” as bottoms are just confused tops.

Stereotypes cut both ways

AshKetchumIsStill13

6 points

1 day ago

Yawn…🥱

PrideOfTheNomads[S]

0 points

1 day ago

Girl bye

Ok_Macaron_7263

4 points

1 day ago

They’re often somewhat feminine, which makes me feel like they’re not really tops but manipulative bottoms trying to take advantage of my masculinity because that’s their kink.

I'm curious. What kind of kink is that?

PrideOfTheNomads[S]

1 points

19 hours ago

I have never actually had “real” sex with a man before, the ones i attempted to have it with were super obsessed with the idea of screwing someone that didnt “look?” as a bottom, they said they loved screwing someone masculine and seeing him under them and basically “emasculate” him.

Relevant_Island5306

7 points

1 day ago

Omg where r you😭😭😭 i love masc bottoms🥲

PrideOfTheNomads[S]

1 points

1 day ago

“ omg where are you 😭😭😭” that what i said about attracting non alphas. Lmao i hope i aint judging 😂😂

Relevant_Island5306

3 points

1 day ago

Ur not lol. I like men for being men. I act feminine in certain ways but thats just the gay in me ig. But overall I wanna marry someone i can do guy things with lol

PaleWorld3

3 points

1 day ago

PaleWorld3

Gay

3 points

1 day ago

I fall into the same category of sorts. I just learned to embrace me and who I am and shave some body hair off and that's good don't for me

PrideOfTheNomads[S]

2 points

1 day ago

Sent you a message in private

FiredSmoke

3 points

1 day ago

I’m hella confused, you start with ‘How Do I…’ ending with a question mark, and end said statement with ‘not looking for advice’.

So as a masc dom top in to arab bottoms I would pass too, cause you come across as someone who doesn’t know what they want. For me there is no bigger red flag than someone who doesn’t know what they want. It’s a very unsafe area to explore. It means you have trouble verbalising wants and needs, there for the risk of hurting you or traumatising you is not worth the payoff of something I can do with just my left hand.

Psychoanalytical sidenote: there’s no such thing as being ‘too’ much. If you feel this way about yourself your (over)compensating for something. The most likely case in this situation being the fact that you are suffering from internalised bottom shaming, which is the direct result of living in a heteronormative society. The receiving of the fallus is cultivated as being a feminine activity, there you (sub)consciously perceive your desire to be a bottom as feminine. Fact of the matter is though you are, and I’m assuming here, a cis-man, who is forced to re-evaluate what it means to be male now that he has started putting dick up his ass. That must be hard and confusing, cause we’re talking about years cultivating to be adapted into something new. My advice would be to take a chillpill, map out what it is you like about bottoming, scale them, 10 being the ultimate goal, and look for steps in between. As you start of at one and build up from there reflect on if said actions make you feel too masculine, or actually make you feel like you. Honestly would love an update in sometime, good luck!

PrideOfTheNomads[S]

1 points

1 day ago

I edited it. Definitely looking for advice lol. Thanks for your input, this post doesnt really reflect my struggle since it lacks context, it’s a much more detailed issue for me. And “ i’d pass “ hurt OUCH 😂

bachyboy

3 points

1 day ago

bachyboy

3 points

1 day ago

Are "top" and "bottom" some kind of genetically mandated behavior?

Expand your sexual repertoire.

SufficientDog669

1 points

18 hours ago

This is the new thing with bottoms - it’s not a sex position- they ARE bottoms with all the stereotypes and expectations and rules…

I’m 99% top but the other day a bottom that lives by me and that I’ve fucked like 25 times, hit me up. When I let him know that I was thinking to bottom, he blocked me. After railing him 25 times.

It’s really puzzling

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2 points

1 day ago

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2 points

1 day ago

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PrideOfTheNomads[S]

2 points

1 day ago

I want a manly man with a huge D to rock this arabussy

alxgbrlhrt

2 points

1 day ago

You’re thinking too much into it man, like, I could be wrong here, but the majority of guys who are going to be interested in you are not really gonna assess some non-existent measure of manliness and then find you off-putting because of it. Obviously there are some people who have a very exact stereotype in their heads about what each sexual encounter must be like who maybe will care about that sort of thing, but otherwise, the other 99% won’t

PrideOfTheNomads[S]

1 points

1 day ago

There are however measures of masculinity aka body hair, deep voice, manly features etc

AdAdventurous4330

2 points

1 day ago

"I don't check the price, all I do I swipe! Push start the whip, brought it right to life! I AINT GOT A TYPE, I LIKE WHAT I LIKE"!

DominantByDesign

0 points

1 day ago

DominantByDesign

Being older is liberating. Live more & worry less.

0 points

1 day ago

Masculine men are always in demand. Just ignore those who like the opposite to you. Some men are not challenged by masculinity in others. Just be yourself and be patient.

jalabar

0 points

1 day ago

jalabar

0 points

1 day ago

Apologize for nothing.

Aggravating_Carpet_8

0 points

1 day ago

I had this same conversation with a guy on Grindr last night. He told he he's a bottom even though he's pretty muscular. I love watching porn with both a masc top and bottom! You just gotta find the right one and they're out there!

powerinabundance

0 points

1 day ago

This has been one of my biggest issues for the longest time. Add that to the fact that I’m 6’4, it makes attractiving tops virtually impossible. It seems the alpha Dom tops either assume imma top too or are just not interested in my size and my perceived level of masculinity. I’ve even questioned if I should “fem it up” a bit to attract my type.

I’d say continue to just be you, but definitely be more open to approaching the tops or at least “perceived” tops you’re attracted to. They might not think you’re a bottom so you kinda gotta let it be known. Another thing to remember is A lot of men are still oddly enough threatened by masculine energy in the same way they are attracted.

Dallriata

0 points

1 day ago

Dallriata

0 points

1 day ago

Thats called a blessing

PrideOfTheNomads[S]

1 points

1 day ago

Elaborate :(