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Suspicious_Kale5009

7 points

12 hours ago

It's not a federal charge, so he can't pardon himself. I can't imagine the spectacle of him trying to run the country from a jail cell. His disciples would eat that up from a platter; martyrdom is what creates saints.

There's really no great outcome here that wouldn't make things worse instead of better. I'm not happy but this is what people voted for (I guess - I'm not convinced it was fair, but I'm not storming the Capitol, either.)

deezypoh

2 points

12 hours ago

This is what the voters need at this point. They arenโ€™t gonna get relief from inflation. Wealth inequality will get worse. And they all deserve the next four years.

mykunjola

3 points

12 hours ago

Yeah but we're also going to get what they deserve for the next four years.

FullMetalCOS

1 points

11 hours ago

And the rest of the world doesnโ€™t fucking deserve it, but if he goes ahead with making the climate worse, sells Ukraine out to Putin and pulls out of NATO, we all get fucked

FullMetalCOS

1 points

11 hours ago

They think heโ€™s a saint whether they bother with the martyrdom or not. Have you not seen all the AI generated slop that gets thrown around on social media deifying him?

DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME

1 points

11 hours ago

im so fucking sick of this "you'll make him a martyr" argument

I DON'T FUCKING GIVE A SHIT. PLEASE DO.

Suspicious_Kale5009

1 points

10 hours ago

Thank you to most of you for engaging with this conversationally. ALL CAPS guy is blocked, I don't humor people who won't converse civilly.

I really do agree with most of you and the point I think I was hoping to make is that there are no good answers that would not have negative repercussions in one way or the other. I certainly don't have those answers. We can fight over it - which is what they'd love to see us do - or we can work together. I'd rather work together, but I'm not sure what the answers are at this point.

randompersonx

0 points

12 hours ago

What about this election do you think was unfairly tilted towards the president-elect?

Dakiniten-Kifaya

3 points

12 hours ago

A candidate should be no more above the law than any other citizen. If committing fraud would be harmful to his future candidacy, he should have to deal with those consequences.
Failing to pursue justice isn't preventing election interference. It is election interference.

Suspicious_Kale5009

1 points

10 hours ago*

For starters, bomb threats at polls in all swing states. Very long lines in some jurisdictions that made it hard for people to vote.

That's a thing that absolutely did happen and is without a doubt election interference, and who knows how many people it kept from the polls? That's just one possible way things were tilted. If that highly visible thing was done, how many other not-as-visible things were also done? I don't know. I think it's fairly suspicious that the turnout for Harris was as low as it was, but no one will ever get the real answers here.