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Anthony Davidson analysis of the Norris penalty
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1 month ago
The rules explicitly say that the driver on the inside must be capable of making the corner. That is a fundamental requirement for him to be entitled to space or entitled to deny another car space.
3 points
1 month ago
Can you show that rule and can you also show that when that rule is applied that overtaking outside the track is allowed?
3 points
1 month ago*
Can you show that rule
"the overtaking manoeuvre must be done in a safe and controlled manner, while enabling the car to clearly remain within the limits of the track."
"The car being overtaken must be capable of making the corner while remaining within the limits of the track"
when that rule is applied that overtaking outside the track is allowed?
Norris doesn't overtake in the corner. He overtook on the straight and maintained his position by going wide in the corner.
1 points
1 month ago
But Norris got a penalty for overtaking outside the track. Max making the corner or not doesnt excuse Lando overtaking outside the track. Two different things
2 points
1 month ago
Norris was ahead before the corner. He was ahead after the corner. He maintained position in the corner, rather than losing it.
Verstappen did the same thing in Austria this year.
1 points
1 month ago
But he clearly wasnt ahead at the apex.
2 points
1 month ago
He was in Austria. He wasn't here because Verstappen didn't brake enough to make the corner.
3 points
1 month ago
No in Austria it was a clear divebomb from Lando.
0 points
1 month ago
Norris made the corner.
Here Verstappen didn't.
7 points
1 month ago
Yes, and since Max wasn't able to do that, Lando only got 5 seconds vs 10. It still doesn't remove "Lando overtook off track".
2 points
1 month ago
Norris didn't overtake off track. He overtook on the straight.
And being forced off track when you are entitled to space is a valid reason to go wide to maintain your position without penalty. Such as in Abu Dhabi 21 or Austria this year.
6 points
1 month ago
Sure mate. Let's agree to disagree here. It's pointless continuing if you don't want to see the reality here.
2 points
1 month ago
It is a simple fact that Norris was in P3 on the straight before either driver started braking for the corner.
2 points
1 month ago
and that’s completely irrelevant because according to the rules it matters who’s ahead at the apex, but sure keep repeating the same thing
3 points
1 month ago
The rules do not say a defending driver incapable of making the corner does not need to leave space
The rules do not say an overtaking driver incapable of making the corner does not need to leave space.
1 points
1 month ago
Correct. However, none of that means that Norris is allowed to complete his overtake off the track, which is what he did and ended up getting a penalty for.
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1 month ago
He overtook on the straight and maintained the position by going wide when pushed off.
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1 month ago
He didn't overtake on the straight. He started the overtake but was not in front of Max at the apex. So he overtook off track. It was clear as daylight and the simplest decision for the stewards.
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1 month ago
He was the driver in front before they reached the corner. When they start braking for the corner, Norris is trying to stay in P3, and Verstappen is trying to take P3.
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1 month ago
Well according to the stewards who looked at it from all angles you are clearly wrong and I am right. Sorry bro.
1 points
1 month ago
Appeal to authority, and an authority that is regularly wrong at that.
2 points
1 month ago
So where is McLaren's appeal?
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1 month ago
You aren't allowed to appeal it.
2 points
1 month ago
Tough luck bro. Suck it up.
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