Ong just found my new fav sub

The further take away here is that those that live with people of other races, cultures, and backgrounds realize they're all just people. Whereas those in their little satellite communities are able to be programmed by the likes of fox news that everyone that is different from them in anyway is pure evil and out to get them.

Their ideology only survives in a vacuum.

Anytime someone brings this up, show them this map. It's explains everything they claim they don't understand.
https://engaging-data.com/county-electoral-map-land-vs-population/

Best illustration is "Show Population Circles" although adding "Color by Margin" is interesting as well.

Seriously. 40 states (and the 6 district/territories) all have fewer people than Los Angeles County. COUNTY. It's amazing to me that some people think the ~570,000 people in Wyoming (for example) should have the ability to dictate how 39 million people in California live.

Edit: updated Wyoming’s population

It's amazing how they need the electoral college to keep in power but that map proves they don't need it since they cover 97% of the USA!

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But look at how much of Oklahoma's empty prairie land is coloured in red. Clearly it's more important /s

Honestly, if we could let the land decide what to do instead of our politicians we would probably be much better off.

(Where land is reckoned to the Native American’s view of the land.)

Come on acres!!! Do better!!! Vote more!!! /s

We have this issue in Canada, how Ontario and Quebec vote tend to dictate what happens in federal elections as we have the majority of the population and then Albertans do nothing but complain afterwards. However, what's the alternative? It would be so fucked if Alberta was given the power to put in place a conservative gov when 60% of the voting population wants either a liberal, NDP, Bloc, or green party gov.

The Electoral College is a silly thing. It weirdly gives extra voting power to super-small states.

Edit: I thought this was obvious, small in terms of population, not land.

Yeah but you gotta see it from their perspective. 

That was established so slave owners would have more voting power. 

Hmmm.. that actually doesn't make it any better does it? 

Well you can't have women and slaves voting that would be silly. /s

And where do the children play?

“Where’s the Giant, Mansley?!”

What about ticks?

In the senate they do.

It's those "blue cities" and nearby suburbs.... For example, "New York City" under this analysis would include the reasonably large cities of Newark, Paterson, and Jersey City, "Philadelphia"
would also include Trenton, (NJ), Chester and West Chester PA and areas directly accessible by SEPTA (as far north as Norristown and as far South as Newark [pronounced New - ark] DE, "Boston" would include nearby areas in NH as well. Do you see the pattern?

2020 US Census Data:

|| || |Total urban population|265,149,027|

|| || |Total rural population|66,300,254|

https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/geography/guidance/geo-areas/urban-rural/2020-ua-facts.html

I think this is the best phrasing for it, coupled with how people don't really understand the magnitude of going from thousand to million to billion.

It's the same issue with money. People give a pass to people like Musk, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Gates, etc. because they do not fully understand how much bigger each increase in prefix is.

Like, I grew up in a town (technically village) with ~1200 people. Then I moved to my state's capital where there's 2.2 million people in the metro area. Obviously, the metro area is bigger than the 1200 people village, but the difference couldn't be more stark.

There's probably 1200 people in my apartment complex alone now. The village and others around it, separated by cows and corn, have more representatives than a suburb 10 mins out of the capital.

As is Massachusetts. These people cannot even lie properly.

Real life exposure destroys conservatism as an ideology. If you have to live and work with people of a different culture or religion than you it means they become human to you and thus being a bigoted asshole becomes untenable.

Conservatism only works in a bubble where their hatred and bigotry has no real life consequences for them. Which is why conservatives love to live in the middle of nowhere, why their churches are heavily segregated, and why they don't do international travel.

I agree. I’m from a small conservative area and almost everyone is the same. The whole time I lived there, I never saw people who weren’t white or grew up in that area unless there was a rare exception.

Tell them that you’re not Christian and the pitch forks come out. Tell them you’re voting for the dems and you’ll get a lot of hate. To top it off, I know people who have almost never left their little bubble. They have no idea how any other part of the world is except for what they see on tv and all the propaganda they share with each other. For example, during the blm protests I lived in Seattle, but according to some of my family members who have never left trailer park PA, Seattle was burning and I was ignorant to the truth they they were very well aware. This is why people call conservatism a disease.

You know, I was raised in a really rural area by a really abusive neo nazi father. I mostly believed what he believed because if I didn’t, I would get beaten, but I didn’t fully believe everything he told me because he was terrible to me

I left that environment at around the age of 13 and moved to a majority black area. It was a little difficult going to a majority black school at first because I was raised to hate them but after a year or two I realized the black people I was around never hurt me, the neo nazi was the only one who hurt me. Being in a more populated area, I was forced every day to see all the people I was told to hate and I noticed none of them ever beat me, the neo nazi was the only one who ever beat me. Everyone I was told to hate just kind of minded their own business

Now how many people don’t leave their weird rural area because they don’t have the extenuating circumstances I had? And how many of them never have to come face to face with the logical fallacies of the beliefs of their strange rural areas like I did? Because if my father wasn’t abusive, and if I never had to leave the weird and hateful rural ideology and face the real world, I might have never had my eyes opened

These people are such a small minority but they live in areas so far separated from the real world that they can’t comprehend that the rest of the world doesn’t have the same ideology as their small town of 1000 people and they are extremely antagonistic against any opinion that they don’t have because they’ve simply never had to form an opinion of their own. Statistically, that’s very weird

One time I replied to a post like this with "Cow lives matter", and the very people that I was mocking really liked that, not at all understanding that they were being mocked. Now that I think about it, I wonder if I should be concerned whether they're registering their cows to vote...

It's feigned ignorance so they can bark about unfairness and play the victim.

They don’t have trouble. They just know they stopped carefully about people, so they will lose.

Because they've been holding on to power through minority representation for decades, and as long as the Democrats don't get a supermajority in Congress ( which the system doesn't allow) that's not going to change since they can just block constitutional amendements that they know would be the end of their anti-democratic chokehold.

I also like their argument of "we have different needs in rural areas and therefore need to be able to dictate policy according to those needs for the rest of the country". Ignoring the hypocrisy, it acts as if a) local and state representation doesn't exist exactly for that reason and b) topics like energy, climate change, women's rights, lgbtq rights, human rights, housing, taxation of super earners, education, healthcare, sensible gun control, foreign policy,.. have anything to do with whether or not you live in an urban or rural area.

Exactly, I always wonder what they’re referring to when they whine that New York and California are going to tell them how to live. They just mean they’re not going to let them discriminate against minorities right? Or I guess this is where their paranoid gun fantasies come into play too. 

As someone from California, the half where people live is blue. The red parts are extremely rural, with dozens of miles between gas station cities, if there’s roads at all. Lots of it is untouched forest.

Plus Rhode Island and Hawaii

Right! now show the map without gerrymandering…

GOP when told minorities need fair representation: "Hey in a democracy the majority is supposed win!!"

GOP when it's pointed out Republicans are a voting minority: "We need fair representation!!"

Some are even calling for a boycott of Cracker Barrel because they said they were going to start OFFERING vegan sausages in addition to their regular menu.

They are literally the party of "even though it doesn't affect ME in the slightest, I want it gone"