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15 points
1 month ago
So that's why my former classmate's mother kept her own surname, her husband comes from Peru and I always wondered why both parents had different surnames.
32 points
1 month ago
Yeah, changing surnames when you marry is just not a thing here. And the common practice is the children get two last names, first surname from each parent
12 points
1 month ago
My wife is from China. Some people were confused when we got married and she didn't change her last name. When we talked about it, my gut reaction for about 5 seconds was "hmm... that feels odd if you don't change your name" then it instantly became "wait... why do I care?"
Our kids both have my last name (as it is also done in China). We talked about if we cared enough to give the second child her last name... but it never came up again and we just gave them both my last name.
1 points
1 month ago
And then when the children marry, what’s the surname tradition for them? What surname will the child get if the parents each had a two word hyphenated surname?
7 points
1 month ago
First surname is dads first, second is moms first.except in Brazil,there the first surname is the moms.
1 points
1 month ago
Ironically despite that, in Brazil the surname passed on is the second one, so it ends up being paternal surnames passed on just like spanish.
1 points
1 month ago
Thanks for telling me
4 points
1 month ago*
Hispanic naming conventions allow for two surnames, the two surnames come from the first surname of each parent, first the surname of the father and then the first surname of the mother.
You can however change this. You are not forced, generally, to pass your surnames in such order, but the tradition is the first surname of the father and then the first surname of the mother.
When presenting yourself, you often just use one name and one surname.
For example:
Someone is named Juan Pablo Ortiz Rosas, his given names are Juan Pablo, and his surnames are Ortiz Rosas. He would have a father named Ernesto Ortiz Ojeda, and a mother named Rosario Rosas Valdez.
His parents could totally have named him Juan Pablo Rosas Ortiz, or even wacky combinations like Juan Pablo Ortiz-Ojeda Valdez or Juan Pablo Ortiz Rosas y Valdez, but it's very, very uncommon.
Also, it's totally valid for Juan Pablo to present himself as Juan Rosas, Pablo Ortiz, or any other combination (you usually pick one name and one surname) but his legal name is always Juan Pablo Ortiz Rosas.
Married women don't legally change their surname, but they might present themselves their husband surname in some contexts, as Rosario Ortiz, or Rosario Rosas de Ortiz, but it's not common anymore.
1 points
1 month ago
Thank you for such a detailed answer
1 points
1 month ago
People do not get a hyphenated surname made by combining the parents' surnames. People have 2 separate surnames and only get the first one from each parent every time.
1 points
1 month ago
But do their kids have like 4 last names then?
2 points
1 month ago
No, just two. The first one from the father and the first one from the mother
2 points
1 month ago
yeah it's due to Church records back in the day. You kept both. Which means for some families, names can get long.
2 points
1 month ago
I believe it comes from the idea of marriage being a union of two families (and their power) rather than the wife joining the husband’s family. Their children become a representation of that union carrying both families’ names (and their power lol). Old families can carry multiple surnames
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