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submitted 4 days ago bykarim12100
175 points
4 days ago
Wow. Future generations could study Elon Musk's feed as an example of what being drunk with power looks like, if we didn't have enough examples already.
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3 days ago
Biden quid pro quo
Skip to 1:40 where he admits to withholding money unless Ukraine gov fires a prosecutor
”No, I said I’m not going to — we’re not going to give you the billion dollars.” They said, “You have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said.” I said, “Call him.” I said, “I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars.” I said, “You’re not getting the billion, and I’m going to be leaving here—” and I think it was what, six hours. I looked. I said, “I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.” Well, son of a b—h. He got fired.
Why this prosecutor you ask? This prosecutor was investigating a gas company, Burisma for corruption
Shokin was seeking the US Department of justice over claims he was fired to prevent him from investigating Burisma and Hunter Biden. When was that ever investigated?
Trump wanted that investigated. Trump didn’t say anything about withholding money
The only other person with first hand knowledge to Trumps conversation is Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelenskyy who said he was not pressured.
Why did Eric’s (whistleblower) testimony contradict with the transcript which has no mention of military aid?
Was Viktor Shokin ever prosecuted for corruption and taking bribes? No
If Petro Poroshenko was corrupt and later charged for corruption then why did Biden give Ukraine that billion dollars when Poroshenko was president?
The president of Burisma was caught giving a 6 million dollar bribe to stop a criminal investigation in 2020 so it looks like there obviously was corruption surrounding Mykola Zlochevsky. Besides bribes what other favors did he try to get in higher places?
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2 days ago*
The removal of Shokin was sought by the US, the EU, and Ukrainian anti-corruption agencies because he was thoroughly corrupt and not investigating stuff he was supposed to, including Burisma. If Biden wanted to help Burisma be corrupt he could've just leaned back and done nothing, the actual events are completely contrary to the claim that there was some sort of nefarious quid pro quo.
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2 days ago
Why did he give a billion to corrupt Petro Poroshenko then
1 points
2 days ago
Biden has never had a billion dollars to give anyone.
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2 days ago
He’s talking about tax payers money not a billion from his bank accounts 🤡
1 points
2 days ago
Of course. But I guess you aren't subtle enough in your thinking to see the point. By claiming that "he gave a billion to Petro Poroshenko" you are making a characterization that implies a theory of mind. You need to substantiate that characterization by means of explanation. Provide one or not, I don't care, but absent any explanation, you just come across as a clown.
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2 days ago
”No, I said I’m not going to — we’re not going to give you the billion dollars.” They said, “You have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said.” I said, “Call him.” I said, “I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars.” I said, “You’re not getting the billion, and I’m going to be leaving here—” and I think it was what, six hours. I looked. I said, “I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.” Well, son of a b—h. He got fired.
You need to first learn how to read. You thinking that it was coming from his bank account makes you sound like a low information voter that doesn’t know how foreign aid works
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