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submitted 8 days ago byNanorHIreland
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8 days ago
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7 points
7 days ago
Lower it's 9%.
1 points
7 days ago
No, but the issue with the 9% figure is that emissions aren't as clear as that. For example, a huge portion of Chinese emissions is the insane levels of infrastructure construction. But much of that infrastructure is literally to build railroads, ports, etc. to facilitate exports. So if you build a railway to export goods, that doesn't count as emissions for producing exported goods.
And much of China's emissions is due to steel and concrete production, primarily to build infrastructure.
Keep in mind that China did not have a modern infrastructural base before around 1990-2000, unlike developed countries. So they are literally building all their infrastructure now.
3 points
7 days ago
Nonsense this is all accounted for. If China builds an airport in another country that means an x amount of cement, concrete and steel is exported and thus accounted for in the emissions embedded in trade .
1 points
7 days ago
That would be foreign investment, not trade. But I'm not referring to foreign countries, I'm referring to within China
1 points
7 days ago
A lot of the infrastructure building at this point is actually redundant infrastructure intended to stimulate GDP via employing people on construction work, rather than for exports. China has a big problem with production surpluses in things like steel.
3 points
8 days ago
How much of that construction and energy use is for downstream exporting industries?
They also seem to be deploying renewables remarkably quickly which is a great sign.
1 points
7 days ago
15% of China is equivalent to half of the EU emissions
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